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    Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Is it just the newspapers trying to stir something up or is Freddy Garcia overreacting to Andy Pettitte's signing?

    From what I read, Garcia is certainly not happy - yet, Cashman's job is to do whatever it takes to make the team better and, assuming he can return to 2010 form, Andy Pettitte clearly improves this team and its starting rotation.

    Freddy Garcia was an important part of the team last year and earned every penny he was paid. He also gave himself the ability to get a 2011 guaranteed contract with his 2010 performance.

    But, such a performance should not guarantee him, or anyone for that matter, a place in the rotation.

    If you want the job, Freddy, go out and prove the Yankees wrong by pitching so well that they can't take the job away from you.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    Is it just the newspapers trying to stir something up or is Freddy Garcia overreacting to Andy Pettitte's signing?

    From what I read, Garcia is certainly not happy - yet, Cashman's job is to do whatever it takes to make the team better and, assuming he can return to 2010 form, Andy Pettitte clearly improves this team and its starting rotation.

    Freddy Garcia was an important part of the team last year and earned every penny he was paid. He also gave himself the ability to get a 2011 guaranteed contract with his 2010 performance.

    But, such a performance should not guarantee him, or anyone for that matter, a place in the rotation.

    If you want the job, Freddy, go out and prove the Yankees wrong by pitching so well that they can't take the job away from you.
    I'd be ticked off if I was Garcia too. He knows he's gonna be the long man this year barring injuries to others. The competitor in him wants to start esp considering the season he had last year. I'd be upset if I were him too.

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    This wouldn't be a problem if only they'd signed Johnny Damon.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    I feel so bad for Garcia. The dude is going to get paid $4M to potentially be a cheerleader.

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    I feel so bad for Garcia. The dude is going to get paid $4M to potentially be a cheerleader.
    He's not Pavano. I understand his unhappiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    I'd be ticked off if I was Garcia too. He knows he's gonna be the long man this year barring injuries to others. The competitor in him wants to start esp considering the season he had last year. I'd be upset if I were him too.
    I wonder how the competitor in him will feel when he's traded to the Pirates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I wonder how the competitor in him will feel when he's traded to the Pirates.
    "Oh crap, I gotta be teammates with that AJ guy again?"

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    He's not Pavano. I understand his unhappiness.
    Well according to Sherman, he wasn't getting a real shot at the rotation with or without Pettitte.

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    This wouldn't be a problem if only they'd signed Johnny Damon.
    nice one, doc
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Can't blame the guy. In direct competition, he's never going to garner enough support to unseat Andy unless Andy flat out can't hack it.
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    Well, there is also the fact that Andy will most likely be shown favoritism even if he doesn't earn it. I would be pissed if I was Freddy.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    I feel so bad for Garcia. The dude is going to get paid $4M to potentially be a cheerleader.
    It's hard to feel sorry for someone making $4M to play a game.


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    Garcia's reaction has been reported for several days - basically, as I read it, his reaction is "whatever".

    I can understand his desire to compete, but if offered a better solution at a cheaper price, what team wouldn't jump at the chance.

    To me, Garcia (as well as Nova, Hughes, and Pineda) need to show the Yankees that there is a reason NOT to replace them in the rotation with Pettitte. If they do that, then the Yankees decision regarding Andy becomes much more difficult, as well as beneficial for the team.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    It's hard to feel sorry for someone making $4M to play a game.




    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yanke...sKQiJxUA09oW0K

    Garcia's reaction has been reported for several days - basically, as I read it, his reaction is "whatever".

    I can understand his desire to compete, but if offered a better solution at a cheaper price, what team wouldn't jump at the chance.

    To me, Garcia (as well as Nova, Hughes, and Pineda) need to show the Yankees that there is a reason NOT to replace them in the rotation with Pettitte. If they do that, then the Yankees decision regarding Andy becomes much more difficult, as well as beneficial for the team.
    It doesnt matter what Garcia does. He knows he is losing a spot no matter what. Hughes is getting it over him. If Hughes really started to suck and Garcia did take his spot, as long as Andy is passable he is getting his spot. Pettitte will get treated with favoritism no matter what.

    If I was him, I'd be upset about all this as well.

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    It doesnt matter what Garcia does. He knows he is losing a spot no matter what. Hughes is getting it over him. If Hughes really started to suck and Garcia did take his spot, as long as Andy is passable he is getting his spot. Pettitte will get treated with favoritism no matter what.

    If I was him, I'd be upset about all this as well.
    Sorry, but until that actually happens, he has no room to be upset at all.

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    But if Andy makes the team, wouldn't it be Phil to be odd man out?

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    But if Andy makes the team, wouldn't it be Phil to be odd man out?

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

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    I'd be pissed too. He was our 2nd best pitcher last year and he's being frozen out.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees13 View Post
    I'd be pissed too. He was our 2nd best pitcher last year and he's being frozen out.
    If he's our 2nd best pitcher this year then he'll be fine, no? Fortunately his money is guaranteed, but his rotation spot is not. He can still pitch well enough to retain it, although I'm not anticipating it.

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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

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    If he's our 2nd best pitcher this year then he'll be fine, no?
    He only has to be 5th best.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Quote Originally Posted by DiMaggio5CF View Post
    He only has to be 5th best.
    I don't think it's that simple. Last year Colon was certainly better than 5th best in ST, and only got into the rotation because of Hughes' situation. Despite his performance last year, Garcia may be facing the uphill battle this year.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    Ugh... I wish we could worry about the things that matter instead of Garcia's feelings on Pettitte. I honestly don't care. If he wants the job and if he deserves the job, he'll go out there and win the job. If he doesn't and someone takes it from him, his feelings really aren't the issue. If anything this should give him more incentive to focus.

    Of course, I also suspect this has been spun and portrayed as if Garcia is actually upset about this to get readers. He may be annoyed he has more competition for a spot but if he performs there should be no issue. Hughes, Pineda and Nova have the same problem.
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    Re: Garcia's Reaction to the Pettitte un-retirement and signing

    I'm more upset because our 2nd or 3rd best pitcher is going to be in bullpen while we try to put lipstick on a pig (It's been 5 years. Aren't we done with the Hughes experiment yet?) and put up a 40 year old out of sentimental affection.

    What's the big deal with Hughes anyway? Isn't he a FA after this year, like Garcia?
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    Life with the New York Yankees. If he wanted guarantees I'm sure the KC Royals would have found a spot for him at a price of their choosing.

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