2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

[YankeePride1967]

If he was ill then that I'm confident has more to do with it.

[ajra21]

Despite the stuff, I don't see this guy ever being an ace. He's a very solid, above average pitcher. He's gonna have games like this but he got through six and didn't give in.

[effdamets]

Despite the stuff, I don't see this guy ever being an ace. He's a very solid, above average pitcher. He's gonna have games like this but he got through six and didn't give in.

Agreed - although this kid is the best starter to come out of the (Yankee) minors since Pettitte.

[ajra21]

Agreed - although this kid is the best starter to come out of the (Yankee) minors since Pettitte.

Agreed Eff. The fact that Joba isn't that guy is so maddening. Someone compared Nova to Amdy the other day and the explanation was quite sensible.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

Agreed Eff. The fact that Joba isn't that guy is so maddening. Someone compared Nova to Amdy the other day and the explanation was quite sensible.

I've wondered about that comparison myself -- I can see Nova as the above average, steady presence in the rotation for years to come. Obviously, it's no sure thing, but it's not out of the realm of possibility

[effdamets]

Agreed Eff. The fact that Joba isn't that guy is so maddening. Someone compared Nova to Amdy the other day and the explanation was quite sensible.

Sometimes - expectations are way high (see Hughes) or a guy comes up and starts dominating and then can't sustain it (see Joba)... It's a bit frustrating....

I like Nova. (I stole him in the 9th round of our draft last year - pick of the draft!) I'm hoping this guy just continues to pitch like this for a long time. Every pitcher brought up from the minors doesn't have to be an ace.....

[NYCrusader]

Agreed - although this kid is the best starter to come out of the (Yankee) minors since Pettitte.

I would say Chien Ming Wang still holds that honor based on what he accomplished as a Yankee before he got hurt.

Though Nova could easily pass him because Wang's success was short lived because of said injury.

[effdamets]

I would say Chien Ming Wang still holds that honor based on what he accomplished as a Yankee before he got hurt.

I'm not in front of the stats but I think Nova has been better than Wang was.

EDIT: OK - maybe not. I just checked.

[JohnnyDamonfan]

Yeah, I truly don't think he is gonna be an ace. But, if he keeps this up I still believe he will be a solid number 2 or 3 pitcher. I still hope to god that they don't trade him when Pettitte and Pineda come up. I am hopeful we will see Pineda about the same time we see Andy in a Yankee Uniform.

[ajra21]

I've wondered about that comparison myself -- I can see Nova as the above average, steady presence in the rotation for years to come. Obviously, it's no sure thing, but it's not out of the realm of possibility

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. No sure he'll ever strikeout a tone of guys consistently but I do think he'll give us consistent error acne similar to Andy although expecting him to be Andy 2.0 is probably asking way too much.

Sometimes - expectations are way high (see Hughes) or a guy comes up and starts dominating and then can't sustain it (see Joba)... It's a bit frustrating....

I like Nova. (I stole him in the 9th round of our draft last year - pick of the draft!) I'm hoping this guy just continues to pitch like this for a long time. Every pitcher brought up from the minors doesn't have to be an ace.....

Doesn't have to be an ace? Think like a Yankee fan please!

I'm not in front of the stats but I think Nova has been better than Wang was.

EDIT: OK - maybe not. I just checked.

Wang was damn good. Had he not have messed up his foot during that base run we'd have another strong pitcher. That 2009 rotation would have been so much stronger.

Yeah, I truly don't think he is gonna be an ace. But, if he keeps this up I still believe he will be a solid number 2 or 3 pitcher. I still hope to god that they don't trade him when Pettitte and Pineda come up. I am hopeful we will see Pineda about the same time we see Andy in a Yankee Uniform.

They aren't trading Nova unless its for another stud young pitcher and even then I'm not convinced. Our rotation beyond this season will be CC, Pineda, Nova plus other young guys. Also think that Andy might be back again next year.

[Yankeesfan811]

Nova's stuff looks incredible so far this year. Increased velocity too. I am excited about this kid having another great season.

[Shadoux101]

Nova's stuff looks incredible so far this year. Increased velocity too. I am excited about this kid having another great season.

I think he has always had the velocity, he changed last year to more movement and sinking action. This year, he looks like he is mixing up varieties of fastballs with various movements. It's nice to see the growth there as well as other places.

[jcarey]

He's a bit like Garza or Fister with the erratic K/rates. I'm not convinced that he's an 8 K/9 pitcher, but I do think he can be. He needs to use the slider more often.

[89FoxBody]

He pitched much better than his line indicated. Iannettas's HR was incredibly cheesy (not to say that Jeter's was a bomb) and Swisher played Izturis' triple horribly, he wasn't even in the right spot to catch the ball.

[b-ball-lunachick]

I need some moxie detoxie.

follow the swirl...

[ajra21]

Couldn't find a bigger pic?

[Big_E]

Agreed - although this kid is the best starter to come out of the (Yankee) minors since Pettitte.

He's no longer with the team, but Ian Kennedy should be in that discussion too.

He has the 35th best winning percentage of all-time, for pitchers with at least 50 decisions. (Greatly helped by last year's stats).

(Wang is 14th)

[teknetic]

18IP/2BB/20K

Nice.

[Yankee Tripper]

18IP/2BB/20K

Nice.

I am loving these stats the most and gladdly eating crow on my prediction that he would regress from last year's stats.

[THEBOSS84]

18IP/2BB/20K

Nice.

Even though it's only 3 starts, I gotta admit I was expecting Nova to regress a bit this year (though he still can). Those K/9 and K/BB ratios are sparkling so far.

EDIT: YT, we think alike sometimes.

[Mr.Muhozi]

BossaNova.

[apalradio]

follow the swirl...

Have you ever tried this stuff? Tastes like turpentine.

[dabomb2045]

Its kinda ironic how the lesser heralded Yankee pitching prospects end up working out....where as the hyped ones dont

[Mr.Muhozi]

Its kinda ironic how the lesser heralded Yankee pitching prospects end up working out....where as the hyped ones dont

I honestly believe that's attributed to having less stress and pressure to work on yourself so you can iron out the kinks and injuries.

[teknetic]

Applies with Boston also. Pretty sure Laptop got more hype than Lester who had command issues and didn't throw as hard as he currently does.