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    2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    I think this guy can be a solid #2 pitcher. I hope that first (two?) start(s) were just bad outings.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    This is why I hate ST so much....too many people get worked up over ST results. As long as guys get thru the spring healthy, thats all that matters to me.

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    I've only been a baseball fan for a few years. Is it common that pitchers get knocked around in ST and then have good seasons?

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I've only been a baseball fan for a few years. Is it common that pitchers get knocked around in ST and then have good seasons?
    It definetly happens often that great players (both hitters and pitchers) do nothing in ST....yet no-name players do awesome. ST isnt about results...its about doing whatever you need to do to get into game shape and prepare yourself for the reg season. Often veteran pitchers know that, and thus wont be going all out....they just follow their routine to prepare themselves for April and in some cases are working on different things i.e release points, pitches etc etc.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    So, when CC and Kuroda are the only guaranteed spots in the rotation, and nova pitches that poorly, I shouldn't worry about whether or not he makes the rotation? I want Nova to succeed so bad it hurts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    So, when CC and Kuroda are the only guaranteed spots in the rotation, and nova pitches that poorly, I shouldn't worry about whether or not he makes the rotation? I want Nova to succeed so bad it hurts.
    Well I think its ridiculous for anyone to say Nova doesnt have a spot. Short of the guy getting hurt....if he doesnt have a spot when this team breaks camp, then I have a SERIOUS problem with how this team is being run. I think the Yanks are just saying that to motivate Garcia and Hughes.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    So, when CC and Kuroda are the only guaranteed spots in the rotation, and nova pitches that poorly, I shouldn't worry about whether or not he makes the rotation? I want Nova to succeed so bad it hurts.
    My advise:

    1) Don't look into ST stats too much.

    2) Don't take ST quotes seriously.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I've only been a baseball fan for a few years. Is it common that pitchers get knocked around in ST and then have good seasons?
    spring training is meaningless especially first game.
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I've only been a baseball fan for a few years. Is it common that pitchers get knocked around in ST and then have good seasons?
    Pitchers that have something to prove so they have a shot of making the major league team will put on the best display they can in ST. Pitchers like Nova who are assured of a spot on the team will hold back and even experiment with some new pitches and mechanics, which is what you want to see early on in ST because it shows the effort to get better. All this nonsense about him maybe being a 6th starter or that we should be worried over his first start is just that - nonsense.
    Let the kids play.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    I would not be that surprised if Nova's numbers regressed a bit this year but I am in no way worried about his ST performance unless there is some connection to the injury he sustained at the end of last season.
    David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    I would not be that surprised if Nova's numbers regressed a bit this year but I am in no way worried about his ST performance unless there is some connection to the injury he sustained at the end of last season.
    His control was spotty last start and he had problems keeping the ball down

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Is it just me or have they made noticeable changes to his mechanics?

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/...s_nyy&c_id=nyy

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Is it just me or have they made noticeable changes to his mechanics?

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/...s_nyy&c_id=nyy
    I don't see it. What are you seeing?

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Is it just me or have they made noticeable changes to his mechanics?

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/...s_nyy&c_id=nyy
    um..., if there's anything, his arm movement looks a lil different. kinda slingy, Freddy Garcia style. As those clips progress tho, his arm movement looks more like it had last year. I wouldnt assume it was the staff making changes. I mean... it is spring training.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SatchelPaigeYankee View Post
    um..., if there's anything, his arm movement looks a lil different. kinda slingy, Freddy Garcia style. As those clips progress tho, his arm movement looks more like it had last year. I wouldnt assume it was the staff making changes. I mean... it is spring training.

    Don't be paranoid.
    What from my post gave you the impression I was being paranoid? Just looked different to me, and was a little too lazy to go back and look at older clips. Was wondering if anyone else noticed the same thing. Wasn't implying it was good or bad.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    VERY freddy garcia to me, but I'm far from a scout. He looks like he's throwing much softer (actual velocity aside), it look like he's just playing catch.

    Then again, he looked different every start last year:

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/video...83629&c_id=nyy
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    a great site,many useful information!


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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Anyone else mildly concerned about Nova heading into the season?
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Ugly final spring outing. 2.2 IP, 8 H, 2BB, 2 HBP, 5 ER.

    awy - I hope you are right that sring doesn't mean anything.
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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Anyone else mildly concerned about Nova heading into the season?
    I'm concern about his fastball command so I hope that improves starting in his regular season starts.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    He struck out the side for the first time in his career.

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    Has such good stuff.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Um, yeah, wow. He looks tremendous, which is great since a) he looked lost in ST and b) he needs to pitch well in order to not be the odd man out along with Garcia when Pineda and Pettitte almost inevitably take spots prior to the ASB. The fact that he has options works against him in this situation, so I'm really hoping he leaves the organization no choice when they try to squeeze 7 pitchers into 5 spots.

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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    Great job coming back in that inning. I guess there's a lesson about ST in here somewhere
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    Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

    BEAST. Defense around him this game has been terrible.

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