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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    even if he took all the roids in the world what he did was legend. most impressive feat roids or not ever in baseball history

    the idea that steroids allowed bonds to be a monster attributes too much. much like people would look at hulk's strength and imagine radiation is really ................ing crazy. (it's just accelerated dna ionization) people seem to have this idea that the roids are really magical because bonds did some crazy things. bonds did the crazy things because he is ................ing good.
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    btw, people can get banned for greenies now. where are all the pitchforks for that
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    Didn't we get enough of this steroid argument in 2002? Will it ever die?
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    If people think that Bonds used PED throughout his career, then please don't use his HR jump as an evidence.

    IMO PED is overrated.

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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Baseball fans/media want to pretend that they weren't completely on board with the home run races when they were happening so they will rewrite history in the HoF.

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    i thought this image came thru in my last post but it didnt:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/1109...8_20121003.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    For all we know, Tex could have been on steroids. His sharp decline the last few years has been suspicious.

    Hmmm....got the big contract/payday, performance started to decline a year after, nagging injuries and ailments this year...interesting.


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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SatchelPaigeYankee View Post
    i thought this image came thru in my last post but it didnt:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/1109...8_20121003.png
    he could have started taking in 1990
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    even if he took all the roids in the world what he did was legend. most impressive feat roids or not ever in baseball history

    the idea that steroids allowed bonds to be a monster attributes too much. much like people would look at hulk's strength and imagine radiation is really ................ing crazy. (it's just accelerated dna ionization) people seem to have this idea that the roids are really magical because bonds did some crazy things. bonds did the crazy things because he is ................ing good.
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    the idea that steroids allowed bonds to be a monster attributes too much. much like people would look at hulk's strength and imagine radiation is really ................ing crazy. (it's just accelerated dna ionization)
    Your best post ever?
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    If what awy says is true. Theoritically, sone one can come up with a sugar pill like substance, call it steroids-like, without ever failing a drug test and improve players performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyTheJetRodriguez View Post
    dont you think your Giambi vs Tex position is hypocritical given your Andy Pettitte hall of fame position? The HOF exists only to compare players to one another. As an admitted cheater, shouldn't Andy be kept out of the Hall?
    I would say what Andy did was wrong, but not illegal. HGH was not banned in baseball when Andy used.

    As for Tex, I think the biggest reason for the decline in his performance is the shift that he can't overcome and his obsession with the RF wall. His power numbers have never changed at any point in his career - it's his batting average and with it, his OBP that have tumbled.

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    i didn't say roids has no effect. it's just not as big of an effect as some imagine nor does it account for all of bond's performance
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i didn't say roids has no effect. it's just not as big of an effect as some imagine nor does it account for all of bond's performance
    I'm not sure why everyone is so fascinated with dissecting the "% of performance" that steroids is accountable for. If you believe Bonds started in '98, he was a great player on a HOF trajectory. As he aged, he became OTHER-WORLDLY. He had an isop of almost .300 at age 42. Instead of his performance tailing off post-peak, it ramped up significantly.

    Seriously unsure of why you're on this campaign to try and discount the effect of steroids, particularly on the guy whose poster is hung up over your bed.

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    i have a poster of me as a dragon on my poster above my bed. it's titled the pride of lucifer.


    as for roids, it's a common mistake to attribute too much to roids. bonds is the poster boy for this phenomenon
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i have a poster of me as a dragon on my poster above my bed. it's titled the pride of lucifer.


    as for roids, it's a common mistake to attribute too much to roids.
    is your dragon named Balco and have syringes for talons?

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    this is kind of what my dragon looks like
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    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i didn't say roids has no effect. it's just not as big of an effect as some imagine nor does it account for all of bond's performance
    The point still stands then that there could be a sugar pill steroid that would improve player performance. Maybe not to the same effect, but an effect nonetheless.
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    Re: 2012 Mark Teixeira Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    My sentiments exactly.
    40 pitchers, ever, have an ERA+ of 130 or higher for their career. 15 have 140 or higher. 3 guys have 150 or higher - one is right at 150, the second place guy is at 154, and Mariano Rivera is at 205.

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    I miss watching you bat
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    You're into torture porn?

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    Or humiliation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kongull View Post
    The point still stands then that there could be a sugar pill steroid that would improve player performance. Maybe not to the same effect, but an effect nonetheless.
    um, not sure what the point of ur point is
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