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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Some people bring up the reasonable side that relievers have a much different job. His numbers are going to look better because of the IP. However, none have been as dominant as Mo. It's asinine to think he wouldn't be a first ballot, but unanimous? I can understand he wouldn't be.

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...1.3568399?qr=1
    TAMPA, Fla. -- David Aardsma is far from a wide-eyed rookie, having pitched in the majors six seasons.
    But when the former Seattle closer, after doing some early-morning conditioning, walked past the bullpen and saw who was throwing, he stopped and watched.
    "Amazing," Aardsma said, shaking his head after Mariano Rivera threw five cutters to bullpen coach Mike Harkey, who barely had to move his glove.
    Rivera threw his second bullpen -- this one 34 pitches compared to 22 in his first one on Sunday -- and said he'll throw again "Friday or Saturday." Joe Girardi said Rivera's first game likely will be March 15 or 16.
    Rivera spent several minutes after his session talking with guest instructor Andy Pettitte, who later in the day threw batting practice.
    "Pitching," Rivera said of the topic of discussion. "Just how many young pitchers we have here."
    I'm laughing at Aardsma's reaction. Welcome to the Yankees son.

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    Per MLBtr:

    Rivera May announce decision prior to All Star Break

    "I think maybe it will be before the All-Star break," legendary Yankees closer Mariano Rivera told Kevin Kernan of the New York Post regarding an announcement of whether he will pitch in 2013. Rivera wants to be certain of his decision, which he seems to have already made privately. Rivera said that when he does retire, "It would be nice that you tell the fans, so every stadium you go to, the fans will be there to show their appreciation and you appreciate the fans."

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by justtxyank View Post
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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Sounds like he's definitely going to retire.

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    idk why he wouldn't wait another year, pad some more stats.
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    Sounds like he's definitely going to retire.
    I agree-- nobody ever calls a press conference to announce that they're going to keep playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I agree-- nobody ever calls a press conference to announce that they're going to keep playing.
    While I agree with you.... it could be argued:

    yeah - but, no one gives up less than three quarters of a run over 96 post season appearances either...

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    well if he's pitching to a sub 2 era into july it might be a more tricky deciison
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    While I agree with you.... it could be argued:

    yeah - but, no one gives up less than three quarters of a run [per 9 IP] over 96 post season appearances either...

    (I'm reaching for some optimism here...)


    lol @ Mo's phrasing though.
    "It would be nice that you tell the fans, so every stadium you go to, the fans will be there to show their appreciation and you appreciate the fans."
    like delv, but better

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Sounds like someone is starved for attention.


    Give it a rest Mariano. Sheesh.
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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Mariano on his first bullpen session yesterday and other topics (not retirement):
    http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/vide...nt_id=20138653

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    Sounds like someone is starved for attention.


    Give it a rest Mariano. Sheesh.
    One does not simply tell Mariano Rivera to shut up.
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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    well, he'll be giving the yankees an extra half season to find a new closer at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeesfan924 View Post
    One does not simply tell Mariano Rivera to shut up.
    How many times is Mariano going to announce that he knows what he's doing without saying anything?

    It's tedious. Retire, don't retire, whatever. Just shut up and pitch. Enough.
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    it's not like he held conferences to announce 'he knows what he's doing.'

    it's just his answer to media questions and media ran them as stories
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    How many times is Mariano going to announce that he knows what he's doing without saying anything?

    It's tedious. Retire, don't retire, whatever. Just shut up and pitch. Enough.
    Mariano Rivera has shut up and pitched since 1996.
    "Never, never, never quit."-Winston Churchill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    How many times is Mariano going to announce that he knows what he's doing without saying anything?

    It's tedious. Retire, don't retire, whatever. Just shut up and pitch. Enough.
    I didn't want to say anything before, but it's always been my opinion that he's the one who got Cano started with all that ridiculous smiling.

    I don't think these two guys are ever serious about anything-- certainly not baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I didn't want to say anything before, but it's always been my opinion that he's the one who got Cano started with all that ridiculous smiling.

    I don't think these two guys are ever serious about anything, certainly not baseball.
    People put the guy on a peda stool. He's a great pitcher and by all accounts a good guy, but there are things about him that make you shake your head.

    He arrives late to camp most years.
    He rarely if ever travels to away spring training games.
    He nearly always comes up with a minor injury to beg off the All Star Game (I actually applaud this)
    He now makes these constant statements hinting retirement.

    It's not fun. It's not funny.
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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    It's ridiculous, who does this Rivera baseball playing person think he is?

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeesfan924 View Post
    Mariano Rivera has shut up and pitched since 1996.
    Well, really, it was 95... if you wanna get technical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I didn't want to say anything before, but it's always been my opinion that he's the one who got Cano started with all that ridiculous smiling.
    No, that was Melky's fault, after which he was rightfully shipped out for the surly Javy Vazquez.
    Don't tease me, you know what I do for a living.

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    Well, really, it was 95... if you wanna get technical.
    Well he posted a 5+ ERA that year, so he needed to less talking and more pitching in 1995.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    People put the guy on a peda stool. He's a great pitcher and by all accounts a good guy, but there are things about him that make you shake your head.

    He arrives late to camp most years.
    He rarely if ever travels to away spring training games.
    He nearly always comes up with a minor injury to beg off the All Star Game (I actually applaud this)
    He now makes these constant statements hinting retirement.

    It's not fun. It's not funny.
    Plus, he's always teaching his cutter to opposing pitchers. Don't get me started !
    like delv, but better

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    Re: 2012 Mariano Rivera Performance Thread

    I'm tired of that music of his. He should mix it up a bit. He's so boring. One pitch. One music. Over and over again.
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