2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

[Yankees1962]

Great, right now he is a completely different pitcher from when I posted that he sucks.

He's the same pitcher this season as he was last year. Wouldn't it be easier just to say you were wrong with your "he sucks" opinion?

[kan_t]

It's also his 150 win in his professional career. Congrats.

[Mr.Muhozi]

This guy sucks.

[grizy]

He came to the Yankees, on a discount, to win a ring.

He's doing his part. Hopefully everyone else does too.

[Yankee Tripper]

He's 11th in the AL in ERA.
I'd say he's been lucky to face bad NL teams and bad AL offenses but that really hasn't been the case as ATL, NYM & DET, 3 of his last 4 starts are 7th, 9th and 12th in runs scored this year so his run has acutally been against some quality offenses.

[BRNXBMRS]

You stated he sucked, when in fact his career numbers state the opposite. It's cool you think he's good now, but there's a good chance you'll be back on that "suck" bandwagon sooner than later.

Please dont label me a bandwagoner when you dont know me. I wasnt going by his career numbers I was going by his starts up till that time. Thats all, dead issue.

[BRNXBMRS]

he's the same pitcher this season as he was last year. Wouldn't it be easier just to say you were wrong with your "he sucks" opinion?

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[mbn007]

He's 11th in the AL in ERA.
I'd say he's been lucky to face bad NL teams and bad AL offenses but that really hasn't been the case as ATL, NYM & DET, 3 of his last 4 starts are 7th, 9th and 12th in runs scored this year so his run has acutally been against some quality offenses.

He has faced some very quality offenses in his starts this year. Aside from the ones you mentioned, please don't forget he faced Texas (against Darvish) and actually pitched very well, but was overshadowed by Darvish that night.

[Yankee Tripper]

He has faced some very quality offenses in his starts this year. Aside from the ones you mentioned, please don't forget he faced Texas (against Darvish) and actually pitched very well, but was overshadowed by Darvish that night.

cuts both ways - he's faced a bottom 3rd offense in 6 of his starts (Min, LAA, KCR x2, SEA, OAK) so all in all he's faced "about" average opponents. But his recent run of sucess has been more against better teams so that's very encouraging.

[Yankees1962]

cuts both ways - he's faced a bottom 3rd offense in 6 of his starts (Min, LAA, KCR x2, SEA, OAK) so all in all he's faced "about" average opponents. But his recent run of sucess has been more against better teams so that's very encouraging.

Hell, all starting pitchers have faced good and average opponents.

[Yankee Tripper]

Hell, all starting pitchers have faced good and average opponents.

This isn't always true. Sometimes a pitcher winds up facing a dispropotiante number of good or bad offenses. Last year CJ Wilson had a large percentage of his starts against some really bad offenses leading some to question where he could repeat it if he moved elsewhere. So far he's pitched up to the contract he signed.

That said, on average ove 33 starts you are generally correct.

[BobLoblaw]

Hell, all starting pitchers have faced good and average opponents.

Yeah, I don't understand that person's point tbh

[Yankee Tripper]

Yeah, I don't understand that person's point tbh

If you are talking about me, my only point was that Kuroda's recent sucess hasn't been a function pitching against crappy teams - nothing more, nothing less.

[Yankees1962]

If you are talking about me, my only point was that Kuroda's recent sucess hasn't been a function pitching against crappy teams - nothing more, nothing less.

Well, it sure isn't worth having tit for tat posts going back and forth.

[JL25and3]

Well, it sure isn't worth having tit for tat posts going back and forth.

You can keep the tats. I prefer the others.

[Shadoux101]

He has pitched excellent for the majority of his starts aside from a few stinkers.

He has had some tough luck with run support in a few games that come to mind without even looking anything up.

Nunez killed this guy early in the year as well.

He is an excellent pitcher. When he has a few bad starts, he will still be an excellent pitcher.

[Yankeesfan924]

I'll take 125 ERA+ of sucking any day of the week.

[JL25and3]

I'll take 125 ERA+ of sucking any day of the week.

So would any guy.

[snapple]

Keep the ball rolling.

I'm guessing 6IP, 6H, 3ER, 2BB, 5K from Kuroda. Not phenomenal, but enough to keep us in the game.

[grizy]

Kept us in the game.

On a different night, he'd have gotten a W.

[BRNXBMRS]

This guy sucks

[Shadoux101]

This guy sucks

I hate you, hahahahaha.

[MoVaughnEatsAlot]

As great as Tex is on defense, he missed two plays at first that he probably makes about 90% of the time, both those cost runs. Not blaming Tex at all, just saying

[Yankee Tripper]

As great as Tex is on defense, he missed two plays at first that he probably makes about 90% of the time, both those cost runs. Not blaming Tex at all, just saying

and he's slow as molasas on the base paths.

[JL25and3]

and he's slow as molasas on the base paths.

You only say that because we don't get to see Posada anymore.