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    2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Yesterday's "other" acquisition deserves a thread too.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    a good acquisition. when you add in luxury tax, he'll cost us around $13-14m this year i believe. but it's a one year deal. for need he needs to be the #2 (if you believe in such thinks).
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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    I expect him to be on par with what Pettitte was his last run with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justtxyank View Post
    I expect him to be on par with what Pettitte was his last run with us.
    Pettitte's numbers from his second stint with the Yankees are strikingly similar to Kuroda's career numbers, except for Pettitte's walks being higher.
    "We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    "The additions of Pineda and Kuroda have given the Yankees a strikingly deep rotation with six legitimate starters and Burnett."


    http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/stor...da-sources-say


    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    What's the scouting report on Kuroda?

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    I've never seen Kuroda pitch before, but I'm very familiar with his stats.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    For what it's worth, a friend of mine who is a big Dodgers fan is very upset Kuroda won't be returning.
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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    I'm worried about the 24 home runs he gave up last season in the NL West and how the at transfer in our division. But statistically he's a strong pitcher and whilst he may not be the Japanese right handed I wanted this season I'll be rooting for him to do well and he's a perfect stop gap for Man-Ban and Betances.
    40 pitchers, ever, have an ERA+ of 130 or higher for their career. 15 have 140 or higher. 3 guys have 150 or higher - one is right at 150, the second place guy is at 154, and Mariano Rivera is at 205.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Watched some highlights. Man, that ball just pops out of his hand. Love his delivery.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 1936-1939JoeNLou View Post
    What's the scouting report on Kuroda?
    Control pitcher, fastball-slider-splitter. FB 89-92. Like most Japanese pitchers, has a hesitation hitch in his delivery as a timing device. Generally known as a GB pitcher though HRs allowed spiked a little last year even as his ERA improved. (Too lazy to dig into it but I've heard his peripherals declined last year even as his ERA improved. Anybody?)

    Unusual Japanese import starter in that he hasn't burned out after 2 years or so. Age a possible concern (37 this year). Not a potential ace or anything close to it, should be a solid mid-rotation guy in 2012 though.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    OK, he officially passes the personality test.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAzvX2TmBA
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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hellonewman View Post
    Control pitcher, fastball-slider-splitter. FB 89-92. Like most Japanese pitchers, has a hesitation hitch in his delivery as a timing device. Generally known as a GB pitcher though HRs allowed spiked a little last year even as his ERA improved. (Too lazy to dig into it but I've heard his peripherals declined last year even as his ERA improved. Anybody?)

    Unusual Japanese import starter in that he hasn't burned out after 2 years or so. Age a possible concern (37 this year). Not a potential ace or anything close to it, should be a solid mid-rotation guy in 2012 though.
    His average fastball is 92.3 for his career and was 92.1 last year, so I would say his range is more 91-93.

    As far as peripherals: k's and walks were pretty close to identical to his 2010 numbers and much better than the first two years of his career. He gave up more fly balls than usual and had worse luck on homers.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14 View Post
    OK, he officially passes the personality test.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAzvX2TmBA

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    he just has to hold down the weaker hitting lineups to be a worthwhile commitment. nobody is expecting him to dominate the likes of the red sox etc, but the regular season is about logging a lot of innings and quality starts.
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Nikkan sports is reporting the Kuroda was offered a two-year 22m deal by the Yankees but the offer was declined by Kuroda as he only wanted a one-year deal .
    The report also mentions that the one-year deal is worth 16m which must be an error .

    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...16-890171.html

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    that's extremely interesting to see. it shows that teh yankees still enjoy a great deal of good will among japanese players and has a good reputation as the place to be

    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...14-889385.html

    i couldn't understand a word of this but it says 11m contract?
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post

    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...14-889385.html

    i couldn't understand a word of this but it says 11m contract?
    That Nikkan article is from Jan 14 . Nikkan posted an article the next day which says 1.2 billion yen (16m) .
    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...15-889757.html
    I'll stick with the 10/11m figure that the US papers are saying .

    BTW I hate online web page translators .

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    I really hope he can get as many wins as possible so he can get into Meikyukai.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee_Samurai View Post
    Nikkan sports is reporting the Kuroda was offered a two-year 22m deal by the Yankees but the offer was declined by Kuroda as he only wanted a one-year deal .
    The report also mentions that the one-year deal is worth 16m which must be an error .

    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...16-890171.html
    16 hundred million yen.

    Article says he's coming here to play higher level baseball.

    He turned down 22/2 in case he doesn't like new environment, where entire world will be watching.

    Basically CC Jr. Situation except he didn't make us give him a player option

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    This is a great signing, has really good stuff.

    Find it hard to believe the Yankees wanted him for 2 years instead of 1 though.
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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Quote Originally Posted by StaleMilk View Post
    This is a great singing, has really good stuff.

    Find it hard to believe the Yankees wanted him for 2 years instead of 1 though.
    Reportedly. Emphasis in the prior sentence on the word "reportedly." And I know nothing about that source, but I don't see them attributing that "report" to Kuroda or anyone else with firsthand knowledge.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball...14-889385.html

    10 minutes rough draft quality quick translation of the whole article:

    It has been revealed that Hiroki Kuroda (36) has agreed on an one-year deal with the Yankees. It is said to be a 11million dollar (approx 830million yen) contract. Last season, on his 4th year in the MLB, Kuroda pitched in 32 games 202IP 13-16 3.07ERA, all career highs. However his 12million dollar contract was too expensive for the money strapped Dodgers.

    Kuroda also had offers from the Red Sox, Rockies, Dbacks as well. Kuroda, aiming for the biggest challenge, chose the 27 times world champions Yankees. He is hoped to be a part of the starting rotation following ace lefty Sabathia.

    Kuroda's 4 year stats: 115 games 41-46 3.45ERA.

    Nothing new. The 2 year deal stuff and the 16 million stuff seems like rumors that were brought up prior to this article that has since been shot down.

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    Re: 2012 Hiroki Kuroda performance thread

    Again, this guy is going to be an amazing addition to the rotation. He'll pitch well enough to win games with our O. And that's what we need from him. Pitch well enough to win games.

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    It's a great pickup.
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