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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I haven't heard anything-- what did they do?
    cashman revamped the "rehabing pitchers in tampa" operation - got rid of billy connors and nardi contreras and hired gil patterson... and from what i read, more changes are forthcoming
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    whoever in charge of him was pretty nervous after that. they replaced teh tampa regime. maybe not because of this incident but yea
    it was probably a cumulative thing... first was the pineda incident (proving that there's zero accountability down there) and then the whole banuelos mis-diagnosis clusterf*ck.... also the fact that we haven't had any of our high ceiling arms come close to their ceilings... and just an overall lack of development... these all probably prompted the changes
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    It's actually proof of irresponsible behavior. But not proof that he's slacking on his rehab.
    I agree. But, it doesn't matter how plainly it is stated, there are those who still think that Pineda getting a DUI means that he isn't taking his career seriously.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    you are off to lalaland now. if that incident doesn't ring some alarms about keeping him in check you are not in the real world
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    you are off to lalaland now. if that incident doesn't ring some alarms about keeping him in check you are not in the real world
    ...really?
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    very cute
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    remember when Joba had a DUI and was over-analyzed the same way? is his career over yet?

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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    remember when Joba had a DUI and was over-analyzed the same way? is his career over yet?
    at his current rate?
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

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    very cute
    at least you find me cute again
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    the claim that his career is over has been made exactly 0 time.

    the claim is that this is not a good sign for either him or the system. this is hard to dispute


    btw i'd think a policy of no self endangering activity and no binge drinking is pretty reasonable for a rehab program, no?
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    remember when Joba had a DUI and was over-analyzed the same way? is his career over yet?
    Driving under the influence is pretty stupid, and I'd never downplay the potential consequences it can have. That said, I've known plenty of 23 year olds who have done some remarkably self-destructive things and managed to become pretty respectable human beings.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    it si a strong finding in neuroscience that teenagers have quite faulty risk evaluation.

    thus it is good policy to take precaution with teenagers and not assume that they are rational individuals. they are more risky than children
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    it si a strong finding in neuroscience that teenagers have quite faulty risk evaluation.

    thus it is good policy to take precaution with teenagers and not assume that they are rational individuals. they are more risky than children
    I didn't start making really stupid decisions (such as getting married) until I was in my mid-20s. Maybe I'm developmentally challenged?

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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    the claim that his career is over has been made exactly 0 time.

    the claim is that this is not a good sign for either him or the system. this is hard to dispute


    btw i'd think a policy of no self endangering activity and no binge drinking is pretty reasonable for a rehab program, no?
    That's what you're going on about? Who said that him getting a DUI is a good sign for him or for the system???

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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    when you handwave it away it is not a serious recognition of the problem.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    when you handwave it away it is not a serious recognition of the problem.
    And handwringing doesn't mean there's a correlation.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    we are not analyzing time series.

    it's pretty straightforward idk what more cna be said on it
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    I'm sure you'll come up with something.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    cashman revamped the "rehabing pitchers in tampa" operation - got rid of billy connors and nardi contreras and hired gil patterson... and from what i read, more changes are forthcoming
    Nardi Contreras is not gone! He's been reassigned and might even have Billy Connor's old job. The Yankees are apparently adding more resources to their scouting and development staffs.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Nardi Contreras is not gone! He's been reassigned and might even have Billy Connor's old job. The Yankees are apparently adding more resources to their scouting and development staffs.
    i meant "got rid of" in the sense that he no longer has his old job
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by pleasepassthesoup View Post
    I didn't start making really stupid decisions (such as getting married) until I was in my mid-20s.

    tell me about it
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    i feel good that marriage is not a bad decision for me. don't think i'll regret it either.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i feel good that marriage is not a bad decision for me. don't think i'll regret it either.
    She might.
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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    I was kidding. Don't you start getting sensitive on me.
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