2012 Michael Pineda Performance Thread

[False1]

uh, children are supervised at school on their homework without being in school 24/7. etc etc.

So the Yankees should force Papa Pineda and Mama Pineda to move back in with him is what you're saying. Roger that.

[JDPNYY]

Maybe the Ninjas could check Pineda's homework each morning.

[Mr Coffee]

uh, children are supervised at school on their homework without being in school 24/7. etc etc.

What the hell are you talking about?

[LIYanks]

So the Yankees should force Papa Pineda and Mama Pineda to move back in with him is what you're saying. Roger that.

How do you know Michael didn't learn drinking from them? Clearly we have a family history of overeating and overdrinking.

Is alcohol tolerance a critical metric of player's perfomance these days? Maybe a separate thread is in order.

[sweet_lou_14]

Just think how different this thread could have gone if, in post #2455, awy had pretended he knew about the Rays' meth problems and that post #2451 was sarcastic. I thought that was the whole point of vague one-line posts with no punctuation and very little context ... plausible deniability.

[awy]

So the Yankees should force Papa Pineda and Mama Pineda to move back in with him is what you're saying. Roger that.

nope. that is not what i am saying.

[awy]

stuff like this won't work if it is explained. it's like trolling entanglement theorem

[Abe Frohman]

Really the only thing im looking forward to next season is watching this kid pitch.

Hopefully he comes back better than ever and really solidifies the top end of our rotation.

[dave8274]

Really the only thing im looking forward to next season is watching this kid pitch.

Hopefully he comes back better than ever and really solidifies the top end of our rotation.

I'll take 'comes back at all' as a victory.

[sweet_lou_14]

Really the only thing im looking forward to next season is watching this kid pitch.

Hopefully he comes back better than ever and really solidifies the top end of our rotation.

We'll see. He'll have something to prove because right now the book on him (among Yankee fans who got only a glimpse this year) is that he's a man-child with potential work ethic and maturity issues.

I'm always hopeful but I've set my expectations extremely low.

[awy]

with the illustrious alums of the yankees rehab program i have full confidence

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

How long did Jake Peavy take to be effective again? Pineda won't do anything besides frustrate next year.

[Blazer]

A torn labrum injury is something like 80+% unrecoverable for a pitcher. I'm not betting against him, just betting with the odds when I say I don't think he'll ever again be an effective pitcher.

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

A torn labrum injury is something like 80+% unrecoverable for a pitcher. I'm not betting against him, just betting with the odds when I say I don't think he'll ever again be an effective pitcher.

yeah. It sucks, but its true. This was part of the risk.

[-tz]

A torn labrum injury is something like 80+% unrecoverable for a pitcher. I'm not betting against him, just betting with the odds when I say I don't think he'll ever again be an effective pitcher.

But see this article ...

http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/2012/04/40745-40745

Among the pitchers mentioned who recovered quite well from labrum surgery: Chris Carpenter, Jon Rauch, Trevor Hoffman, Curt Schilling, Roger Clemens, Al Leiter (mentioned in a comment).

Oh, and Anibal Sanchez. Hmmm.

[kan_t]

CC
Kuroda
Pettitte
Pineda
Hughes

Can't expect Kuroda and Pettitte to be this good next year. Pineda is the key of making this rotation to be one of the very best in the league.

[ArodEra]

With this type of injury, the odds are stacked against Pineda being effective in 2013 and anywhere close to what he once was, let alone the rest of his career.

[-tz]

With this type of energy, the odds are stacked against Pineda being effective in 2013 and anywhere close to what he once was, let alone the rest of his career.

You think he won't have electric stuff?

[ArodEra]

You think he won't have electric stuff?

LOL....how did injury become energy?

[hardrain]

I am extremely worried that this trade will be worse -- when we look back 20 years from now -- than the Phelps-Buhner trade.

[GordonGecko]

I am extremely worried that this trade will be worse -- when we look back 20 years from now -- than the Phelps-Buhner trade.

At least Seattle felt bad and gave us Ichiro for peanuts in 2012

[False1]

Just a reminder of what was acquired. Hopefully he comes back as close to the same guy.

Any news on Campos' elbow?

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/video...62637&c_id=mlb

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/video...37345&c_id=mlb

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

He's done. Guarantee you he wont break 90 mph.

He's going to have to reinvent himself, as a crafty pitcher. I've never heard of a player regain velocity after shoulder surgery.

[kan_t]

He's done. Guarantee you he wont break 90 mph.

He's going to have to reinvent himself, as a crafty pitcher. I've never heard of a player regain velocity after shoulder surgery.

Curt Schilling

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

Curt Schilling

He had the exact same surgery? What year was it?

Unfortunately he may be more of the exception than the rule.