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02-11-12 01:42 PM #401
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
So much has been made public in trying to move him that he is as good as gone.
They are not going to subject him to ST after all this "get rid of him" with the Pirates. I would love to know the 3 other teams that have expressed interest though."Well guess what? He's dead. You just signed a dead guy." --pleasepassthesoup
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02-11-12 03:09 PM #402
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
Mark Feinsand:
I'm told by a source there's "a good chance" that Burnett-to-Pitt gets done.
/for what it's worth
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02-11-12 03:14 PM #403
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Because they offered him twice that and he shot it down. Because they offered Edwin Jackson a 3 year deal at a better AAV than he got in Washington and he said no. Because Clint Barmes is (I kid you not) quite literally the biggest free agent signing they've ever made, and the highest paid Pirate in history is Matt Morris. Because both Oswalt and Derrek Lee are willing to retire rather than play for the Pirates.
Basically, the team has some money to spend and nobody will take it in free agency. Their best hope is to get someone who doesn't have a choice but to play for them.42 is the answer
Gets to see even more of AJ Burnett now!
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02-11-12 03:19 PM #404
Re: What happens with Burnett?
Here's where my inexperience with baseball, especially with NL, comes to play. What's so bad about the Pirates?
40 pitchers, ever, have an ERA+ of 130 or higher for their career. 15 have 140 or higher. 3 guys have 150 or higher - one is right at 150, the second place guy is at 154, and Mariano Rivera is at 205.
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02-11-12 03:23 PM #405
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
Trading him just to trade him? Makes no sense to me.
We are looking at AJ to be a 5th starter these days. Not an ace, not a #2.
So, with that in mind, do any of you expect AJ to regress and be even worse than he was last year? I don't.
I expect him to be about the same, with the possibility that he improves slightly. There is also a chance, albeit a very small one, that he returns to form and pitches to his potential.
But, either way - even if he pitches as bad as he did last year - he would still be a rock solid 5th starter. Better than anything else we have, and equal to anything we would get at this point.
So, unless by trading him we get out from under his contract OR we get decent talent in return... neither of which appears to be the case here... why would you get rid of him?Jose Molina saved my marriage: http://www.townsandtrails.com/road-trip-to-the-last-yankees-stadium-game
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02-11-12 03:26 PM #406
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02-11-12 03:27 PM #407
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02-11-12 03:27 PM #408
Re: What happens with Burnett?
the 1890's socialist Player's League, founded by workers:
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02-11-12 03:29 PM #409
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02-11-12 03:32 PM #410
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02-11-12 03:37 PM #411
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02-11-12 03:38 PM #412
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
We? All Yankees fans? Or just some inner circle? I think there are some very valid points made in that post. There's no guarantee that Hughes is not a bust again. And Freddy Garcia, as much as I like the guy, is not exactly money in the bank now is he?
I think it would be wise to trade AJ for a fair return. But to give him away for nothing makes little sense irrespective of you preferring that he not pitch at all.Never let the fear of striking out get in your way. - Babe Ruth
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02-11-12 03:49 PM #413
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David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.
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02-11-12 03:51 PM #414
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at a discounted price and taking into consideration the whole "change of scenery" factor, i don't think it's such a stretch that other teams would be interested... he still has the stuff to at least succeed in the NL, imo
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02-11-12 03:52 PM #415
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get it done Cashman
pirates r suckers lolRIP MR. STEINBRENNER
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02-11-12 03:54 PM #416
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AJ has posted an 82 and 86 ERA+ the last two seasons. That production can almost certainly be replicated (if not exceeded) by any number of internal candidates at a fraction of the cost, plus any amount of salary we shed by trading him can be applied towards a better LH DH. Getting him off this team is the very definition of addition by subtraction.
David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.
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02-11-12 03:55 PM #417
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02-11-12 03:55 PM #418
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02-11-12 03:57 PM #419
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02-11-12 04:11 PM #420
Re: What happens with Burnett?
I don't know, I'd be interested in AJ if I were an NL team. Keep in mind, Jeff Karstens had a 3.38 ERA for the Pirates last year. Jeff Karstens! His stuff is worse than AJ's, even now. I can see AJ pitching close to 200 innings of 100+ ERA ball for the Pirates.
I would give the Pirates the following options: AJ + $23mil for decent prospect or AJ + $18mil for a bag of balls.
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02-11-12 04:16 PM #421
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02-11-12 04:17 PM #422
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
[FONT=Arial Black][SIZE=3][B]“I would like to take the great Di Maggio fishing....They say his father was a fisherman. Maybe he was as poor as we are and would understand.”[/B]
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Ernest Hemingway
“The Old Man and the Sea”[/SIZE][/FONT]
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02-11-12 04:24 PM #423
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02-11-12 04:25 PM #424
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
If you could boil it all down from the Yankees POV, I think this sums it up.
This is a playoff contending team, and you can't have a guy take a roster spot that offers nothing.
190 innings can be valuable. 190 innings at 86 ERA+ is a bunch of losses and taxing a bullpen that is our clear advantage over just about every team in the AL East."Well guess what? He's dead. You just signed a dead guy." --pleasepassthesoup
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02-11-12 04:26 PM #425
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Re: What happens with Burnett?
I wonder if they are still down on Alvarez for getting so fat? How about sweeten the pot with Cervelli who they had intrest in and Burnett for Pedro Alvavez?
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