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  1. #376

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    Will Pat V ever see the Show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    Right now he still fits into the grand scheme very well because all those 'catchers' may not be able to catch in the major. Romine is a relatively sure thing.
    He'd have to really be something with the glove for the Yankees to carry such a light hitting catcher

  3. #378

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    Fangraphs Top 15 Yankees Prospects:
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...-york-yankees/
    2) Campos

    Betances: "The right-hander has an above-average fastball sitting between 90-95 mph and it features lots of movement, which causes it to miss the strike zone a little too much."

    I feel like all I've ever heard about Dellin is that his fastball is too straight, no ??

  4. #379

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    Betances's fastball isn't straight; it appears to be rising, and it sits mid 90's, topping out at 98-99. It is a plus swing and miss pitch.
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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    I know the saving grace is that really tall pitchers have a tendency to develop later because of mechanics.

    But let's be real Betances is probably going to end up being a relief pitcher.

    Also Betances is not a legit mid to high 90's guy can we please stop perpetuating that scouting report.

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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCrusader View Post
    I know the saving grace is that really tall pitchers have a tendency to develop later because of mechanics.

    But let's be real Betances is probably going to end up being a relief pitcher.
    Or end up being out of baseball in 3 years.

  7. #382

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    I've seen Betances pitch too much and too well, to prematurely relegate him to the bullpen. He has 3 plus potentially plus pitches and is still working on his release point; Yanks are hardly thinking of him as a reliever at this point.
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  8. #383

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianyanksfan View Post
    with sanchez,murphy,and a couple of other catchers, where does romine fit into the grand scheme of things?
    Murphy and Sanchez are potentially 3 years away. So, they will need someone to catch next year, and with Yadier's new contract, it may very well not be Martin now that cost has essentially escalated.
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  9. #384

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    Fangraphs Top 15 Yankees Prospects:
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...-york-yankees/
    2) Campos
    I love Campos' potential, but ranking him #2 over Betances, Mason and Sanchez is just plain bravado. Right now Campos has one filthy pitch, fringy secondary stuff and will only be in A- ball. Just fangraphs being fangraphs.
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  10. #385

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    It's probably a bit of shiny new toy syndrome with me, but I don't think it's that crazy. It's weird to say since Betances is 3 levels higher, but they have similar floors due to Betances' injury history and his command issues. If I were going to bet just on service time accrued throughout their careers, I would probably take Campos.

    I would still rank Betances ahead, based on what I've read about both, just because less things have to go right for him to reach his 1 or 2 ceiling than for Campos to do the same. Hulet seems pretty convinced that he is a reliever, though.

  11. #386

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikeowenfan View Post
    It's probably a bit of shiny new toy syndrome with me, but I don't think it's that crazy. It's weird to say since Betances is 3 levels higher, but they have similar floors due to Betances' injury history and his command issues. If I were going to bet just on service time accrued throughout their careers, I would probably take Campos.

    I would still rank Betances ahead, based on what I've read about both, just because less things have to go right for him to reach his 1 or 2 ceiling than for Campos to do the same. Hulet seems pretty convinced that he is a reliever, though.
    I really do like Campos, but he right now essentially has one pitch. Betances already has a changeup, and it is pretty darn good. He just needs to command his FB better, and his CB will follow. Most outings Betances is flat out dominant. I'm hoping for more 2010 than 2011 in terms of command. Also Yanks have been tinkering with him, so hopefully he makes adjustments and gets more consistent with his release point. Piliere still sees him as a starter, as do I.
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  12. #387

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Will Pat V ever see the Show?
    Anyone?

  13. #388

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    Anyone?
    If I had to guess, he will pitch in the majors, but mostly somewhere else. The Yankees have too many relievers that are better.
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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    I'd love to see Venditte pitch some garbage innings some day just for the novelty of it, but if you're asking for folks to guess whether or not that ever happens, I'd put my money on "no."

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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    Per Baseball America, Yanks signed Alex Smith, an University of New Haven (Conn.) product . He signed with the Frontier League's River City club in February and then the Yankees purchased his contract. According to one source, Smith has arm strength but not a lot of polish or secondary stuff at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99 View Post
    Per Baseball America, Yanks signed Alex Smith, an University of New Haven (Conn.) product . He signed with the Frontier League's River City club in February and then the Yankees purchased his contract. According to one source, Smith has arm strength but not a lot of polish or secondary stuff at this stage.
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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    Betances and Banuelos pitched in today's ST game against the Phillies. I missed Banuelos but Betances was all over the place. I think MLB network is re-airing the game tonight at 7:00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    Betances and Banuelos pitched in today's ST game against the Phillies. I missed Banuelos but Betances was all over the place. I think MLB network is re-airing the game tonight at 7:00.

    Sanchez also caught today. Let 3 pitches get by him. Only time Ive seen him, but he has alot of work to get done.
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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    Betances only Yankee to show up in Baseball America's top 70 right handed pitcher prospects - #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99 View Post
    Betances only Yankee to show up in Baseball America's top 70 right handed pitcher prospects - #21


    campos is there at 38 they just listed him with the mariners
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  21. #396

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99 View Post
    Betances only Yankee to show up in Baseball America's top 70 right handed pitcher prospects - #21
    He was actually #20.
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  22. #397

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    Josh Norris listed minor league work groups on his blog. Interesting that Bleich is listed. Also that Suttle is not.

    http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/
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  23. #398

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    Quote Originally Posted by philleotardo View Post
    Josh Norris listed minor league work groups on his blog. Interesting that Bleich is listed. Also that Suttle is not.

    http://minormatterstrenton.blogspot.com/
    Suttle's shoulder is still hurting and his career is in jeopardy.

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    Re: Offseason Prospect Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Suttle's shoulder is still hurting and his career is in jeopardy.
    I have already viewed him as a bust and have moved on.

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    I never understood the big deal over Suttle.

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