The Red Sox Thread

[wat]

Reading that quote, I read it as a knock on Aceves (i.e. Pedroia is a baseball player and Aceves is not).

Given Aceves' recent team suspension, of course it is. The knock on Valentine isn't that he's a bullsh**ter...it's that he says things to the press that he probably shouldn't.

[nhyankeefan]

Reading that quote, I read it as a knock on Aceves (i.e. Pedroia is a baseball player and Aceves is not).

I read it the same way, it's clear that Bobby V has no patience for Aceves right now. As you said he's gone from a closer to a mop up man in less than a week.

[JDPNYY]

I hope the Red Sox have a worse September this year than they did last year.

[Casey at the Bat]

The NESN feed of this debacle is great, because you can see Salty's face as he is pushed out of the way. His facial expression says "WTF, I'm surrounded by idiots!" They had a few gold glove gems in this game.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24422203

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?co...y_24422297&v=3

[ieddyi]

As any trade value DiceK had slips away......

[Gigi Buffon]

Besides the missed pop fly, what else did he do?

Alfredo Aceves Had A Weird Day

Not really sure what was going on with Alfredo Aceves yesterday, but he was
acting like a bigger
basket case than usual. He and Dustin Pedroia got into an argument in the
dugout—probably because Aceves threw over to second, like, 17 times and Pedroia
seemed ill-prepared for each successive toss—and were eventually separated by
coaches, including Bobby Valentine, who also felt the wrath of Aceves.


Then Aceves inexplicably got in the way of catcher Jared Saltalamachia's put
out of a foul-ball pop-fly. Finally, It looks like Aceves tries to use another
foul ball for his next pitch and he and the home plate umpire begin barking back
and forth about that...

http://deadspin.com/5939955/alfredo-...ad-a-weird-day

[JDPNYY]

Was today just a normal loss for the Red Sox or did something awesome happen?

[smr15]

Alfredo Aceves Had A Weird Day




http://deadspin.com/5939955/alfredo-...ad-a-weird-day

The truth comes out......... he's an embedded Yankee.

[YankeeFan1421]

i root against the red sox almost as much as i root for the yankees. But I have to admit, having them be THIS bad is almost no fun.

[just-blaze]

The truth comes out......... he's an embedded Yankee.

Well, we do have Lowe.

[smr15]

Well, we do have Lowe.

Curses!

Foiled again!

[LongtimeNYYFan]

Apparently, and according to the Herald, Henry and Cherington flew to Seattle ahead of the Red Sox team. Could be nothing or are they there to give him a show of support or to send him packing?

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/

[YankeePride1967]

Apparently, and according to the Herald, Henry and Cherington flew to Seattle ahead of the Red Sox team. Could be nothing or are they there to give him a show of support or to send him packing?

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/

I don't think they fly to Seattle to pat him on the back.

[JDPNYY]

Reports are trickling in that a clearly agitated Bud Selig met yesterday in an emergency meeting with his top advisers (John Henry and Peter Gammons) and they were unable to bang out a deal that would allow 8 Wild Card Teams for this year's playoffs. According to an unnamed source close to the thinking of the three giants (Peter Gammons), they have not given up hope that this can get hammered out for this year.

Plans for 10 teams to be Wild Cards this year, perhaps in the AL only, as an experiment (if necessary) were also discussed.

[LongtimeNYYFan]

I don't think they fly to Seattle to pat him on the back.

True. But the Globe reports that team officials said it was Cherington's plan all along to catch up with the team in Seattle. (No mention of Henry going to Seattle in the Globe article.) Gotta ask why? The Sox are back in Boston after the 3 game set against the Mariners. What is so pressing that Cherington had to be in Seattle today? Some of Valentine's comments and actions over the last week make it sound like he thinks or knows the end is near.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...s/extra_bases/

[Sixty one]

Are the Red Sox mailing these games in? They probably won't win again until they play the falling pinstripes.

[nhyankeefan]

Are the Red Sox mailing these games in? They probably won't win again until they play the falling pinstripes.

I don't think they're mailing it in, but getting a higher draft pick is probably a higher proiority than winning right now.

[teknetic]

It's gone unnoticed somehow because he's acted like a tool, but what the Sox are doing to Aceves is pretty criminal.

8/28: 24 pitches
8/29: 33
8/30: DNP
8/31: 23
9/1: 63

143 pitches over the course of five days is abnormal as hell. Valentine is a total scumbag; perfect fit for this franchise.

[TommyK8]

It's gone unnoticed somehow because he's acted like a tool, but what the Sox are doing to Aceves is pretty criminal.

8/28: 24 pitches
8/29: 33
8/30: DNP
8/31: 23
9/1: 63

143 pitches over the course of five days is abnormal as hell. Valentine is a total scumbag; perfect fit for this franchise.

They claim they are stretching him out to be a starter for the last few weeks of the season, although this does not seem to be the way to do it.

[Blazer]

Apparently, and according to the Herald, Henry and Cherington flew to Seattle ahead of the Red Sox team. Could be nothing or are they there to give him a show of support or to send him packing?

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/

Seattle is the closest MLB city to Japan.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

I don't think they're mailing it in, but getting a higher draft pick is probably a higher proiority than winning right now.

I don't think the players really care about a draft pick

[conkermaniac]

It's gone unnoticed somehow because he's acted like a tool, but what the Sox are doing to Aceves is pretty criminal.

8/28: 24 pitches
8/29: 33
8/30: DNP
8/31: 23
9/1: 63

143 pitches over the course of five days is abnormal as hell. Valentine is a total scumbag; perfect fit for this franchise.

I've noticed. Quite frankly, I don't even think what Aceves did to Valentine was that bad. He at least deserved the courtesy of knowing ahead of time that the Red Sox were going to try someone else at closer.

[Bronson'sCornrows]

I hope the Red Sox have a worse September this year than they did last year.

So far, so good.

I don't think they're mailing it in, but getting a higher draft pick is probably a higher proiority than winning right now.

For me it definitely is. For the guys out there losing these games, I really don't think it's something they take into consideration.

[TommyK8]

Obviously as a fan with pride in my team, I hate to see the Red Sox lose everyday, but there will be a silver lining, in my opinion, if the Red Sox lose enough to cost Valentine his job. I want a fresh start next year, not the long shadow of Bobby Valentine darkening Spring Training next year. A better draft pick will also be the result. I hope the Red Sox get a real good look at Lavarnway and Iglesias in the next month as well. They have decisions to make at both of those positions going forward, and I'm not convinced that either one of them should automatically be penciled into those positions for the long-term future.

[JDPNYY]

Here's to many many continuous fresh starts every year for the Red Sox.