The Red Sox Thread

[Art Vanderlay]

Given the history I understnd the focus on Boston. Howver, I maintain what I've said since Opening Day, the real threat to the Yankees in the division is Tampa, not Baltimore, not Toronto, not Boston

[Gator's Shadow]

Nice!

http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/t...ohn_lac_1.html

"Comcast Sports New England's Joe Haggerty reports that rehabbing Red Sox starter John Lackey, who has been traveling with the team while recovering from Tommy John surgery, was seen drinking in the Red Sox clubhouse after last night's 5-3 loss in Cleveland:

There were others that just don’t seem to care about wins or losses anymore.
Like John Lackey, who apparently needs to travel with the team and work with trainer Mike Reinold while recovering from Tommy John surgery – a fairly standard rehab that literally thousands of pitchers have come back from stronger-than-ever over the last 30 years.

But for whatever reason, the underachieving righty needs to travel with the team even though he won’t be throwing even one measly pitch for them.

Lackey was so busted up after the latest defeat that he was strutting around the clubhouse with a can of Bud Light in each hand, or what is known as “double-fisting” on every college campus in the history of mankind.

So much for the Bobby Valentine ban on alcohol in the Sox clubhouse that was implemented during spring training."

While i think the actual impact of chicken, beer etc on the fortunes of the Red Sox was and is vastly overblown, its still amazing to see the disconnect between the players, the manager, management, and fan perception. Unbelieveable.

[nhyankeefan]

I don't see anything wrong with drinking a beer in the clubhouse after the game but I love that it seems to be creating another issue for the Sox.

[teknetic]

I don't see anything wrong with drinking a beer in the clubhouse after the game but I love that it seems to be creating another issue for the Sox.

It was ban for Fenway only. They can drink if they're on the road; it usually isn't a big deal, but after what happened last year, the guy obviously doesn't care and/or is stupid. Probably both.

There's also this:

Boston Dirt Dogs: Josh Beckett at the Bar at Beantown Pub Until 2 a.m. Monday Night

Did Red Sox starter Josh Beckett do everything he could to be in peak condition for his crucial start against the Texas Rangers in Wednesday's matinee at Fenway? Beckett was spotted belly-up-to-the-bar at the Beantown Pub on Tremont Steet until closing time, 2 a.m., Monday night. The Beantown Pub would not confirm that Beckett was in the establishment at the time reported.

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/201..._as_the_o.html

[RenoHightower]

It was ban for Fenway only. They can drink if they're on the road; it usually isn't a big deal, but after what happened last year, the guy obviously doesn't care and/or is stupid. Probably both.

There's also this:



http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/201..._as_the_o.html

He was there. A guy I work with saw him.

[Mr Coffee]

He was there. A guy I work with saw him.

Nice.

Now Beckett is going to spend the next six months trying to find out who your friend is.

[hellonewman]

Although I hope whatever trance he put them under to hire him is still in place, as I really hope he's still around in '13.

No "trance." Lucchino wanted a professional "Yankees suck" pot-stirrer to serve as a distraction from the franchise's troubles and Valentine fit the bill perfectly.

It's a bad baseball strategy but I don't think Lucchino/Henry had to be hoodwinked into it. It was Plan A all along IMO.

Whether V is back in 2013 or not will probably have a lot to do with how full/empty the stands are in September.

[JWHIII]

The ban on alcohol is the source of their struggles. It tastes great, makes women appear more attractive and makes a person virtually invulnerable to criticism.

[Texsahara]

Beer is no big deal but double-fistIng Bud Light??!! Disgraceful.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

No "trance." Lucchino wanted a professional "Yankees suck" pot-stirrer to serve as a distraction from the franchise's troubles and Valentine fit the bill perfectly.

It's a bad baseball strategy but I don't think Lucchino/Henry had to be hoodwinked into it. It was Plan A all along IMO.

Whether V is back in 2013 or not will probably have a lot to do with how full/empty the stands are in September.

The stands have been noticeably clearer for much of this year. The fact that they still have a "sellout" streak is a bit of a local joke

[YankeePride1967]

Wil Middlebrooks broke his wrist last night and may be out for the year.

[RenoHightower]

Wil Middlebrooks broke his wrist last night and may be out for the year.

The Aristocrats!

[Mr Coffee]

Wil Middlebrooks broke his wrist last night and may be out for the year.

At least they still have Beltre. I mean Youkilis. I mean...

[just-blaze]

At least they still have Beltre. I mean Youkilis. I mean...

You mean Ciriaco. The wrath has begun.

[ajra21]

At least they still have Beltre. I mean Youkilis. I mean...

Broken wrist have long term recovery issues, as we will find with Alex. If I were the Red Sox FO, Crawford would be having TJ surgery tomorrow. Why delay it?

[ieddyi]

Broken wrist have long term recovery issues, as we will find with Alex. If I were the Red Sox FO, Crawford would be having TJ surgery tomorrow. Why delay it?

Al broke a finger, no?

[ajra21]

Al broke a finger, no?

Hand.

[Texsahara]

Hand.

If you knew it was the hand, why the comparison to Middlebrook's wrist? I'm confused.

[ajra21]

If you knew it was the hand, why the comparison to Middlebrook's wrist? I'm confused.

Hitters tend get over finger injuries far quicker than hand/wrist injuries.

[ieddyi]

Hitters tend get over finger injuries far quicker than hand/wrist injuries.

His question was on point, there's a huge difference between hand and wrist injuries.

The wrist bones are small and compacted in a very small place. The problem w/ healing is the blood supply to the injured wrist bones. The type of injury Al had commonly heals w/o further complications

[Bronson'sCornrows]

When did you guys start calling him Al? I'm so confused. This is what I get for not spending any time in ItL anymore.

[sweet_lou_14]

When did you guys start calling him Al? I'm so confused. This is what I get for not spending any time in ItL anymore.

Very few fans call him that. But they seem to call him that in the clubhouse, and have for several years. I'm pretty sure it goes back to the Torre era, but Girardi in particular uses it a lot.

[ieddyi]

"Out since July 17 with a strained Achilles’ tendon, David Ortiz wants to come back and play for the Red Sox as soon as possible. However, he made it clear Sunday that he’s thinking ahead to his upcoming free agency in deciding not to rush his return.

“If you go back and play sore, of course you could [tear it]. It’s not healed. It’s not ready and I don’t want to run that risk,” Ortiz told CSNNE.com’s Joe Haggerty. “I’m a free agent after this year and I don’t want to have a surgery going into free agency.”"

That's the spirit!

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...gency-looming/

[4bronxbombers]

"Out since July 17 with a strained Achilles’ tendon, David Ortiz wants to come back and play for the Red Sox as soon as possible. However, he made it clear Sunday that he’s thinking ahead to his upcoming free agency in deciding not to rush his return.

“If you go back and play sore, of course you could [tear it]. It’s not healed. It’s not ready and I don’t want to run that risk,” Ortiz told CSNNE.com’s Joe Haggerty. “I’m a free agent after this year and I don’t want to have a surgery going into free agency.”"

That's the spirit!

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...gency-looming/

In other words, eff you RS.

[JDPNYY]

"Out since July 17 with a strained Achilles’ tendon, David Ortiz wants to come back and play for the Red Sox as soon as possible. However, he made it clear Sunday that he’s thinking ahead to his upcoming free agency in deciding not to rush his return.

“If you go back and play sore, of course you could [tear it]. It’s not healed. It’s not ready and I don’t want to run that risk,” Ortiz told CSNNE.com’s Joe Haggerty. “I’m a free agent after this year and I don’t want to have a surgery going into free agency.”"

That's the spirit!

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...gency-looming/

As a DH there are 4 or 5 times a game where you need to leave the safety of the beer and chicken in the clubhouse. On the DL you can always feel safe.