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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Chris Davis is the first AL position player to win a game as a pitcher since 1968. I believe that was the Yankees' Rocky Colavito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    I saw it too and I thought he was whining about the umpires calling pitches that weren't in the strike zone balls.
    Could be that....I could not tell quite frankly but either way he seemed upset. Gave up 3 HR again....seems like his delivery alteration post injury might have a huge role to play in that.
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    LOL. They can't even hit Chris Davis. Looks like the only way Boston wins is of they score 10 runs or more.
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    Wow, TWO scoreless innings from Chris Davis? And two strikeouts? He struck out A-Gon

    Things are so bad, it's almost hard to laugh at them.
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    You know you hit a new low when you get Orioles trolls:

    posted by Orange Jerseys:

    Maybe you guys need more payroll?


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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hellonewman View Post
    Chris Davis is the first AL position player to win a game as a pitcher since 1968. I believe that was the Yankees' Rocky Colavito.
    I was 9 years old that day, listening to the game on radio at the beach. We celebrated.
    We toast to the old days and DiMaggio too,
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    LOL. They can't even hit Chris Davis. Looks like the only way Boston wins is of they score 10 runs or more.
    Hey now....I think you forget the game where we scored 15 against them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanksfanintoronto View Post
    Hey now....I think you forget the game where we scored 15 against them
    True. They needed 16 that day!
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    Davis > Buchholz
    We toast to the old days and DiMaggio too,
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    I'll continue to watch and root because I want my favorite team to win but sadly this gives me quite a bit of satisfaction after the way Francona was treated. Although even he couldn't do anything with this disastrous roster.

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    I don't understand why they thought Tito was the problem or how Bobby V would be the solution

    And the lineup isn't that bad. The Sox have some great players. You act like it's the Pirates.
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    Buccholz has given up at least 5 ER in each of his 6 starts this season. at least hes consistent

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    It's karma for that fluke ass year he had a few years ago. Thankfully, his peripherals still suck (29IP/15BB/19SO before today's starts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    I don't understand why they thought Tito was the problem or how Bobby V would be the solution
    Beer and chicken! Beer and chicken! Remember this was the "greatest team evah" going into last season. If it wasn't for beer and chicken, they'd have won it all!

    Get rid of that beer-and-chicken-tolerating Francona, and all will be well!

    And this wasn't just a delusion of the Red Sox ownership/front office, by the way. A lot of Yankee fans here bought into that meme too. When at the end of the season I suggested "beer and chicken" was a media-driven diversion and that the Sox were actually a deeply flawed team on the decline - chicken or no chicken - I had to fight my way out. Not against Sox fans, against Yankee fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellonewman View Post
    Beer and chicken! Beer and chicken! Remember this was the "greatest team evah" going into last season. If it wasn't for beer and chicken, they'd have won it all!

    Get rid of that beer-and-chicken-tolerating Francona, and all will be well!

    And this wasn't just a delusion of the Red Sox ownership/front office, by the way. A lot of Yankee fans here bought into that meme too. When at the end of the season I suggested "beer and chicken" was a media-driven diversion and that the Sox were actually a deeply flawed team on the decline - chicken or no chicken - I had to fight my way out. Not against Sox fans, against Yankee fans.
    I don't believe that team was deeply flawed though. They had all the tools to make it into the playoffs. They just sucked down the stretch. Guys that normally won, didn't. Guys that normally hit, didn't. Maybe they were exhausted. Maybe it was the managing. Maybe it was bad luck, or bad attitude, but that was a decent team who should have made the playoffs. They weren't perfect, and they certainly weren't going to win it all, but they were better than the slop out there today.

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    this is too good
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    It's karma for that fluke ass year he had a few years ago. Thankfully, his peripherals still suck (29IP/15BB/19SO before today's starts).
    I don't think that year was a total fluke- though he did get better results than his peripherals deserved. He made a big jump as a pitcher- command of several pitches- good velocity

    There has to be something wrong now physically- he's just not the same pitcher now- it's like he's throwing BP
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    It was most definitely a total fluke. He outperformed his FIP/xFIP by a substantial margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    It was most definitely a total fluke. He outperformed his FIP/xFIP by a substantial margin.
    When I opened this thread (went straight to last post), I thought you were talking about Chris Davis and lolled.
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    Don't worry Sox fans. Dice-K is almost ready to rescue the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    Don't worry Sox fans. Dice-K is almost ready to rescue the day.
    ok, that is freakin funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bronxbombers View Post
    ok, that is freakin funny

    He's been working extra hard to get that gyro ball ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey at the Bat View Post
    I don't believe that team was deeply flawed though. They had all the tools to make it into the playoffs. They just sucked down the stretch. Guys that normally won, didn't. Guys that normally hit, didn't. Maybe they were exhausted. Maybe it was the managing. Maybe it was bad luck, or bad attitude, but that was a decent team who should have made the playoffs. They weren't perfect, and they certainly weren't going to win it all, but they were better than the slop out there today.
    Forgive me, but I just had to do that.....Lackey is a tool, Beckett is a tool......

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    It was most definitely a total fluke. He outperformed his FIP/xFIP by a substantial margin.
    Well, I think FIP has big problems as a stat, but I was talking about his development as a pitcher. When he first came up, he had a great change and not much else

    In 2010, his fangraph pitch vales showed FB as +17, the change as +6.8 and the slider as + 4.1

    In short he developed very good stuff. Compare that arc to Phil Hughes "progress" and tell me we wouldn't be overjoyed if Phil had that type or arsenal?
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Ouch. Pretty harsh piece from Eric Wilbur with boston.com, even if there is some truth to it.....

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