The Red Sox Thread

[1970cs]

its easy to go 10-1 when you score 8.2 runs per start. hes statistically horrible

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/...94982532428523
There are a couple of appearances out of the bullpen during garbage time thrown into his stats that were really bad, and 2 starts that he got blown out.

[awy]

Not really, he still kinda sucks.

6.4 K/9
5.2 BB/9
10 H/9
1.7 WHIP

the guy is like a prospect right now. the good starts matter more than the bad ones. that he is even starting is an improvement in itself

[nnysiny]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/...94982532428523
There are a couple of appearances out of the bullpen during garbage time thrown into his stats that were really bad, and one start that he got blown out.

thats why i said runs per start, not appearance. and if you want to pick apart appearances, might as well bring up that 3 of his 10 starts were against NL teams who were below-average offensively, and two were in NL ballparks

[1970cs]

thats why i said runs per start, not appearance. and if you want to pick apart appearances, might as well bring up that 3 of his 10 starts were against NL teams who were below-average offensively, and two were in NL ballparks

Because Houston and Pitts are pitchers parks? In 8 of his starts he has pitched 5 innings or more and given up 3 or less runs. Don't put him on you're fantasy team, but the guy has been decent.

[blumj]

Miller's strung together a few good starts in a row plenty of times before, and he's been a useful enough fill-in so far. Maybe he'll even manage to figure out how to be consistent over longer stretches at some point in the future and will be worth hanging onto for next season. But there's no reason to be convinced that he's fixed in any sort of permanent way now.

[nnysiny]

Because Houston and Pitts are pitchers parks? In 8 of his starts he has pitched 5 innings or more and given up 3 or less runs. Don't put him on you're fantasy team, but the guy has been decent.

"NL parks" meaning he faced other pitchers instead of DHs. both parks you mentioned were neutral this year, since you're curious

[1970cs]

"NL parks" meaning he faced other pitchers instead of DHs. both parks you mentioned were neutral this year, since you're curious

I wasn't.

[awy]

still improving on his past performances. fixing does not mean making him an ace, just that he's more than garbage.

[1970cs]

"NL parks" meaning he faced other pitchers instead of DHs. both parks you mentioned were neutral this year, since you're curious

AL (Dis)Advantage During Interleague Play
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6989

This point seems lost on you

[teknetic]

the guy is like a prospect right now. the good starts matter more than the bad ones. that he is even starting is an improvement in itself

He's logged 350 innings as a major leaguer. He's past the prospect stage; that's not to say that he was a good one, his peripherals sucked then also. He had shiny numbers in 2008, but he was also a 23-year-old in A/AA ball. Dude just isn't very good.

I don't know how Boston's rotation is set, but it's gonna be funny if/when they decide to skip him next week.

[awy]

i'm saying this because they apparently put him through some sort of program in the minors this year, and he had decent numbers there.

[nnysiny]

AL (Dis)Advantage During Interleague Play
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6989

This point seems lost on you

you should have read that article, instead of stopping after the title

[1970cs]

you should have read that article, instead of stopping after the title

The loss of run production from not having the DH for an AL club effects their normal run production, therefore the AL pitcher has to give up fewer runs than a normal AL game.

Perhaps you could have thought about it a little more.

[4bronxbombers]

i'm going out on a limb here but i'm thinking

you don't sh#t about the sox........ = troll

:d

bingo!

[BobLoblaw]

Watching the Sox lose... Much more enjoyable than watching the Yankees lose.

[Yankee Tripper]

Watching the Sox lose... Much more enjoyable than watching the Yankees lose.

Hopefully the A's pitch better than yesterday.

[BobLoblaw]

Hopefully the A's pitch better than yesterday.

I think it would be difficult to pitch worse, but we'll see.

EDIT: They're definitely trying...

[4bronxbombers]

Watching the Sox lose... Much more enjoyable than watching the Yankees lose.

Hmm.....I guess I'll turn on NESN for a minute.

[blumj]

Darnell McDonald's pitching, got a huge cheer for throwing the 1st one to the backstop.

[False1]

still improving on his past performances. fixing does not mean making him an ace, just that he's more than garbage.

So the Yankees fixed Garcia, Colon, Wade, Logan and Ayala?

[goin for 27]

He's logged 350 innings as a major leaguer. He's past the prospect stage; that's not to say that he was a good one, his peripherals sucked then also. He had shiny numbers in 2008, but he was also a 23-year-old in A/AA ball. Dude just isn't very good.

Sounds a lot like Hughes. Shiny numbers in '09, just isn't very good since.....

[teknetic]

Not a whole lot like Hughes. Miller's mL track record wasn't nearly as good and Hughes' command is a lot better. Gonna be interesting to see if they skip him this week.

[awy]

So the Yankees fixed Garcia, Colon, Wade, Logan and Ayala?

well, the difference being that the red sox's treatment of miller is more focused. they did send him to the minors to tweak stuff.

in any case what the yankees do is irrelevant here.

[blumj]

Andrew Miller, Erik Bedard, and John Lackey will pitch against Texas. Tim Wakefield is being pushed back to the series at Toronto.

Also:

Don't expect a bunch of call-ups on Thursday. J.D. Drew will be activated and a pitcher will be added from the Pawtucket roster. There are no plans for a third catcher until Ryan Lavarnway is eligible to come back.

Kevin Youkilis returns on Friday. Beyond that, call-ups will be added as needed.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...on_set_fo.html

[Bronson'sCornrows]

Was it just me or was Rapuano awful at the plate all ................ing night? I don't think I'm being biased, either, he was awful pretty much every at bat.