The Red Sox Thread

[CalYankeeFan]

Melancon sent down to Pawtucket

Their closer injured and their set up man in the minors.........

...and it's only April.

[Bronson'sCornrows]

He only played 109 games in '08 also (81 last year)

Very productive player when he was in the lineup, but the problem was keeping him there- not a massive disappointment because the expectations were low anyway. It was an overpay in $$ and years, but not a disaster ( compared to other bad Theo FA deals )

That's pretty much how I felt about it. I was originally annoyed by the signing and had relatively low expectations vis a vis playing time and overall performance. He exceeded my expectations for sure.

[b-ball-lunachick]

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...enway-ceremony

I wish he would have stood his ground. the article says he regretted some of his comments yet i don't see larry or henry quoted in there saying they felt bad. eff them. i hope he gets the loudest ovation there and i hope lucchino and henry get booed.

[fredgmuggs]

I wish he would have stood his ground. the article says he regretted some of his comments yet i don't see larry or henry quoted in there saying they felt bad. eff them.

He's a class guy and you go for the fans and try not to let all the front office petty stuff take away from that.

[b-ball-lunachick]

He's a class guy and you go for the fans and try not to let all the front office petty stuff take away from that.

no doubt he's a class act all the way..but the fans can thank him in other ways. Some were talking about making their own thank Tito day on a random day where they would honor him without the help of ownership...but i guess if this is what he wants, good for him..

[ajra21]

Wish he hadn't buckled either but understand why he's attending.

[4bronxbombers]

Same. Disappointed he gave in - esp with those 2 morons at the helm. LL and Henry.

[Gigi Buffon]

I wish he would have stood his ground. the article says he regretted some of his comments yet i don't see larry or henry quoted in there saying they felt bad. eff them. i hope he gets the loudest ovation there and i hope lucchino and henry get booed.

They all make me sick including Saint Tito.

[pjfan]

I don't know how it's going to be set up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tito completely ignores the ownership guys. He'll get a huge pop from the crowd, and probably exchange some nice words with players. He owes the ownership nothing. I think 95% of the fans are very happy that he is attending.

And on a side note, this team pretty much sucks right now.

[YankeePride1967]

Over/under of July 1, 2012 for Bobby V's reign to end. You don't call out one of the mainstays in public two weeks into your first year as manager there. And after the way Francona was treated I am surprised to see he changed his mind when the two goons that own the team haven't said one word about regretting their shameful handling of it.

[4bronxbombers]

Over/under of July 1, 2012 for Bobby V's reign to end. You don't call out one of the mainstays in public two weeks into your first year as manager there. And after the way Francona was treated I am surprised to see he changed his mind when the two goons that own the team haven't said one word about regretting their shameful handling of it.

My husband thinks the same thing - well, he didn't say July 1st but he said this year too.

[cptcarl]

I'm curious how Valentine allows Melancon to give up 3 jacks, 2 walks, 6 runs, all earned, despite not gettting an out. Was nobody else warmed up?

Game was already over before Melancon began to contaminate his sleeping surface with elimination products. No real reason for V to pull him - he only faced 6 batters as it was.

[cptcarl]

Although these things are hard to predict accurately, of course, I think we're at the start of a Red Sox mini-Ice Age that will last 2-3 years, perhaps more. Injuries and a parcel of bad contracts handed out for past performance, topped by Theo's Legacy, the Worst Free Agent Contract Ever Written (That's you, Carl!) have robbed the organization of the financial flexibility to fix things any time soon. There will be several black holes in the line-up for years to come. Maybe we can switch places with the Astros and move to the NL Central?

Long term we're OK, though. We're stacked at low A and high A . If only I live long enough...

[ieddyi]

Although these things are hard to predict accurately, of course, I think we're at the start of a Red Sox mini-Ice Age that will last 2-3 years, perhaps more. Injuries and a parcel of bad contracts handed out for past performance, topped by Theo's Legacy, the Worst Free Agent Contract Ever Written (That's you, Carl!) have robbed the organization of the financial flexibility to fix things any time soon. There will be several black holes in the line-up for years to come. Maybe we can switch places with the Astros and move to the NL Central?

Long term we're OK, though. We're stacked at low A and high A . If only I live long enough...

Last year, after their horrible start, Yanks fans were giddy but knew that it was a very good team and would turn it around and go on a run.

This year, the potential for train wreck was easy to see. Move after move by the FO were head scratchers- topped off by hiring Valentine. Given the de facto hard salary cap and the limitation on draft and International signings, it's gonna be a lot harder for the big money teams to use financial resources as they did in the past.

[35Knucklecurve]

He's a class guy and you go for the fans and try not to let all the front office petty stuff take away from that.

Exactly - Tito gets it. I think it's the utmost tribute to him that even though he was "the enemy", he always had the respect of Yankee fans. He deserved far better than he got not only from management, but his own players. They're already paying the price. Meanwhile, we get to enjoy his insight and humor as a very competent analyst for ESPN..... and they needed one badly.

[Mr Coffee]

He should jog out there with a bucket of chicken and a six-pack.

Because f*** you, that's why.

[effdamets]

He should jog out there with a bucket of chicken and a six-pack.

Because f*** you, that's why.

That would be hilarious.

[4bronxbombers]

He should jog out there with a bucket of chicken and a six-pack.

Because f*** you, that's why.

[ArodEra]

He should jog out there with a bucket of chicken and a six-pack.

Because f*** you, that's why.

I'd love to see Francona jog out with a bottle of prescription pills in one hand and hot, bikini-clad babes on either side of him. Then, when he lines up next to the other honorees on the foul line, he should start popping the pills into his mouth - - tossing them in the air and catching them with his tongue like it's popcorn.

[YankeePride1967]

Per John Heyman, Theo Epstein was not invited to the 100th Anniversary ceremony. Total class Boston.

[gregzzy22]

Per John Heyman, Theo Epstein was not invited to the 100th Anniversary ceremony. Total class Boston.

Lol. They didnt even extend the invitation? I mean I'm sure Theo would politely decline anyway.

[effdamets]

Per John Heyman, Theo Epstein was not invited to the 100th Anniversary ceremony. Total class Boston.

Hmmmm - ya know I've been thinking....

What's this celebration gonna be like?
What can the Sox possibly celebrate over the 100 year sample?

14 years of success and 86 years of misery?

[Big_E]

Hmmmm - ya know I've been thinking....

What's this celebration gonna be like?
What can the Sox possibly celebrate over the 100 year sample?

14 years of success and 86 years of misery?

Celebrating Fenway not the team.

[4bronxbombers]

Hmmmm - ya know I've been thinking....

What's this celebration gonna be like?
What can the Sox possibly celebrate over the 100 year sample?

14 years of success and 86 years of misery?

[ArodEra]

Hmmmm - ya know I've been thinking....

What's this celebration gonna be like?
What can the Sox possibly celebrate over the 100 year sample?

14 years of success and 86 years of misery?

Actually, if you define success as winning the World Series, 14 years of success in 100 years would be a very nice accomplishment. But, of course, the Red Sox can't claim this. Instead, they'd have 2 years of success in 100 years.

If we are to include World Series appearances - winning the pennant and the series, the Sox would have 6 years of success. Hence, I can't see how the Sox had more than 6 successful years in 100 years.

Which makes the Yankees run in the same time frame all the more incredible - 27 World Championships and 40 World Series appearances.