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    Quote Originally Posted by ArodEra View Post
    Cherington comparing his style to Theo's using the analogy - comparing their prowess (or lack thereof) at picking up ladies in a bar, sounded unprofessional to say the least. Not to mention that Theo's married.

    Did the Sox hire a frat boy or GM?
    Is there a link to the press conference? I missed that one..there's something about just the pictures of him that creeps me out a bit - not sure why...

    I heard he was dating someone named Tyler Tumminia or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    Has it been confirmed that Lackey's contract will be extended a year at $400k? I can't imagine Lackey, his agent or the union allowing that w/out a fight and I think it will be pretty hard for the Sox to prove that the surgery was due to a pre 2010 condition.
    I'm pretty sure there was a clause in his contract about this... I don't think it has anytihng to do with a pre-existing condition or be something that the union will have an issue with
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston View Post
    I'm pretty sure there was a clause in his contract about this... I don't think it has anytihng to do with a pre-existing condition or be something that the union will have an issue with
    Cots spefically mentions a pre-exisiting elbow condition...

    2015 club option at Major League minimum salary if Lackey misses significant time with surgery for pre-existing elbow injury in 2010-14
    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...n-red-sox.html

    and according to ESPN, there was definitely something recent that was the major driver in the surgery...

    When the season ended, Lackey was sent back to Los Angeles to be examined by Yocum and had another MRI taken. After Yocum compared the two MRIs, it was decided Lackey would have the procedure.

    "That (MRI) showed some additional change and based on a combination of the symptoms, the physical exam with Yocum and the new MRI, Yocum felt like it was time to consider surgery and John agreed," Cherington said
    http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...y-john-surgery

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gigi Buffon View Post
    Makes him now untradeable. They still have to pay him $30.5 mil for 2012-13.
    If only Hoyer was still in SD........
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    man, Lackey needs TJS. The hits just keep coming
    The real reason why the Yankees keep winning is cause the other team can't stop staring at the damn pinstripes

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/T...Red-Sox-102511
    The Jays issued a statement Tuesday that said employees won't be permitted to leave for the same job in another organization - essentially blocking a move by Farrell back to the Red Sox.

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    Cots spefically mentions a pre-exisiting elbow condition...



    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...n-red-sox.html

    and according to ESPN, there was definitely something recent that was the major driver in the surgery...


    http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/...y-john-surgery
    It's being reported that this injury falls under that clause, here and in other places:

    Though it's down the road and perhaps unlikely, Lackey's operation may mean that the Red Sox could end up with a relative bargain, if the right-hander comes back and proves serviceable. There's a clause in Lackey's contract that gives the Sox a team option at the Major League minimum salary for 2015 if he misses significant time with surgery for a preexisting elbow injury. As of now, Lackey and the Sox are contractually committed to each other through 2014.
    http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/ar...s_bos&c_id=bos

    The quote you posted actually supports this -- it says there's been "some additional change" in his condition -- which implies that a pre-existing condition got worse. That would certainly be within the scope of his contract clause.
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    John Farrell has the John Wayne jaw thing going and he seems to be well respected by his players. But I thought his in game managing was odd this past season. I can't point to any specific examples but I recall thinking "odd move" or something else like that many times in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pleasepassthesoup View Post
    Also per the press conference: Lackey is having Tommy John surgery and will miss the 2012 season.
    Any chance he can work a 2 for 1 surgery deal and get something done about that face injury?
    Whatever you think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhyankeefan View Post
    Cots spefically mentions a pre-exisiting elbow condition...
    While taking a look at Cots I couldn't help but notice Crawford's deal. Wow! Theo was really afraid of Crawford EVER going to the Yankees. Grossly overpaid to keep him away from the Bronx and then included a clause that prevents him from going to NY if traded to another team. Great job by Cashman bluffing interest.

    Carl Crawford LF
    7 years/$142M (2011-17)

    signed by Boston as a free agent 12/11/10 $6M signing bonus (paid in $1M increments 1/10, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1, 8/1, 9/1/10)

    11:$14M, 12:$19.5M, 13:$20M, 14:$20.25M, 15:$20.5M, 16:$20.75M, 17:$21M
    no-trade protection:

    Crawford may block deals to two clubs
    if traded, club acquiring Crawford may not subsequently trade him to NY Yankees

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    Any chance he can work a 2 for 1 surgery deal and get something done about that face injury?
    That's an awful lot of extra work to throw in for free...

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by OldYankeeFan View Post
    While taking a look at Cots I couldn't help but notice Crawford's deal. Wow! Theo was really afraid of Crawford EVER going to the Yankees. Grossly overpaid to keep him away from the Bronx and then included a clause that prevents him from going to NY if traded to another team. Great job by Cashman bluffing interest.
    Carl Crawford LF
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    signed by Boston as a free agent 12/11/10 $6M signing bonus (paid in $1M increments 1/10, 5/1, 6/1, 7/1, 8/1, 9/1/10)

    11:$14M, 12:$19.5M, 13:$20M, 14:$20.25M, 15:$20.5M, 16:$20.75M, 17:$21M
    no-trade protection:

    Crawford may block deals to two clubs
    if traded, club acquiring Crawford may not subsequently trade him to NY Yankees
    That contract starts off bad and gets worse.
    DFA ARod.

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gigi Buffon View Post
    That contract starts off bad and gets worse.

    Karma man....how'd that 1st year work for ya Theo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick View Post
    Is there a link to the press conference? I missed that one..there's something about just the pictures of him that creeps me out a bit - not sure why...

    I heard he was dating someone named Tyler Tumminia or something...
    Actually it was during his post presser interview at WEEI. Here's the link:

    http://audio.weei.com/a/47592169/new...e-big-show.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bronxbombers View Post
    Hopefully a frat boy - that would be much more fun.

    LOL...and no doubt wearing that ugly, faded, blueish-gray, frumpy Sox cap that lacks style and that the Boston frat boys seem to favor.


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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by pleasepassthesoup View Post
    That's an awful lot of extra work to throw in for free...
    He should shop around. Someone must be willing to give him a buy one get one 50% off or something.
    Whatever you think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BronxYanks45 View Post
    man, Lackey needs TJS. The hits just keep coming
    I wonder if Red Sox fans consider this a good thing or a bad thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick View Post
    there's something about just the pictures of him that creeps me out a bit - not sure why...
    Creepy in kinda like a Burt Reynolds.............post plastic surgery, way?


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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    Any chance he can work a 2 for 1 surgery deal and get something done about that face injury?
    They're doctors, not magicians.

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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees Empire View Post
    I wonder if Red Sox fans consider this a good thing or a bad thing?
    Is he a good pitcher, or a bad pitcher? (said in my best Glinda the good witch voice.)

    Which is to say: TJ surgery equals: Ding-dong, the ..... well, you get the gist....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    Any chance he can work a 2 for 1 surgery deal and get something done about that face injury?
    You mean the one where they use material from your butt to patch up your face? I thought for sure he'd already gotten that one. The inability to fully close your mouth is usually the tell-tale sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14 View Post
    You mean the one where they use material from your butt to patch up your face? I thought for sure he'd already gotten that one. The inability to fully close your mouth is usually the tell-tale sign.
    poor Phil Hughes
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    Re: The Red Sox Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees Empire View Post
    I wonder if Red Sox fans consider this a good thing or a bad thing?
    He won't pitch 1 inning in a Red Sox uniform next season. I can't see how that can be labled as anything but fantastic news for the team and the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjfan View Post
    He won't pitch 1 inning in a Red Sox uniform next season. I can't see how that can be labled as anything but fantastic news for the team and the fans.
    And very bad news for Yankee fans.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    And very bad news for Yankee fans.....
    The silver lining is that he will still be included in their payroll.
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