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    2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Came out from Sickels.

    Yankees at #6 overall.

    Notables:
    Royals at #1
    Red Sox at #19
    Mets at #25


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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    These aren't actually Sickels' rankings. A poster on his site came up with these rankings based on Sickels' grade valuation system along with Victor Wang's $ value set on each type of prospect - for example, the $ value of an "A" hitter is higher than an "A" pitcher, because of the higher likelihood of a pitching prospect being a bust.

    Good to see the Yanks at #6 anyway though. Jim Callis also has them as a top-6 system.

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Oh, ok, thanks! That was good clarification!

    I am glad to see the Yankees system getting a lot of love from the people who rank these things.
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Jim Callis also has them as a top-6 system.
    Actually 5th

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Keith Law also revealed his rankings..

    Not surprisingly, he ranked the Yankees lower than any other sources (9th) and the Red Sox higher than any other source (11th).

    Most feel the Yankees system is top 5 or close and the Sox below average, yet Law has them almost equal.
    Not surprising I suppose, considering the source.
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by aeromac76 View Post
    Keith Law also revealed his rankings..

    Not surprisingly, he ranked the Yankees lower than any other sources (9th) and the Red Sox higher than any other source (11th).

    Most feel the Yankees system is top 5 or close and the Sox below average, yet Law has them almost equal.
    Not surprising I suppose, considering the source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabien Brandy View Post
    Don't say that to Mike Axisa. He will fight you.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabien Brandy View Post
    Don't say that to Mike Axisa. He will fight you.
    That's his baseball guru.
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    That's his baseball guru.
    poster on wall-style?
    "If we have to, we'll hoard everybody. That's what the Yankees used to do."

    “Most lineups will hate facing our pitching and most pitching will hate facing our lineup,”

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ArodMVP217 View Post
    poster on ceiling-style?
    Fixed.

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Melan-cynic View Post
    Fixed.
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Melan-cynic View Post
    Fixed.
    What does that mean?
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabien Brandy View Post
    What does that mean?
    convenient asexual healing
    "If we have to, we'll hoard everybody. That's what the Yankees used to do."

    “Most lineups will hate facing our pitching and most pitching will hate facing our lineup,”

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    convenient asexual healing
    What does that mean?
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Today, I received my 2011 BA Prospect Book. The following are their Minor League System Rankings in the book.

    1.Royals
    2.Braves
    3.Rays
    4.Blue Jays
    5.Yankees
    6.Reds
    7.Indians
    8.Cubs
    9.Padres
    10.Rockies
    11.Phillies
    12.Dodgers
    13.Twins
    14.Nationals
    15.Rangers
    16.Angels
    17.Red Sox (After AGon trade)
    18.Mariners
    19.Pirates
    20.Mets
    21.Orioles
    22.Diamondbacks
    23.Giants
    24.Cardinals
    25.Tigers
    26.Astros
    27.White Sox
    28.Athletics
    29.Marlins
    30.Brewers
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Based on the below tweet, it seems as though Callis has left ManBan off his top 100 list entirely -

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    Want to see improved stuff over more than 60 IP. @mrconti: no banuelos on list due needing to see full yr but kelly, ranaudo, cole make it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Based on the below tweet, it seems as though Callis has left ManBan off his top 100 list entirely -

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    Want to see improved stuff over more than 60 IP. @mrconti: no banuelos on list due needing to see full yr but kelly, ranaudo, cole make it?
    Manuel, who's the one that really tracks the Yankee prospects for BA has Betances at #18 and Banuelos at #20.

    However, Callis with Kelly at #32 leaves me wondering about him and Lingo is even worse with Kelly at #23?????
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    A side note both Callis and Manuel have Montero at #3 while Lingo has him at #4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Manuel, who's the one that really tracks the Yankee prospects for BA has Betances at #18 and Banuelos at #20.
    Yeah Manuel has us with four top 20 prospects in the game... I value his opinion over anyone else there. Lingo is meh and Callis is biased. Manuel is a Red Sox fan as well, but he tends to have his moments for and against the Yankees. I find him to be the most stable guy out there though.

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    When does BA's top 100 come out?

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Was watching the MLB network top 50..
    Seems to be a lot of disparity on things.

    They had Montero at #9, which seemed low to me..
    They had Banuelos in the top 25 I think, Betances not even on the top 50 list.
    Gary Sanchez was in the 30's I think...

    (Montero, Banuelos and Sanchez the only Yankees they had top 50).

    They did not, at least as far as I know, rank teams from an organizational standpoint..
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Based on the below tweet, it seems as though Callis has left ManBan off his top 100 list entirely -

    jimcallisBA Jim Callis



    Want to see improved stuff over more than 60 IP. @mrconti: no banuelos on list due needing to see full yr but kelly, ranaudo, cole make it?

    See I drop the hell of of a guy's credibility when they do things like this.
    I can see someone deciding to rank a guy a bit lower because of small sample size, but when the world says a guy is top 20 or 30 material, and then one guy just decides he is not even top 100, it just costs you credibility.

    It is one thing to say you think the Red Sox will win the division next year, it is another to say the Yankees will finish last.
    The first statement, while we may disagree, is not far fetched. The second one is just unintelligible.

    I mean, Banuelos might have a small sample size compared to others, but I'd rather have a small sample of dominance than a larger sample of mediocrity (Casey Kelly for instance).
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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Based on the below tweet, it seems as though Callis has left ManBan off his top 100 list entirely -

    jimcallisBA Jim Callis



    Want to see improved stuff over more than 60 IP. @mrconti: no banuelos on list due needing to see full yr but kelly, ranaudo, cole make it?
    You are in full fledged WMV sh*t-stirrer mode.

    That tweet was in response to his list of top 15 pitching prospects in the country (including college/HS not yet drafted) 21 and under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCrusader View Post
    When does BA's top 100 come out?
    Here's Manuel's top 50 from the handbook

    1. Bryce Harper, Nationals
    2. Mike Trout, Angels
    3. Jesus Montero, Yankees
    4. Dom Brown, Phillies
    5. Jeremy Hellickson, Rays
    6. Julio Teheran, Braves
    7. Eric Hosmer, Royals
    8. Dustin Ackley, M's
    9. Shelby Miller, Cards
    10. Matt Moore, Rays
    11. Wil Myers, Royals
    12. Mike Moustakas, Royals
    13. Aroldis Chapman, Reds
    14. Michael Pineda, M's
    15. Martin Perez, Rangers
    16. Freddie Freeman, Braves
    17. Gary Sanchez, Yankees
    18. Dellin Betances, Yankees
    19. Jameson Taillon, Pirates
    20. Manny Banuelos, Yankees
    21. Manny Machado, O's
    22. Dee Gordon, Dodgers
    23. Zach Britton, O's
    24. Kyle Drabek, Blue Jays
    25. Mike Montgomery, Royals
    26. Brandon Belt, Giants
    27. Lonnie Chisenhall, Indians
    28. Kyle Gibson, Twins
    29. Chris Sale, White Sox
    30. John Lamb, Royals
    31. Alex White, Indians
    32. Casey Kelly, Padres
    33. Travis d'Arnaud, Blue Jays
    34. aaron Hicks, Twins
    35. Brett Lawrie, Blue Jays
    36. Desmond Jennings, Rays
    37. Jon Singleton, Phillies
    38. Randall Delgado, Braves
    39. Chris Archer, Rays
    40. Jason Kipnis, Indians
    41. Brett Jackson, Cubs
    42. Tyler Matzek, Rockies
    43. Jacob Turner, Tigers
    44. Derek Norris, Nationals
    45. Jordan Lyles, Astros
    46. Wilmer Flores, Mets
    47. Mike Minor, Braves
    48. Wilin Rosario, Rockies
    49. Tony Sanchez, Pirates
    50. Cesar Puello, Mets

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    Re: 2011 Minor League System Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch View Post
    You are in full fledged WMV sh*t-stirrer mode.

    That tweet was in response to his list of top 15 pitching prospects in the country (including college/HS not yet drafted) 21 and under.

    Awesome job, Sey!
    Thanks, pal. People make mistakes. Like when the Yanks drafted....ah forget it.

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