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    League realignment

    Looks like we have at least enough support to start the discussion about league realignment.

    So far we're looking at 5 divisions with 4 teams, and a WC spot decided by most points as the leading candidate for realignment.

    The purpose is to get a 2 week Championship round and keeping a schedule which has every team playing the team within their division twice and each team outside their division once.

    Nominees for the division name so far: [updated]
    Jeter
    Munson
    Berra
    Steinbrenner
    Mattingly
    Ford
    Guidry

    Let's get this discussion going seriously now. Not sure how much work it will be to decide everything and then get a proper schedule so the sooner the better.

    Looks like the possible polls put up for voting on realignment, so far, should be:
    -Are you in favor of realignment to 5 divisions in place of 4
    -new division name
    -6 or 7 playoff teams (meaning 5 division winners and 1 or 2 wild cards)
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    Looks like we have at least enough support to start the discussion about league realignment.

    So far we're looking at 5 divisions with 4 teams, and a WC spot decided by most points as the leading candidate for realignment.

    The purpose is to get a 2 week Championship round and keeping a schedule which has every team playing the team within their division twice and each team outside their division once.

    Nominees for the division name so far:
    Jeter
    Munson
    Berra
    Steinbrenner

    Let's get this discussion going seriously now. Not sure how much work it will be to decide everything and then get a proper schedule so the sooner the better.
    I'm definitely for re-alignment into 5 divisions; playing the other three teams in the division twice. 2 WC with division winner with most points getting a bye.
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    Re: League realignment

    It would only be 1 wild card team. The other 5 playoff teams would be division winners.
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    Re: League realignment

    So in this format, the two best division winners get the bye week - but how is this decided? By record or points? I say record first then points as a tie breaker. If record wins a division, then the best division winners should follow the same.
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    So in this format, the two best division winners get the bye week - but how is this decided? By record or points? I say record first then points as a tie breaker. If record wins a division, then the best division winners should follow the same.
    As much as possible should be points based
    5 teams + 1 WC
    1st & 2nd Bye
    3rd v. Most Pts WC
    4th v. 5th

    1st plays lowest ranked of the winners
    2nd plays other

    Championship = 2weeks.
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    Re: League realignment

    Here is another suggestion that Eric came up with to keep 2 WC teams.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E
    ONE other possibility....


    20 teams, 5 divisions, 4 teams per division

    Play each team in your division twice (6 games) and each team in other divisions once (16 games). Total 22 regular season games, including All Star week. Best team (points) not to win the division gets Wild Card, AND best record (W/L) to not win their division get Wild Card resulting in 7 playoff teams. Then 1 week for rounds 1 and 2, and 2 weeks for round 3, with the best division winner getting a bye in round 1.

    Round one: Team 2 vs Team 7 (GAME ONE); Team 3 vs Team 6 (GAME TWO); Team 4 vs Team 5 (GAME THREE).

    Round two: Team 1 vs GAME ONE winner; GAME TWO winner vs GAME THREE winner

    Round three: CHAMPJONSHIP (Two Weeks)

    this keeps the TWO WC slots in tact.
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    Re: League realignment

    Also, regarding the division names... I'd like to toss out there that we already have 4 retro names for the divisions. Jeter deserves to be named with those guys and not everything needs to be about what happened a hundred years ago.

    If that didn't work, I will attempt to use the Jedi mind trick on you all.
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthianblast
    As much as possible should be points based
    5 teams + 1 WC
    1st & 2nd Bye
    3rd v. Most Pts WC
    4th v. 5th

    1st plays lowest ranked of the winners
    2nd plays other

    Championship = 2weeks.
    We have always gone with record and points as the tie breaker. I see no reason why we should change that now. MLB does it by record, not by points differentials.
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    Re: League realignment

    I think Jeter is the worst of the choices. I'd even rather Mattingly. You shouldn't name a division for a current player. That's like retiring a number.

    Even Rivera would be better for current players but I think Munson is the best choice of those given.

    I'd prefer to vote from:
    Munson
    Mattingly
    Ford
    Guidry
    Berra
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    Re: League realignment

    Well with the way we have it now, just having someone alive will be a treat.
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    Re: League realignment

    Do you guys mean the Munson from Kingpin?
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    Re: League realignment

    I'll vote for a 5 division realignment.

    How would we decide who moves where? Random number assignment?

    I would vote for

    Berra

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    Re: League realignment

    I propose me and E stay in the same division - arch rivals and all....
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    Re: League realignment

    I'll vote for a 5 division realignment.



    I would vote for

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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by miko
    I propose me and E stay in the same division - arch rivals and all....
    Works for me.

    Besides, the LOU'S have to be in the GEHRIG division...

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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E
    Works for me.

    Besides, the LOU'S have to be in the GEHRIG division...
    ...unless we have a tifoso Division.
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    Re: League realignment

    For everyone's convenience and for the commissioner that will be handling this issue, I've been updating the first post with info like division name nominations and how many playoff seeds there should be. Should anything else come up I will continue to update. If I've missed anything let me know.
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    Re: League realignment

    Sax offered this option which I also like:

    20 teams, 2 leagues, 2 divisions per league

    Play each team in your league twice (18 games) and three or four teams in the other league once (3/4 games), rotating each year. 21 or 22 games per year, with or without the Wild Card week, depending on the interleague games. Wild Card and playoffs work as per 2010, except that extra week is available for Chamjonship round.
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    Sax offered this option which I also like:

    20 teams, 2 leagues, 2 divisions per league

    Play each team in your league twice (18 games) and three or four teams in the other league once (3/4 games), rotating each year. 21 or 22 games per year, with or without the Wild Card week, depending on the interleague games. Wild Card and playoffs work as per 2010, except that extra week is available for Chamjonship round.
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    Looks like the possible polls put up for voting on realignment, so far, should be:
    -Are you in favor of realignment to 5 divisions in place of 4
    -new division name
    -6 or 7 playoff teams (meaning 5 division winners and 1 or 2 wild cards)
    The third question should only matter if the first question is voted "yes". If we stick to 4 divisions, 6 playoff teams are enough.
    However, I would vote "yes" on 5 divisions only if it implies 7 playoff teams - so we don't lose the "best record" WC spot.
    The poll should contain a combination of these options.
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    Re: League realignment

    Well we would just need to run a poll about the change first. Once we decide if a change will be made, then we can do the different options. Like how many wild cards, how many divisions, if we make two leagues like Sax suggested, ect. I think the first poll should just be "do you want a change or not
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    Well we would just need to run a poll about the change first. Once we decide if a change will be made, then we can do the different options. Like how many wild cards, how many divisions, if we make two leagues like Sax suggested, ect. I think the first poll should just be "do you want a change or not
    I still think the two should be somehow related. To me at least, going with 4 or 5 divisions depends whether or not we will have 6 or 7 playoff teams.
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    Re: League realignment

    Well I don't want the votes to go wasted. Here's the possible problem:

    Poll:
    Do you want division expansion?
    - No, leave as is with 4 divisions/5 teams
    - Yes, expand to 5 divisions/4 teams in each/2 wild cards
    - Yes, expand to 5 divisions/4 teams in each/1 wild card

    Now if you lose votes to "NO, leave as is...." you don't get a true vote on which option to change it to if changing wins. If people who vote "No" lose and are forced to vote for a change, we get a truer indication of how the league wants the change because there is no "no" option to vote for once a change is decided.

    SO I say we should decide if the majority of the league wants a change or not, then go with a secondary poll to decide which change is more popular if it's decided.

    make sense? It does in my head.
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    Re: League realignment

    People know what the possible options are by now, at least those who are paying attention. So no need to bring up what they are just yet.

    I dunno, this is what I'd do just to make sure. You don't want someone who voted no change but since they are forced to deal with a change saying "well if I had to I'd vote for the other one"
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    Re: League realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    People know what the possible options are by now, at least those who are paying attention. So no need to bring up what they are just yet.

    I dunno, this is what I'd do just to make sure. You don't want someone who voted no change but since they are forced to deal with a change saying "well if I had to I'd vote for the other one"
    I think the best way is as stated previously; vote for a change to occur. Then vote on the name of change and the type of change that will be made separately.
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