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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    There's still people out there whining about the Lee non-signing? Like, are you unaware that he not only preferred Philly, but that they also offered him a favorable contract?
    No, he's whining about Hughes not meeting his potential and the same with Joba.

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    I just wish one of them turns out to be a #2 starter as I'm sick and tired of reading how the Yankees can't develop pitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    No, he's whining about Hughes not meeting his potential and the same with Joba.
    Ha, I'm not whining at all. I said I believe Cashman is the man for the job. I fully endorse him.

    The facts are on my side when it comes to starting pitching. It's not really debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Ha, I'm not whining at all. I said I believe Cashman is the man for the job. I fully endorse him.

    The facts are on my side when it comes to starting pitching. It's not really debatable.
    The fact of the matter is you want results now, but developing pitching isn't that simple and it takes time. For every Lester, there are several others that don't measure up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    No, he's whining about Hughes not meeting his potential and the same with Joba.
    I wasn't talking about Seymour.

    Quote Originally Posted by d32123 View Post
    It really depends on what his production is like in five years. If he thinks he can still be as dominant by then, he took the better deal, but iirc the Yankees offered the bigger over all contract.
    I'm too lazy to look at the details, but I think Philly offered him a higher AAV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Ha, I'm not whining at all. I said I believe Cashman is the man for the job. I fully endorse him.

    The facts are on my side when it comes to starting pitching. It's not really debatable.
    I think your facts are offset by a SSS. I also think adding Rothschild is going to help with the process
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    I wasn't talking about Seymour.



    I'm too lazy to look at the details, but I think Philly offered him a higher AAV.
    Yeah but the Yankees offered two more years so overall he was guaranteed more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d32123 View Post
    Yeah but the Yankees offered two more years so overall he was guaranteed more money.
    Hence, higher AAV from the Phils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    Hence, higher AAV from the Phils.
    Still don't get how teknetic's post contradicts my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    I wasn't talking about Seymour.



    I'm too lazy to look at the details, but I think Philly offered him a higher AAV.
    I think this is true, but I also think the Yanks offered him an appreciably longer deal at the silly money level. Since it is extremely likely that Lee would not be offered that type of money at such an advanced age, the Yankees most likely offered him the most favorable contract. However....the fact the Phillies offered him more in the years he'd sign for makes it a viable choice. You can continue to play with the likelihood that the Yanks probably would've bumped their offer significantly higher than the Phils if they would have shortened it to the years he eventually received, but we'd all be in a circular argument with no end.

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    i think lee preferred returning to philly and picthing away from the AL east agiant pitchers and not DHs. he claimed that he chose philly over NY because their team was younger, a claim that was inaccurate.
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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21 View Post
    i think lee preferred returning to philly and picthing away from the AL east agiant pitchers and not DHs. he claimed that he chose philly over NY because their team was younger, a claim that was inaccurate.
    There was also a claim about the Hospital situation in Philly, that his son needed. I do not have a link, but it was in the Cliff Lee thread around the time he signed with Philly.

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Are we still beating the Cliff Lee horse to death? That's even worse than Haren; at least Cashman had a choice in the Haren miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Are we still beating the Cliff Lee horse to death? That's even worse than Haren; at least Cashman had a choice in the Haren miss.
    Agree. Cashman did everything he could to sign Lee as a FA, short of begging or becoming his butler.

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by mbn007 View Post
    There was also a claim about the Hospital situation in Philly, that his son needed. I do not have a link, but it was in the Cliff Lee thread around the time he signed with Philly.
    well remembered, i heard that too somewhere.

    philly has good hospitals huh? bet they're good at removing half sunk batteries from the human skull.
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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by bomber999 View Post
    Agree. Cashman did everything he could to sign Lee as a FA, short of begging or becoming his butler.
    clearly no committment. it's probably his last year,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21 View Post
    well remembered, i heard that too somewhere.

    philly has good hospitals huh? bet they're good at removing half sunk batteries from the human skull.
    Ha. They actually have one of the best children's hospitals in the world. Affiliated with UPenn.

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by gold23 View Post
    Ha. They actually have one of the best children's hospitals in the world. Affiliated with UPenn.
    you know what? i knew that. why on earth would i know that?

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21 View Post
    i think lee preferred returning to philly and picthing away from the AL east agiant pitchers and not DHs. he claimed that he chose philly over NY because their team was younger, a claim that was inaccurate.
    Fear for those AL East bats. I find it humorous when a pitcher shies away from the AL. I wasn't overly impressed with Lee's performance with Texas last year and I thank Christ that Peavy wanted nothing to do with our division. And yeah, when they lie (Lee regarding Phillies' collective age), that really cheapens their rhetoric.
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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman-of-TheBoard View Post
    Fear for those AL East bats. I find it humorous when a pitcher shies away from the AL. I wasn't overly impressed with Lee's performance with Texas last year and I thank Christ that Peavy wanted nothing to do with our division. And yeah, when they lie (Lee regarding Phillies' collective age), that really cheapens their rhetoric.
    peavy has been injured so it has dimished who he was/is but i agree that i never felt good about him leaving petco for the AL. as for lee, it was a big change for lee going from safeco to the heat of texas. he impressed me in texas so a degree. he clearly didn't enjoy being traded around and wanted to go somewhere he was very comfortable with. i wasn't surprised when he stayed away from NY.
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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    This guy pitching for the Angels tonight is pretty good.

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    This guy pitching for the Angels tonight is pretty good.
    Shame he wasn't on the block recently, at low prices nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    This guy pitching for the Angels tonight is pretty good.
    The guy he's pitching against? Not so good.

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Cash is a funny man:

    “The stuff on A.J. is way overblown. A.J.’s been solid for us this year. I just think the way it’s playing doesn’t necessarily reflect how he’s pitched,” Cashman said. “The public outcry recently is all emotion rather than factual.”
    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yanke...#ixzz1UvDnAEdc



    Really, Cash? All emotion and not factual?

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    Re: Brian Cashman Performance Thread 2.0

    Lee's contract with Phillies is heavily back-loaded, in terms of present value it's lower than Yankees on AAV.

    Never mind the fewer years and a team friendly option.

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