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    JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Tuesday 10/20/09 - JDPNYY's Question of the Day





    Who are the best New York Yankee Starting Pitchers of all time?

    Please choose 5, ranking them 1-5
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    1) Whitey Ford
    2) Lefty Gomez
    3) Mike Mussina
    4) Ron Guidry
    5) Red Ruffing
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Vernon Louis Gomez
    Edward Charles Ford
    William Roger Clemens
    Charles Herbert Ruffing
    Ronald Ames Guidry
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by jlw1980
    Vernon Louis Gomez
    Edward Charles Ford
    William Roger Clemens
    Charles Herbert Ruffing
    Ronald Ames Guidry
    I agree with this list.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    I'm going with:

    1. Whitey Ford
    2. Red Ruffing
    3. Lefty Gomez
    4. Jack Chesbro
    5. Andy Pettitte

    (Pettitte makes it basically because of number of wins)



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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    allie reynolds - 2 no hitters
    don larsen - WS no hitter
    david cone - no hitter
    david wells - no hitter
    dwight gooden - no hitter
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    1. Whitey Ford
    2. Red Ruffing
    3. Lefty Gomez
    4. Ron Guidry
    5. Mel Stottlemyer

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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by xxltaco
    allie reynolds - 2 no hitters
    don larsen - WS no hitter
    david cone - no hitter
    david wells - no hitter
    dwight gooden - no hitter
    Abbot threw a no hitter with no hand.. and he doesn't get onto your list?
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by TinoFan84
    I'm going with:

    1. Whitey Ford
    2. Red Ruffing
    3. Lefty Gomez
    4. Jack Chesbro
    5. Andy Pettitte

    (Pettitte makes it basically because of number of wins)
    I don't know about Chesbro. I'll have to ask muggs how good he really was.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by xxltaco
    allie reynolds - 2 no hitters
    don larsen - WS no hitter
    david cone - no hitter
    david wells - no hitter
    dwight gooden - no hitter
    If we're going by Yanks who threw no-hitters, Gooden and Larsen over Rags? Seriously?

    Can't really rank, but I suppose it would be some permutation of

    Whitey Ford
    Lefty Gomez
    Waite Hoyt
    Herb Pennock
    Red Ruffing

    Five guys, all HOFers who spent a significant part of their career (if not all of it) in Pinstripes. The guys you've never seen pitch always seem to be better, somehow.

    I kinda scratch my head how Chesbro made the Hall, though. He didn't win 200 games, and his ERA of 2.68 seems only above average for the Deadball Era, not phenomenal. Pretty sure that 41-win season was somewhat of a fluke.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by penguin4
    If we're going by Yanks who threw no-hitters, Gooden and Larsen over Rags? Seriously?

    Can't really rank, but I suppose it would be some permutation of

    Whitey Ford
    Lefty Gomez
    Waite Hoyt
    Herb Pennock
    Red Ruffing

    Five guys, all HOFers who spent a significant part of their career (if not all of it) in Pinstripes. The guys you've never seen pitch always seem to be better, somehow.

    I kinda scratch my head how Chesbro made the Hall, though. He didn't win 200 games, and his ERA of 2.68 seems only above average for the Deadball Era, not phenomenal. Pretty sure that 41-win season was somewhat of a fluke.
    Great, not ranked. More flies in the ointment.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    1. Ford
    2. Rufffing
    3. Gomez
    4. Guidry
    5. Pettitte

    And a nod to Spud Chandler
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by Maynerd
    1. Whitey Ford
    2. Red Ruffing
    3. Lefty Gomez
    4. Ron Guidry
    5. Mel Stottlemyer
    That sounds good to me. I'll go with your picks Maynerd
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    I'll have my answer at the customary time, but I will say now that with every Yankee Pitcher of all time available to me, there's only one guy I'd put on the mound in a Game 7 -

    Whitey Ford.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3
    I don't know about Chesbro. I'll have to ask muggs how good he really was.
    I'm giving him lots of credit for 1904 when he started 51 games, completed 48 of them and got 41 wins. But I can see where not everyone would agree with me



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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    1. Whitey Ford
    2. Ron Guidry
    3. Catfish Hunter
    4. Allie Reynolds
    5. Red Ruffing

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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Banner day here today.

    Thanks a lot Girardi.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by TinoFan84
    I'm giving him lots of credit for 1904 when he started 51 games, completed 48 of them and got 41 wins. But I can see where not everyone would agree with me
    He also lost the the pennant to Boston on the last day of the season by throwing a wild pitch.

    Ok, my list:

    1) Ford

    (long drop off)


    2) Gomez
    3) Ruffing
    4) Reynolds
    5) Guidry

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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY
    Great, not ranked. More flies in the ointment.
    OK, rank them as such.

    1. Ford
    2. Gomez
    3. Hoyt
    4. Pennock
    5. Ruffing
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by penguin4
    OK, rank them as such.

    1. Ford
    2. Gomez
    3. Hoyt
    4. Pennock
    5. Ruffing
    Much obliged.
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    Re: JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY
    Banner day here today.

    Thanks a lot Girardi.
    I think the primary problem is that there haven't been a huge amount of great Yankee pitchers to choose from. Even if you include Clemens as a probabl HOFer, you're only looking at 7 guys - the vast majority of whom played over 50 years ago. Folks just didn't see them pitch, and when you hear about the days of 'ole, you hear about.. Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Berra...

    IMO, Whitey Ford was the best pitcher this franchise has ever seen based on stats. But I couldn't tell you a thing about the man or his career other than the fact that the guy from the breakfast club played him in *61. I'm not a baseball historian, and most of the old timers i focused on, and i think most people do, are the hitters.
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    JDPNYY's Question of the day - Tuesday 10/20/09

    My answer:

    1) Ford
    2) Gomez
    3) Ruffing
    4) Guidry
    5) Reynolds

    This concludes today's Question.
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