+ Reply to Thread
Page 91 of 688 FirstFirst ... 41 81 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 101 141 191 591 ... LastLast
Results 2,251 to 2,275 of 17176
  1. #2251
    go **** yourselves umps AcidLake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    2006 all over again

  2. #2252
    Released Outright teknetic's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    NJ

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    ERA inching towards 5

  3. #2253
    NYYF Legend

    -tz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    NYC

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    How come the Red Sox get to play the Brewers when we have to play the Mets?

  4. #2254
    NYYF Legend

    -tz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    NYC

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    So Boston won, Tampa Bay and Baltimore lost. Toronto's leading in their game, 6-4 in the eighth. Pending the outcome of that one, the Yankees will be either a half-game or a game-and-a-half out of fourth place when tonight's game begins.

    EDIT: The answer is, a game and a half out. After tonight's game, either two full games out or one full game out. Of fourth place.

  5. #2255

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by -tz
    How come the Red Sox get to play the Brewers when we have to play the Mets?
    Wow. The Mets and Brewers were exactly one game apart in wins at the start of these weekend series. They each finished second last year 5 games apart in wins.
    They are pretty equivalent teams.

    The Yankees get Pittsburgh and last-place San Diego this year.

  6. #2256
    NYYF Legend

    -tz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    NYC

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    OK, so I'll stop complaining.

  7. #2257

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Boston has a better offense than the Yankees right now. That's the only reason that they are ahead in the standings.
    TRUCK FUMP

  8. #2258

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich
    Boston has a better offense than the Yankees right now. That's the only reason that they are ahead in the standings.
    They are also pitching better. Going into today they had an ERA+ of 103 as a team compared to that of 93 from New York.

    There are a lot of reasons to suspect that New York will see improvements in there staff over the course of the season. Also there's reason to believe Matsuzaka and Lester will regress a lot, however Beckett will likely pitch much better. Additionally, Buchholz looks as if he's gotten very unlucky thus far and may pitch better once he's back from the DL.

    But yeah, just thinking their offense is better is silly. What would you rather have right now, a rotation of Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, Lester, Buchholz and perhaps Colon or a rotation of Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Kennedy/ Igawa and Hughes/ Rasner?

    Wakefield would be the second or third best starter on NY right now.

  9. #2259

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Neill's 3b + E
    They are also pitching better. Going into today they had an ERA+ of 103 as a team compared to that of 93 from New York.

    There are a lot of reasons to suspect that New York will see improvements in there staff over the course of the season. Also there's reason to believe Matsuzaka and Lester will regress a lot, however Beckett will likely pitch much better. Additionally, Buchholz looks as if he's gotten very unlucky thus far and may pitch better once he's back from the DL.

    But yeah, just thinking their offense is better is silly. What would you rather have right now, a rotation of Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, Lester, Buchholz and perhaps Colon or a rotation of Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Kennedy/ Igawa and Hughes/ Rasner?

    Wakefield would be the second or third best starter on NY right now.
    It's tough to pitch when you know that you're not going to get any run support, and that if you let up >2 runs, you're probably going to get a loss.

    That's why I discount the disparity in ERA+.

    Cash's plan was for the offense to provide a safety net for the pitching, particularly the younger pitchers. A-Rod and Posada's injuries, and the inability of the other hitters to even pick up even a little of the slack has relegated that plan to the scrap heap.

    btw, Your demeaning adjectives are kind of comical. Keep it up.
    TRUCK FUMP

  10. #2260

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Looking at ERA vs FIP:

    Going into today
    Player ERA FIP

    1: Beckett 4.21 3.08
    1: Wang 2.90 2.95

    2: Matsuzaka 2.15 4.14
    2: Pettitte 4.42 4.11

    3:Wakefield 4.33 5.33 (though FIP is useless for kballers)
    3: Mussina 4.35 4.48

    4: Lester 3.95 4.73
    4: Kennedy 8.48 5.37

    5: Buchholz 5.53 3.30
    5: Hughes 9.00 4.90

    We have to pretty much discount Wakefield as knuckleballers for what ever reason don't work well with FIP. As you can see, New York has been somewhat unlucky, while Boston has been very lucky in regards to Lester and Matsuzaka. That said, again... Buchholz and Beckett going into today really should have much better numbers.

    They also seem to have a better Pen than NY right now. I'd suspect Aardsma and Lopez to regress and Delcarmen to improve as the season wears on though.

  11. #2261

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Are the numerous smileys in that post a cry for help?

    Edit: Better

    Again, context is everything in life. The Sox pitchers' approach would be dramatically altered if they had to pitch with the Yankees' pathetic offense. Stats are great as a general rule, but every rule has exceptions. To overlook that is to miss the forest for the trees.
    TRUCK FUMP

  12. #2262

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich
    It's tough to pitch when you know that you're not going to get any run support, and that if you let up >2 runs, you're probably going to get a loss.

    That's why I discount the disparity in ERA+.

    Cash's plan was for the offense to provide a safety net for the pitching, particularly the younger pitchers. A-Rod and Posada's injuries, and the inability of the other hitters to even pick up even a little of the slack has relegated that plan to the scrap heap.

    btw, Your demeaning adjectives are kind of comical. Keep it up.
    The offense will hit better. It's just too talented not to. That said, it may not be the 1000 run machine a lot of people suspected going into this season. Posada was of course due to regress (though of course, no one could have predicted that his throwing arm would fall off), A-Rod as good as he is wasn't likely to hit like he did last season and Jeter and the rest of the cast is a bit older. Cano should be better as he's been unlucky for most of the year.

    Your remarks about pitching however, don't really ring that true. The pitching thus far has been pathetic, not just bad. Furthermore, I have never heard of a single study that would suggest that pitchers pitch worse when they know there offense isn't that good (and also, I suspect most of those in the Yankee Club house expect them to explode at any minute, these are cocky arrogant professional athletes, not children).

  13. #2263
    NYYF Legend

    In Mo I Trust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Somerville, MA

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Neill's 3b + E
    The pitching thus far has been pathetic, not just bad.
    The pitching has been fine outside of Kennedy and Hughes. Granted, that's 2/5 of the rotation. The bullpen has been very good (one of the few bright spots so far), the first 3 starters have been fine but the 4 and 5 spots have just been brutal.

  14. #2264

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Neill's 3b + E
    The offense will hit better. It's just too talented not to. That said, it may not be the 1000 run machine a lot of people suspected going into this season. Posada was of course due to regress (though of course, no one could have predicted that his throwing arm would fall off), A-Rod as good as he is wasn't likely to hit like he did last season and Jeter and the rest of the cast is a bit older. Cano should be better as he's been unlucky for most of the year.

    Your remarks about pitching however, don't really ring that true. The pitching thus far has been pathetic, not just bad. Furthermore, I have never heard of a single study that would suggest that pitchers pitch worse when they know there offense isn't that good (and also, I suspect most of those in the Yankee Club house expect them to explode at any minute, these are cocky arrogant professional athletes, not children).
    Such a study would have to be performed under the auspices of the APA not the SABR.

    How would you operationalize such a study? Who would form the control group and who would form the experimental group?

    Sometimes one has to walk back from a purely statistical approach and employ common sense, and then reflect on the comments that pitchers make when they don't get any run support for prolonged periods of time, as opposed to when they do. As such, one often hears pitchers who are given an early lead talk about being able to just throw strikes and let their fielders do their job. Contrast that with the comments of pitchers who talk about not being able to make one mistake when they don't get any run support, which can lead to nibbling, overthrowing, and thus poor command.

    That problem might even be exacerbated in the Yankees' situation because expectations often govern perception, and the Yankees' pitchers had a reasonable basis to believe that their offense would not just be good, but dominant, or even historic.

    Case in point, look at Hughes' first start against Toronto on April 3rd in which he gave up only 2 runs in 6 IP, and still got a no decision. Perhaps if he got a win, he would have been more likely to trust his stuff. The same may be true of Kennedy.

    As Yogi Berra recently observed:

    “When the pitchers are young and just starting, they are always a little scared when they face big-league hitters,” he said. ‘”They’re afraid to throw strikes. That’s what I see with Hughes and Kennedy.”
    Now, his comments were made about the effect of the absence of Posada, which would be another confound in any study, but it can also be interpreted to relate to run support, or the lack thereof, as well.

    After all, players are human, subject to self-doubt. So to view this issue purely in the context of stats, that aren't being held constant for the two teams in question, is to risk overlooking a lot of pertinent data.
    TRUCK FUMP

  15. #2265

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    AL East Standings (after 5/18):

    1. Boston
    2. Tampa Bay (1 GB)
    3. Baltimore (2.5 GB)
    4. Toronto (4 GB)
    5. New York (6 GB)

  16. #2266
    NYYF Cy Young


    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    SF Bay Area

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by YanksFan1992
    AL East Standings (after 5/18):

    1. Boston
    2. Tampa Bay (1 GB)
    3. Baltimore (2.5 GB)
    4. Toronto (4 GB)
    5. New York (6 GB)
    Scary situation to be in.

  17. #2267
    NYYF Cy Young

    YanksFanTillDeath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Miami, Fl

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    what is it 3, 4 under 500 ? I lost the count ... 2009 draft First pick here we come..

  18. #2268
    NYYF Legend

    -tz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    NYC

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by YanksFanTillDeath
    what is it 3, 4 under 500 ? I lost the count ... 2009 draft First pick here we come..
    Four under. I lost count too, had to check. They're 20-24.

  19. #2269

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    As bad as they've played, it could be (and should be) a lot worse.

    One small move can turn this team around.
    TRUCK FUMP

  20. #2270
    NYYF Triple Crown

    Vin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    I should protest this game since the score should be 14-2.

    Seriously, Wang looks like a bigger headcase than Perez out there and he was painful to watch. Either way I'm looking forward to better draft picks.

  21. #2271
    Junior Birdman YASS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Up in the air

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    We have witnessed the beginning of a new tradition:

    In the top of the second at Fenway, Manny jogged toward the stands to make a routine catch of a pop fly into shallow left, then continued on a few feet so that he could high five a fan in the front row along the left field line.

    I have a feeling we'll be seeing this a lot from now on.
    Watch this space for a pithy new signature, now under construction!

  22. #2272

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Ok nobody mention that Lester's got a no hitter thus far. We're above that type of stuff at NYYFans.

    I would be deeply disturbed if anyone made mention of his no hitter through five innings on this website. As baseball fans, we understand how rare a no hitter is and wouldn't want to ruin Jon Lester's chances at a no hitter.

  23. #2273

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Neill's 3b + E
    Ok nobody mention that Lester's got a no hitter thus far. We're above that type of stuff at NYYFans.

    I would be deeply disturbed if anyone made mention of his no hitter through five innings on this website. As baseball fans, we understand how rare a no hitter is and wouldn't want to ruin Jon Lester's chances at a no hitter.
    WHAT?!?!?

    a no hitter!?!? John Lester? Throwing a no-hitter. Through 5. Only 12 more outs to go til John Lester completes his NO-HITTER

  24. #2274

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie
    WHAT?!?!?

    a no hitter!?!? John Lester? Throwing a no-hitter. Through 5. Only 12 more outs to go til John Lester completes his NO-HITTER

    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I told you... let's not tempt fate here. No hitters are rare. We don't want to screw with Karma. May this be the last time we here the words Jon Lester and No hitter until he actually records a no hitter, tonight.

  25. #2275
    The Centerfielder MassNYYfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Halfway between Heaven and Hell

    Re: The Official Watching The Scoreboard Thread 2.0

    The way things are going this year the fact that it was even brought up here assures that it will actually happen.
    Metallica. Screaming crowd. Jog to the mound. Game over. - Chad Jennings

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 5 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 5 guests)

     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts