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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosox Guy in Chitown
    Vegas is not a realistic option - its a leverage tool for MLB.
    Why not?

    Despite the gambling element, it seems like a natural fit.
    -- 1.25.06, Steve Buckley, Boston Herald on Theo's return to the Red Sox

    "It took several different statements, on several different pages, to announce that everyone is on the same page."

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    They need to get a deal done. Baseball would be big in FL if there were decent places for these players to play and for the fans to go to.
    Disco Stu:
    Nick Swisher has agreed to a $56 mil, 4 year contract with the Cleveland Indians. Good riddance!!!

    teknetic
    .268/.367/.483 .850 during his four years here. Can we get rid of you instead?

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Workhorse
    Why not?

    Despite the gambling element, it seems like a natural fit.
    Inadequate organic fan base, too much entertainment competition to attract transient fans in a reliable fasion, low value use of capital (why invest $400M in a ballpark in Vegas when you could buy into a casino for less and make lots and lots more?), high construction cost of a stadium (necc. a roof).

    It just doesn't add up at all.

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosox Guy in Chitown
    Inadequate organic fan base, too much entertainment competition to attract transient fans in a reliable fasion, low value use of capital (why invest $400M in a ballpark in Vegas when you could buy into a casino for less and make lots and lots more?), high construction cost of a stadium (necc. a roof).

    It just doesn't add up at all.
    Tickets could be used as perks from the big resorts to supplement the local fan base. You could put a sportsbook INSIDE THE PARK. Tell me that wouldn't drawa TON of fans. Sure there'd be initial backlash but with MLB, its all about money and that would be a cash cow. Las Vegas is dying to upgrade the downtown area - A baseball park would be part of a larger redevelopment plan for that part of the city.

    Fact is that Vegas is still one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country. A creative mind could make baseball work out there.
    -- 1.25.06, Steve Buckley, Boston Herald on Theo's return to the Red Sox

    "It took several different statements, on several different pages, to announce that everyone is on the same page."

  5. #55

    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by mentalgidget
    What about the Dominican Republic?

    Can they economically sustain a franchise permanently?
    Not even close.

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    contraction

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Workhorse
    Tickets could be used as perks from the big resorts to supplement the local fan base. You could put a sportsbook INSIDE THE PARK. Tell me that wouldn't drawa TON of fans. Sure there'd be initial backlash but with MLB, its all about money and that would be a cash cow. Las Vegas is dying to upgrade the downtown area - A baseball park would be part of a larger redevelopment plan for that part of the city.

    Fact is that Vegas is still one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country. A creative mind could make baseball work out there.
    Baseball, given its history, would never put a sportsbook in a casino.

    Yes, Vegas is growing, but its still smaller than Milwaukee and Kansas City - and the demographics are a lot worse (this is a one-industry service town).

    Finally, if you have the capital in Vegas to build a large structure, you're going to get the most return for your $. That's a casino/hotel - not a ballpark.

    The politics (MLB/gambling) isn't there. The demographics/population isn't there. The financing isn't there. It's a fallacy. By way of disclosure: I used to work in stadium and convention center planning and financing. People in the industry know what Vegas is: leverage for MLB to sweeten the public $ pot from other cities.

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    Re: Marlins stadium deal dies

    Quote Originally Posted by chisox
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/s...orts-headlines

    Loria should just move the team to Montreal
    Or, dare I say it, Brooklyn ?

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