Marlins stadium deal dies

[Workhorse]

Vegas is not a realistic option - its a leverage tool for MLB.

Why not?

Despite the gambling element, it seems like a natural fit.

[DontHateOnNumber2]

They need to get a deal done. Baseball would be big in FL if there were decent places for these players to play and for the fans to go to.

[Bosox Guy in Chitown]

Why not?

Despite the gambling element, it seems like a natural fit.

Inadequate organic fan base, too much entertainment competition to attract transient fans in a reliable fasion, low value use of capital (why invest $400M in a ballpark in Vegas when you could buy into a casino for less and make lots and lots more?), high construction cost of a stadium (necc. a roof).

It just doesn't add up at all.

[Workhorse]

Inadequate organic fan base, too much entertainment competition to attract transient fans in a reliable fasion, low value use of capital (why invest $400M in a ballpark in Vegas when you could buy into a casino for less and make lots and lots more?), high construction cost of a stadium (necc. a roof).

It just doesn't add up at all.

Tickets could be used as perks from the big resorts to supplement the local fan base. You could put a sportsbook INSIDE THE PARK. Tell me that wouldn't drawa TON of fans. Sure there'd be initial backlash but with MLB, its all about money and that would be a cash cow. Las Vegas is dying to upgrade the downtown area - A baseball park would be part of a larger redevelopment plan for that part of the city.

Fact is that Vegas is still one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country. A creative mind could make baseball work out there.

[Mr. Mxylsplk]

What about the Dominican Republic?

Can they economically sustain a franchise permanently?

Not even close.

[tdel23]

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[Bosox Guy in Chitown]

Tickets could be used as perks from the big resorts to supplement the local fan base. You could put a sportsbook INSIDE THE PARK. Tell me that wouldn't drawa TON of fans. Sure there'd be initial backlash but with MLB, its all about money and that would be a cash cow. Las Vegas is dying to upgrade the downtown area - A baseball park would be part of a larger redevelopment plan for that part of the city.

Fact is that Vegas is still one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country. A creative mind could make baseball work out there.

Baseball, given its history, would never put a sportsbook in a casino.

Yes, Vegas is growing, but its still smaller than Milwaukee and Kansas City - and the demographics are a lot worse (this is a one-industry service town).

Finally, if you have the capital in Vegas to build a large structure, you're going to get the most return for your $. That's a casino/hotel - not a ballpark.

The politics (MLB/gambling) isn't there. The demographics/population isn't there. The financing isn't there. It's a fallacy. By way of disclosure: I used to work in stadium and convention center planning and financing. People in the industry know what Vegas is: leverage for MLB to sweeten the public $ pot from other cities.

[CardNYY]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/s...orts-headlines

Loria should just move the team to Montreal

Or, dare I say it, Brooklyn ?