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JfromJersey
01-05-06, 06:11 PM
I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan, but I thought Letterman went out of his way to act like an asshole in that interview.

Sam18
01-05-06, 06:13 PM
I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan, but I thought Letterman went out of his way to act like an asshole in that interview.

He did and it was hilarious.

BronxByTheBay
01-05-06, 06:16 PM
They're both idiots. I just don't understand what the point of even having O'Reilly on the show was. Letterman clearly doesn't like him, and he wasn't interested in debating with him OR having fun. So why bother?

NYYBombshell
01-05-06, 06:18 PM
They're both idiots. I just don't understand what the point of even having O'Reilly on the show was. Letterman clearly doesn't like him, and he wasn't interested in debating with him OR having fun. So why bother?



Pssst, Barry.........it's all about ratings.

BronxByTheBay
01-05-06, 06:21 PM
Pssst, Barry.........it's all about ratings.

I get that, but as the segment went on Letterman looked like he would rather have a steel spike shoved through his skull than talk to O'Reilly. I'm sure at this point in Letterman's career he can have on guests of equal or better popularity than Bill O'Reilly.

Tifoso
01-05-06, 06:22 PM
I really can't stand O'Reilly.

NYYBombshell
01-05-06, 06:22 PM
I get that, but as the segment went on Letterman looked like he would rather have a steel spike shoved through his skull than talk to O'Reilly. Sure at this point in Letterman's career he can have on guests of equal or better popularity than Bill O'Reilly.


Maybe he wanted to look sophisticated or up with what's going on in the news by having O'Reilly on instead of some vapid Hollywood celebrity. I actually didn't watch past when they did Late Show Equations, but I kinda wish I had now.

hellonewman
01-05-06, 06:24 PM
They're both idiots.No more calls please, we have a winner.

Sam18
01-05-06, 06:27 PM
I really can't stand O'Reilly.

Why? If you don't mind me asking.

WebsterMulligan
01-05-06, 06:29 PM
Maybe he wanted to look sophisticated or up with what's going on in the news by having O'Reilly on instead of some vapid Hollywood celebrity.

Vapid! Now that's definitely the word of the day. Nice one, Bomby!

I completely agree with BBTB, but I might have used a different term to describe them.

Tifoso
01-05-06, 06:33 PM
Why? If you don't mind me asking.

O'Reilly is what everyone says Rush is (and Rush is not, incidentally): obnoxious, bitter, mean, bragoon (sorry Italian word--no direct translation---think "wealth flaunter"), in it purely for the money, loves to hear himself talk, outshouts his guests. I could be wrong, of course, but that's the way he comes across. (Which, incidentally, is not what Rush is about--well, except the wealth flaunting, maybe--Rush does that in jest supposedly, but I still don't like it).

I could go further, but we'd have to move the thread ;)

rock
01-05-06, 06:35 PM
I missed O'Reilly but Letterman has done this before to Rush Limbaugh and Marilyn Manson. Maybe others that I've missed.

DontHateOnNumber2
01-05-06, 07:26 PM
O'Reilly is a jerk.

Barb51850
01-05-06, 07:46 PM
They're both idiots. I just don't understand what the point of even having O'Reilly on the show was. Letterman clearly doesn't like him, and he wasn't interested in debating with him OR having fun. So why bother?

That's exactly why I didn't bother to watch it. I knew it would just be a waste of time.

English Yankee
01-05-06, 08:21 PM
O' Reilly told a bunch of lies during the show on his manufactured war on Christmas nonsense, stuff that he'd already been informed was rubbish the first time he came out with it on his show. Letterman probably knew this too but didn't call him on it. He did point out that 60% of what he says is crap though. I'd only disagree with the 60% number.


http://mediamatters.org/items/200601040009

BronxByTheBay
01-05-06, 08:36 PM
O' Reilly told a bunch of lies during the show on his manufactured war on Christmas nonsense, stuff that he'd already been informed was rubbish the first time he came out with it on his show. Letterman probably knew this too but didn't call him on it. He did point out that 60% of what he says is crap though. I'd only disagree with the 60% number.


http://mediamatters.org/items/200601040009

I can't stand O'Reilly, but Letterman came across just as bad. Especially with the Cindy Sheehan exchange (Letterman's own audience gave O'Reilly an applause line - you're out of your depth when Bill O'Reilly is generating applause lines from your studio audience.)

English Yankee
01-05-06, 11:32 PM
I can't stand O'Reilly, but Letterman came across just as bad. Especially with the Cindy Sheehan exchange (Letterman's own audience gave O'Reilly an applause line - you're out of your depth when Bill O'Reilly is generating applause lines from your studio audience.)

It's impossible to be out of your depth with O' Reilly.

DiMaggio5CF
01-05-06, 11:45 PM
O'Reilly was right about one thing, though . . . how can Letterman criticize what O'Reilly says when he's never watched O'Reilly's show?

jonnyc39
01-05-06, 11:48 PM
I missed O'Reilly but Letterman has done this before to Rush Limbaugh and Marilyn Manson. Maybe others that I've missed.
What did Letterman say to Manson? I'd be interested to hear it, because he's actually come across as a pretty intelligent guy when I've heard him interviewed.

NYDCYankee
01-05-06, 11:49 PM
I was really disappointed in Dave last night. He seemed really uninformed and ill prepared for the interview. Of course O Reilly is a tool, but Dave wouldn't even say he respected his opinion.

DiMaggio5CF
01-05-06, 11:53 PM
I was really disappointed in Dave last night. He seemed really uninformed and ill prepared for the interview. Of course O Reilly is a tool, but Dave wouldn't even say he respected his opinion.

I feel no need to respect the opinions of others.

The amount of respect that I give to an opinion is directly related to the amount of respect that I have for the person giving the opinion.

That often ruffles feathers, but that's the way I feel.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not all opinions should be respected equally.

jonnyc39
01-06-06, 12:03 AM
I feel no need to respect the opinions of others.

The amount of respect that I give to an opinion is directly related to the amount of respect that I have for the person giving the opinion.

That often ruffles feathers, but that's the way I feel.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not all opinions should be respected equally.
I agree. If I felt that O'Reilly wasn't simply driven by an agenda and a desire to gather attention for himself, I might respect what he has to say. But that isn't the case.

That said, Letterman didn't exactly "own" O'Reilly like some people claim. Letterman was clearly uninformed and went into the interview hoping that simply being anti-O'Reilly would win him over. Not in this viewer's perception.

DiMaggio5CF
01-06-06, 12:06 AM
I agree. If I felt that O'Reilly wasn't simply driven by an agenda and a desire to gather attention for himself, I might respect what he has to say. But that isn't the case.

That said, Letterman didn't exactly "own" O'Reilly like some people claim. Letterman was clearly uninformed and went into the interview hoping that simply being anti-O'Reilly would win him over. Not in this viewer's perception.

I actually do respect O'Reilly and the like for being a conservative voice in liberal-dominated media, which takes balls. But that doesn't mean that I respect his opinion in politics.

I actually do agree with a lot of what he says because I'm also conservative, but I don't feel like I do because of what Bill O'Reilly has to say on the matter.

jonnyc39
01-06-06, 12:13 AM
I actually do respect O'Reilly and the like for being a conservative voice in liberal-dominated media, which takes balls. But that doesn't mean that I respect his opinion in politics.

I actually do agree with a lot of what he says because I'm also conservative, but I don't feel like I do because of what Bill O'Reilly has to say on the matter.
The one thing I think Letterman was right-on about was the whole Christmas thing. O'Reilly and some other members of the conservative media are doing WAY more harm than good by paying so much attention to the FEW communities/groups throughout the country who are trying to take the Christ out of Christmas. IMO he is taking a few examples and using them as a method to preach and gather attention for a problem that isn't as rampant as he claims.

BronxByTheBay
01-06-06, 12:40 AM
It's impossible to be out of your depth with O' Reilly.

He lost his own audience...against Bill O'Reilly. That's all kinds of f*cked up.

NYDCYankee
01-06-06, 02:09 AM
I don't think Letterman lost his audience. It's also not a political show so you have all kinds of people in the audience some of which that will disagree with him politically.

PlsDontTearDownY.S.
01-06-06, 08:35 AM
Of course O Reilly is a tool, but Dave wouldn't even say he respected his opinion.


:clap: :clap: I wouldn't either, considering how full of s*** OReilly is. These fake war on Christmas stories are too much.

Bozidar
01-06-06, 10:04 AM
You can watch the whole segment at www.billoreilly.com
http://www.billoreilly.com/site/preview?pid=3683

I thought it was facinating TV, and I don't think that Letterman ever looked more ignorant (and i'm a huge fan of his).

btw - I think the Christmas thing is blown out of proportion, and that Cindy Sheehan can say whatever she wants, but Dave embarassed himself IMO.

PeteRFNY
01-06-06, 10:14 AM
I did not see the interview, but from the transcripts I've read and clips I have seen, I think Letterman came off looking worse than O'Reilly. As a conservative, I have issues with some of O'Reilly's "conservative-only-when-it's-convenient" ramblings, but I love the way he takes on Hollywood (because no one else will).

Dave's admission that he hadn't seen the show but based what he was saying on what he had "heard and read" shows that he was ill-informed and somewhat ignorant (this doesn't surprise me, as 70% of the political arguements I get into with people are based on things they "heard", "read", or "were told").

Dave - like so many others - was quick to belittle and disrespect an opinion he didn't agree with. Belittling an opinion does not make it wrong, Dave - just different from yours.

Anyone who thinks the "war on Christmas" isn't a big deal hasn't been paying attention. When national chain stores like Kmart, Wal Mart, Target, JC Penney (I could go on and on) ban employees from using "Merry Christmas" as a greeting (this was already starting back in the 80s when I worked at Macy's. Back then they just "frowned" upon it), you have to start to wonder what is going on.

I would tell Dave two things if I saw him in the street: one, just because YOU don't pay attention to something doesn't mean it's not happening, and two, how about TRYING to be funny again?

Petezs

PS - I checked out the spinnerific article at mediamatters.org, and I have a message for the dolts over there: it's not where the non-secular version of Silent Night came from that is important, it's the fact that they sang it in the first place. Nice try, though.

NelsonMuntz
01-06-06, 10:20 AM
Letterman was a bit of a tool but turnabout is fair play. Nice to see O'Reilly get a dose of his own medicine. Happy Holidays Bill.

BronxByTheBay
01-06-06, 10:46 AM
PS - I checked out the spinnerific article at mediamatters.org, and I have a message for the dolts over there: it's not where the non-secular version of Silent Night came from that is important, it's the fact that they sang it in the first place. Nice try, though.

I actually do think the "War on Christmas" as O'Reilly and Gibson have droned on about it is hokum (there IS an attack on religion in this country - saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" isn't part of that). But when I read the media matters piece I was struck by the same thing - how does the background of the guy who wrote it change what O'Reilly was complaining about? Was that version of the song specifically used because it was PC? THAT is what's in question.

SODM
01-06-06, 11:15 AM
The most interesting thing in this whole thread is discovering just how ignorant the people on mediamatters are.

CyYoung4Vazquez
01-06-06, 01:14 PM
I can't wait for Conan to go head to head with Dave

PeteRFNY
01-06-06, 01:35 PM
there IS an attack on religion in this country - saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" isn't part of that

I would agree, except when businesses start ordering thier employees NOT to say "Merry Christmas" as a greeting - EVER - there's something more sinister afoot.


The most interesting thing in this whole thread is discovering just how ignorant the people on mediamatters are.

No kidding.

Bozidar
01-06-06, 02:02 PM
I think that as a business they want to appear to be non-religious. They want "Happy Holidays" to be the message, because it wishes everyone to have a nice "Holy Day" season, regardless of their beliefs.

But you know the hypocrites will have St. Nick in the stores, to draw in the mom's and kids..

BronxByTheBay
01-06-06, 02:05 PM
I would agree, except when businesses start ordering thier employees NOT to say "Merry Christmas" as a greeting - EVER - there's something more sinister afoot.


Look, I agree that people's sensativities are at dumbass-levels. I wish private companies would show a little more sack. But look at it this way: you own a company and both Christmas and Chanukah are coming up - doesn't "Happy Holidays" make more sense?

Now if anyone is ever fired for saying "merry Christmas", sign me up for the class action lawsuit.

Bub
01-06-06, 02:47 PM
I just watched the entire clip. I'm not going to pick sides here, but I thought this show was somewhat similar to the Tonight Show, being the lighter side of life? That debate was far too serious...something you'd see on Meet the Press.