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AJW
11-30-05, 12:43 PM
They opened the show today about how the Yankees are damned if they overpay and they are damned if they stay quiet. You should have heard Mike ranting about it. Russo stated that he had a fair point. They also strongly agreed that Johnny Damon will be a Yankee before the end of the year.

YankeeStripes
11-30-05, 12:49 PM
It wont happen with Damon that quick. Borris will hold onto him for a long time.

If they do sign damon, it will be in late January for about 12 mil/per for 3 years

NewEraYanks2527
11-30-05, 12:49 PM
Idiots, not these comments in paticular but really they are a bunch of idiots.

NewEraYanks2527
11-30-05, 12:52 PM
also they rant and rave how the Yanks should stay away from Farnsworth when the Mad Dog (the national league specialist) would love if he went to the Giants.

jpao89
11-30-05, 01:04 PM
Fatso and Fruitloops are impossible to listen to. Fruitloops hates the Yankees and can't be relied on for objectivity. Fatso is too arrogant to know what he is talking about. I hope they have another fight and kill each other.

Tifoso
11-30-05, 01:07 PM
Fatso and Fruitloops are impossible to listen to. Fruitloops hates the Yankees and can't be relied on for objectivity. Fatso is too arrogant to know what he is talking about. I hope they have another fight and kill each other.

Bill and Hillary have a sports show? :eek:

nnysiny
11-30-05, 01:08 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

jpao89
11-30-05, 01:10 PM
Bill and Hillary have a sports show? :eek:

I believe there is a politics forum under Just Conversation. Just my opinion, but why ruin this thread by offending some people?

DandyAndy46
11-30-05, 01:11 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

That's not a good idea...it's a horrible idea...unlike last year this team has some extra starting pitching, the Yankees should not throw that away just to get a slightly above average center fielder

gdn
11-30-05, 01:14 PM
Thanks for the info. I can't listen to them at work anymore (no reception)...

NewEraYanks2527
11-30-05, 01:15 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson
Thats a HORRIBLE idea, send them Wright and Proctor and call it a day.

Stupid Flanders
11-30-05, 01:15 PM
I believe there is a politics forum under Just Conversation. Just my opinion, but why ruin this thread by offending some people?
I really wish people woould settle down a little and not take everything so seriously.

NewEraYanks2527
11-30-05, 01:17 PM
I really wish people woould settle down a little and not take everything so seriously.
Me too.

jpao89
11-30-05, 01:18 PM
I really wish people woould settle down a little and not take everything so seriously.

I can't settle down, my medication ran out. YAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

JDPNYY
11-30-05, 01:20 PM
I can't settle down, my medication ran out. YAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

...and you went and yelled at the one guy who could get you some more.

Tifoso
11-30-05, 01:21 PM
I believe there is a politics forum under Just Conversation. Just my opinion, but why ruin this thread by offending some people?

It was a joke. If I've offended you (or anyone), I sincerely apologize. :(

Tifoso
11-30-05, 01:23 PM
...and you went and yelled at the one guy who could get you some more.

:lol:

destro
11-30-05, 01:24 PM
Why does this need it's own thread? who really gives two flying feces what these two think, jeez

JeterRodriguezSheff
11-30-05, 01:55 PM
Thats a HORRIBLE idea, send them Wright and Proctor and call it a day.

the thing is the other team has to accept the trade

mhmajp
11-30-05, 01:56 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

Do you think it would take that much to get Wilkerson? And what would the Yankees do for pitching? Rely on no injuries from Pavano, Write, Moose and RJ?

C-BUS CLIPPER
11-30-05, 01:59 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

Is this a joke?

DJ27
11-30-05, 02:07 PM
the thing is the other team has to accept the trade

:D :D :D :D Darn!!

DandyAndy46
11-30-05, 02:18 PM
Fatso and Fruitloops are impossible to listen to. Fruitloops hates the Yankees and can't be relied on for objectivity. Fatso is too arrogant to know what he is talking about. I hope they have another fight and kill each other.

If you don't like them, don't listen
and by the way...they are not reporters so if you are looking for objectivity you are looking in the wrong place...

surge511
11-30-05, 02:24 PM
Bill and Hillary have a sports show? :eek:

HAHAHA I like it :D

HipHipJorge
11-30-05, 02:24 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

One of these two will not be in Tampa for Spring Training, but both seems like a lot for Wilkerson.

Dr. Gonzo
11-30-05, 02:37 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson
this idea stinks

mjdlight
11-30-05, 02:41 PM
In the interest of balance, let me just say Mike and the Mad Dog have always reminded me of a perfect split of the mind of George W. Bush, Mike being the arrogance and Mad Dog being the stupidity. :) Now that prominent leaders in both political parties have been pooped on, let's move on.

Does anyone remember Mad Dog screaming at Cash for playing Cano at 2nd last year, saying "championship teams don't do that"? This "analysis" of the CF situation by the Dynamic Twosome will be exposed as twaddle just as that twaddle about Cano was.

Kulish29
11-30-05, 02:41 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

I had that idea about a month ago. Actually, mine was just Chacon + someone else for Wilkerson + another player.

NewEraYanks2527
11-30-05, 02:43 PM
Does anyone remember Mad Dog screaming at Cash for playing Cano at 2nd last year, saying "championship teams don't do that"? This "analysis" of the CF situation by the Dynamic Twosome will be exposed as twaddle just as that twaddle about Cano was. Yea that was around the same time that Mike was screaming at Cash for looking for a centerfielder cause Bernie had it under controld.

Kulish29
11-30-05, 02:44 PM
Thats a HORRIBLE idea, send them Wright and Proctor and call it a day.

If the Yankees were able to pull that trade off, I'd jump into my friends uncleand pool, in my boxers, at night when it's the coldest out here.

AMYanks
11-30-05, 02:51 PM
It's pretty funny how sure Russo is that Damon will be signed... he'll be wrong as usual.

Francesa, on the other hand, would love it if Bernie was back in CF next season.

nyctalopia
11-30-05, 02:57 PM
M&MD is a useless show for baseball. Why does this have its own thread? And why am I bumping it? :D

ppa79
11-30-05, 03:20 PM
I wish someone would call them up and put them in their place. Today they kept on saying that Giles would be a terrible fit on the Yankees.

NelsonMuntz
11-30-05, 03:20 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson
Right target, wrong proposal. Chacon & Small is too much for Wilkerson. Washington is desperate for pitching. They've lost Loaiza, and chances are they're going to lose Armas Jr and possibly Carrasco. I like the idea of offering Wright & Cash, though it's not likely that even Jim Bowden is stupid enough to take Wright off our hands unless. I'd like to believe that we could offer Small and a B level prospect but I'm not sure if that would be enough to get the deal done.

AJW
11-30-05, 03:34 PM
Why does this need it's own thread? who really gives two flying feces what these two think, jeez

Settle down snapperhead.

AJW
11-30-05, 03:35 PM
M&MD is a useless show for baseball. Why does this have its own thread? And why am I bumping it? :D

And who made you King??

NelsonMuntz
11-30-05, 04:01 PM
Settle down snapperhead.
:lol: @ snapperhead. Haven't heard that expression in a long time.

Buzah!
11-30-05, 04:17 PM
Mike and the Mad Dog don't have "thoughts."

Yankees1962
11-30-05, 04:42 PM
Both of them will go nuts when the Farnsworth deal is announced. They think he's not a big game pitcher with a straight fastball. IMO, they might not be far off in that thought. I am not a big Farnsworth fan, but I will hope for the best if he's signed.

JfromJersey
11-30-05, 04:43 PM
People won't admit it, but I'm sure lots of us listen to them. If you accept the fact that they are non objective, and you change stations when they start their boring non sports related shtick, they can be mildly amusing. I actually tolerate Russo a bit more than Francesa, who can really be a pompous ass. Yesterday, they both said bad things about Farnsworth to Brian Cashman, insinuating that it would be a disaster to sign him. Mike also hates the thought of Ichiro in center for the Yankees. Why? Because he just hates Ichiro.

panicfan
11-30-05, 05:07 PM
That's because he would be.

I wish someone would call them up and put them in their place. Today they kept on saying that Giles would be a terrible fit on the Yankees.

Yanks21
11-30-05, 05:36 PM
They opened the show today about how the Yankees are damned if they overpay and they are damned if they stay quiet. You should have heard Mike ranting about it. Russo stated that he had a fair point. They also strongly agreed that Johnny Damon will be a Yankee before the end of the year.

Holy crap, Dumb and Dumber made a good point??? Clearly, the end of the world is upon us... :eek:

JeterRodriguezSheff
11-30-05, 05:40 PM
BTW Chacon and small for Wilkerson is a fair deal. Chacon and Small's value are at their peaks and they will both regress to their career norms(not so much with chacon) and lets remember the other team has to accept the trade. Id love to trade womack and wright for WIlkerson but it is never going to happen. To get something good you have to give up something good. That being said I would only do that deal if we couldnt get Bradley(who we can have for just money once he is non-tendered)

The Q Bomb
11-30-05, 06:40 PM
Fatso and Fruitloops are impossible to listen to. Fruitloops hates the Yankees and can't be relied on for objectivity. Fatso is too arrogant to know what he is talking about. I hope they have another fight and kill each other.
LOL! :lol:

The Q Bomb
11-30-05, 06:43 PM
I really wish people woould settle down a little and not take everything so seriously.
Yes, this forum is getting worse than a 4th grade grammar class! I understand the need for rules - but the rules here are way too many and way too strict - even for a conservative old timer like me!

The Q Bomb
11-30-05, 06:51 PM
People won't admit it, but I'm sure lots of us listen to them. If you accept the fact that they are non objective, and you change stations when they start their boring non sports related shtick, they can be mildly amusing. I actually tolerate Russo a bit more than Francesa, who can really be a pompous ass.
You actually made some salient points there, JfromJ. I used to listen to them all the time and felt the same way - even though Dog is a Yankee hating, irrational dope, I could tolerate him more than the supposed Yankee fan, Francesca, who is as you so aptly stated, "a pompous ass". I've actually boycotted the show since Game 7 of the '04 ALCS - I just couldn't bear the thought of listening to Dog chortling with glee while Francesca played the disinterested know-it-all who wasn't surprised by The Yankees' demise. I do miss some of their antics but I do quite fine without the show. On more than one occasion they were downright rude to Cashman - which is uncalled for as he is a man of class and dignity. One of the worse things I ever heard on the radio was Dog saying he was glad that El Duque hurt his arm in Spring Training of 2000 (I think). I've never liked the guy since then. I do miss the way Dog would poke fun out of himself though. He was brilliant at that.

AMYanks
11-30-05, 07:23 PM
That's because he would be.

Yep. Improving the team sucks.

23and2
11-30-05, 07:41 PM
If you haven't listened to it, head over to WFAN.COM and listen to the Cashman interview with Mike and the Mad Dog on 11/29. There are clues to what Cashman is thinking...

Just a few (all in my opinion based on my interpretation of Cashman):

1) If we get Giles, he'll be our RF and Sheffield would DH.
2) Matsui will not be our CF next year.
3) Wang will not be traded.
4) Chacon/Pavano/Small (one or more) will be traded for needed parts.
5) Chance to re-sign Gordon.
6) Farnsworth possible.
7) No Jeter in CF.
8) Yanks to be busy next week at winter meetings.
9) Things going according to plan.

noneckwilliams
11-30-05, 07:44 PM
If you haven't listened to it, head over to WFAN.COM and listen to the Cashman interview with Mike and the Mad Dog on 11/29. There are clues to what Cashman is thinking...

Just a few (all in my opinion based on my interpretation of Cashman):

1) If we get Giles, he'll be our RF and Sheffield would DH.
2) Matsui will not be our CF next year.
3) Wang will not be traded.
4) Chacon/Pavano/Small (one or more) will be traded for needed parts.
5) Chance to re-sign Gordon.
6) Farnsworth possible.
7) No Jeter in CF.
8) Yanks to be busy next week at winter meetings.
9) Things going according to plan.

I trust Cash a lot and I pray the Tampa people are kept at bay for at least one freaking offseason.

panicfan
11-30-05, 07:53 PM
Adding an old, overpriced corner outfielder in center is not going to improve the team.

Yep. Improving the team sucks.

rightfielder21
11-30-05, 08:00 PM
Adding an old, overpriced corner outfielder in center is not going to improve the team.

Well if you actually take the time to look at the stats, you will see that is not true... Something tells me you think stats are evil though... :)

AMYanks
11-30-05, 08:00 PM
Adding an old, overpriced corner outfielder in center is not going to improve the team.

Giles would not be the CFer here.

panicfan
11-30-05, 08:07 PM
If he won't play cf then we don't need him. His best years are behind him. Could he set up for Mo?

Giles would not be the CFer here.

panicfan
11-30-05, 08:10 PM
If he was say, 30, or 32 I would be all for it. He is 35, he will be 38 at the end of his contract.

Well if you actually take the time to look at the stats, you will see that is not true... Something tells me you think stats are evil though... :)

PittsburghYankeeFan
11-30-05, 08:12 PM
I believe there is a politics forum under Just Conversation. Just my opinion, but why ruin this thread by offending some people?

This is a sports thread that is true. Why not Hilary for bench coach?

AMYanks
11-30-05, 08:20 PM
If he won't play cf then we don't need him. His best years are behind him. Could he set up for Mo?

No problem with adding one of the better hitters in the sport, who would allow us to improve the OF defense by moving Sheff to RF.

But, if the Toronto offer is true, we can pass. He's a great player, but I wouldn't give him 5 years.

panicfan
11-30-05, 08:25 PM
No way do I give him 5 years. If I had to sign him (as imaginary gm) I would not want him for more than 2 years at this point, maybe 1. But I know that will never happen, which is why I don't want him.

No problem with adding one of the better hitters in the sport, who would allow us to improve the OF defense by moving Sheff to RF.

But, if the Toronto offer is true, we can pass. He's a great player, but I wouldn't give him 5 years.

HouseThatRingsBuild
11-30-05, 08:57 PM
I remember a caller brought trading for DeJeus.

AMYanks
11-30-05, 09:03 PM
I remember a caller brought trading for DeJeus.

DeJesus would be good, but I doubt KC would trade him.

jpao89
12-01-05, 09:22 AM
If you don't like them, don't listen
and by the way...they are not reporters so if you are looking for objectivity you are looking in the wrong place...

I don't like them, and I don't listen to Fatso and Fruitloops (anymore). I stopped when Fruitloops went on a weeklong anti-Yankee tirade (when the Yankees traded for Mondesi). Now, if you don't like my criticism of Mike and the Dog, don't read my posts.

jpao89
12-01-05, 09:23 AM
This is a sports thread that is true. Why not Hilary for bench coach?

Now we are talkin sports!!!

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 09:31 AM
I don't like them, and I don't listen to Fatso and Fruitloops (anymore). I stopped when Fruitloops went on a weeklong anti-Yankee tirade (when the Yankees traded for Mondesi). Now, if you don't like my criticism of Mike and the Dog, don't read my posts.


Geez, relax...
All I'm saying is that people get bent out of shape over what they say as if they're supposed love the yankees and everything the yankees do. They don't and that's part of their show. They're entitled to their opinions just like we are.

mjdlight
12-01-05, 09:33 AM
Geez, relax...
All I'm saying is that people get bent out of shape over what they say as if they're supposed love the yankees and everything the yankees do. They don't and that's part of their show. They're entitled to their opinions just like we are.

The lack of objectivity is not the problem. Its when the lack of objectivity gets in the way of intelligent commentary about the team that there's a problem.

TEPLimey
12-01-05, 09:34 AM
Can one of the Mods change the title of this thread to "Ass and the Assdog spew idiocy and unintelligible/asinine crap about the Yankees, although they know nothing outside of tennis and the J-E-T-S."

TEPLimey
12-01-05, 09:35 AM
I don't like them, and I don't listen to Fatso and Fruitloops (anymore). I stopped when Fruitloops went on a weeklong anti-Yankee tirade (when the Yankees traded for Mondesi).

In fairness, I think I went on a weeklong tirade after the Yankees traded for Mondesi.

Pakalolo
12-01-05, 09:56 AM
Fatso and Fruitloops are impossible to listen to. Fruitloops hates the Yankees and can't be relied on for objectivity. Fatso is too arrogant to know what he is talking about. I hope they have another fight and kill each other.



:eek:

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 09:59 AM
I guess I'll be the loner here and say I enjoy listening to them. They are what they are. I think baseball fans in general don't like too many analysts/talk show hosts. I guess I enjoy the show because if nothing else it is entertaining. I don't put too much stock in what they say because well they have their biases just like everyone else and once I accepted that fact I enjoyed the show a lot more. I mean I still watch Baseball Tonight even though I think all of their "analysts" have about as much credibility as a tin can.
As a matter of fact the only Baseball writer I put any stock in is Verducci and he's pretty much the only one.

gdn
12-01-05, 10:00 AM
You're not alone. I like M & MD too.

JDPNYY
12-01-05, 10:16 AM
They're talking sports yeah their going at it as hard as they can, they're Mike and the Mad Dog on the Fan.



Nothing can get by em, go ahead and try them.





What more can one say?

jpao89
12-01-05, 10:33 AM
In fairness, I think I went on a weeklong tirade after the Yankees traded for Mondesi.

Yes, so did I, but Fruitloops was on a weeklong "the Yankees are bad for baseball" tirade, not a "Mondesi is a stupid trade" tirade.

Captain Yankee
12-01-05, 10:34 AM
I don't like them, and I don't listen to Fatso and Fruitloops (anymore). I stopped when Fruitloops went on a weeklong anti-Yankee tirade (when the Yankees traded for Mondesi). Now, if you don't like my criticism of Mike and the Dog, don't read my posts.
The mere mention of the Mondesi trade makes me want to go on at least a 3 day tirade.

gdn
12-01-05, 10:37 AM
Mondesi.... Mondesi.... File not found. Sorry, permanently erased from my memory.

jarboe54
12-01-05, 10:40 AM
Mondesi.... Mondesi.... File not found. Sorry, permanently erased from my memory.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes Yes, ageed!!

jpao89
12-01-05, 10:41 AM
Geez, relax...
All I'm saying is that people get bent out of shape over what they say as if they're supposed love the yankees and everything the yankees do. They don't and that's part of their show. They're entitled to their opinions just like we are.

Oh, I don't get bent out of shape anymore because I don't listen to them. But seriously, Cashman comes on their show and they proceed to lecture HIM on who he should or should not sign. As if!!! As for loving the Yankees, I don't expect commentators to love the Yankees and expect them to express opinions. But you would think that a commentator on the NY airwaves would not express hatred of a local team the way Russo does. Hell, most of WFAN are Met fans, but at least they try to remain objective about the Yankees. Russo is nothing more than a sports radio shock jock. The guy actually sets out to be an arse, which shouldn't be too much of an effort for him.

jpao89
12-01-05, 10:44 AM
The mere mention of the Mondesi trade makes me want to go on at least a 3 day tirade.

Because that trade (which I also block out) was bad for baseball and showed how the Yankees spent too much money and were wiping out the other teams and were just buying championships (as Russo shouted in his whiny lil girl voice for a week straight)? Or would it be because Mondesi, to put it politely, underperformed (or to put it less politiely, he sucked)?

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 10:54 AM
Oh, I don't get bent out of shape anymore because I don't listen to them. But seriously, Cashman comes on their show and they proceed to lecture HIM on who he should or should not sign. As if!!! As for loving the Yankees, I don't expect commentators to love the Yankees and expect them to express opinions. But you would think that a commentator on the NY airwaves would not express hatred of a local team the way Russo does. Hell, most of WFAN are Met fans, but at least they try to remain objective about the Yankees. Russo is nothing more than a sports radio shock jock. The guy actually sets out to be an arse, which shouldn't be too much of an effort for him.

I hear what you're saying and I agree with you to a certain extent. Furthermore I will say that my favorite M&MD moment was when the Giants were eliminated in 2003. That was great...I wish I had a tape of that.
So I do agree with you for the most part, it's Dog more than Mike. However Mike has his moments....(Defending Bernie last year and basically yelling at Cashman)..so I hear you

BRNXBMRS
12-01-05, 10:55 AM
You're not alone. I like M & MD too.

Me to, its funny listening to Maddog carry on about the Yanks, I love it when they get on Bob Uyssler (sp) (Mr. Met). Way to many commercials almost a 1/2 hours worth. I do agree sometimes Maddog can carry the Yankee bashing a bit much, espically on his Saturday morning show, and mike is a pompous ass.

TEPLimey
12-01-05, 11:03 AM
Because that trade (which I also block out) was bad for baseball and showed how the Yankees spent too much money and were wiping out the other teams and were just buying championships (as Russo shouted in his whiny lil girl voice for a week straight)? Or would it be because Mondesi, to put it politely, underperformed (or to put it less politiely, he sucked)?

I went on a week long tirade because the Yankees are "bad for baseball" when they take on albatross contracts that other teams stupidly give their players (thus driving up the market), notwithstanding the fact that taking on these contracts gives those organizations some financial flexibility so they can field a decent team. /end sarcasm

Kulish29
12-01-05, 11:58 AM
They're talking sports yeah their going at it as hard as they can, they're Mike and the Mad Dog on the Fan.



Nothing can get by em, go ahead and try them.





What more can one say?

You try getting a donut past Francesa. I bet it's not that easy.

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 12:10 PM
You try getting a donut past Francesa. I bet it's not that easy.

Someone needs to tell Mike that just because he drinks Diet Coke doesn't make it ok to drink 15 of them a day...

Yankees1962
12-01-05, 12:39 PM
I went on a week long tirade because the Yankees are "bad for baseball" when they take on albatross contracts that other teams stupidly give their players (thus driving up the market), notwithstanding the fact that taking on these contracts gives those organizations some financial flexibility so they can field a decent team. /end sarcasm
Both of them actually defended the Yankees, yesterday. They said the media and fans can't criticize the Yankees for signing players to expensive contracts and then turn around and criticize them again for being cautious and not signing any expensive contracts.

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 01:17 PM
Both of them actually defended the Yankees, yesterday. They said the media and fans can't criticize the Yankees for signing players to expensive contracts and then turn around and criticize them again for being cautious and not signing any expensive contracts.

Which is absolutely true...Lupica is one of the worst on this....he bashes and bashes them when they hand out a big contract and then the next day he's whining cause they won't shell out the whole farm for Johnny Damon...it makes no sense

sharoncass
12-01-05, 01:19 PM
Both of them actually defended the Yankees, yesterday. They said the media and fans can't criticize the Yankees for signing players to expensive contracts and then turn around and criticize them again for being cautious and not signing any expensive contracts.

I almost fainted at Russo defending the Yankees. It was funny how Mets fans were calling up and trying to defend all the spneding that Omar is doing by saying the payroll will still be the same. Russo and Francessa pointed out that the Mets had already spent $255 million on four players. :eek:

sharoncass
12-01-05, 01:21 PM
Someone needs to tell Mike that just because he drinks Diet Coke doesn't make it ok to drink 15 of them a day...


He's drinking Diet Coke after probably eating 3 pizzas.

sharoncass
12-01-05, 01:29 PM
I lost a lot of respect for Francessa when Parcells became the Jets head coach. Francessa used to rip the Jets and Mr. Hess constantly on the air. When Parcells became the head coach, Francessa called up Hess and apologized for all the negative things he had said and spent a whole program going on and on about what a great man Hess was and what a great organization the Jets are. Now he does the same thing with Dallas. He's a NY Giants fan, and criticizes them all the time, but roots for any team that Parcells is coaching. He's a phony.

DandyAndy46
12-01-05, 01:34 PM
I lost a lot of respect for Francessa when Parcells became the Jets head coach. Francessa used to rip the Jets and Mr. Hess constantly on the air. When Parcells became the head coach, Francessa called up Hess and apologized for all the negative things he had said and spent a whole program going on and on about what a great man Hess was and what a great organization the Jets are. Now he does the same thing with Dallas. He's a NY Giants fan, and criticizes them all the time, but roots for any team that Parcells is coaching. He's a phony.


At least he's honest about the fact that the only reason he roots for Dallas is because of Parcells

BRNXBMRS
12-01-05, 02:03 PM
Which is absolutely true...Lupica is one of the worst on this....he bashes and bashes them when they hand out a big contract and then the next day he's whining cause they won't shell out the whole farm for Johnny Damon...it makes no sense

Glad I am not the only one to notice this.

Yankees1962
12-01-05, 02:53 PM
I almost fainted at Russo defending the Yankees. It was funny how Mets fans were calling up and trying to defend all the spneding that Omar is doing by saying the payroll will still be the same. Russo and Francessa pointed out that the Mets had already spent $255 million on four players. :eek:
When the Yankees announce the Farnsworth signing, both of them, will kill the Yankees because they think so little about Farnsworth.

hellonewman
12-01-05, 03:48 PM
Russo is nothing more than a sports radio shock jock. The guy actually sets out to be an arse, which shouldn't be too much of an effort for him.Nail. On. Head.


Yea that was around the same time that Mike was screaming at Cash for looking for a centerfielder cause Bernie had it under controld.Yes. Of course, if you corner The Enormous One now, he'll swear he was telling the Yankees to unload Bernie 3 years ago. He's the biggest pathological liar since that old Jon Lovitz character on SNL.


I wish someone would call them up and put them in their place.Impossible. They will tolerate no dissent. Begin to point out one of their many idiocies, and the formula is scream, scream, drown out, scream, scream, drown out, hang up. Logic never has a chance.


People won't admit it, but I'm sure lots of us listen to them.For the lack of alternatives. ESPN 1050 is a laughable honky-tonk joke of a station that might as well be run by chimpanzees and for some reason REFUSES to put real competition against Jerk and the Dumb Dog. They actually seem to believe New Yorkers want to listen to the likes of Dan Patrick yep, when it's October and the Yankees are gearing up for the playoffs, the sports issues I'm most concerned about are, who's going to win that crucial LSU-Arkansas football game, and, should Phil Mickelson change his shoe endorsement? SHEESH. (Clarification: SHEESH directed at ESPN 1050 management, not at JfromJersey.)

Quangormo
12-06-05, 12:14 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson
Chacon did a good job and I'd hate to see him go, but I might very well do that. It would still leave the Yankees with RJ, Moose, Pavano, Wright, and Wang. Not bad, although they'd have to sign some relievers. Eischen woudl be good.

Wilkerson can also play 1B if Phillips falters.

Then bring Bernie back as a part-time CF/DH. He and Bubba could help keep Phillips from being overused.

Spaceboy88
12-06-05, 12:25 PM
one caller had a decent idea: Chacon and Small for Wilkerson

Worst. Idea. Ever.

Why would they want to dump Chacon, who was brilliant, and extremely cheap?

Kulish29
12-06-05, 12:44 PM
Worst. Idea. Ever.

Why would they want to dump Chacon, who was brilliant, and extremely cheap?

Because he's as much of a question mark as Pavano next year.

He's never pitched 200 innings in his career. His K/BB ratio is scary and his velocity has decreased in the past 2 years.

donniesrecordholdsup
12-06-05, 01:06 PM
. Mike also hates the thought of Ichiro in center for the Yankees. Why? Because he just hates Ichiro.[/QUOTE]
lol. typical fatcessa

donniesrecordholdsup
12-06-05, 01:08 PM
Nail. On. Head.

Yes. Of course, if you corner The Enormous One now, he'll swear he was telling the Yankees to unload Bernie 3 years ago. He's the biggest pathological liar since that old Jon Lovitz character on SNL.

Impossible. They will tolerate no dissent. Begin to point out one of their many idiocies, and the formula is scream, scream, drown out, scream, scream, drown out, hang up. Logic never has a chance.

For the lack of alternatives. ESPN 1050 is a laughable honky-tonk joke of a station that might as well be run by chimpanzees and for some reason REFUSES to put real competition against Jerk and the Dumb Dog. They actually seem to believe New Yorkers want to listen to the likes of Dan Patrick yep, when it's October and the Yankees are gearing up for the playoffs, the sports issues I'm most concerned about are, who's going to win that crucial LSU-Arkansas football game, and, should Phil Mickelson change his shoe endorsement? SHEESH. (Clarification: SHEESH directed at ESPN 1050 management, not at JfromJersey.)
exactly. 1050 sucks. and remember 620 ?? even worse. i dont even like college football talk when it legitimitly is the biggest story. let alone when there are much bigger stories in sports going on but they have to talk about some division 2 game coming up.

PerfectCone
12-06-05, 01:11 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND.....

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY,

HOW ARE YOU TODAY!!!!???

What a f'ing moron.

gdn
12-06-05, 01:17 PM
If you people have so much vitriol for M & MD, why do you listen?

It's freakin' entertainment. They are not journalists. They are fans in front of a microphone. They have opinions, they're biased and they'll tell you that straight up.

Take it lightly....

PerfectCone
12-06-05, 01:22 PM
To be honest, I listened everyday during drivetime. I actually miss them since there is no such thing as sports radio in Texas. I just could never get over Maddog being such a hater when it came to all things New York. Dude, if you hate it here so much, if you hate our teams so much, get the F out!

Spaceboy88
12-06-05, 01:48 PM
Because he's as much of a question mark as Pavano next year.

He's never pitched 200 innings in his career. His K/BB ratio is scary and his velocity has decreased in the past 2 years.

But at least he had a successful 2005 season. That's more than can be said for Pavano.

MisterNovember
12-06-05, 01:53 PM
If you people have so much vitriol for M & MD, why do you listen?

It's freakin' entertainment. They are not journalists. They are fans in front of a microphone. They have opinions, they're biased and they'll tell you that straight up.

Take it lightly....

My thoughts exactly. There's no reason to get into a huge tizzy when you disagree with something they say. Treat M&MD like you would the drunk guy at your local sports bar...be entertained for awhile and then walk away once you start to get annoyed.

Stone Cold
12-06-05, 02:27 PM
Because he's as much of a question mark as Pavano next year.

He's never pitched 200 innings in his career. His K/BB ratio is scary and his velocity has decreased in the past 2 years.


Let's give the guy some credit. He's also never pitched on a winning team before last year and he did pretty well. He was clutch and maybe our best pitcher in the playoffs. That HAS to count for something.

HouseThatRingsBuild
12-06-05, 02:42 PM
If you people have so much vitriol for M & MD, why do you listen?

It's freakin' entertainment. They are not journalists. They are fans in front of a microphone. They have opinions, they're biased and they'll tell you that straight up.

Take it lightly....

Great post :clap: :clap: :clap:

I completely agree

Jasbro
12-06-05, 02:51 PM
Because he's as much of a question mark as Pavano next year.

He's never pitched 200 innings in his career. His K/BB ratio is scary and his velocity has decreased in the past 2 years.

Chacon is a #3 or #4 at best. Nobody reasonably expects 200+ innings from their #3 or #4.

njommer
12-06-05, 04:11 PM
Because he's as much of a question mark as Pavano next year.

He's never pitched 200 innings in his career. His K/BB ratio is scary and his velocity has decreased in the past 2 years.


Pavano may be a question mark but I think he's going to rebound and have a good year. I, unlike may people on this board, am not worried about Chacon next year. Last year he showed how much talent he has (and how horrible Coors field is to pitch in). He also showed how well he can handle the pressures of pitching in NY (just as important).


ERA in Coors field last year (38 innings) - 4.97.
ERA in Yankee Stadium last year (37 innings) - 2.68.

mrbawm
12-06-05, 05:32 PM
It's 37 innings. That's about 6-8 starts. Is that really a large enough sample size to evaluate a pitcher with?

JDPNYY
12-06-05, 05:40 PM
If Mike and the Mad Dog merged shows with the ESPN Radio morning show it would be:

Mike & Mike & Mike & the Mad Dog.

BillBuckner
12-06-05, 06:19 PM
If Mike and the Mad Dog merged shows with the ESPN Radio morning show it would be:

Mike & Mike & Mike & the Mad Dog.
:lol: