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FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 09:10 AM
i think i'ts better to coment draft's picks and post pick's analizes in a new thread, so i began this one.

Thanks.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 10:27 AM
This should be on both mlbradio and mlb directfeed, right?

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 10:35 AM
Draft Show live broadcast: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050606&content_id=1078106&vkey=draft2005&fext=.jsp
There is a radio link to the side as well.

mbn007
06-07-05, 11:29 AM
Was Upton drafted yet?? ;)

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 11:31 AM
It's time BOYS!

Kulish29
06-07-05, 11:44 AM
Alright, enough with the fluff crap START THE FREAKIN DRAFT!

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 11:45 AM
20 mins to go.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 11:49 AM
I don't think the draft itself will start for another 10 to 15 minutes.

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 11:52 AM
there is a Draft Cast at MLB.com. And.. it looks nice.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 11:58 AM
It's about to start...

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 12:00 PM
Does anybody know how much time do they have to select each player in the first round and beyond?

38Special
06-07-05, 12:02 PM
It goes REALLY fast

AustinTXHorn
06-07-05, 12:03 PM
30 seconds in between picks in rounds 1-5 for the first time ever this year.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:04 PM
The hour has arrived! Lets get it started!

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:07 PM
LOL.. the Yankees aren't there yet.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:07 PM
30 secs seems short...

1) Upton

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:07 PM
Justin Upton drafted by the Diamondbacks

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:08 PM
Yankees not at the Draft yet.LOL

No Shock, Justin Upton goes #1 overall.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:08 PM
Gordon to KC.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:09 PM
Clement at #3.. hmm.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:10 PM
Clement to Seattle

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:10 PM
Clement. Bit of a surprise.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:10 PM
Clement to Seattle, Zimmerman to Washington.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:10 PM
I wonder what KC will do with Teahan and Butler

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:11 PM
No pitchers yet...

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:12 PM
Romero to Blue Jays

ny
06-07-05, 12:13 PM
No pitchers yet...

romero to the jays

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:13 PM
Seen that coming a mile away by the B-Jays.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:13 PM
Townsend to TB at #8

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:14 PM
Maybin is falling...

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:14 PM
I wish the NFL Draft went this fast

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:14 PM
There goes Pelfrey To Mets!

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:15 PM
Maybin is falling...

To the Tigers

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:15 PM
Maybin went to Detroit at #10

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:16 PM
Jay Bruce just went to Cincinatti at #12

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:16 PM
Yeah the Reds need another Outfielder, Jay Bruce

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
I can't wait until our pick comes up.

Maybin to the Tigers interesting.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
McCutcheon went 11

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
hensen and pewelek are falling too...

38Special
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
................. orioles took snyder

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
WOW! Orioles suprise me. Snyder

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:17 PM
Yankees are coming up!

38Special
06-07-05, 12:18 PM
all the ba projections have been right

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:18 PM
Hansen might make it to us.

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 12:19 PM
Hansen Volstad Henry on the board.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:19 PM
WOW! Orioles suprise me. Snyder


WOW..

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:19 PM
Come on Volstad.. drop one more.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:19 PM
Lance Broadway to White Sox at 15

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
.................. Volstad picked by Marlins.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
Either Henry or Volstad is guaranteed to be there at 17...

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
Take Hansen

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
I Want Hensen!!!!! :)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
Marlins can't take everybody. I think I'm about to be happy.

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
DAM there goes Volstad!!

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
The Yanks will pick Hansen.Watch

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:20 PM
Yankees draft CJ Henry!

Posada_20
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
Here it comes......... Yanks grabbed CJ Henry!!!!

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
Henry or Hansen and i'll be happy.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
Damnn

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
Yankees draft CJ Henry!
Hell yes, that's the guy I wanted.

Rich
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
The Yanks will pick Hansen.Watch

Nope.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:21 PM
I don't want the Red Sox getting Hansen

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:22 PM
dammnn we will really lose our starting SS in next few years.... damn pick :(

38Special
06-07-05, 12:22 PM
Henry!!!

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:22 PM
Henry. Ceiling is high as almost anyone in the draft, says Mayo.

VanHalen5150
06-07-05, 12:22 PM
Surprised that Hansen has dropped this far

yanksphan
06-07-05, 12:22 PM
Seriously...another SS?

Is this a good thing? :dunno:

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:23 PM
They took Henry over Hansen.

Has Baseball America got any pick wrong yet?

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:23 PM
What position do you think Henry will end up playing?

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:23 PM
Pawelek selected by Cubs

BomberBrian
06-07-05, 12:23 PM
Seriously...another SS?

Is this a good thing? :dunno:

henry will be in the outfield.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 12:23 PM
Mark my words, Henry will be an outfielder when he reaches the majors.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
henry will be in the outfield.

Centerfielder of the future?

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
Seriously...another SS?

Is this a good thing? :dunno:

There's no way in hell he's staying at SS, and when you see him you will know why.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
Seriously...another SS?

Is this a good thing? :dunno:
He projects to the outfield.

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
pewelek went to Cubs...

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
Hansen is a hot potatoe

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:24 PM
The Red Sox are gonna get Hansen. I'd put money on it.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:25 PM
Hansen is a hot potatoe
Lets hope he doesn't cool off till pick 63 :)

27IsNext
06-07-05, 12:25 PM
Melky, Battle, Henry.

Man oh man... :)

Great pick, the guy I wanted. Although I would'nt have been upset with Hansen.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:25 PM
PHEW.. they didn't get Hansen. Jacoby Ellsbury

yanksphan
06-07-05, 12:25 PM
Mark my words, Henry will be an outfielder when he reaches the majors.

Centerfielder of the future?

There's no way in hell he's staying at SS, and when you see him you will know why.

He projects to the outfield.

Thanks guys...

This draft tracker thing is pretty sweet.

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:26 PM
PHEW.. they didn't get Hansen. Jacoby Ellsbury

They have another pick really soon

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:26 PM
Melky, Battle, Henry.

Man oh man... :)
Exactly what I was thinking. Heck even if we trade away one we still have great OF prospects.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:26 PM
Bogusevic goes to Astros

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:26 PM
Henry. Ceiling is high as almost anyone in the draft, says Mayo.


The key is reaching that ceiling.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 12:27 PM
All three will be plus defenders too. With our current outfield D, you can't help but feel REALLY good about them.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:27 PM
The key is reaching that ceiling.

Gotta sign him first. ;)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:27 PM
And Hansen goes to the Sox, damn.

VanHalen5150
06-07-05, 12:27 PM
Sox pick Hansen

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 12:27 PM
Red Sox pick Hansen

38Special
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
Hansen to the sawx. No biggie

yanksphan
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
Hansen is the stud closer, right?

Brijd10
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
Not a surprise

BomberBrian
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
sox take hansen.

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
Hansen to SOX.Ireallyhope we know what were doing here!!!

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:28 PM
And Hansen goes to the Sox, damn.

I friggin knew it.

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:29 PM
that was perfect... hensen to red sox... :-po'd-:

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:30 PM
The Sox are loading up. The Yanks better take some risks and get some talent.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 12:30 PM
Let's face it, the Yankees got the guy they wanted which wasn't Hansen.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 12:30 PM
Hansen to SOX.Ireallyhope we know what were doing here!!!

We have a LOT of pitcher in our lower levels--power arms no less. Any one of them can be converted to a closer, or packaged for one, so I'm not too worried.

Nonetheless, with Mo's retirement coming after the 2007 season, it is something we definately need to be ready for.

mbn007
06-07-05, 12:30 PM
Bogusevic goes to Astros

Local kid. Makes sence.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:32 PM
Red Sox pick Hansen

Even though he's a Yankees fan where going to have to rock him senseless now.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:33 PM
Major names who fell?

38Special
06-07-05, 12:33 PM
I'm VERY happy about CJ over Hansen

38Special
06-07-05, 12:34 PM
Major names who fell?

Travis Buck, of, Arizona State U.
Luke Hochevar, rhp, U. of Tennessee
Mark McCormick, rhp, Baylor U.
Chaz Roe, rhp, Lafayette HS, Lexington, Ky.
Jed Lowrie, 2b, Stanford U.
Bryan Morris, rhp, Tullahoma (Tenn.) HS

All were projected in the first 30 by BA yesterday

27IsNext
06-07-05, 12:34 PM
I preferred Henry too, but wouldn't have been upset had we picked Hensen, considering Mo's leaving after '07.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:36 PM
Im for Justin Smoak with our 2nd pick.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:37 PM
I wish we had a sandwich pick.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:38 PM
I preferred Henry too, but wouldn't have been upset had we picked Hensen, considering Mo's leaving after '07.


Ryan is a free agent this winter and Gagne will be a free agent the year MO's contract is up.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 12:39 PM
Ryan is a free agent this winter and Gagne will be a free agent the year MO's contract is up.

Sounds good.

I'm going to cry when Mo retires. :(

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:40 PM
I want Brian Matusz...

The Dynasty
06-07-05, 12:41 PM
Even though he's a Yankees fan where going to have to rock him senseless now.

:cheer:

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 12:43 PM
Whats happenning now? just an intermission?

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:45 PM
Even though he's a Yankees fan where going to have to rock him senseless now.
Well now they have one of ours, and we have one of theirs (Hughes).

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 12:45 PM
Tuesday, 1:23 PM: Yankees Like Henry's Upside
by John Manuel

Although thought to be a tough sign due to his basketball prowess, C.J. Henry now seems likely to sign despite a commitment to play basketball at Kansas where his father played basketball. Obviously raw due to splitting his time with basketball, Henry has fantastic tools and scouts are excited about his makeup. A shortstop in high school, his future might be in the outfield but Henry is stubborn about wanting stay at shortstop.


Im sure the Yankees ironed out any issues with Henry about playing and not playing SS when they had him in Tampa the other day.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 12:49 PM
Henry was picked in the middle of the first round after splitting time w/ basketball. Imagine how high he could've gone if focused full-time on baseball...

Kulish29
06-07-05, 12:53 PM
but Henry is stubborn about wanting stay at shortstop.

I hope that doesnt come back to bite them in the rear.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 12:55 PM
I hope that doesnt come back to bite them in the rear.
They just had Henry in Tampa the other day, I'm sure they're confident that the issue of which position he plays isn't an issue. Plus, once he's sign then switching positions is out of his hands.

jerez23
06-07-05, 12:57 PM
Anybody think Hochevar makes to us in the 2nd rd.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 12:57 PM
Diamondbacks get Torra.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 12:59 PM
The Scott Boras factor is in play

However, there are a number of teams that WILL NOT draft a Boras advisee in this draft, so exactly where college right hand pitchers Luke Hochevar, Mike Pelfrey, and Craig Hansen (the three highest profile Boras advisees) will go, well, is not as clear as their obvious talent might suggest. Expect those players to pay a price for the Weaver/Drew fiasco

http://teamonebaseball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=423091

Hansen slipped to a late 1st and Hochevar is still available

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:00 PM
Henry was a TERRIBLE selection. You don't pass on Luke Hochevar or Craig Hansen for a two sport athlete. They waste millions of dollars on CRAP at the major league level, and don't want to pony up for stud pitching help. What a joke...

Red Sox wind-up with Ellsbury and Hansen? No wonder they're so much further ahead as an organization...

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:01 PM
I hope Hochevar slips to the Yankees in the 2nd. That would be a steal.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 01:01 PM
Henry was a TERRIBLE selection. You don't pass on Luke Hochevar or Craig Hansen for a two sport athlete. They waste millions of dollars on CRAP at the major league level, and don't want to pony up for stud pitching help. What a joke...

Red Sox wind-up with Ellsbury and Hansen? No wonder they're so much further ahead as an organization...
We'll see!

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:03 PM
Henry was a TERRIBLE selection. You don't pass on Luke Hochevar or Craig Hansen for a two sport athlete. They waste millions of dollars on CRAP at the major league level, and don't want to pony up for stud pitching help. What a joke...

Red Sox wind-up with Ellsbury and Hansen? No wonder they're so much further ahead as an organization...

If you haven't noticed, we're LOADED with pitchers in the lower levels.

Henry was a great pick, because he projects to be an OFer, and he already said if he goes in the first round he's playing baseball. Considering the outfield situation, and that other than Cabrera and Battle we don't have any real OF prospects, Henry was perfect.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:03 PM
Henry was a TERRIBLE selection. You don't pass on Luke Hochevar or Craig Hansen for a two sport athlete. They waste millions of dollars on CRAP at the major league level, and don't want to pony up for stud pitching help. What a joke...

Red Sox wind-up with Ellsbury and Hansen? No wonder they're so much further ahead as an organization...
Are you joking?

Look at our outfield, we need outfielders that have plus defense AND plus offense in the system. Our lack of them has come back to bite us in the but. But now we have Cabrera, Battle, Sardinha and Henry in the system. Henry has drawn comparisons to Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, and ARod. He is a superb pick.

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:03 PM
there's Hochevar

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 01:04 PM
Henry was a TERRIBLE selection. You don't pass on Luke Hochevar or Craig Hansen for a two sport athlete. They waste millions of dollars on CRAP at the major league level, and don't want to pony up for stud pitching help. What a joke...

Red Sox wind-up with Ellsbury and Hansen? No wonder they're so much further ahead as an organization...

Why has Luke not been picked yet at pick #37 than and Craig Hansen being picked at #26.. about 15-17 picks later than he was projected?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:04 PM
Damn, I REALLY wish they had a sandwich pick.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:04 PM
That being said, we'd better draft high ceiling or high risk/high reward in the next rounds, otherwise this draft will be a bust.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:04 PM
Dodgers take Hochevar, will they pony up the cash?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:04 PM
Well, forget about Hochevar. Damn.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:05 PM
I'm just happy the Sox couldn't get Hochevar.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 01:06 PM
Why has Luke not been picked yet at pick #37 than and Craig Hansen being picked at #26.. about 15-17 picks later than he was projected?

Scott Boras

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:06 PM
Are you joking?

Look at our outfield, we need outfielders that have plus defense AND plus offense in the system. Our lack of them has come back to bite us in the but. But now we have Cabrera, Battle, Sardinha and Henry in the system. Henry has drawn comparisons to Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, and ARod. He is a superb pick.

Amen. Great post.

ojo
06-07-05, 01:06 PM
why do the sox have 25 picks in the first 50 selections?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:07 PM
I'm just happy the Sox couldn't get Hochevar.

They still have two more picks in this round. :(

TheScooter
06-07-05, 01:07 PM
Dodgers take Hochevar, will they pony up the cash?

Frank McCourt? :mickey:

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 01:07 PM
Scott Boras

Exactly my point.. with Scott Boras as their agent, they aren't good picks at #17.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 01:07 PM
Henry is a 2 sport athlete no more, he'll be a 100% baseball.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:08 PM
McCormick goes to St Louis.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:10 PM
Craig Italiano is still on the board.

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:12 PM
Craig Italiano is still on the board.

Our next pick is 63?

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:13 PM
What's the name of the Cuban defector the Red Sox have been linked with?

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:14 PM
Italiano to the A's

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:14 PM
Craig Italiano is still on the board.
Damnit he just went. His velocity had me drooling.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 01:14 PM
What's the name of the Cuban defector the Red Sox have been linked with?

Italiano taken by Oakland, WEIRD.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:14 PM
No more. Beane's computers told him to pick Italiano.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:15 PM
Henry is a 2 sport athlete no more, he'll be a 100% baseball.

He better be 100% committed to baseball, and he better be able to hit a curveball...

ojo
06-07-05, 01:15 PM
how did it EVER come to be the red sox had 6 draft picks before the yankees 2nd pick?

jesus.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:15 PM
No more. Beane's computers told him to pick Italiano.
I think some scouts hired a hacker to get their way this time :p

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:15 PM
Red Sox have done very well so far. Ellisbury, Hansen, Bowden. Yanks better do well to keep up.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:16 PM
Who do yo guys think the yanks will take with the 2nd pick?

Mark19
06-07-05, 01:17 PM
how did it EVER come to be the red sox had 6 draft picks before the yankees 2nd pick?

jesus.

because the morons that signed Orlando Cabrera, Derek Lowe and Pedro Martinez gave up picks

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:17 PM
Who do yo guys think the yanks will take with the 2nd pick?

Smoak's still there, right? I think they'll take a pitcher after Henry, though.

sir_captain
06-07-05, 01:18 PM
Who do yo guys think the yanks will take with the 2nd pick?

I'd like to see Jeremy Hellickson

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:18 PM
Who do yo guys think the yanks will take with the 2nd pick?
Possibly Texas catcher Taylor Teagarden. Considered the best catcher in the draft. Defensive whiz. bat is a question mark though.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:19 PM
I hope the Yankees are chanting "HIGH CEILING" in there draft room.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:19 PM
He better be 100% committed to baseball, and he better be able to hit a curveball...

He already said if he goes in the first round, he's 100 percent baseball.

I see you conveniently decided not to respond to mine and Fenrir's posts.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:20 PM
I hope the Yankees are chanting "HIGH CEILING" in there draft room.

This draft will be a bust otherwise.

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:20 PM
I forgot about Teagarden. He's certainly fell a long ways. I never really wanted him, though.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:20 PM
You know I think they might draft an actual high school middle infielder. Jeter IS thirty as much as I hate to think about it. PJ Phillips a possibility?

Justin Smoak SHOULD go later, but i'd like him as well.

And then I'm not sure what would be an appropriate round to take Valvaro in.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:21 PM
Ok We're up again.... And its....... James Cox. Pitcher Texas

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 01:21 PM
James Brent Cox..

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:22 PM
Ok We're up again.... And its....... James Cox. Pitcher Texas
He's pretty close to the majors, experience as a closer. Hmmm, I like it.

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:22 PM
James Brent Cox..

Anyone have info on him?

38Special
06-07-05, 01:22 PM
Texas' really good closer. lemme get a scouting report
Makes up for Hansen big time

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:22 PM
Compared to Huston Street. Interesting!

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 01:23 PM
What's the word on him? Any good?

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:23 PM
His numbers compare VERY well with Hansens. This pick does make up for Hansen.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:23 PM
Are you joking?

Look at our outfield, we need outfielders that have plus defense AND plus offense in the system. Our lack of them has come back to bite us in the but. But now we have Cabrera, Battle, Sardinha and Henry in the system. Henry has drawn comparisons to Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, and ARod. He is a superb pick.

There's nothing to joke about. Henry was an awful pick. Henry is a SS that can't play SS, and has to move to the outfield. He is also raw as a piece of meat offensively. If he were Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, or A-Rod, he would've been the number one pick overall. His build reminds scouts of those players. That's that. Hochevar and Hansen are bona fide studs. The type of can't miss pitchers that you don't give up the chance to pick when they fall on your lap. Hochevar is a potential ace for crying out loud...

38Special
06-07-05, 01:24 PM
Cox was the 45th rated prospect by BA. We got him at 65.

ny
06-07-05, 01:24 PM
http://www.texassports.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=18&change_well_id=17&member_id=34

MadCowBellhorn
06-07-05, 01:24 PM
how did it EVER come to be the red sox had 6 draft picks before the yankees 2nd pick?

The Red Sox lost their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks for signing Renteria, Clement and Wells. However, they gained the Dodgers' 1st rounder for Lowe, the Angels' 1st rounder for Cabrera and the Mets' 2nd rounder for Pedro. Because they lost 3 qualified free agents to whom they had offered arbitration, they also got 3 "sandwich" picks between the 1st and 2nd rounds.

Hidekifan57
06-07-05, 01:24 PM
You bet he's good, lol.

38Special
06-07-05, 01:25 PM
7. J. BRENT COX, rhp (National rank: 45)
School: Texas.
Hometown: Bay City, Texas.
B-T: L-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 206. Birthdate: May 13, 1984.
Previously Drafted: Blue Jays 2002 (50).
Scouting Report: Cox is similar to Huston Street, whom he succeeded as the closer for both Team USA and Texas. He's not quite as good as Street, a supplemental first-rounder last June who made Oakland's Opening Day roster this year, but he's close and has put up better numbers in his draft year than Street did. Cox had a 0.96 ERA in 47 innings since a disastrous six-run outing against Stanford in mid-February, a game that taught him a valuable lesson. He can dial his fastball up into the low 90s, but it's far more effective at 88-89 mph because it has more sink and runs in on righthanders. As with Street, a late-breaking power slider is his best pitch. There's some violence to Cox' delivery, but he has been durable and throws strikes with ease. His stuff may be a bit short to be a big league closer, though he might have the moxie to pull it off. The team that selects Cox should get at least a solid set-up man who can move through the minors in a hurry.

ojo
06-07-05, 01:25 PM
Player ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA

44 Cox, J. Brent.... 1.69 7-2 34 0 0 0/5 15 64.0 47 14 12 16 71 4 1 1 229 .205 3 6 0 1 4

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
There's nothing to joke about. Henry was an awful pick. Henry is a SS that can't play SS, and has to move to the outfield. He is also raw as a piece of meat offensively. If he were Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, or A-Rod, he would've been the number one pick overall. His build reminds scouts of those players. That's that. Hochevar and Hansen are bona fide studs. The type of can't miss pitchers that you don't give up the chance to pick when they fall on your lap. Hochevar is a potential ace for crying out loud...
Henry has one of the highest ceilings in the draft, which should make him a first-round pick. He's an exceptional athlete with a tantalizing combination of power and speed. One crosschecker calls him a potential Gary Sheffield and also compares him to Vernon Wells. Henry's swing isn't as pure as Wells' and it will take him time to adjust to professional pitching, but he should take off once he gets acclimated and focuses full-time on baseball. Henry also will have to polish his defensive game. He plays shortstop now but may not have quite enough arm to play there in the majors. That's not a concern, however, because Henry's tools would play well either in center field or at third base.

Not his build, they project him to be those kind of players

FelipePArantes
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
when is the MLB prediction to Cox, 2007-2008?

yanksphan
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
Anyone have info on him?

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DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
Do you think Cox will start at Staten Island, or will the Yankees start him at High-A or even Double-A to bring him up quickly?

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
Hm, I'm pretty happy with Cox.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:27 PM
Damn, there goes PJ Phillips.

jerez23
06-07-05, 01:28 PM
7. J. BRENT COX, rhp (National rank: 45)
School: Texas.
Hometown: Bay City, Texas.
B-T: L-R. Ht.: 6-4. Wt.: 206. Birthdate: May 13, 1984.
Previously Drafted: Blue Jays 2002 (50).
Scouting Report: Cox is similar to Huston Street, whom he succeeded as the closer for both Team USA and Texas. He's not quite as good as Street, a supplemental first-rounder last June who made Oakland's Opening Day roster this year, but he's close and has put up better numbers in his draft year than Street did. Cox had a 0.96 ERA in 47 innings since a disastrous six-run outing against Stanford in mid-February, a game that taught him a valuable lesson. He can dial his fastball up into the low 90s, but it's far more effective at 88-89 mph because it has more sink and runs in on righthanders. As with Street, a late-breaking power slider is his best pitch. There's some violence to Cox' delivery, but he has been durable and throws strikes with ease. His stuff may be a bit short to be a big league closer, though he might have the moxie to pull it off. The team that selects Cox should get at least a solid set-up man who can move through the minors in a hurry.



Questionable Pick

ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 01:28 PM
Anyone have info on him?

His stats are awesome, I was just down in Austin announcing QU baseball's NCAA Regional, we played UT but they held Cox out, he is a very good arm, I like the pick.

Davios
06-07-05, 01:28 PM
His stuff certainly doesn't sound all that great. By the way, how in the hell did the Red Sox end up with Hansen who is supposedly one of the best pitchers in this draft.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:28 PM
Do you think Cox will start at Staten Island, or will the Yankees start him at High-A or even Double-A to bring him up quickly?
I definitely don't think he starts at SI. The 5th year senior closer we just signed from Ball State was assured he'd be the closer at SI.

38Special
06-07-05, 01:28 PM
when is the MLB prediction to Cox, 2007-2008?
Earlier. 2006 id say.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:29 PM
Questionable Pick

I hope he can add velocity.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:31 PM
I think the Braves just took the Cuban defector the Red Sox wanted.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:31 PM
There's nothing to joke about. Henry was an awful pick. Henry is a SS that can't play SS, and has to move to the outfield. He is also raw as a piece of meat offensively. If he were Vernon Wells, Gary Sheffield, or A-Rod, he would've been the number one pick overall. His build reminds scouts of those players. That's that. Hochevar and Hansen are bona fide studs. The type of can't miss pitchers that you don't give up the chance to pick when they fall on your lap. Hochevar is a potential ace for crying out loud...

Two words: Marcos Vechionacci. We have our SS of the future already.

Henry projects into the outfield. We desperately need OF help (have you watched our OFers recently?), and with him, Battle, and Cabrera, we've got it.

Hochevar hasn't been pitching well recently. As already stated, we're LOADED with pitchers. Phil Hughes ring a bell?

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:31 PM
I hope he can add velocity.

Does it say anywhere what the velocity on his slider is?

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:31 PM
Tuesday, 2:28 PM: Yankees Pass On Hansen in First, Find Reliever in Third
by Will Kimmey

Some had linked the Yankees to St. John's closer Craig Hansen in the first round, figuring his polish could help a beleaguered and aging bullpen in short order. They went after prep shortstop C.J. Henry there, but grabbed Texas closer J. Brent Cox in the third round. Cox spent two years as an apprentice to Huston Street, and looks to follow him to the majors quickly.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:32 PM
He already said if he goes in the first round, he's 100 percent baseball.

I see you conveniently decided not to respond to mine and Fenrir's posts.

I responded to Fenrir's post. I have a slow computer...

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:32 PM
Tuesday, 2:28 PM: Yankees Pass On Hansen in First, Find Reliever in Third
by Will Kimmey

Some had linked the Yankees to St. John's closer Craig Hansen in the first round, figuring his polish could help a beleaguered and aging bullpen in short order. They went after prep shortstop C.J. Henry there, but grabbed Texas closer J. Brent Cox in the third round. Cox spent two years as an apprentice to Huston Street, and looks to follow him to the majors quickly.

I thought Cox was in the second round.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:33 PM
Does it say anywhere what the velocity on his slider is?

It said he touches 90 on the FB but works better at 88-89. I'm wary of the pick. We'll see I guess.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 01:34 PM
Cox was a bad pick IMO. Way too safe. Terrible drafting.

yanksphan
06-07-05, 01:34 PM
I thought Cox was in the second round.

Haven't gotten to round 2 yet - We are in the supplemental round.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/draft/drafttracker

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:34 PM
I responded to Fenrir's post. I have a slow computer...

Understandable. 56K? Same here. :(

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:34 PM
Cox was a bad pick IMO. Way too safe. Terrible drafting.

That's what I was thinking. :(

Steph19
06-07-05, 01:34 PM
Anyone know when our next pick is?

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 01:35 PM
If Henry was just a baseball player he'd been gone in the Top 10 picks.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:35 PM
Haven't gotten to round 2 yet - We are in the supplemental round.

Pick #63 was in the supplemental round?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:35 PM
Haven't gotten to round 2 yet - We are in the supplemental round.

No, we're in the 2nd now. Almost on to the supp 2nd.

siddiqi
06-07-05, 01:36 PM
the cox pick makes sense because our bullpen is in shambles this season and next season does not look promising so i like the pick if cox comes does well.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:36 PM
We definately need BP help, so we'll see on Cox. If he can move quickly and be a solid reliever for us, I'll be fine with the pick.

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:36 PM
Alot of interesting players still out there. Teagarden, Matusz, Smoak.

Michaels07
06-07-05, 01:37 PM
Pick #63 was in the supplemental round?

Yanks got J Brent Cox in the third round.

yanksphan
06-07-05, 01:37 PM
No, we're in the 2nd now. Almost on to the supp 2nd.

Whoops...my bad - forgot to refresh the Sportsline page. :D

Posada_20
06-07-05, 01:37 PM
Cox was a bad pick IMO. Way too safe. Terrible drafting.
Cox was not a bad pick. He was labled 45th best prospect by BA. Not bad for pick # 65. I like the pick.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:38 PM
Teagarden is a good defender but doesnt have a great bat, right?

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:38 PM
the cox pick makes sense because our bullpen is in shambles this season and next season does not look promising so i like the pick if cox comes does well.

Exactly what I was thinking. All the good free agent relievers are closers too...would they want to come to NY to set up for Rivera? That's why they drafted this kid. Like I said, if he progresses quickly and becomes a solid reliever, this was a good pick.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:38 PM
Yanks got J Brent Cox in the third round.

You sure about that? Are you counting the Supp. Round as Round 2?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:39 PM
Yanks got J Brent Cox in the third round.

They got him at #63. That's the second round.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:40 PM
Teagarden is a good defender but doesnt have a great bat, right?

Pass. We need HIGH CEILING.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:40 PM
They got him at #63. That's the second round.

That's the way I have it.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:40 PM
MLB.com has a draft tracker that is pretty accurate. Just an FYI.

38Special
06-07-05, 01:41 PM
Teagarden sucks

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:42 PM
MLB.com has a draft tracker that is pretty accurate. Just an FYI.

That's what I'm watching. My comp is sans sound, so I'm just following the MLB draft tracker.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:42 PM
Teagarden sucks
Plus we've already got a great defense catcher in the system, right?

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:42 PM
Teagarden is listed as the 26th best player by BA.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:43 PM
There should be a run of HS pitching coming of the board very soon.

Yankees take Justin Smoak please.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:44 PM
C.J. Henry was good because he's a 5-tool player who projects to be an outfielder. We need good offense and defense from out OF prospects. (Have you watched the Yankees lately?)

J. Brent Cox was good because he's a good closer and our bullpen is in shambles. He projects to move through the minors quickly, and should be able to help us as early as next season sometime.

So far, so good. Now draft HIGH CEILING, please.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:47 PM
Two words: Marcos Vechionacci. We have our SS of the future already.

Henry projects into the outfield. We desperately need OF help (have you watched our OFers recently?), and with him, Battle, and Cabrera, we've got it.

Hochevar hasn't been pitching well recently. As already stated, we're LOADED with pitchers. Phil Hughes ring a bell?


How does Henry help the current outfielder situation? He won't be ready for probably 4 years. Same goes with Battle and Cabrera. So he infuses the Yankees with some potential talent in the outfield. BFD...

Hochevar is an ace. Hansen is can't miss, and will probably convert to a starter once he perfects his knucklecurve. The Yankees are not loaded with pitchers. Right now Garcia and Hughes look good. They also have Ty Clippard. Just because you have a whopping 3 good looking young pitchers doesn't mean that you stop taking pitchers. Frontline starters don't exactly fall on trees...

No matter how you spin it, I won't be persuaded. You should draft the best player available. The Yankees blew a golden opportunity here, bcause Henry was far from the best player available...

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:48 PM
There should be a run of HS pitching coming of the board very soon.

Yankees take Justin Smoak please.
I'm hoping the same thing. Smoak is still there, I hope he doesn't get taken.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:49 PM
That's what I was thinking. :(

I didn't like the pick either, hopefully the Yankees can make it up in the next 3RD's.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:49 PM
There should be a run of HS pitching coming of the board very soon.

Yankees take Justin Smoak please.

Smoak is going to fall due to his "strong commitment" to South Carolina...

TheScooter
06-07-05, 01:50 PM
Sickels had Cox going at #43.Sickels is a big believer in Cox

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 01:50 PM
Fireballer Jason Neighborgall off the boards to Arizona.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:52 PM
How does Henry help the current outfielder situation? He won't be ready for probably 4 years. Same goes with Battle and Cabrera. So he infuses the Yankees with some potential talent in the outfield. BFD...

Hochevar is an ace. Hansen is can't miss, and will probably convert to a starter once he perfects his knucklecurve. The Yankees are not loaded with pitchers. Right now Garcia and Hughes look good. They also have Ty Clippard. Just because you have a whopping 3 good looking young pitchers doesn't mean that you stop taking pitchers. Frontline starters don't exactly fall on trees...

No matter how you spin it, I won't be persuaded. You should draft the best player available. The Yankees blew a golden opportunity here, bcause Henry was far from the best player available...
I disagree about Cabrera. He's lighting AA up right now and will likely hit more than 25 homers in AA at 20 years old. I think he could be ready in 2 years. A to AA is definitely the biggest jump.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 01:52 PM
J. Brent Cox will probably be in the majors by next season. He may even be ready by September. Yet, if you're going to draft a reliever this high, then they should've grabbed Hansen...

TheScooter
06-07-05, 01:52 PM
Whoops...my bad - forgot to refresh the Sportsline page. :D

Try the MLB Draft Caster on mlb.com.No need to refresh :)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:53 PM
I disagree about Cabrera. He's lighting AA up right now and will likely hit more than 25 homers in AA at 20 years old. I think he could be ready in 2 years. A to AA is definitely the biggest jump.
Shut up you, he'll probably hit 20, 25 is a bit much.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:53 PM
Sickels had Cox going at #43.Sickels is a big believer in Cox

Ok i will let the pick slide.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:53 PM
Is anyone else listening to the radio? Why is there so much silence?

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 01:54 PM
Whens the Yankees next pick? #109?

siddiqi
06-07-05, 01:54 PM
relievers are a tricky thing, one day they could be great, and the next tehy are giving up 4 runs. The yankees made the right call be not drafting a reliever very high. now if hansen becomes a starter, then talk to me again.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 01:56 PM
Will Matusz last to the 4th?

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 01:57 PM
There goes a HS arm i really like in Hancock. :mad:

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 01:57 PM
Will Matusz last to the 4th?

Not likely...

27IsNext
06-07-05, 01:58 PM
How does Henry help the current outfielder situation? He won't be ready for probably 4 years. Same goes with Battle and Cabrera. So he infuses the Yankees with some potential talent in the outfield. BFD...

Cabrera will be ready in two years or less. With those three, the future looks promising for our OF, no matter how you look at it.



Hochevar is an ace. Hansen is can't miss, and will probably convert to a starter once he perfects his knucklecurve. The Yankees are not loaded with pitchers. Right now Garcia and Hughes look good. They also have Ty Clippard. Just because you have a whopping 3 good looking young pitchers doesn't mean that you stop taking pitchers. Frontline starters don't exactly fall on trees...

Jeff Marquez, Brent Smith, Abel Gomez, Matt DeSalvo, Sean Henn, Stephen White.

While I agree we need to draft more high ceiling pitchers, Hochevar is not that big a deal (hasn't even been doing well recently). Plus, Hansen will NOT be a starter, and we sort of made up for it with Cox.



No matter how you spin it, I won't be persuaded. You should draft the best player available. The Yankees blew a golden opportunity here, bcause Henry was far from the best player available...

No matter how YOU spin it, we drafted well. Henry was a great choice, for reasons already mentioned. Had he not been a two-sport athlete, he would've been gone in the top 10.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 01:59 PM
What round, if any, does Danks get drafted in?

38Special
06-07-05, 02:01 PM
What round, if any, does Danks get drafted in?
I'm not sure if theres really any chance of his signing so who knows

ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 02:01 PM
Teagarden was injured last week, missed 9 games, came back for the Austin Regional and absolutely tore it up, I think he hit a HR against Quinnipiac, I believe he had at least one more during the 4 games UT played in the regional, Taylor is a very good player, and a huge fan favorite in Austin. If he lasted to our next selection, I really wouldn't mind taking him.


Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%

31 Teagarden, Taylor .345 55-55 194 45 67 21 1 6 31 108 .557 38 6 36 5 .459 4 6 4-4 394 38 5 .989

I bolded AVG HR RBI OBP

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 02:03 PM
High school right-hander Cody Satterwhite is BA's best pitcher still on the board. Any chance the Yankees get him with the next pick?

38Special
06-07-05, 02:03 PM
I don't see those numbers translating wonderfully to AAA and up

Yanks21
06-07-05, 02:03 PM
What round, if any, does Danks get drafted in?

Somebody might take a flyer on him tomorrow. Teams believe that he's going to school...

38Special
06-07-05, 02:05 PM
mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/draft/prospects/cox_james_b_350.wmv?ct1=mlb

plug this into wmp

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 02:05 PM
How does Henry help the current outfielder situation? He won't be ready for probably 4 years. Same goes with Battle and Cabrera. So he infuses the Yankees with some potential talent in the outfield. BFD...

Hochevar is an ace. Hansen is can't miss, and will probably convert to a starter once he perfects his knucklecurve. The Yankees are not loaded with pitchers. Right now Garcia and Hughes look good. They also have Ty Clippard. Just because you have a whopping 3 good looking young pitchers doesn't mean that you stop taking pitchers. Frontline starters don't exactly fall on trees...

No matter how you spin it, I won't be persuaded. You should draft the best player available. The Yankees blew a golden opportunity here, bcause Henry was far from the best player available...

The Yankees have more pitchers than the guys you just mentioned. In addition, Craig Hansen really isn't that big a deal IMO. When you're a team in the Yankees position you should draft high ceiling because otherwise you're not taking advantage of the finances of your club as well as making up for the current inflexibility of your roster. The J. Brent Cox pick, I could have done without, but I love having Henry.