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ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 03:06 PM
There goes Teagarden... a hometown team....

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:06 PM
Teagarden taken at #99 by the Texas Rangers.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:06 PM
Lets go Yanks.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:07 PM
Goodbye Teagarden

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:07 PM
mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/draft/prospects/cox_james_b_350.wmv?ct1=mlb

plug this into wmp
So a 90 fastball and 79-80 slider?

That slider looked SHARP to me

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:08 PM
Cubs already came to turns with Pawelek. Pretty quick for a Boras kid...

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:08 PM
Whens the Yankees next pick?

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:08 PM
Pawelek has already signed.LOL

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:09 PM
So a 90 fastball and 79-80 slider?

That slider looked SHARP to me

How did his fastball look?

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:09 PM
For crying out loud, when is our next pick?

Posada_20
06-07-05, 03:10 PM
Goodbye Teagarden
Too bad. He would have been a steal in the 3rd round.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:10 PM
So a 90 fastball and 79-80 slider?

That slider looked SHARP to me

The slider is his outpitch...

Fastball is usually in the high 80's. Good control...

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:11 PM
How did his fastball look?
It looked pretty good, there's some late movement it looked like (moves inside on righthanders), he threw it from 86-90. Well there was one pitch where he dialed it up to 110 :p

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:11 PM
If you're going to draft a catcher, draft one who projects to have a good bat. Glad he was taken.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:11 PM
Just Smoak

Just Smoak

Just Smoak

Just Smoak

Please......... :D

"O Sullivan to the Angels.(Another high ceiling pick for them.) :eek:

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:11 PM
Smoak and Matusz still around.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:12 PM
For crying out loud, when is our next pick?

109, coming up shortly.

hlrjr
06-07-05, 03:12 PM
Yanks pick again at 109

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:12 PM
Wow Lasorda is annoying.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:12 PM
Well, we're up at 109.

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:14 PM
smoak and matsuz are still there. PICK one of them!

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:15 PM
Brett Gardner?!

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:15 PM
They take Gardener... I have no idea who that is.

Fboston
06-07-05, 03:15 PM
Wtf!!!!

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:15 PM
Brett Gardner - CF - Col. Charleston. What's the word?

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:15 PM
Brett Gardner

Posada_20
06-07-05, 03:16 PM
Pawelek has already signed.LOL
Must have had a pre draft deal done already with Cubs

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:16 PM
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!:mad:

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:16 PM
Brett Gardner from mlb.com:
COMMENT: Medium-large frame, compact body. Well-built. Solid, muscular, well-defined. Works to stay on top of ball. Gap power. Gift of raw speed. Accurate arm. Patrols CF, jumps w/ direct routes. Plus athlete.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:16 PM
Brent Gardner????

Someone hurry up and convince me that he's a good player. :mad: :mad:

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:16 PM
I don't understand it, unless you KNOW he was high on other teams boards, why the hell are you drafting him this high.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:17 PM
Who is Brent Gardner?

ryanm1058123
06-07-05, 03:17 PM
he's 22.. so I'm guessing he's a guy that will be ready within the next 2 years...

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:17 PM
MLB Profile:
Medium-large frame, compact body. Well-built. Solid, muscular, well-defined. Works to stay on top of ball. Gap power. Gift of raw speed. Accurate arm. Patrols CF, jumps w/ direct routes. Plus athlete.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:17 PM
WTF was that?

YankeePride1967
06-07-05, 03:18 PM
with Tampa running our show, my confidence is very low.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:18 PM
he's 22.. so I'm guessing he's a guy that will be ready within the next 2 years...

He better be. There were better players there to take.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:18 PM
Oh boy.

I don't like the direction this draft is taking...

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:18 PM
Named All-SoCon in 2004
Named honorable mention All-American by CollegeBaseballInsider.com
Named 2005 Preseason All-SoCon by Baseball America magazine
Tabbed the SoCon's Best Defensive Outfielder with the Best Outfielder's Arm by Baseball America
Played and started 60 games
Hit .397 with four HR and 51 RBI
Finished third in the SoCon with 94 hits
Led the SoCon with nine triples
Was fourth in the SoCon in stolen bases (22) and total bases (136)
Had a team-best 17-game hitting streak


http://www.cofcsports.com/content/?/sports/base/roster/base_bio_gardner_brett

Steph19
06-07-05, 03:18 PM
2 CFs in 3 picks. Okay.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:19 PM
From Baseball America.

College of Charleston was one of the nation's most explosive offensive clubs, owing chiefly to leadoff man Brett Gardner (9), who should go in the first 10 rounds. Some scouts consider him a true leadoff threat because he has top-of-the-line speed, rating an 80 on the 20-80 scouting scale. Gardner used his speed to rank among the national leaders in hits, batting and stolen bases. Gardner has first-step quickness and is at top speed after one or two steps, and he reminds scouts of Devil Rays prospect Joey Gathright with his explosiveness. He also stays within himself offensively with a flat swing that sprays line drives and hard ground balls; he rarely flies out. His instincts are solid and he has room for improvement defensively and with his bunting.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:19 PM
Gardner is a Juan Pierre/Joey Gathright type of centerfielder. He's ridiculously fast with plus range...

Fboston
06-07-05, 03:19 PM
What a joke of a pick! How Do they pass on smoak ???? This draft is garbage other than henry

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:19 PM
I'm feeling very let down right now. The only pick I truly liked was Henry. The other picks have been just, 'eh'.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:19 PM
.447 avg, .571 slg, .506 obp. 38-43 steals/attempts. K'd 18 times in 273 AB. 994% fielding. 3 assists.

started every game in CF, it appears.

college of charleston won the Souther conference championship.

ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 03:20 PM
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%

6 Brett Gardner.... .447 63-63 273 85 122 18 5 2 48 156 .571 29 6 18 1 .506 2 17 38-43 151 3 1 .994


WOW!! He batted 447 this year.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:20 PM
Gardner is a Juan Pierre/Joey Gathright type of centerfielder. He's ridiculously fast with plus range...
What's his arm and eye like? Does he get on baes or just hit for average? Seems like this was a big reach.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:21 PM
Matusz or Smoak better make it to us at 137 (is that the pick?) or I'm going to be very pissed.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:21 PM
Gardner is a Juan Pierre/Joey Gathright type of centerfielder. He's ridiculously fast with plus range...

If we're lucky, he'll be a good backup.

Ugh. :mad:

siddiqi
06-07-05, 03:21 PM
if gardner can get into the bigs this year it would be a great pick. the odds aren't good, but hey who knows.

Michaels07
06-07-05, 03:21 PM
Who is Brent Gardner?


He`s not Ava Gardner son. ;)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:21 PM
What's his arm and eye like? Does he get on baes or just hit for average? Seems like this was a big reach.
BA named his best defensive outfielder and best outfield arm in his conference.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:22 PM
Oh boy.

I don't like the direction this draft is taking...

Agreed. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I'm doing both.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:22 PM
Some of you guys are too funny!

Steph19
06-07-05, 03:22 PM
http://yankees.scout.com/2/385460.html They got something up about Cox.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:22 PM
Oh boy.

I don't like the direction this draft is taking...

:roflmao: ;)

ojo
06-07-05, 03:22 PM
What's his arm and eye like? Does he get on baes or just hit for average? Seems like this was a big reach.

um .447 avg and a .506 obp.

does that answer question?

the kid makes contact, period.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:23 PM
If the next guy is a college player. I'm typing something VERY angry.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:23 PM
I take it back. He may be a good pick if he can help us in the OF right away.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:24 PM
Some of you guys are too funny!

honestly, some guy gets a chubby for someone named 'smoak' and because NY drafts a kid with a powerful arm, max'd out speed, plays CF, and had an OBP over .500 last year at the collegiate level, we're supposed to feel let down???


LMAO!!!

The Dynasty
06-07-05, 03:25 PM
honestly, some guy gets a chubby for someone named 'smoak' and because NY drafts a kid with a powerful arm, max'd out speed, plays CF, and had an OBP over .500 last year at the collegiate level, we're supposed to feel let down???


LMAO!!!

Tell me about it. :dunno: :roflmao:

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:25 PM
So Gardner will be at Staten Island, right?

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:25 PM
honestly, some guy gets a chubby for someone named 'smoak' and because NY drafts a kid with a powerful arm, max'd out speed, plays CF, and had an OBP over .500 last year at the collegiate level, we're supposed to feel let down???


LMAO!!!
Just because he's a good player doesn't make it good drafting. Even if you think a guy is the next coming of Hank Aaron, if no one else knows about him, you DO NOT take him higher than you need to. The Yankees could have had this guy in the 4th or 5th.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:25 PM
I had no idea who this guy was prior to the stats being posted. I since recended my comments.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:25 PM
BA named his best defensive outfielder and best outfield arm in his conference.
Well that's good at least.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:26 PM
just looking at the kids we've taken so far, this is the one that has me most excited.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:26 PM
Some of you guys are too funny!

You like the pick of Gardner? Considering who was on the board, it's a terrible pick. Big reach IMO.

siddiqi
06-07-05, 03:26 PM
if gardner can help out very soon then i'll feel very good about this pick.

ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 03:26 PM
honestly, some guy gets a chubby for someone named 'smoak' and because NY drafts a kid with a powerful arm, max'd out speed, plays CF, and had an OBP over .500 last year at the collegiate level, we're supposed to feel let down???


LMAO!!!

I agree with you, this kid sounds like a very good player, I like the selection.

I don't really follow the minors too much, so I don't have much to relate it to, but I like any kid that an hit .447 and get on base OVER 50% of the time.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 03:27 PM
I want some starting pitchers! :mad:

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:27 PM
If the next guy is a college player. I'm typing something VERY angry.
Yeah, it's time to start taking some more high ceiling guys.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:27 PM
honestly, some guy gets a chubby for someone named 'smoak' and because NY drafts a kid with a powerful arm, max'd out speed, plays CF, and had an OBP over .500 last year at the collegiate level, we're supposed to feel let down???


LMAO!!!
What's really funny to me is because the Yankees choose a player none of us know anything about except what's written on the net, some of us assume the guy sucks. I know it's in vogue to be a pessimistic Yankee fan, but I refuse to drink the cool aid of dispair.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:27 PM
Just because he's a good player doesn't make it good drafting. Even if you think a guy is the next coming of Hank Aaron, if no one else knows about him, you DO NOT take him higher than you need to. The Yankees could have had this guy in the 4th or 5th.

and you know this because what?

some chowderfool says he projects in the first 10 rounds?

don't you think they're canvasing the room? trading bits of knowledge with other scouts/coordinators in an effort to ascertain when their key 'spects should be taken?

ye of little faith?

they're not sid thryft falling asleep at the winter meetings you know.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:28 PM
What's really funny to me is because the Yankees choose a player none of us know anything about except what's written on the net, some of us assume the guy sucks. I know it's in vogue to be a pessimistic Yankee fan, but I refuse to drink the cool aid of dispair.
It's spelled kool aid.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:29 PM
It's spelled kool aid.

OH YEAH!

:)

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:29 PM
Yeah, it's time to start taking some more high ceiling guys.

Amen.....

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:29 PM
and you know this because what?

some chowderfool says he projects in the first 10 rounds?

don't you think they're canvasing the room? trading bits of knowledge with other scouts/coordinators in an effort to ascertain when their key 'spects should be taken?

ye of little faith?

they're not sid thryft falling asleep at the winter meetings you know.
Despite what you think, the Yankees are not all knowing. All you need to look at is the current team on the field to know there are people that could do a much better job of running this team. (not signing Jaret Wright, not trading away tons of prospects)

Just because the Yankees draft someone doesn't mean they are geniuses who drafted a future all star.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:30 PM
This has been a bizarre draft to say the least...

I'm not sold on the Henry pick, and when I see Hansen lighting it up for the Red Sox, I will cry...

I like J. Brent Cox. I think he will be a solid major league reliever. However, I don't think he has the stuff to be a closer. They should've taken Hansen in round 1, if they wanted a reliever...

Brett Gardner is a lot like Jacoby Ellsbury. I dig the pick. Just not the round. I think they could've had him later...

The Red Sox are kicking serious ass...

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:31 PM
You like the pick of Gardner? Considering who was on the board, it's a terrible pick. Big reach IMO.
Can it possibly be the Yankees know what they're doing and think this player is better than those guys. If you want to take the a trip down pessimistic avenue then go right ahead, but I think the Yankees have more information to work with about drafting which players than any of us on this board.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:32 PM
I really have no idea what direction the Yankees are going in this draft.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:32 PM
Despite what you think, the Yankees are not all knowing. All you need to look at is the current team on the field to know there are people that could do a much better job of running this team. (not signing Jaret Wright, not trading away tons of prospects)

Just because the Yankees draft someone doesn't mean they are geniuses who drafted a future all star.

who said he's the second coming?

what is your qualitative and quantitative analysis that proves the guy YOU'D pick is better than gardner?

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:32 PM
It's spelled kool aid.
Whatever, you get my meaning!

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:33 PM
Henry, good job. The rest...I can't take this.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:33 PM
Whatever, you get my meaning!
Yes, but I felt like being annoying :)

tdel23
06-07-05, 03:33 PM
I don't know how anyone could feel 100% that the guys will be a bust or will be a stud, the MLB draft is the biggest crapshoot of all the major sports drafts.

Mark19
06-07-05, 03:33 PM
was it the last draft that we picked up a group of catchers? anyone know if any of them has made good progress?

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:34 PM
Justin Maxwell to the Nationals. :(

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:34 PM
Can it possibly be the Yankees know what they're doing and think this player is better than those guys. If you want to take the a trip down pessimistic avenue then go right ahead, but I think the Yankees have more information to work with about drafting which players than any of us on this board.

The Yankees first pick was perfect, they took a high ceiling player with loads of potential. They took a reliever at #63 who barley throws 90 and CF at #109 who can run fast an can hit college pitching. Two picks that were way too safe. Forgive me if I'm less than excited.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:34 PM
Just about 20 more picks... hope somebody falls

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:34 PM
Henry, good job. The rest...I can't take this.

Thank you. At least some people agree with me.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:35 PM
The Yankees first pick was perfect, they took a high ceiling player with loads of potential. They took a reliever at #63 who barley throws 90 and CF at #109 who can run fast an can hit college pitching. Two picks that were way too safe. Forgive me if I'm less than excited.
How do you know that Gardner doesn't have a high ceiling?

ojo
06-07-05, 03:35 PM
The Yankees first pick was perfect, they took a high ceiling player with loads of potential. They took a reliever at #63 who barley throws 90 and CF at #109 who can run fast an can hit college pitching. Two picks that were way too safe. Forgive me if I'm less than excited.

who would you have rather they taken?

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:35 PM
Thank you. At least some people agree with me.
You can always leave if you can't take it.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 03:35 PM
ye of little faith?
they're not sid thryft falling asleep at the winter meetings you know.Whatever the hell that means, it still remains that the Yankees haven't drafted well in years. ;) Of course the 2004 has yet to be analyzed, the other drafts have yielded a grand total of nothing for the Yankees. Before someone says Cano and Wang, both were signed internationally. Wang out of Taiwan, Cano out of the dominican. I don't like how they arn't going heavy on high ceiling picks. It's not like we need sure production out of our farm like lower budget clubs, so I can't understand the Cox pick. I haven't looked up Gardner, yet, but C.J. Henry is a good pick (loads of talent, although I would have preferred Pawelek). It just pisses me off that the Yankees don't seem to want to take risks.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:35 PM
How do you know that Gardner doesn't have a high ceiling?

apparently because he's demonstrated he can hit college pitching.

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:36 PM
Can it possibly be the Yankees know what they're doing and think this player is better than those guys. If you want to take the a trip down pessimistic avenue then go right ahead, but I think the Yankees have more information to work with about drafting which players than any of us on this board.

The overall body of evidence would suggest the Yankees do not know what they're doing when it comes to drafting, though they've been much better of late...and this year seems like a step back.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:36 PM
was it the last draft that we picked up a group of catchers? anyone know if any of them has made good progress?
I know our first pick was Poterson (passing on Huston Street) and he has not been good so far.

tdel23
06-07-05, 03:36 PM
has anyone seen any of the players the Yanks picked play a game or just seen stats?

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:36 PM
I don't know how anyone could feel 100% that the guys will be a bust or will be a stud, the MLB draft is the biggest crapshoot of all the major sports drafts.
Amen! You just never know and especially with pitchers who are only one pitch away from tearing up their arm.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:37 PM
Whatever the hell that means, it still remains that the Yankees haven't drafted well in years. Of course the 2004 has yet to be analyzed, the other drafts have yielded a grand total of nothing for the Yankees. Before someone says Cano and Wang, both were signed internationally. Wang out of Taiwan, Cano out of the dominican. I don't like how they arn't going heavy on high cieling picks. It's not like we need sure production out of our farm like lower budget clubs, so I can't understand the Cox pick. I haven't looked up Gardner, yet, but C.J. Henry is a decent pick (although I would have preferred Pawelek).

you can't understand the cox pick? we currently piece together bullpens year in and out based on overpriced FA retreads, and you can't understand the cox pick?

Yankyfan
06-07-05, 03:37 PM
Y21 we think alike brother. The Henry picks scares me because the word raw came up too much just like we heard last year with the Potterson pick and the two sport thing really scares the crap out of me. I would have went with Hanson. Cox is alright but I would have went with Weber and Gardner, I don't mind but I think we could have grabbed him a little further down, he's not mentioned in any of the periodicals as being above a 5th round pick.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:37 PM
who would you have rather they taken?
So in your mind, because the Yankees know everything, they can take anybody and it'll be a good pick. That's the worst logic ever.

I'd have rather them taken a high school arm like Matusz or a high school corner infielder like Smoak.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:38 PM
You can always leave if you can't take it.

I can take it. Never said I couldnt.

YankeePride1967
06-07-05, 03:38 PM
Can it possibly be the Yankees know what they're doing and think this player is better than those guys. If you want to take the a trip down pessimistic avenue then go right ahead, but I think the Yankees have more information to work with about drafting which players than any of us on this board.

Ah, the old, if the Yankees did it, it must be right argument. The last decade contradicts this statement as well.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:39 PM
The overall body of evidence would suggest the Yankees do not know what they're doing when it comes to drafting, though they've been much better of late...and this year seems like a step back.
Man, I don't know if it's a step back or not, we'll find that out in due time. However, I'm pretty sure the Yankees realize this is an important draft and I have to believe that they've trying their best to make the best of it.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:39 PM
Hellickson to Tampa. Another one I wanted. First round talent.

:mad:

Yanks21
06-07-05, 03:39 PM
Jeremy Hellickson is gone... :(

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:39 PM
Ah, the old, if the Yankees did it, it must be right argument. The last decade contradicts this statement as well.
I think there's a very long list, from just this season to boot, of contradictions to that argument.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 03:40 PM
apparently because he's demonstrated he can hit college pitching.

There are about 1800 players in this draft that can do that.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:40 PM
So in your mind, because the Yankees know everything, they can take anybody and it'll be a good pick. That's the worst logic ever.

I'd have rather them taken a high school arm like Matusz or a high school corner infielder like Smoak.

the only shiitty logic here is yours. you've twice implied i think the yankees can do no wrong.

are you daft? i'm NOT saying that! i'm saying it's a little silly to run around all chicken-little saying the sky is falling based on the pick of a guy who plays CF at the collegiate level.

you like smoak, fine. i'll go check his #s.

but christ dude - quit saying i'm a freakin blind yankee homer. read my posts. i find fault in what they do time and again.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:41 PM
There are about 1800 players in this draft that can do that.

which means he's a bad pick then?

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:41 PM
Ah, the old, if the Yankees did it, it must be right argument. The last decade contradicts this statement as well.
I don't know if they're right or not, but you guys who want to think everything they do lately is bad have lost hope and are spreading your pessimism like it's the gospel. As a Yankee fan, I can only hope they do well in this draft.

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:42 PM
was it the last draft that we picked up a group of catchers? anyone know if any of them has made good progress?

Jon Poterson is looking like a great future C, much better than if we had drafted Gio or Rainville :mickey:

Fabien Brandy
06-07-05, 03:42 PM
Seems like there is some rely on Baseball America ranking to tout people they want to draft but then ignore it to rag on the Cox pick.

Tom Gordon and Paul Quantrill (and Steve Karsay) were all type A free agents that cost picks as well as cash, so adding Cox has some logic to it.

(I like the Gardner pick conceptually but would have waited.)

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 03:42 PM
Cox was not a bad pick. He was labled 45th best prospect by BA. Not bad for pick # 65. I like the pick.Labels aren't everything. He doesn't throw hard stuff it appears, and apparantly solidifying a big league closer position would take a lot of "Moxie". I don't think "Moxie" is something that you should be drafting for, I'd prefer tools a lot more. Draft a risky starter, and sign him... I wouldn't have any problem with that. Convert him to a closer if you have to, just don't draft relatively soft tossing closers out of college.

YankeePride1967
06-07-05, 03:42 PM
I don't know if they're right or not, but you guys who want to think everything they do lately is bad have lost hope and are spreading your pessimism like it's the gospel. As a Yankee fan, I can only hope they do well in this draft.

I can only hope is well, doesn't mean that we can't have an opinion to contrary, that's what this forum is here for.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:43 PM
Yanks up in about 10 picks, hoping for the best

ojo
06-07-05, 03:43 PM
Ah, the old, if the Yankees did it, it must be right argument. The last decade contradicts this statement as well.

no, it's more of 'the yankees sure as hell know more than you do, so try and be a little optimistic here ok?' type thing.

38Special
06-07-05, 03:44 PM
Everyone who i expected to complain in this thread, is doing so

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:44 PM
Yanks up in about 10 picks, hoping for the best

Expecting the worst?

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:45 PM
The overall body of evidence would suggest the Yankees do not know what they're doing when it comes to drafting, though they've been much better of late...and this year seems like a step back.


A new person is running this year's draft(Damon O.)

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:45 PM
How do you know that Gardner doesn't have a high ceiling?

Because, we know for a fact he has no power, so he's going to have to do extremely well in AVG/OBP and defense to be a positive contributor, much less a great one.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:45 PM
I can only hope is well, doesn't mean that we can't have an opinion to contrary, that's what this forum is here for.
Which is why I'm going to state my contrary opinion to yours because every Yankee fan doesn't have to dispair like some.

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:47 PM
Man, I don't know if it's a step back or not, we'll find that out in due time. However, I'm pretty sure the Yankees realize this is an important draft and I have to believe that they've trying their best to make the best of it.

I'm sure they've been trying their best for some time now, but the body of work says their best isn't good enough. Then when the farm system begins to come back to life due to the 03 and 04 drafts, that were pretty high risk, they decide to switch back to the conservative method.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:48 PM
There goes Matusz

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:48 PM
Sigh... there goes Matusz the 6'5 lefty with the dynamite curve.

YankeePride1967
06-07-05, 03:48 PM
Which is why I'm going to state my contrary opinion to yours because every Yankee fan doesn't have to dispair like some.

No, but there is also reason for concern as well. Reality does not always equal pessimism.

38Special
06-07-05, 03:49 PM
I'm sure they've been trying their best for some time now, but the body of work says their best isn't good enough. Then when the farm system begins to come back to life due to the 03 and 04 drafts, that were pretty high risk, they decide to switch back to the conservative method.
Henry is far from conservative

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:49 PM
If the Yankees draft Justin Smoak they can do anything they want the rest of the draft.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 03:49 PM
There goes Matsuz, to LAA. :(

Posada_20
06-07-05, 03:49 PM
Why don't you pessimists just turn off your computers and go back to sleep. It's sickening how you dump on every pick they make. How is it you know better than the scouts do about some of these picks. If the guys you wanted are so good, and are still out there. they why haven't any other teams picked them yet either? Must be a reason. lets trust the scouts for once.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:49 PM
If the Yankees draft Justin Smoak they can do anything they want the rest of the draft.
If the Sox take him, I cry into my keyboard for about a round

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:50 PM
Michael Moore? I didn't know that fat bastard could play ball.

Hidekifan57
06-07-05, 03:50 PM
What's wrong with picking up an oustanding defensive outfielder with a great arm and can hit for a high average. I don't care what anyone says, solid pick. I won't try to argue.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:50 PM
Michael Moore? I didn't know that fat bastard could play ball.
Ha. I feel bad that he got that name.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:50 PM
santaluces! that school was in my HS's athletic conference.

Hidekifan57
06-07-05, 03:51 PM
Posada 20, great post. Sit back and let this unfold guys.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:51 PM
Ha. I feel bad that he got that name.

why should i be the one who has to change his name? he's the one who sucks ass!

LOL

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:51 PM
Has Josh Wall been selected?????

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:52 PM
Why don't you pessimists just turn off your computers and go back to sleep. It's sickening how you dump on every pick they make. How is it you know better than the scouts do about some of these picks. If the guys you wanted are so good, and are still out there. they why haven't any other teams picked them yet either? Must be a reason. lets trust the scouts for once.
First, almost everyone loved the Henry pick.

Second, I prefer the most constant pessiment, to a constant optimist who puts a positive spin on EVERYTHING.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:52 PM
No, but there is also reason for concern as well. Reality does not always equal pessimism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, those that disagree with you can't be realistic.

BomberBrian
06-07-05, 03:52 PM
matusz goes 70 picks later then when the folks on this board wanted to take him.

interesting.

Steph19
06-07-05, 03:53 PM
Pendleton of Rice

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:53 PM
Lance Pendleton, two way player at Rice. OF and P.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:53 PM
Lance Pendleton, RHP out of Rice.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 03:53 PM
There goes Matsuz, to LAA. :(

They sure know how to draft.

ojo
06-07-05, 03:53 PM
;) :D yeah this smoak guy is a reaaaal keeper huh?

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:54 PM
lets trust the scouts for once.

The ones that have let us down before?

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:54 PM
Who is Lance Pendleton? Another college guy?

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 03:54 PM
Yankees Select Lance Pendleton.


Pendleton has been an enigma this spring. Scouts projected him as a possible second-round pick after he hit .326 and led Rice with 11 homers as a sophomore, but his average has plummeted 73 points in 2005. He has the tools to hit for average and power, but has run hot and cold all season. There's no one reason scouts or coaches can point to as an explanation. Pendleton is a good athlete with near-average speed and a plus arm, and he should be able to add some more strength to his long, lean frame. Some teams may prefer Pendleton on the mound, where he has shown more consistency as a reliever. He throws a 90-94 mph fastball that's fairly straight, and his breaking ball is a plus pitch when he commands it. Though he won't go as high in the draft as he once figured and Rice players often return for their senior seasons, Pendleton still is considered fairly signable

A little risk... But still another bad pick in my opinion. What is with this reliever fascination? Straight fastball doesn't sound promising. Unless they see him as a hitter, which below average speed in the outfield doesn't sound good either, nor does that huge average drop.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:54 PM
Lance Pendleton
COMMENT: Physically similar to Orel Hersheiser. Loose, quick arm brings low-90s heat that tails into RHH. CB has 12-6 break, tight, quick at the end. Adding circle change to his repetoire. Pitches w/ aggressive demeanor.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 03:55 PM
Why don't you pessimists just turn off your computers and go back to sleep. It's sickening how you dump on every pick they make. How is it you know better than the scouts do about some of these picks. If the guys you wanted are so good, and are still out there. they why haven't any other teams picked them yet either? Must be a reason. lets trust the scouts for once.If we were so submissive, we wouldn't be on this board. We are entitled to our opinions, and we'll state them. What else is a forum for?

sir_captain
06-07-05, 03:56 PM
Sickels seems to like this pick: "lance pendleton to the Yankees, Rice RHP. Good value potentially."

Posada_20
06-07-05, 03:56 PM
If we were so submissive, we wouldn't be on this board. We are entitled to our opinions, and we'll state them. What else is a forum for?

For moaning and crying, evidently

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:57 PM
;) :D yeah this smoak guy is a reaaaal keeper huh?
Obviously if he hasn't gone yet, he must suck.

Good logic again my friend. No good player has ever fallen past the first 4 rounds.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 03:57 PM
They sure know how to draft.

Seriously...

38Special
06-07-05, 03:57 PM
If we were so submissive, we wouldn't be on this board. We are entitled to our opinions, and we'll state them. What else is a forum for?
Because some of us want to hope that these picks work out, and be optimistic. Not just dumping all over it, and assuming that because BA said "this guy" or "that guy" was good, that the Yankees should sign all of them.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 03:57 PM
So will Pendleton go to SI or will his SP/OF status send him to the GCL to figure out how to use him? And which does he project better as, a pitcher or OF?

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:58 PM
no, it's more of 'the yankees sure as hell know more than you do, so try and be a little optimistic here ok?' type thing.

I wouldn't be so sure about trusting that logic.

Steph19
06-07-05, 03:58 PM
Looks like Pendleton's better off as a pitcher.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 03:58 PM
If I had to guess, it looks like the Yankees are probably going to try him as a pitcher.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 03:59 PM
I've heard a tip the Yankees are going to draft John Jingleheiber next round. He hit .158 in 4 years at college and doesn't have the arm to play first base. However since the scouts want him he must be good, I can't wait :) :) :) :) :)

Go Yankees :) :) :) :)

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 03:59 PM
Henry is far from conservative

I was referring to our 2nd and 3rd picks, who I hope by the end of the day are an aberration.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 03:59 PM
Whether or not this is a good pick, I want some goddamn high ceiling players.

jerez23
06-07-05, 04:00 PM
Justin Bristow is still out there right? What about throwing a ton of $$$ to Jordan Danks? If so what round?

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 04:00 PM
Because some of us want to hope that these picks work out, and be optimistic. Not just dumping all over it, and assuming that because BA said "this guy" or "that guy" was good, that the Yankees should sign all of them.It's not the picks themselves, it's the strategy. If you have such a view, that's fine, but it doesn't mean we have to share it.

Yankees1962
06-07-05, 04:00 PM
Whether or not this is a good pick, I want some goddamn high ceiling players.
What's your definition of a high ceiling player?

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 04:01 PM
What's your definition of a high ceiling player?
A player with a high ceiling.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:01 PM
Sickels had Gardner at #140 and Pendleton at #141

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 04:01 PM
Why don't you pessimists just turn off your computers and go back to sleep. It's sickening how you dump on every pick they make. How is it you know better than the scouts do about some of these picks. If the guys you wanted are so good, and are still out there. they why haven't any other teams picked them yet either? Must be a reason. lets trust the scouts for once.

The scouts have been trusted for quite some time and have obviously done a bang up job.

Seriously though, I don't see the issue with voicing opinions.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 04:01 PM
He hit .158 in 4 years at college and doesn't have the arm to play first base. However since the scouts want him he must be good, I can't wait :)No scout would want "someone" that handicapped. By the way, the arm falls into the "scout" category, not the statistics category.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:01 PM
What's your definition of a high ceiling player?
High school players, but then again, I really have no idea. I just heard that this last pick does have a high ceiling, so I guess I was wrong.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:02 PM
Sickels had Gardner at #140 and Pendleton at #141
Looking at your sig, I love the first round strategy the Yanks have taken the past few years. If only it was extending into the later rounds.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:02 PM
There goes Matusz

No worries, we got Brett Gardner.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:03 PM
Sickels on Pendleton

Pendleton has good physical tools but underperformed this year. He is also a possible bargain if he lives up to his potential.

On Gardner

Gardner has plus speed and leadoff potential

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 04:03 PM
What's wrong with picking up an oustanding defensive outfielder with a great arm and can hit for a high average. I don't care what anyone says, solid pick. I won't try to argue.

If he doesn't hit for a high average he's a reserve OF at best because he has no power. I'm not saying he won't be able to continue hitting for a high average, but this is the risk the Yankees are taking and I would have preferred that they went a different route.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:03 PM
No worries, we got Brett Gardner.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I really hope Gardner does well, but that was too funny.

TannerBoyle
06-07-05, 04:04 PM
has anyone seen any of the players the Yanks picked play a game or just seen stats?

I like Henry, Cox, and Gardner.



They all have The Good Face.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:05 PM
Tuesday, 4:02 PM: Yankees Pick Lance Pendleton
by Will Kimmey

Rice's Lance Pendleton struggled at the plate as a junior, batting .263/.387/.463 after a .326/.423/.592 sophomore year. But his low-90s fastball from the left side, 5-3, 2.70 record and 29-15 strikeout-walk ratio in 30 innings prompted the Yankees to select him in the fourth round as a pitcher

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/2005draft/draftdayblog.html

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:06 PM
Nationals select DeLaughter in fifth round-144

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:06 PM
;) :D yeah this smoak guy is a reaaaal keeper huh?

He's falling due to signability issues. Something the Yankees neednt worry about.

38Special
06-07-05, 04:07 PM
stolen from SoSH


BA Top 100 Prospects still on the board at start of round 5:

37. Justin Bristow, HS SS
43. Jordan Danks, HS OF
44. Cody Satterwhite, HS RHP
(61. Anthony Varvaro, Co RHP - hurt)
63. Robert Ray, Co RHP
66. David Adams, HS 3B/SS
69. Vance Worley, HS RH
71. Tim Linecum, Co RH
73. Kyle Russell, HS OF
75. Zach Putnam, HS 3B
76. Austin Jackson, HS OF
78. Miers Quigley, HS LH
79. Seth Johnston, Co 2B/SS
83. Kris Harvey, Co RH
84. Josh Zeid, HS RH
89. Kenny Maicques, JC RH
90. Brett Jacobson, HS RH
92. Michael Kirkman, HS RH
94. Justin Smoak, HS 1B
95. Reese Havens, HS SS
96. Jeremy Bleich, HS LH
98. Clete Thomas, Co OF

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 04:07 PM
Who is Lance Pendleton? Another college guy?


Two-way prospect who plays the OF and pitches. Fastball command is very good, can reach up to 94 with a nasty breaking ball to compliment.

Hidekifan57
06-07-05, 04:07 PM
NJ, I understand your concern and it may be a legitimate case, definitely. But, I spoke to a scout about Gardner and it seems that they really think he is a batting title type leadoff hitter. So I say go for it.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:07 PM
I really hope we take a shot on Varvaro in some round.

BomberBrian
06-07-05, 04:08 PM
High school players, but then again, I really have no idea. I just heard that this last pick does have a high ceiling, so I guess I was wrong.

high ceiling players are not limited to just high school kids.

sir_captain
06-07-05, 04:08 PM
I'd like to draft Pedro Alvarez out of the Bronx with our next pick--I think he'd be an excellent value in the 5th round, and some have called him the best hitter out of NYC since Manny Ramirez.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:08 PM
Come on Pedro Alvarez :)

38Special
06-07-05, 04:09 PM
high ceiling players are not limited to just high school kids.
Nod.

I'm not as disappointed as some here are, I especially like the Cox pick. I think if they take a waiver on one or two of those HS guys, id be ecstatic.

jerez23
06-07-05, 04:09 PM
Come on Pedro Alvarez :)

I like that pick too

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:09 PM
High school players, but then again, I really have no idea. I just heard that this last pick does have a high ceiling, so I guess I was wrong.
Only real reason the last guy was high cieling is because he was a two way player that hasn't yet concentrated on being ONLY a pitcher. But besides situations like that, college players are normally viewed as not high cieling.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:10 PM
How many rounds are there today? 25?

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 04:11 PM
Tuesday, 4:02 PM: Yankees Pick Lance Pendleton
by Will Kimmey

Rice's Lance Pendleton struggled at the plate as a junior, batting .263/.387/.463 after a .326/.423/.592 sophomore year. But his low-90s fastball from the left side, 5-3, 2.70 record and 29-15 strikeout-walk ratio in 30 innings prompted the Yankees to select him in the fourth round as a pitcher

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/2005draft/draftdayblog.html

Are they intimating that a sub 9, slightly, Kper9 and sub 2 K-BB ratio were green lights for the Yankees in drafting him?

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:11 PM
How many rounds are there today? 25?
From BA:

The draft begins at 1 p.m. Eastern on June 7 and will conclude around 6 p.m. Usually, teams draft through about 20 rounds on the first day. The second day will begin at noon on June 8, and is scheduled to end at 6 p.m.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 04:11 PM
John Sickels-Yanks get C.J. Henry. Great athleticism but risky.

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 04:12 PM
high ceiling players are not limited to just high school kids.A high school ceiling is going to be bigger naturally because they haven't had enough time to reach it. College is a more "sure bet", less of a ceiling to reach. Granted, most of the time the ceiling will be lower though.

DiMaggio5CF
06-07-05, 04:12 PM
Mets pick Drew Butera, out of my alma matter.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:14 PM
Some of my Vandy guys are being taken.

NJASDJDH
06-07-05, 04:14 PM
NJ, I understand your concern and it may be a legitimate case, definitely. But, I spoke to a scout about Gardner and it seems that they really think he is a batting title type leadoff hitter. So I say go for it.

I understand, I don't have as much of a problem with the picks themselves as I do with the apparent college emphasis that is going. I really would like to see the Yankees go heavy on HS players so I'm disappointed that they seem to be going to the college route as of now, but nothing has made me flip out like Jon Poterson in '04 did.

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:15 PM
Only real reason the last guy was high cieling is because he was a two way player that hasn't yet concentrated on being ONLY a pitcher. But besides situations like that, college players are normally viewed as not high cieling.
Gotcha.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 04:16 PM
I think I've got it: George ordered quick bullpen and OF help, hence our second and third picks. Now they're gonna revert back to high ceiling. (Hopefully.)

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:16 PM
From BA:

The draft begins at 1 p.m. Eastern on June 7 and will conclude around 6 p.m. Usually, teams draft through about 20 rounds on the first day. The second day will begin at noon on June 8, and is scheduled to end at 6 p.m.

Thanks.

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 04:18 PM
Nationals select DeLaughter in fifth round-144

Quality pick.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 04:19 PM
FWIW, White Sox just selected Ryan Rote in round 5. The Yankees drafted him last year. He was at one time the closer at Vanderbilt, but was removed from that role this season...

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:21 PM
Pitchers in the fifth round up the wazoo

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:23 PM
Yankees coming up at #169

:( OR :)

boday
06-07-05, 04:24 PM
More on Gardner

Set a SoCon mark with 21 sacrifice bunts
Was 10-for-16 when bunting for hits (.625)
Hit .533 in the second inning, .400 in the third, .520 in the eighth and .444 in the ninth
Led the team hitting .500 with runners on base and two outs and .429 with two outs and runners in scoring position
Hit .392 vs. lhp, .393 vs. rhp, .444 with runners on base and .429 with the bases loaded

Bejesuus A CF with an arm, speed and instincts. Plug him in at Tampa and see if he can motor on up. You don't have to project or develop speed. We now have four CFs ranging in age from 18 to 22. Henry, Battle, Cabrera and Gardner. Keep the best and take bids on the rest in a couple of years. Did anyone notice that there is a real shortage of quality CFs. If Gardner masters the wooden bat quickly we optimistically could see him in Columbus by next year.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:27 PM
So uh, i'm not sure who that is or how to spell his name. I'm not sure what to feel.

38Special
06-07-05, 04:28 PM
Round 5 #169:

LHP Zach Kroenke - U Nebraska

While Gordon is clearly the team's (if not the country's) best hitter, there's debate about which Cornhuskers lefty is better, with more scouts siding with Zach Kroenke (3) over Brian Duensing (6). Kroenke has tighter stuff, with a heavy 88-93 mph fastball and a 78-82 mph slider

sir_captain
06-07-05, 04:28 PM
Baseball America on Yankees 5th round pick Zach Groenke:

"there's debate about which Cornhuskers lefty is better, with more scouts siding with Zach Kroenke (3) over Brian Duensing (6). Kroenke has tighter stuff, with a heavy 88-93 mph fastball and a 78-82 mph slider. Scouts don't like his pie-throwing arm-action, which costs him command and consistency."

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:28 PM
2005 Outlook: Left-hander Zach Kroenke (pronounced KRON-nec-key) was one of the most pleasant surprises of the 2004 season, serving as the ace of the Husker staff the entire season Earned second-team All-Big 12 honors from the league coaches, going 7-5 with a 3.03 ERA in a team-high 15 starts Anchored the staff by going at least seven innings in seven of his final nine starts, including complete-game efforts at Kansas State and against No. 10 Texas A&M Is a polished pitcher who effectively works throughout the strike zone and uses the entire plate Gained valuable experience pitching for Harwich in the Cape Cod League against some of the top college players in the country Is a hard-throwing southpaw who is motivated to become one of the Big 12s best starters in 2005.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 04:28 PM
Zach Kroenke from BA:

"Kroenke has tighter stuff, with a heavy 88-93 mph fastball and a 78-82 mph slider. Scouts don't like his pie-throwing arm-action, which costs him command and consistency."

He's a lefty...

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:29 PM
Zachary Kroenke - LH Pitcher - U Nebraska Lincoln

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:29 PM
College player :(

Zachary Kroenke Nebraska

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:29 PM
Does anyone have the link to the Draft Tracker with the vids of the players? MLB.com took it down

Yanks21
06-07-05, 04:30 PM
Not exactly sure what "pie-throwing arm-action" looks like...

Vin
06-07-05, 04:30 PM
Why did the Yankees pick another Shortstop? why not a possibly great outfielder? or pitcher?

Stealthspy
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
Yankees select Zach Kronenke with pick 169. Another effing college player (ranked #74th among college players). Not projected to go in the first 5 rounds, like usual with this draft.


Kroenke has tighter stuff, with a heavy 88-93 mph fastball and a 78-82 mph slider. Scouts don't like his pie-throwing arm-action, which costs him command and consistency.

27IsNext
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
I can't wait to have Mel work with all these guys! :)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
Plug this into winamp for a vid, it's crappy low quality, the link to the high quality one is broken:

mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/draft/prospects/kroenke_zachary_b_56.wmv?ct1=mlb

EDIT: Here is a link for the high quality version as well

mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/draft/prospects/kroenke_zachary_b_350.wmv?ct1=mlb

ICEBERG18
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
Did not have a real healthy early part of the year, but a lefty that can pitch around 90 mph with a body like his is a very solid pick.

Yanks21
06-07-05, 04:31 PM
I've been incredibly underwhelmed by the draft so far...

27IsNext
06-07-05, 04:32 PM
Why did the Yankees pick another Shortstop? why not a possibly great outfielder? or pitcher?

Henry DOES project to the OF.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 04:33 PM
I really hope they can take some risks coming up...

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:33 PM
Hey Fenrir, can you post the link to the MLB Draft Tracker page with those vids on it. Thanks. :)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:34 PM
Hey Fenrir, can you post the link to the MLB Draft Tracker page with those vids on it. Thanks. :)
Here you go:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/components/events/draft/y2005/tracker/tracker_lastName_A_1.html

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:34 PM
Not exactly sure what "pie-throwing arm-action" looks like...

Imagine yourself throwing a pie. :)

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:35 PM
The Yankees obviously want to re-stock the upper levels of their farm system so they don't have to hear that they don't have any ML ready prospects. Then they can trade them away.

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:35 PM
Here you go:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/components/events/draft/y2005/tracker/tracker_lastName_A_1.html

Thank you. :)

boday
06-07-05, 04:36 PM
Yankees select Zach Kronenke with pick 169. Another effing college player (ranked #74th among college players). Not projected to go in the first 5 rounds, like usual with this draft.

It's called job security. Not my fault Boss he was rated highly. Besides I recced Poterson last year.

sugmasterflex
06-07-05, 04:36 PM
Not exactly sure what "pie-throwing arm-action" looks like...

:roflmao::roflmao:

Yanks21
06-07-05, 04:36 PM
Imagine yourself throwing a pie. :)

I can imagine myself throwing a pie in many different ways. Sounds like a p.c. way of saying he throws like a girl... ;)

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:36 PM
In the video for anyone who actually cares, he doesn't actually hit 90 on the gun. Take it for what its worth.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:48 PM
#199 coming up

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:49 PM
Another college pitcher... Sigh

JeffWeaverFan
06-07-05, 04:50 PM
Yankees surprising pick yet another college pitcher: Douglas Fister - RHP -Fresno St.

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:50 PM
Douglas Fister 6'8 200
COMMENT: Extra-large frame. Tall & thin. Long, lean muscles. Loose, clean arm action. Fluid w/ good extention. 87-89 w/ downplane, late run & sink. Circle change w/ FB arm speed, fade & sink. Keeps hitters off balance w/ four-pitch mix.

Edit: Video Link: mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/2005/open/draft/prospects/fister_douglas_w_350.wmv?ct1=mlb

38Special
06-07-05, 04:50 PM
Fresno State junior RHP Doug Fister (100) started at first base on Fridays and Saturdays and took the mound on Sundays in most Western Athletic Conference series this year. Though his velocity was normally 88-91 mph, he has a ways to go to fill out his 6-foot-8, 195-pound frame, and scouts believe he will add velocity as he puts on another 20-30 pounds.

I like this pick, could be a sleeper.

TheScooter
06-07-05, 04:50 PM
Doug Fister

ojo
06-07-05, 04:51 PM
sounds like a poor man's volstad.

TannerBoyle
06-07-05, 04:52 PM
I can imagine myself throwing a pie in many different ways. Sounds like a p.c. way of saying he throws like a girl... ;)

So he's got The Good Face and a JohnnyDamonArm?
Sweet.

38Special
06-07-05, 04:52 PM
Birthdate:
02/04/1984

Kulish29
06-07-05, 04:53 PM
The Yankees obviously had a plan with this draft. One high ceiling highschooler and the rest of the draft college players. How unfortunate. :(

Michaels07
06-07-05, 04:53 PM
I really hope they can take some risks coming up...

LIKE WHO ?

27IsNext
06-07-05, 04:54 PM
It could be that the Yankees want these guys to move quickly through the system, thus giving the upper levels (where we are weak at) more prospects quickly.

tdel23
06-07-05, 04:54 PM
what's wrong with college players?

sir_captain
06-07-05, 04:55 PM
LIKE WHO ?

I still want Pedro Alvarez

I'd also like to take a flyer on Valvaro pretty soon with the understanding that he'll miss a year.

Shadowblade225
06-07-05, 04:55 PM
this draft blows the first pick was good and Gardner has the potetional to be good but the other guys dont sound too promising maybe cox but thats it

Fenrir
06-07-05, 04:55 PM
The Yankees obviously had a plan with this draft. One high ceiling highschooler and the rest of the draft college players. How unfortunate. :(
It makes no sense to me. If anything wouldn't you take the polished player in the 1st and then go high cieling later. They got my hopes up, I was thinking we were going high schoolers for most of the draft.

ZYanksRule
06-07-05, 04:55 PM
this draft blows the first pick was good and Gardner has the potetional to be good but the other guys dont sound too promising maybe cox but thats it

Man we are tough, there's still like 40 rounds to go!!!