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YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 05:22 PM
As everyone knows, Sox fans and Yankee fans have a long history of disliking each other (in terms of baseball). That has been evident this past week. Now, I want every Yankee fan to say at least one thing they like and respect about Sox fans. Conversely, Sox fans, I want you to say at least one thing you like and respect about Yankee fans. I ask that this thread stay on topic, if you can't think of anything, please do not say "nothing". As your Mother has told you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all!" :)

I will reply with my item.

YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 05:24 PM
Okay. Main thing is I respect Sox fans because they are just as intense in their love of the Sox as the Yankee fans are of the Yankees. I think, for the most part, their love of the game is equal. When you dissect Yankee and Red Sox fans and get down to the core, the only real difference is the teams they like. Most of my most furvent arguments/debates with Sox fans are with those whose passion for their team/sport mirrors mine.

ClayParker
02-23-05, 05:29 PM
Some of the chicks I saw in the stands at Fenway Park during the ALCS were pretty hot. And they were wearing Red Sox gear.

Prickly Pete
02-23-05, 05:35 PM
Conversely, Sox fans, I want you to say at least one thing you like and respect about Yankee fans.
The first year I truly remember watching baseball was 1978. I distinctly recall watching Ron Guidry pitch during that incredible season, and every time he got two strikes on a batter, Yankee Stadium would absolutely come alive with fans standing and cheering. Didn't matter if it was the 1st or the 9th. That was an awesome display.

Since that was a long time ago, I'll also say that I respect the way that most Yankee fans revere the team's great players from the past.

This thread feels like a therapy session. I hope it stays on track, because I don't understand the hatred.

YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 05:36 PM
This thread feels like a therapy session. I hope it stays on track, because I don't understand the hatred.

That's one of the reasons I started it, sort of like an opportunity to catch our breathe before the next hot debate starts up!

sox jedi 14
02-23-05, 05:38 PM
Ahhh, how refreshing. Good idea for a thread with all this venom recently.

I love how Yankees fans are very big into their history. I think Yankee fans are an extremely loyal bunch, and are certainly not "fair weather fans" as I have heard them been called in the past. I also enjoy that the team is treated as an extension of the city and its personality (which is tough for me to swallow since I'm a NY boy and love NYC). I'm sure more will come to mind, but I'm definitely happy with the Yankees as the main rival.

Buzah!
02-23-05, 05:38 PM
I think they are the most pathologically envious people in all of sports fandom ( I could have said the world, but there's a part of it that makes Sox fans seem decent by comparison). Anyway, one positive thing: Prickly Pete would make an excellent Yankee fan.

BroadwayBomber55
02-23-05, 05:39 PM
I have friends of mine in school that are Red Sox fans and some chat pals in this board like cubswin, NDBoston, stevethesoxfan, and WakefieldsCrewSox.

We don't talk baseball all the time. Sometimes, you need to talk other things like football, Reality TV, etc.

Baseball is just a sport.

yankeefaneternally
02-23-05, 05:45 PM
Only real thing I like about Red Sox fans is the girls they attract...I remember seeing a yankee/redsox game and the broadcasters kept showing this couple..the guy was a yankee fan and the girl was a red sox fan...the girl was pretty dam good looking..dunno how that guy manages to keep the relationship going...lol...but really..the competitive nature the sox fans bring about is great..this rivalry wouldnt be as good as it is if those fans werent so hostile against us yankee fans

Snatch Catch
02-23-05, 05:46 PM
I loved the joy I saw in some of my good friend's faces and eyes when the Sox actually one last year. It made me smile knowing to a certain degree what they were going through, and how much it meant.

I went to school in Ohio in from 96-00 and I had to constantly deal with all of the Indians fans out there. Nothing felt better than when the Yanks would beat the Indians.

And when they broke through in '96 after being down 2-0? Oh, MAN. I took such a ribbing, but the feeling when they won was just unreal.

To see some of my good friends have that happen, and to know what the Sox winning meant to a lot of people I will never meet is extremely awing.

YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 05:48 PM
I am going to ask again that ONLY positive things appear here. If I wanted a thread about "what do you hate about the other team" I would have. Thank you.

Jersey Yankee
02-23-05, 05:49 PM
My favorite Red Sox fan is on another board, so few people here know her (other than a few chosen ones). Anyway, she's very intelligent, passionate, goes back 4 generations, lives in New England and is very respectful to fans of all teams.

I like how she roots for her team, and she likes how I root for the Yanks. We exchange views all the time on both teams.

We also talk non-baseball stuff like photography, people, weather, good food, etc. We've become more like "friends" over the past few years than anything else. We're also co-Mods on a subforum similar to ATM, as well as being the primary Mods on our respective team subforums.

As to forumers here, I'll list northern, cubswin, stevethesoxfan, FoulkeLore and MaineSoxFan among those whose posts I've enjoyed the most.

As to players, my faves would be Yaz, Teddy, Nomah and Papi.

Snatch Catch
02-23-05, 05:53 PM
Great thread by the way, GoRocket. :clapping:

I really enjoy watching Ortiz hit absolutely monstrous homeruns.

When Thome first came up with the Indians, it was the same way with him. I once saw him hit a ball OVER the foulpole...

...Ortiz is the same way. My best friend and I used to describe Thome as "You ever wonder what it would look like if a powerhitter abandoned all attempts to be under control and just unloaded everything he could on the ball? I mean, just swung so hard he almost fell down....but he made perfect contact?"

Ortiz has that aspect to his game and I love watching it. He swings so hard and visually it looks like he might fall over, but when he gets a perfect connection, you just can't help but smile...even if you're watching the game alone. Its just one of those baseball things that makes the game so great.

Snatch Catch
02-23-05, 05:59 PM
I love how Manny is just a hitting savant.

Nothing impresses me more than guys who are geniuses at what they do. Manny is an absolute genius at the plate. Period (Oh, and I don't need anyone to chime in here and say anything about where he isn't a genius). I have so much respect for that.

My post about Ortiz is the same way, kind of: He's elite when it comes to crushing the ball. I love seeing dominance or performance of the highest level regarding a specific skill no matter who the guy plays for.

NJ Fan
02-23-05, 06:05 PM
I thought we were to comment on the other team's FANS...not the other team. :dunno:


Anyway, I really like Dave Visbeck and Pepper03! I believe they are two great fans of their team and they are REALLY here to discuss baseball and not to taunt and cause trouble.

NYYBombshell
02-23-05, 06:22 PM
My father is the only Sox fan I know off this board.

So, I like my dad because he hasn't done anything to make me not like him.....that I know of.

IncredibleByNature
02-23-05, 06:27 PM
Anyway, I really like Dave Visbeck and Pepper03! I believe they are two great fans of their team and they are REALLY here to discuss baseball and not to taunt and cause trouble.

Dave is a cool guy from what I can tell. :cool:

Pancake
02-23-05, 06:38 PM
I saw an interview with Susan St. James shortly after the tragic plane accident that took the life of her son, Teddy and injured her husband, Dick Ebersol. She was wearing Teddy's Boston Red Sox hat. She talked about what a huge Red Sox fan he was and how thrilled he was that they had won the WS. If I remember correctly, I think she said her family had been at some of the games. It was a very happy memory for her. I remember thinking at that time that I was happy that she had that memory and also that her son had a chance to cheer on a WS winner.

HipHipJorge
02-23-05, 07:01 PM
I respect the passion. Also, at root of our passion lies the same thing....baseball.

Great thread GoRocket, things have been a bit tense around here lately.

Rich
02-23-05, 07:11 PM
Can I get back to you on this?

btw, I echo Buzah!'s props for Prickly Pete.

nhyankeefan
02-23-05, 07:17 PM
This is a great thread.

what I respect about Sox fans is they truly are fans of baseball. I remember being at a game at Fenway in 98 and during a rain delay they played one of McGuire's at bats on the big screen and the place erupted when he hit a home run. It was probably the loudest cheer I heard at the park all night.

PippyPinstripes
02-23-05, 07:45 PM
Not one sox fan called me after last year to rub it in.

StaceyRosie
02-23-05, 07:47 PM
Not one sox fan called me after last year to rub it in.

Me either but of course I did threaten to pull a Lorena Bobbit on them.... :uhh:

Dynasties R Forever
02-23-05, 07:54 PM
I admire their undying devotion. I was watching game 3 on TV with a friend. We knew of a Sox fan at that game so we decided to call her on the cell. Down 19-8 and soon to be 3 games to 0 she was staying to the last out hoping for a comeback. They really deserved this one.

Soriambi
02-23-05, 08:02 PM
As others have said, I appreciate how much they love their team. We have some good ones on the board here, too. :)

Yogi's Boy
02-23-05, 08:04 PM
I've always admired Red Sox fans for supporting a team that have won 1 Baseball Championship in 87 years!;)

S2
02-23-05, 08:10 PM
I respect Yankee fans because they are so similar to Sox fans, as others have mentioned. Just change the logo on the hats of the fans and no one would ever know the difference. The passion is great on both sides, as is the emotion. Yankee fans are always packing the stadium, letting the opposing team have it and loving their team.

Two things that stand out in my mind when I think of Sox Yanks fans is when Torre came back from missing some time in 1999 and he got a standing ovation at Fenway, and how Yankee fans respectfully allowed the Sox fans attending Game 7 last year to celebrate the win. It could have been ugly (and had the roles been reversed, probably would have been ugly at Fenway) but Yankee fans showed a lot of class and character by giving the Sox fans their room.

A Sox friend of mine said after Oakland went up 2-0 in 2003 that he would rather have the Yankees go to the World Series than the A's, because the A's fans didn't deserve it because they didn't always support their team like the Yankee fans did.

Too often in baseball we say half-empty stadiums. But only a handful of clubs can see they pack the place every night, Yankees and Sox leading they way, which speaks volumes about the fanbases. The Rivalry is great for baseball, even if they are 1-2 in payroll. Without the Rivalry, baseball's only story would be Barry Bonds and Jose Canseco.

I expect another great season, which will begin with the Sox playing the Yanks and might end with the Sox playing the Yanks, again.

Snatch Catch
02-23-05, 08:11 PM
I thought we were to comment on the other team's FANS...not the other team. :dunno:


Anyway, I really like Dave Visbeck and Pepper03! I believe they are two great fans of their team and they are REALLY here to discuss baseball and not to taunt and cause trouble.


Oops.

My first post had to do with Sox fans, though! :D

NJ Fan
02-23-05, 08:15 PM
Oops....

:lol: That's OK----the rules said that if I had nothing nice to say, I wasn't allowed to say "nothing" so I am glad I had something nice to say about a couple of fans....because I could find NOTHING nice to say about the team! :P

AMC
02-23-05, 08:16 PM
I like the passion Yankees and Red Sox fans show for their respective teams but, most importantly, I love how all fans unite in their intense dislike for Ben Affleck. ;)

PippyPinstripes
02-23-05, 08:17 PM
I don't have a problem with ONE Sox fan IRL. Not one, they're all wonderful people who I love very much.

ACPS
02-23-05, 08:22 PM
Big Dog is funny.

NDBoston
02-23-05, 08:22 PM
The people of NYC (which includes mostly Yankee fans) might be the strongest and most supportive people I've ever met, and I saw this firsthand after 9/11.

I rooted hard for them in the 2001 World Series and respect the passion of their fans.

Snatch Catch
02-23-05, 08:29 PM
:lol: That's OK----the rules said that if I had nothing nice to say, I wasn't allowed to say "nothing" so I am glad I had something nice to say about a couple of fans....because I could find NOTHING nice to say about the team! :P

Well, I get a long well with a bunch of the Sox fans here (I think :lol: ).

FoulkeLore (who I haven't seen in a while), Pepper, Prickly Pete, S2, MaineSoxFan and the ultra-controversial cubswin ;).

Stevethesoxfan was my boy, but our friendship was destroyed in The Shania Twain Incident. :(

My favorite thing about Sox fans on this site specifically is when everyone can just let down their guard and be honest without fear of having their comments twisted around. When this happens we usually end up agreeing...and those are my favorite moments period, when it comes to posting here. :)

cubhater
02-23-05, 08:31 PM
Not one sox fan called me after last year to rub it in.

Now that's class!

Even though I'm not a Boston or Yankee fan, let me chime in with some positives...

I respect your passion for both of your teams. Yankee fans, you have the greatest dynasty in sports and are some of the most knowledgeable fans I've encountered at games. Red Sox fans, I applaud you for sticking through all the heartbreaks over the years. Even though my White Sox never came so close yet so far as you guys, I can't imagine the pain you endured until last season. I only pray that they come through and win it all sometime in my lifetime.

Archer1979
02-23-05, 08:48 PM
My grandfather was a Yankee fan. I never knew it as he passed away long before I even followed sports.

My brother is a Yankee fan. He called my 7 year old son the morning of Game 7 of the ALCS and wished him luck.

One of my best friends is a Yankee fan. He called my phone mail the morning after Game 7 and left a message, which I have saved, that the "Red Sox suck". He then Emailed me congratulating me on the Red Sox victory. He hated that it happened but he was genuinely happy for me.

We're opposite sides of the same coin. We're a Yin to each other's Yang. If the Red Sox did not exist, the Mets could not possibly fill the void. If the Yankees did not exist, the Orioles would still be just another team.

Together, we represent the greatest rivalry in all of sports. The irony is that it is our similarities that separate us, not our differences.

TommyK8
02-23-05, 08:50 PM
First of all, I love New York and New Yorkers are great people. The city should never get a bad rap. The people are some of the best you can find anywhere. They are real, and they are fun, and I've never had a bad experience in New York. And the truth be told, other than baseball, the city has endured a great amount of frustration in other sports. Until last year, I was three times cursed-a Red Sox fan who never tasted anything but the agony of defeat, and a Knicks and Jets fan who did not remember their championships. And we all know the Rangers fans have paid their dues. All of the Yankee fans I know I like as people, and their choice of a team has never affected our friendship. The ribbing I took incessantly was always in good fun, although I must say that my equilibrium has been thrown off because this winter I have not received one phone call from a Yankee fan alerting me that an epic Red Sox loss was being broadcast on Classic Sports. Not one photo of Babe Ruth pinned to my door or sent to me in e-mail. And since October 20, 2004, the originator of this thread, a man with over 15,000 posts to this site, GoRocket (the biggest Yankee fan I know), has not left me one voice mail of the complete Yankee theme song, not one tape of John Sterling's "thhhheeeeeee Yankees win" or the clip of Bob Murphy's broadcast of Bill Bucker's error. And for that, I am truly grateful.

As we enter the 2005 season, I hope for no injuries to either side, I wish Giambi luck in his comeback, and may the best team win.

sox jedi 14
02-23-05, 09:53 PM
First of all, I love New York and New Yorkers are great people. The city should never get a bad rap. The people are some of the best you can find anywhere. They are real, and they are fun, and I've never had a bad experience in New York. And the truth be told, other than baseball, the city has endured a great amount of frustration in other sports. Until last year, I was three times cursed-a Red Sox fan who never tasted anything but the agony of defeat, and a Knicks and Jets fan who did not remember their championships. And we all know the Rangers fans have paid their dues. All of the Yankee fans I know I like as people, and their choice of a team has never affected our friendship. The ribbing I took incessantly was always in good fun, although I must say that my equilibrium has been thrown off because this winter I have not received one phone call from a Yankee fan alerting me that an epic Red Sox loss was being broadcast on Classic Sports. Not one photo of Babe Ruth pinned to my door or sent to me in e-mail. And since October 20, 2004, the originator of this thread, a man with over 15,000 posts to this site, GoRocket (the biggest Yankee fan I know), has not left me one voice mail of the complete Yankee theme song, not one tape of John Sterling's "thhhheeeeeee Yankees win" or the clip of Bob Murphy's broadcast of Bill Bucker's error. And for that, I am truly grateful.

As we enter the 2005 season, I hope for no injuries to either side, I wish Giambi luck in his comeback, and may the best team win.

I think I'm getting a little verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves, topic: we all hate Barry Bonds.

YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 10:11 PM
First of all, I love New York and New Yorkers are great people. The city should never get a bad rap. The people are some of the best you can find anywhere. They are real, and they are fun, and I've never had a bad experience in New York. And the truth be told, other than baseball, the city has endured a great amount of frustration in other sports. Until last year, I was three times cursed-a Red Sox fan who never tasted anything but the agony of defeat, and a Knicks and Jets fan who did not remember their championships. And we all know the Rangers fans have paid their dues. All of the Yankee fans I know I like as people, and their choice of a team has never affected our friendship. The ribbing I took incessantly was always in good fun, although I must say that my equilibrium has been thrown off because this winter I have not received one phone call from a Yankee fan alerting me that an epic Red Sox loss was being broadcast on Classic Sports. Not one photo of Babe Ruth pinned to my door or sent to me in e-mail. And since October 20, 2004, the originator of this thread, a man with over 15,000 posts to this site, GoRocket (the biggest Yankee fan I know), has not left me one voice mail of the complete Yankee theme song, not one tape of John Sterling's "thhhheeeeeee Yankees win" or the clip of Bob Murphy's broadcast of Bill Bucker's error. And for that, I am truly grateful.

As we enter the 2005 season, I hope for no injuries to either side, I wish Giambi luck in his comeback, and may the best team win.

Well for the record, none of those recordings of those songs came direct from me. I send them to a fellow Yankee fan who decides to pass it on.

YankeePride1967
02-23-05, 10:12 PM
Just one note. I didn't necesarily mean what posters on here you like (although that is an interesting unintended addition). I was thinking more in terms of fans in general. As a collective.

BobbyMurcerFan
02-23-05, 10:46 PM
I like the passion Yankees and Red Sox fans show for their respective teams but, most importantly, I love how all fans unite in their intense dislike for Ben Affleck. ;)DITTO!!

I have to say, every Sox fan I knew was gracious in victory. And they love their team win or lose. If they don't win the WS this year, they will be disappointed but they'll still be happy if their team played w/ heart.

Kulish29
02-23-05, 11:03 PM
My relatives from Mass are nice. There. :P

thereisnocurse
02-23-05, 11:09 PM
My best friend is a die-hard Yankees fan, my Yankee fan of a boss is from the Bronx, one of my old college roomates is a Yankees fan, and several of my co-workers are Yankee fans...believe it or not, I like them all :)

Yankee fans are extremely knowledgable and extremely passionate which helps make the rivalry what it is. What I enjoyed in reading this board is that, after the ALCS and World Series most Yankee fans were understandly upset and perhaps shocked, but the attitude was "Okay, it's 26-1 since 1918...let's get em next year!!"

Frankly I would've been disappointed if the attitude had been anything different. Cheers to Yankee fans and cheers to sports' greatest rivalry.

Judge Mental
02-23-05, 11:11 PM
I have a lot of Yankee-fan family members and my college roomate of the past 4 years is a fairfield county CT yanks fan and as you can all probably guess we go at it a lot. People are amazed that we haven't killed each other yet but we're actually very good friends and despite the fact that we talk ................ to each other for entire months at a time.

I've been to about 10 Sox/Yanks games at the stadium and I've never had a problem there, although I've had a lot of friendly arguments. A lot of the times I end up talking to everybody in my section and it's generally pretty friendly. There are a-hole Yanks fans and there are a-hole Sox fans but there are also good people everywhere and I enjoy being around people who have had the (mis?)fortune of being born into a sports culture as intense and historic as the Sox in Boston or the Yanks in New York.

I was at the Stadium for the Pedro/Moose game where Pedro hit Soriano and Jeter to start the game off. I was wearing my Pedro jersey and I stood up to see the replay and everybody started booing me, I started to argue with a couple people around me that both Jeter and Sori were swinging when the ball hit them and this old guy sitting behind me leaned in and said "I know kid, I know....but you're not gonna get Hitler elected in Jerusalem"

That's still the funniest thing anyone's ever said to me at a baseball game.

Tristan
02-23-05, 11:47 PM
Not one sox fan called me after last year to rub it in.

I got several. Which pissed me off, because I never pull that crap.

hellonewman
02-24-05, 12:11 AM
Rachael Ray is kind of cute.

PaulieIsAwesome
02-24-05, 12:27 AM
I consider 5 of the Red Sox fans I know up here in Cambridge to be true fans. Guys from New England, who took their lumps in 2003, who can talk the game. Those 5 guys, 4 friends and my rabbi, are among the smartest baseball fans I know. I emailed them with congratulations after the ALCS, and in some way was happy with their overwhelming joy.

This, of course, was after my initial reaction during Game 7.

Bosox Guy in Chitown
02-24-05, 06:33 AM
The only yankee fans I know in my day-to-day life that I happen to dislike, well, let's say I do not dislike them for their choice of team but for other reasons altogether.

And, given the climate recently, creating this thread says a lot about the thread starter.

HipHipJorge
02-24-05, 07:56 AM
Rachael Ray is kind of cute.

NO WAY, She's a red sox fan?????? No more 30 minute meals for me!

hugelongtermdeal
02-24-05, 08:06 AM
I'm a big fan of the first inning ritual at the stadium where the fans in the bleachers chant each players name until they get aknowledgment.

Also, I received many calls/emails from yankee fans congratulating me after the sox won.

NDBoston
02-24-05, 08:14 AM
NO WAY, She's a red sox fan?????? No more 30 minute meals for me!

Rachael is a HUGE Red sox fan and threw out the first pitch before a Red Sox game in 2003. She grew up in the Cape, so it's not surprising.

Dooley Womack
02-24-05, 09:10 AM
Rachael is a HUGE Red sox fan and threw out the first pitch before a Red Sox game in 2003. She grew up in the Cape, so it's not surprising.
She always talks about being from the Chicago area on her show, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe she moved to the Cape sometime in her childhood.

I think she's a cutie, but she sort of has those "man hands" that remind me of that Seinfeld episode.

silverdsl
02-24-05, 09:15 AM
A lot of my praise for Red Sox fans has already been mentioned - loyalty, devotion, dedication, passion, the intensity of the emotion that the fans feel for their team. Very similar to the way most Yankee fans feel about their team.

-Deborah

NDBoston
02-24-05, 09:20 AM
She always talks about being from the Chicago area on her show, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe she moved to the Cape sometime in her childhood.

I think she's a cutie too, but she sort of has those "man hands" that remind me of that Seinfeld episode. :eek:

Her bio says she lived on the Cape and the family then moved to NYC.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/rachael_ray/article/0,1974,FOOD_9928_1702057,00.html

I love this picture too. Funny, I've never noticed her hands...:lol:

http://www.vistaseeker.com/sassys_girls/RachelRay/r5.jpg SFW

KirbyPuckett
02-24-05, 09:33 AM
I think what we have all experienced is once you get past the rivalry that causes you to hurl disparaging remarks at one and other in the stands during big games, is deep down our fanbases are remarkably similar. Both have unbelievable passion that has remained during success (mainly Yanks) and heart break (mainly Sox).

Bandwagon fans come and go, but true fans of the Sox and Yanks are fans for life. Believe me, through tough times with the Sox, my girlfriend has jokingly said "why don't you just give up on them", and what I told her was "it would be impossible" No matter what I said on the outside, I have an internal drive to watch the games, read the papers, and chat on message boards such as this one. And I believe everyone on this board feels the same way.

On of my favorite things as a Sox fan, is going to Fenway for a Yanks/Sox game and finding that I am sitting with a Yankee fan or two. (not drunk meatheads who only want to yell) but true fans. Because after the standard barbs, and jokes, there is nothing better than getting into a intelligent discussion of baseball with a true Yankees fan. And it always ends with one congratualting the other, and going our seperate ways.

b-ball-lunachick
02-24-05, 09:52 AM
Rachael is a HUGE Red sox fan and threw out the first pitch before a Red Sox game in 2003. She grew up in the Cape, so it's not surprising.

actually I don't think that's true...she went to high school with my boss who grew up in upstate NY near Lake George...not sure why she'd put that in her bio...

b-ball-lunachick
02-24-05, 09:57 AM
All of the Sox fans I actually know in "real life" (vs cyber life here) are very dedicated fans, who are passionate about their team and appreciate the history of the game. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for most of the Sox fans I "know" in cyberspace -- with the exception of a few like MaineSoxFan, Foulke Lore and RootN4Rocket. :)

The best thing I can say about a single Red Sox fan is that I'm dating one and not only is he a loyal, dedicated, passionate fan, but he's an amazing person and just as passionate in all areas of his life...thankfully. ;)

docsteve
02-24-05, 10:11 AM
The first year I truly remember watching baseball was 1978. I distinctly recall watching Ron Guidry pitch during that incredible season, and every time he got two strikes on a batter, Yankee Stadium would absolutely come alive with fans standing and cheering. Didn't matter if it was the 1st or the 9th. That was an awesome display.

Since that was a long time ago, I'll also say that I respect the way that most Yankee fans revere the team's great players from the past.

This thread feels like a therapy session. I hope it stays on track, because I don't understand the hatred.

the hatred comes from you being the enemy, always being in our way towards a world championship

in many warrior societies your worth is measured by the mightyness of your enemies

there is a great old book called 'the worm ourboras' about an epic struggle between two evenly matched foes, at the end the gods are so impressed that they alter time so that the struggle can continue forever

the rivalry, it's really just begun

FoulkeLore
02-24-05, 10:13 AM
I remember back in Psych 101 I learned that how we feel about other people is really only self-reflection of our own characterisitcs projected on to others, hence the characteristics we see in others are our own, good and bad.

Throughout the years my respect for Yankee fans and players has grown with my own maturity and increased knowledge of the game itself. A few years ago I chanted "Yankees Suck", said I "hated" the Yankees with no good reason and debated endlessly that Nomar was better (ok, some of those years he was but now it's no contest) ;)

A few incidents that I remember had a lot to do with my new-found respect for Yankee fans and the team itself. One imparticular comes to mind...

This is not the first or most significant, but one that I'll always remember. 2003 ALCS, Game 7.....Me and two friends of mine flew down to Miami to watch the Pats/Dolphins game that weekend and we were pretty pumped when we realized a week or two before that we may witness a Game 7 Vs The Yankees. So it was. We watched most of the game at The Clevelander. Since the Pats were in town, it was mostly Red Sox fans but when we finally established where we were gonna stand out by the pool deck for the night to watch the game on their enormous big screen TV, I noticed the kid next to me wasn't goin' bananas when something went well for the Sox. I said nothing. I'm not sure how it happened, whether he said something to me or I said something to him but we got into around the 6th inning. At one point, I asked him, in my most wise-ass of voices, "So, what, did you just start paying attention now that they made the playoffs?" He got really upset, told me to "F*** off and that he suffered through the 80's with the bad teams..etc"

Eventually we both calmed down, again, not sure who broke through but suddenly we were just two guys, watching one of the most important games of our lifetimes, as respecting fans talking baseball. He was praising Red Sox players. I was praising Yankee players. He intorduces me to his fiancee. I'm buying them beers and they return the favor.

Now, we all know what happened in what was one of the greatest playoff games in recent history (not so much for me but I can appreciate drama). When things started to unravel, him and I talked less, cheered more but were both mindful of each other. I remember when Pedro let up the tying double to Posada he looked at me and said "You're in trouble". Deep down I felt it too but I denied it.....in the end, Wakefield with the pitch......Boone with a deep drive...goodnight, ball game, Yanks win again....Sox lose again

I've never been more crushed in my entire Red Sox fandom. The Yankee fan next to me literally gave me a hug (a man-hug anyways) and told me he felt worse for me than good for his team. He was probably just being nice but the sentiment meant more than words. He invited me and my disgurntled friends to another bar for a drink but we declined and needed to sulk in the company of misery with Sox fans.

That night I gained loads of respect for the way one Yankee fan handled winning in the face of a Red Sox fan struggling with losing.

Plus, my girlfriend just so happens to be the biggest Yankee fan I've ever met and seemingly knows more about the game than just about anyone I've ever met. I guess by default I have no choice but to put up with her ;) (kidding of course). So I not only appreciate her as a Yankee fan, but a baseball fan as well as an intelligent, caring, thoughtful and beautiful woman :)

HipHipJorge
02-24-05, 10:34 AM
Rachael is a HUGE Red sox fan and threw out the first pitch before a Red Sox game in 2003. She grew up in the Cape, so it's not surprising.

So disappointing ;) I knew there had to be something off about her considering she spells her name wrong! (No offense meant to anyone, I just happen to end mine w/ el not ael.

Yankees Empire
02-24-05, 10:59 AM
Nice things about the Red Sox or their fans? Ok.

1) Red Sox fans are passionate and knowledgeable. This is no small thing. Since I live in Southern California, I see first-hand the passive nature of sports spectators here.

"Dude, this game blows. Let's go."

"What'dya mean?" It's 4-4 in the 6th inning. You can't leave!"

Angel fans and Dodger fans seem to forget there's even a game going on. Drives me nuts sometimes. No such issue with BoSox fans.

2) Red Sox fans are patient. 86 years without a championship and coming ever so close on several occasions only to fail? As Yankee fans, we may laugh at that but when you think of it objectively, it's pretty brutal.

3) Growing up in the 70s and 80s, two of my favorite players to watch were Jim Rice and Dwight Evans. I loved to watch Rice hit because he just absolutely crushed the ball when he got one. Dwight Evans was one of the smartest and hardest playing guys ever. I'd take them both.

4) The Red Sox haven't fussed around with their uniform design too much. Seeing teams like the Angels and Blue Jays change their uniform design every 15 minutes annoys the hell out of me. This is baseball. Tradition means something in this game.

Gosh. I do feel better. Maybe I should go to a football board and say something nice about (gulp) Raider fans now.

Nah, maybe not.

KP88
02-24-05, 11:37 AM
I spent the autumn of 2003 studying in Dublin, Ireland. The first friend I made while there was another American in the program, and a die-hard Yankee fan.

During the LCS that year, the Yank and I scouted around for any bar that would show the games, and sure enough, we found one, although it was a 45 min. walk into a not-so-nice part of the city. But hell, this was the LCS.

Skip to game 7- being a 7 pm start EST, it was 12 am Dublin time, and thus all the bars were closing (in Dublin?? I know, I know). But Dublin is loaded with internet cafe's, and we found a 24-hr one, paid for the mlb.com feed, and settled in for the night.

Loaded up on Red Bulls and candy bars, we alternated sitting (and the headset) as each other's respective team came to bat. Approaching 5am Dublin time, Boone did his thing, and that was that.

In walking outside the cafe, my bud said nothing. He shook my hand and called a cab. I walked, since I was staying only 20 mins away.

What's this mean? Don't know really. Bottom line- most Yankee fans are passionate, knowledgeable, and respectful. And the Yank and I are still good friends to this day.

Hitman23
02-24-05, 12:12 PM
The biggest thing I give credit to Sox fans for is prior to this championship, no matter how many dissapointments they witnessed, no matter how devistating they were, they remained fans of the team. Say what you want about them, but they are dedicated and die-hard fans.

SoCal Pinstriper
02-24-05, 12:26 PM
Several of the most dedicated baseball fans that I know out here are Sox fans. I enjoy their company. Discussing baseball with them is a pleasure as they know the game beyond their own roster. None of them gave me undue grief last fall, although, in fairness, I had established a track record of being very considerate of their team's past failures. My enjoyment of baseball would be diminished without them.

As an aside, one is a personal acquaintance of Tom Warner who fires off alcohol fueled e-mails to the Sox owner's private address on a semi regular basis (when somthing p$%^es him off). Warner actually replies occasionally which I find hilarious.

Mystic Merlyn
02-24-05, 12:48 PM
The one thing that stands out to me is Yankee Stadium in a playoff atmosphere. I was at Game 7 in 2003 and when Aaron Boone hit that HR, honest to God, the stadium was SHAKING! It was one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced and is an attribute to their passion for their team...

Some other things:

1.) Yankee Stadium is a great ballpark, no doubt about it. It definitely feels like a special place to watch a game. Plus, they have some good pretzels.

2.) The uniforms. It's kind of refreshing to see a team have basically the same uniforms their entire history. There's no denying that there is a certain lyrical aura about those pinstripes.

3.) Bob Sheppard. Again, need I say more?

4.) It is from my experience that Yankee fans are among the most knowledgeable. People often stereotype them as bandwagon fans, which isn't true. Their fans have a deep appreciation of their history and tradition.

FamilyHaircut
02-24-05, 01:12 PM
Yankees fans have the most creative strike out counting methods by far.

GoBernie
02-24-05, 03:44 PM
The passion of Red Sox fans has always impressed me.

Dooley Womack
02-24-05, 04:28 PM
Her bio says she lived on the Cape and the family then moved to NYC.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/rachael_ray/article/0,1974,FOOD_9928_1702057,00.html

I love this picture too. Funny, I've never noticed her hands...:lol:

http://www.vistaseeker.com/sassys_girls/RachelRay/r5.jpg SFW
:lol: Well, considering she's on a cooking show, sometimes you can't help but look at her hands when the camera closes in on them while she chops those veggies. Here's a photo that might give you some idea what I'm talking about.

ieddyi
02-24-05, 04:57 PM
:lol: Well, considering she's on a cooking show, sometimes you can't help but look at her hands when the camera closes in on them while she chops those veggies. Here's a photo that might give you some idea what I'm talking about.



......berry berry good to me

(sorry couldn't resist)

Pepper03
02-24-05, 05:02 PM
Nice topic.
I like several things about the Yankee fans I know.
Loyal, passionate, informed, dedicated, but the thing I most like about Yankee fans is.......most of them I know were happy for ME when the Red Sox won, which is pretty damn impressive when you think about it.
They were upset about their team, but they were happy for Sox fans like me who have experienced alot of pain and angst following the Red Sox. Since I'm 43, there's been alot of that.
I enjoy posting here so much and feel I've gotten to know more about Yankee fans since I've started coming, and it's been a pleasure.
I think this season may be as nasty as any since the wars of the 70's, anyone my age will know I'm referring to teams that really hated each other, Fisk, Lee, Rivers, Munson, real wars, and I hope it doesn't spill over into us.

PippyPinstripes
02-24-05, 05:03 PM
I like the "Louuuuuuuuuuuu" chant. Also, Matt Damon is a POA.

Espinosa's Glasses
02-24-05, 05:14 PM
I could say alot of good things about Red Sox fans... except for the ones that are on their little message board by themselves... with no one to counter their points...

I never had a problem with any of the fans... just their team trying to spoil or spoiling my life... lol

RootN4Rocket
02-24-05, 05:34 PM
I like this topic.

The best Red Sox loss I ever went to was Mussina near perfecto. I was sitting next to this awsome Yankee fan. Cone and Mussina were pitching gems. I will never forget that game or that Yankee fan. He made the expericence. I hope everyone has that game.



I have met some great fans and some of the best have in fact been Yankee fans. I enjoy coming to this site and seeing things from all sides.

hellonewman
02-24-05, 06:15 PM
:lol: Well, considering she's on a cooking show, sometimes you can't help but look at her hands when the camera closes in on them while she chops those veggies.I'd be more concerned about her voice than the man hands. 20 years and 30 pounds from now she's going to have one of those Ethel Merman/Tugboat Annie voices that leaves welts on your eardrums.

Sorry, end of hijack.

Potfry
02-24-05, 06:29 PM
Boy, this is a tough one--there's just so much to choose from! I'm trying to decide if it's the way they present grounded, cogent arguments to support their points of view, or their sense of decorum and civility-- I mean, the way they went house to house singing gospel songs last fall after they won the ALCS was just awe-inspiring!

I'm not afraid to admit it--Red Sox fans have simply raised the bar to new levels. I think we could learn so much from them, which is why I'm strongly suggesting a fan exchange program. Imagine what one Red Sox fan, spending time with us here in the Tri-State area, could do to help Yankee fans. Man. I get the shivers just thinking about it.

costanza35
02-24-05, 06:45 PM
going to school up here in Mass, practically all the friends i have made in four years here are sox fans. Although things get intense at times (often), i do respect the way we can have intelligent conversations about baseball, and the reason arguments get so intense is because we both know our stuff well.

My girlfriend and her family are hardcore sox fans, and honestly i was happy for them and my friends when the sox won the WS. I think as a yankee fan, experiencing that kind of heartbreak this season kind of tuned you in to what the sox faithful have been going through for a long time.

I respect sox fans who respect me as a knowledgeable baseball fan, and not some bandwagon-hopper who started liking the team in '96. nothing makes me more frustrated than having prove my "worthiness" as a fan.

like was mentioned several times in this thread already, both our fan bases share a similarity that we are so passionate about our teams, and really take it personal when our teams are playing or are topics of discussion. when it comes down to it, it's just a great rivalry, and this season will not be any different.

i wonder if some of our friends at Sons of Sam Horn have browsed this thread yet :D

Yogi's Boy
02-24-05, 07:17 PM
Now maybe a verse of 'Cumbye Ya' from this chorus!:cheer: :clapping: :cheer:

goin for 27
02-24-05, 07:34 PM
Great thread!!

I have several Sox fans as friends, and I find them passionate, gracious, and extremely intelligent fans.

Further, imagine baseball without the Red Sox....

Face it, it is the greatest rivalry in sport. Fans from both teams have something that no other baseball fan has. Don't tell me St Louis/Chicago, or any other rivalry.

This rivalry has now enthralled fans all over the country. WE get to LIVE it.

sharoncass
02-24-05, 07:38 PM
I'd be more concerned about her voice than the man hands. 20 years and 30 pounds from now she's going to have one of those Ethel Merman/Tugboat Annie voices that leaves welts on your eardrums.

Sorry, end of hijack.


True. It looks like her eating on $40.00 a day is catching up to her. ;)

StaceyRosie
02-24-05, 07:41 PM
Boy, this is a tough one--there's just so much to choose from! I'm trying to decide if it's the way they present grounded, cogent arguments to support their points of view, or their sense of decorum and civility-- I mean, the way they went house to house singing gospel songs last fall after they won the ALCS was just awe-inspiring!

I'm not afraid to admit it--Red Sox fans have simply raised the bar to new levels. I think we could learn so much from them, which is why I'm strongly suggesting a fan exchange program. Imagine what one Red Sox fan, spending time with us here in the Tri-State area, could do to help Yankee fans. Man. I get the shivers just thinking about it.

:roflmao: :roflmao:

I needed that laugh.

JeffWeaverFan
02-24-05, 07:51 PM
Boy, this is a tough one--there's just so much to choose from! I'm trying to decide if it's the way they present grounded, cogent arguments to support their points of view, or their sense of decorum and civility-- I mean, the way they went house to house singing gospel songs last fall after they won the ALCS was just awe-inspiring!

I'm not afraid to admit it--Red Sox fans have simply raised the bar to new levels. I think we could learn so much from them, which is why I'm strongly suggesting a fan exchange program. Imagine what one Red Sox fan, spending time with us here in the Tri-State area, could do to help Yankee fans. Man. I get the shivers just thinking about it.
Best first post ever!

son of mel hall
02-24-05, 07:54 PM
Boy, this is a tough one--there's just so much to choose from! I'm trying to decide if it's the way they present grounded, cogent arguments to support their points of view, or their sense of decorum and civility-- I mean, the way they went house to house singing gospel songs last fall after they won the ALCS was just awe-inspiring!

I'm not afraid to admit it--Red Sox fans have simply raised the bar to new levels. I think we could learn so much from them, which is why I'm strongly suggesting a fan exchange program. Imagine what one Red Sox fan, spending time with us here in the Tri-State area, could do to help Yankee fans. Man. I get the shivers just thinking about it.

Making a comeback is one of the most difficult things to do with dignity.
-- Greg Lake

PippyPinstripes
02-24-05, 07:59 PM
Boy, this is a tough one--there's just so much to choose from! I'm trying to decide if it's the way they present grounded, cogent arguments to support their points of view, or their sense of decorum and civility-- I mean, the way they went house to house singing gospel songs last fall after they won the ALCS was just awe-inspiring!

I'm not afraid to admit it--Red Sox fans have simply raised the bar to new levels. I think we could learn so much from them, which is why I'm strongly suggesting a fan exchange program. Imagine what one Red Sox fan, spending time with us here in the Tri-State area, could do to help Yankee fans. Man. I get the shivers just thinking about it.

Cherce :lol: :lol: :lol:

smr15
02-24-05, 08:08 PM
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This sweet syrupy sappy stuff will kill ya dead.

the_coach
02-24-05, 10:01 PM
Before 2004, all Red Sox fans were die-hard, passionate, knowledgeable baseball fans, having stuck with their team through thin-and-thin. ;)

All casual fans would have long left their team (like Met fans...the lowest kind of fan) after experiencing all the heartache the Red Sox fans had.

/Salute

:gulp:

Archer1979
02-24-05, 10:05 PM
Public Service Announcement:

A warning to our members with Diabetes.
Stay out of this thread.
This sweet syrupy sappy stuff will kill ya dead.

I'd also add that reading this thread and then adding to it is similar to drinking a fifth of Schnapps and waking up somewhere strange with half a moustache. It's like "What the #$&& did I do last night... and where are my pants?"

fratboy
02-24-05, 10:33 PM
One of my good friends is a New Yorker, exiled here in Boston, and watched Game 4 of the World Series with me and my rabid Sox fan friends. As Minky caught the final ball, he was seething inside, but congratulated us and encouraged us to revel in the moment. He was truly considerate about the whole thing, but that's the kind of person he is in general anyway.

Regarding Yankee fans in general, your blind passion for your franchise is the equal of ours. Rivalries make things interesting. Just imagine for a second being a fan of the Tigers, Rockies, or Blue Jays.

imagining...

Not so pretty now, is it?

DaBoys4LifeNYY35
02-24-05, 11:01 PM
Before 2004, all Red Sox fans were die-hard, passionate, knowledgeable baseball fans, having stuck with their team through thin-and-thin. ;)
I would hardly call regularly contending "thin-and-thin." :) In fact, I can't say anything about them that I can't also say about hardcore fans of any team I've encountered across both leagues and other sports, EXCEPT that they are more LIKELY to be really knowledgeable than a lot of other fans.

I must also credit most Sox fans I know with opting to revel in their happiness rather than gloat or be obnoxious.

dabomb2045
02-24-05, 11:38 PM
I would hardly call regularly contending "thin-and-thin." :) In fact, I can't say anything about them that I can't also say about hardcore fans of any team I've encountered across both leagues and other sports, EXCEPT that they are more LIKELY to be really knowledgeable than a lot of other fans.

I must also credit most Sox fans I know with opting to revel in their happiness rather than gloat or be obnoxious.


most Sox fans I know gloat constantly....and have non-stop since Sierra grounded out to Pokey Reese to end Game 7

SoxFanXL
02-25-05, 02:42 AM
I like the Yankee fans passion for the game and for their team. I like the fact that they're alot like us Sox fans but they just root for a different team and haven't been through the 86 years of pain. ;)



And like the other guy said up there, i probably wouldn't root for the Sox as hard as i do if the Yankees weren't around. The years of losing to them and then watching them win the championship made it even sweeter when we finally could accomplish what we did last season. The MLB wouldn't be nearly as popular without this great rivalry.

OneilFan21
02-25-05, 03:24 AM
The thing I like most about real Red Sox fans is that you can have a legit baseball conversation with them. Plus, they don't patronize you when you make a point that sounds stupid.

This one guy at my workplace, diehard Sox fan. We kill him every year, and after Boone's HR, the guy didnt stop getting our special photoshop emails for weeks. After the Yanks were up 3-0, the poor guy practically needed earplugs just to get a decent days work in. When they beat us though, the guy was severely apologetic, we thought he would totally nail us, but he was just apologizing half the time. Classy guy, but I'm still gonna bug him when the Sox lose to the yanks this year

Pepper03
02-25-05, 07:40 AM
most Sox fans I know gloat constantly....and have non-stop since Sierra grounded out to Pokey Reese to end Game 7

There is nothing more sickening than an obnoxious sports fan.
I'm sorry you have to deal with fans like that.
Not all of us are so bad. :)

Jersey Yankee
02-25-05, 08:34 AM
The thing I like most about real Red Sox fans is that you can have a legit baseball conversation with them. Plus, they don't patronize you when you make a point that sounds stupid.

This one guy at my workplace, diehard Sox fan. We kill him every year, and after Boone's HR, the guy didnt stop getting our special photoshop emails for weeks. After the Yanks were up 3-0, the poor guy practically needed earplugs just to get a decent days work in. When they beat us though, the guy was severely apologetic, we thought he would totally nail us, but he was just apologizing half the time. Classy guy, but I'm still gonna bug him when the Sox lose to the yanks this yearBe glad it wasn't me. I'd have nailed you!!! :O

Dave Visbeck
02-25-05, 11:48 AM
Yankee fans make VERY GOOD wives... I'd recomend that EVERYONE should have one of their own! :)

nhyankeefan
02-25-05, 11:50 AM
Yankee fans make VERY GOOD wives... I'd recomend that EVERYONE should have one of their own! :)

It's even better when you marry a Sox fan then convert them to the Yankees. :)

Jasbro
02-25-05, 11:55 AM
I respect the loyalty most Sox fans have shown their team over the years.

cubswin
02-25-05, 12:24 PM
It's even better when you marry a Sox fan then convert them to the Yankees. :)


If a person can "convert," were they ever a fan in the first place?

nhyankeefan
02-25-05, 12:45 PM
If a person can "convert," were they ever a fan in the first place?

Sure, I used to be a Knick fan, but after watching them in the late 90's I got sick of them and now root for the Celtics. Regarding my wife, she's not a huge baseball fan, but she does like to watch it from time to time. After spending a lot of time around my family and I she just started rooting for the Yanks. She certainly wasn't a hardcore fan, but she was a fan nonetheless.

HomeBrewRSFan
02-25-05, 01:53 PM
I married a Yankee fan that watched them through the 80's with her grandfather. I have great discussions about baseball in general with my Mother in Law who can give me crap about the Sox as well as she can receive it.

NDBoston
02-25-05, 02:11 PM
Yankee fans make VERY GOOD wives... I'd recomend that EVERYONE should have one of their own! :)

Are the kids Red Sox or Yankee fans?

justind
02-25-05, 02:34 PM
the yanks fans i am friends with all share a deep passion for the sport of baseball that only seems to come out en masse on the east coast.
knowledgable fans and always willing to buy you a beer (even when the sox are winning).
also, all of them that gave me crap for years have been very gracious about me giving it back. :D

sox jedi 14
02-25-05, 02:44 PM
Sure, I used to be a Knick fan, but after watching them in the late 90's I got sick of them and now root for the Celtics. Regarding my wife, she's not a huge baseball fan, but she does like to watch it from time to time. After spending a lot of time around my family and I she just started rooting for the Yanks. She certainly wasn't a hardcore fan, but she was a fan nonetheless.

I'm sick of the Knicks too. But then again, I'm sick of the entire Atlantic Division. I need a team to adopt me.

Hildy910
02-25-05, 02:56 PM
Bruce Springsteen is a Yankees fan, and yet he was more than gracious about how cool Fenway was when he played there in 2003. Too bad all his talk of exorcising the ghosts wasn't *quite* accurate for that year... :)

To be honest, I don't know too many Yankees fans other than my sister in law, who has been very polite about the whole thing. She and her uncle, also a diehard Yankees fan, had to sit through a Christmas filled with Red Sox/World Series-related DVDS, books, jewelry, etc. And not one peep of trash talk from them. It was kind of them to let us have a little glory time in peace.

And reading these boards has given me great insight into the Yankees, and what's cool about them. It's helped me respect the team more, for which I thank you all.

Dooley Womack
02-25-05, 03:12 PM
I'm sick of the Knicks too. But then again, I'm sick of the entire Atlantic Division. I need a team to adopt me.
I know you're a Sox fan from NY, but were you one prior to attending BU? Also, are you a Mets fan as well? It seems that there are a number of Mets fans in NY who root for the Sox, if only because they passionately hate the Yanks.

Dave Visbeck
02-25-05, 03:37 PM
Are the kids Red Sox or Yankee fans?

Psst.... quiet... look around, it's got to be kept :eek: a secret. No one has to no the truth. Understand?

Dave Visbeck
02-25-05, 03:43 PM
Are the kids Red Sox or Yankee fans?

As for the kids... the score is Boston 4 1/2 to New York 1 1/2.
I have the little "Hex-Buster"... don't you know?"

Ohhhh... the stories I could tell you about Fred Lynn and the 1975 season in particular. :D

Jenn6812
02-26-05, 01:40 AM
As for the kids... the score is Boston 4 1/2 to New York 1 1/2.
I have the little "Hex-Buster"... don't you know?"

Ohhhh... the stories I could tell you about Fred Lynn and the 1975 season in particular. :D

He's wrong about the kids. They are 2 and one half Yankee fans and three and one half Red Sox! :)

YankeePride1967
02-26-05, 11:22 AM
Didn't notice that. Didn't mean to get preachy. I do want to let you folks know, though, that I will run like I was on fire at the first hint of a group hug. :)

Same here, After the crap from the Sox comments about A-Rod, I thought it would be a good time to take a very loose thread like this just to take a breathe of air.

Archer1979
02-26-05, 11:47 AM
Same here, After the crap from the Sox comments about A-Rod, I thought it would be a good time to take a very loose thread like this just to take a breathe of air.


Part of my problem is that I type too slow. Three posts went up between the time I started typing and when I actually posted so I missed the post that pointed out it was a joke.

Yogi's Boy
02-26-05, 12:00 PM
This comment is why we occasionally need threads like this, to put it all in perspective. I've only belonged to this board for about a week and a half, and I can honestly say that most of you serve your team proudly. If I ever get a chance to see the Sox in Yankee Stadium, I'd have no problem sitting in the same section as you.

We'd all welcome you!
Don't forget to wear your Super Bowl Champion Patriot's helmet if you decide to attend!:eek:

RedRooster
02-27-05, 03:40 PM
I only know a handful of Yankees fans personally, and unfortunately almost all belong in the "obnoxious sports fan" category. (Don't get me started about my father-in-law.) I don't make generalizations from such a small sample size, and I don't trust the images I get from the media. But I do remember this:

Top of the ninth, Game 5, 2001 World Series. Yankees look like they're going down 3-2 in games. And the camera is shaking from the cries of "PAUL-O-NE-ILL" from the Stadium crowd.

Had to tip my BoSox cap to Yankee fans at that moment.

Bluesexy's daddy
02-27-05, 04:17 PM
Unlike so many Dodgers fans most of them manage to show up prior to the first pitch and don't mistake the seventh inning stretch as an urgent reason to leave during a close game. They do at least know who is playing the game. AS YANKEES and Sox fans we take this for granted but at many stadiums you wonder if a large percentage of people showed up because they got lost on the way to the mall and parked in the wrong lot.

RootN4Rocket
02-27-05, 08:19 PM
Yankee fans make VERY GOOD wives... I'd recomend that EVERYONE should have one of their own! :)


Intersportal marriages never work. ;)

Potfry
02-28-05, 12:30 PM
Glad you guys liked my reply.

For more of my take on the Yankee-Red Sox rivalry (and yes, it is Yankee-biased), visit my blog- http://www.potfry.blogspot.com

Let me know what you think...

Sandman K's Nosemar
02-28-05, 05:12 PM
I went to school in Boston and spent the first 3 years of my professional life in Boston after graduation before finally moving back to New York. In that time (92-99), I could see the Fenway lights from my apartment and attended 15 or so games every season. I saw as many Yankee games as I could but would go out to Fenway anytime tix came my way. I had two college buddies that bartended at the Cask N Flagon and most of my Boston based friends were Sox fans. My point is, I spent a ton of time in and around Fenway and Sox fans. What I enjoyed most was the back & forth. I never had a bad time at Fenway and could always find a good baseball conversation with fans that were as passionate about their team and the game as I was.

That was not easy to write because last October is still too fresh in my memory...and so are the 42 voicemails I had the day after game 7.

Dave Visbeck
03-19-05, 06:37 PM
I can say so many nice things about the Yankee fans I know personally... and here of course. I married one that I met on a Yankee forum! :D We even flip back and forth between Yankee/Red Sox games against other opponents when they are on at the same time on different channels... on our dish! Did you notice I put the Yankees first? ;)

I'm glad to be here to share knowledge with you knowledgeable Yankee fans. I like reading all your stories and about the bonds we share in baseball. I remember each and every day that YOU have all the championships and we have a few... that's fine with me... however I do want more in the years to come!:eek: :D

The people here are nice. We do have some common interests in life... and life goes on - spring comes around once again every year - and the fun begins anew. :D

I think I'll post something about just one of my Yankee Forum friends that treated this Red Sox fan very nice... early on in past days... :)

NelsonMuntz
03-20-05, 04:09 PM
The one thing I absolutely love about Red Sox fans is their passion for baseball and loyalty to the Sox. I loved the fact that prior to the Red Sox winning the World Series last year, Boston fans could care less that the Patriots won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls. All they truely cared about was the Red Sox winning a World Series. You won't find that type of loyalty to one team in too many other cities. Most fans will jump on the bandwagon of whichever team in their city is having the best run (e.g., in Philadalphia, everyone suddenly becomes a huge Sixers fan if they are having a good year but the Phillies and Eagles are having down years. As soon as the Sixers start to slide, everyone suddenly becomes huge Flyer fan, or whichever team is having the better season).

ojo
03-20-05, 08:58 PM
summer of 95 i went to fenway to catch the yanks and sox play a 3 game set. actually, the tickets were a gift from dave eiland, who was a spot starter for NY that year....back then i worked with his sister back in tampa....

anyway, the day before the series started mickey mantle died. in some type of tribute i'd taken chalk and wrote a '7' on the back of my yankees lid for that game. received a few 'well-wishing' comments from some sox fans.

anyway - before the game it came over the PA that there'd be a moment of silence for the passing of mickey mantle. the place fell mute. i couldn't hear a word. it was a truly POWERFUL moment in time.

about 10 seconds pass....somebody shouts:

'WE LOVE YOU MICK!'

and then a few more seconds go by and a different voice shouts:

'WE ALL DO!'






that's respect right there. ;)

smr15
03-20-05, 09:01 PM
summer of 95 i went to fenway to catch the yanks and sox play a 3 game set. actually, the tickets were a gift from dave eiland, who was a spot starter for NY that year....back then i worked with his sister back in tampa....

anyway, the day before the series started mickey mantle died. in some type of tribute i'd taken chalk and wrote a '7' on the back of my yankees lid for that game. received a few 'well-wishing' comments from some sox fans.

anyway - before the game it came over the PA that there'd be a moment of silence for the passing of mickey mantle. the place fell mute. i couldn't hear a word. it was a truly POWERFUL moment in time.

about 10 seconds pass....somebody shouts:

'WE LOVE YOU MICK!'

and then a few more seconds go by and a different voice shouts:

'WE ALL DO!'






that's respect right there. ;)
Ok. That story right here was the one that put me over the line, and I am now ready to acknowledge that Red Sox fans might be alright after all.

ojo
03-20-05, 09:04 PM
true story i swear!! i had a tear in my eye cuz well it was mickey mantle we were 'silent' for....and then such an olive branch. oh man. :o ther'es NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!!!

Archer1979
03-20-05, 09:07 PM
Ok. That story right here was the one that put me over the line, and I am now ready to acknowledge that Red Sox fans might be alright after all.


We're not evil. We just root for a different team guys.

I was seriously distraught when Thurman Munson died. It just didn't seem right to feel otherwise.

When Dimaggio passed, same way.

With the exception of a select few, beneath the contempt, there's respect.

yankeesfaninaz
03-20-05, 09:54 PM
That was an awesome story about the Mantle tribute. It tells me that not all of the Redsox fans are bad. Im glad to hear something like that.

FreeYayo
03-20-05, 09:58 PM
I like Yankee fans
They are the same as Red Sox fans (except they can pronounce the letter "R")

Why hate the fans?
Hate the team!

What's ANSKY?
03-21-05, 12:47 PM
If I lived in New England I would be proud as hell to be a BoSox fans. 86 years would not deter the fact that the BoSox have had some incredible teams in the past. The current BoSox teams are scary as hell and always make me nervous.

Dave Visbeck
04-03-05, 08:34 PM
:( Well... as I sit here now, the Yankees are leading the Red Sox 4 to 1. Just wanted to say that my wife is a Yankee fan and I know a lot of GREAT Yankee fans on NYYfans Forum that are wishing for the same end result for this season. All I can say is good luck to you... and you're off to a good start right now. Maybe all of your ending wishes will come true after the season... but then again... maybe not.

Just here wishing all of you an enjoyable Baseball Spring, Summer, and partial Fall. :D ;)
I just hope it isn't someone like the Mets taking home the trophy in the end. :eek:

Pepper03
04-04-05, 07:57 AM
I second that emotion.
I've met alot of great Yankee fans here, it is making it kind of hard to hate the Yankees as much as I used to. :eek:
My daughter (7) does not understand why I go to a Yankees forum and not a Red Sox one-I guess alot of you might not get it either. Answer for me-I really like hearing what The Empire is thinking, plus there are alot of like-minded people on here with me on so many other issues.
Good luck to you this season, I hope we can all remain friends through whatever the season brings.

StatenIslandYankee
04-04-05, 08:09 AM
Sox fans have some hot chicks in Fenway. :D

StatenIslandYankee
04-04-05, 08:12 AM
I only know a handful of Yankees fans personally, and unfortunately almost all belong in the "obnoxious sports fan" category. (Don't get me started about my father-in-law.) I don't make generalizations from such a small sample size, and I don't trust the images I get from the media. But I do remember this:

Top of the ninth, Game 5, 2001 World Series. Yankees look like they're going down 3-2 in games. And the camera is shaking from the cries of "PAUL-O-NE-ILL" from the Stadium crowd.

Had to tip my BoSox cap to Yankee fans at that moment.
GOD, I miss Paulie :(

Dave Visbeck
04-04-05, 06:16 PM
Sox fans have some hot chicks in Fenway. :D

:eek: Where.... and in what section? :eek:

Dave Visbeck
04-04-05, 06:18 PM
:D ;) There are a lot of people that will agree with you. :)

Dave Visbeck
04-04-05, 06:21 PM
:D However.... I'm already married to a hot chick... :ga-ga: ... and my Jenn is a Yankee Fan! :o :D

YankeePride1967
01-02-06, 07:40 PM
I thought given some of the conversation in the Red Sox forum today I thought this would be a good time to re-surrect this thread. Again, only thing I ask is don't turn this into another bitch-fest. This is a thread to ONLY list what you as a fan of one team respect and admire about the other team.

Dr. Gonzo
01-02-06, 07:41 PM
they are not met fans?

Archer1979
01-02-06, 08:01 PM
I thought given some of the conversation in the Red Sox forum today I thought this would be a good time to re-surrect this thread. Again, only thing I ask is don't turn this into another bitch-fest. This is a thread to ONLY list what you as a fan of one team respect and admire about the other team.

I'm pretty sure that if any of you bit me, that there's a vaccine to cover it.

Jersey Yankee
01-02-06, 08:01 PM
I thought given some of the conversation in the Red Sox forum today I thought this would be a good time to re-surrect this thread. Again, only thing I ask is don't turn this into another bitch-fest. This is a thread to ONLY list what you as a fan of one team respect and admire about the other team.
Ya mean we actually have to say nice things about those people? Not even one itty bitty cheesy remark can go their way? :gulp::D

MiamiKat
01-02-06, 08:01 PM
Quite a few of my relatives are Red Sox fans, and aside from that they're pretty good people.

DandyAndy46
01-02-06, 09:47 PM
A number of my co-workers are Sox fans which is very painful....for the most part I find that the only difference between us is which kool-ade we chose to drink...they love their team, I love the Yankees...the only difference is my opinion is correct and their's isn't j/k....seriously though, the important thing is that we are all baseball fans...as much as I cannot stand the Sox (I dislike the players more than the fans) as a baseball fan I had to watch all of the '04 World Series because it was a historically significant BASEBALL event...and so I tip my cap to all Baseball fans everywhere (even in Boston :) )

Hitman23
01-03-06, 11:51 AM
I have always said this about Sox fans:
No matter how bad or heartbreaking it got, they remained fans. And I respect that.

BronxByTheBay
01-03-06, 11:53 AM
I always thought NDBoston and Archer were morons.

oh wait - what's this thread called again?

Oh.

Sam18
01-03-06, 11:58 AM
I always thought NDBoston and Archer were morons.

oh wait - what's this thread called again?

Oh.

Nah ND's pretty cool.

Dooley Womack
01-03-06, 12:14 PM
I love sox fans. They are very diverse in taste and style. I prefer good quality socks from makers like Pantherella that are a bit more expensive but well worth it for the comfort and durability they provide. I can even deal with the geeks who favor argyle socks as long as they keep their distance.

In short, I have no trouble whatsoever with sox fans, for I am one myself.

IncredibleByNature
01-03-06, 12:21 PM
I love sox fans. They are very diverse in taste and style. I prefer good quality socks from makers like Pantherella that are a bit more expensive but well worth it for the comfort and durability they provide. I can even deal with the geeks who favor argyle socks as long as they keep their distance.

In short, I have no trouble whatsoever with sox fans, for I am one myself.

:lol:

Praise for Sox fans? Archer and Dave are 2 very cool Red Sox fans.

RobRiv
01-03-06, 01:40 PM
I'm friendly with a few Red Sox fans who are mild-mannered, reasonable, and knowledgeable baseball fans when they're not blaming tsunamis, earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, avalanches, tornadoes, wars, terrorism, murder, cancer, heart disease, teen pregnancies, alcohol and drug addiction, high taxes, and all earthly sins on the New York Yankees.

Archer1979
01-03-06, 01:46 PM
I'm friendly with a few Red Sox fans who are mild-mannered, reasonable, and knowledgeable baseball fans when they're not blaming tsunamis, earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, avalanches, tornadoes, wars, terrorism, murder, cancer, heart disease, teen pregnancies, alcohol and drug addiction, high taxes, and all earthly sins on the New York Yankees.

Is there a reason you left out disco?

Hildy910
01-03-06, 01:52 PM
Is there a reason you left out disco?


I thought Disco was demolished on July 12, 1979. We can hardly blame New York for that one.


I think I have mentioned before that my SIL is a Yankees fan. My brother was agitating for a BoSox ornament for the Xmas tree this year, but I decided to be fair and equitable, and they got a Sox ornament AND a Yankees ornament. She was tickled pink. Brother was less so. I think that my continued exposure to the funny and knowlegeable folks here has been a big plus. So, thanks!

Sam18
01-03-06, 02:02 PM
I love sox fans. They are very diverse in taste and style. I prefer good quality socks from makers like Pantherella that are a bit more expensive but well worth it for the comfort and durability they provide. I can even deal with the geeks who favor argyle socks as long as they keep their distance.

In short, I have no trouble whatsoever with sox fans, for I am one myself.

I don't even know who you are anymore.

RobRiv
01-03-06, 02:13 PM
Is there a reason you left out disco?

My bad. How could I forget disco when listing all the other natural and man-made disasters?

AndyLam
01-03-06, 03:43 PM
I worked with a woman who was (and is) a huge Yankees fan. She and I went to games at Fenway and at Yankee Stadium. Though the teams were different, our love of the game was the same and we always had lots of fun. I still remember walking from the Javitz to Central Park to meet another friend before heading to an ALDS game back in 99 - long walk.

Also, at the end of the day, we're all from the northeast and have more in common then we differ.

AL

Roctiz
01-03-06, 04:19 PM
I worked with a woman who was (and is) a huge Yankees fan. She and I went to games at Fenway and at Yankee Stadium. Though the teams were different, our love of the game was the same and we always had lots of fun. I still remember walking from the Javitz to Central Park to meet another friend before heading to an ALDS game back in 99 - long walk.

Also, at the end of the day, we're all from the northeast and have more in common then we differ.

AL

My Uncle is a Yankee fan that couldn't come out of the closet until my grandfather past away. He is in his early 60's and recalls the day when he was a boy and made the dreadful mistake of saying to his Dad before watching a game on TV, he couldn't wait to see the Yankees crush the Red Sox. Problem: Red Sox stunk, but they lived in Somerville/Boston since European immigration. My grandfather told him if he ever said anything like that again, he'd NEVER take him to a game as long as he lived. He lived a double life from then on. When he finally came out of the "Yankee closet" to us, all I could think about was all the Red Sox presents and talks I had had with him. Now, he is perhaps my favorite person to talk baseball with still...6 years into my knowledge of this secret lifestyle. He was always a genuine baseball fan and he and I agree with eachother about players on both sides of the rivalry and don't EVER trash talk or rub one team in the other's face. (only person) He, like all TRUE Yankee fans loves that team, it's history, it's Aura. I respect that. We went to game 6 of ALCS together...I was only brave enough to wear a red sox hat...he wore his custom made yankees jersey that said nineteen where the name went and 18 for a number. It was a great time making the trip, two baseball lovers on opposite sides with deep rooted feelings, but because of the family bond, able to respect it. I love to hate the Yankees, but deep, way deep, there is an admiration of certain players(Mo, Jeter), their history, and even the fans that I don't let out, but it's there.

NYYBombshell
01-03-06, 04:24 PM
My father is the only Sox fan I know off this board.

So, I like my dad because he hasn't done anything to make me not like him.....that I know of.



Yeah, I'll just reiterate what I said when this was first started.

NYYBombshell
01-03-06, 04:26 PM
I love sox fans. They are very diverse in taste and style. I prefer good quality socks from makers like Pantherella that are a bit more expensive but well worth it for the comfort and durability they provide. I can even deal with the geeks who favor argyle socks as long as they keep their distance.

In short, I have no trouble whatsoever with sox fans, for I am one myself.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

yankeesrule2000
01-03-06, 04:50 PM
I have always said this about Sox fans:
No matter how bad or heartbreaking it got, they remained fans. And I respect that.

That's kind of like being a knick fan :)

Arod for President
01-03-06, 06:11 PM
I live in Boston and when people find out Im a Yankee Fan they give me a wrath of Sh*t but then I tell them Im also a Buffalo Bills fan, and all the Patriots fans come out and have a little compassion gor me :)

Blokee
01-03-06, 06:33 PM
Red Sox fans are about as die hard as they come in general and you have to respect fans who stick with a team despite so much bad luck etc... for the best part of a century!

Casey37
01-03-06, 07:16 PM
Yankee fans make VERY GOOD wives... I'd recomend that EVERYONE should have one of their own! :)



I wish I could....my wife's a Mets fan... :-notfunny

Rice14
01-03-06, 10:15 PM
My brother-in-law and my best friend are both Yankee fans and they were both among the first people to call me and offer congratulations when the Red Sox won the WS. They were also pretty respectful and cool about not rubbing in the ALCS in 2003. I appreciated our friendships rising above the rivalry.

cubhater
01-03-06, 10:39 PM
I thought Disco was demolished on July 12, 1979. We can hardly blame New York for that one.

The demise started on that date! :gulp:


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page3/story?page=behrens/040809

MaDR
01-04-06, 12:45 AM
Now that's class!

Even though I'm not a Boston or Yankee fan, let me chime in with some positives...

I respect your passion for both of your teams. Yankee fans, you have the greatest dynasty in sports and are some of the most knowledgeable fans I've encountered at games. Red Sox fans, I applaud you for sticking through all the heartbreaks over the years. Even though my White Sox never came so close yet so far as you guys, I can't imagine the pain you endured until last season. I only pray that they come through and win it all sometime in my lifetime.

posted by cubhater on feb. 2005 :)

I guess praying is key. Start praying people.

cubhater
01-04-06, 07:26 AM
posted by cubhater on feb. 2005 :)

I guess praying is key. Start praying people.

Never underestimate the power of prayer! :)

shutout
01-06-06, 05:52 AM
I don't 'hate' Boston. I think we, Yankees fans, should just focus on our own team, not on the competition. In essence: I give crap about what the BoSox do - as long as the Yankees are winning ;)

I know some great Boston fans. Even some real intelligent ones. The few I know are very knowledgeable.