Red Sox Fans Have Finally Gone COMPLETELY INSANE

[barrybaseball]

Yeah, I know...kind of a redundant statement, but over the last week or so I've been pouring over posts at Sons of Sam Horn...CRAP, these guys should be popping out of a clock at the top of every hour.

First, there's the A-Rod trade, and according to most Sox fans this isn't that "big" a gain for us because he's only "a little better" than Soriano. That's funny...they were willing, pleading, hoping to replace No-Hit at short with A-Rod just a few months ago. Now Alfonso Soriano is basically his equal.

Next, we have their diehard belief that their team will win. NOTHING wrong with that at all...that's the point of being a fan. When you base your belief, however, on the "fact" that the Yankee rotation will "break down", then you're heading into delusional territory. They keep basing their predictions on someone in the Yankee staff getting injured...well, great - we can play that game all day long. So what if Pedro goes down? Schilling? Hey, what about Foulke...he could get struck by lightening...y'never know. Bottom line is that its just beyond dopey to base your hopes on injuries to the other team. ESPECIALLY when your ace weighs about 30 lbs and is obviously running out of gas.

Suddenly, by the way, the Yankees are made up of nothing but egos and there's no chemistry blah blah blah. Riiiight - I'll make the sox fans a deal: when you DON'T have people like Manny and Pedro playing for you, and a disgruntled No-Hit...you get permission to discuss clubhouse chemistry.

I guess its not completely their fault. They had what they thought was a great off-season right up until the moment the Yankees out-classed them yet again and acquired A-rod. Look at John Henry's comments - clearly the stuff of someone not thinking straight. Sure, I too stay awake at night wondering how such a "small-market" team like the Red Sox can stay competitive with the Yankees. It really sucks being able to afford only young, unproven talent like Curt Schilling, Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez, and No-Hit Garciaparra. I'm tired of all the small-market crap as it is, but nothing makes me more ill than the owner of THE BOSTON RED SOX basically throwing a temper tantrum because the Yanks were able to pull the trigger on a trade while his organization did what it ALWAYS does: choke when it counts.

I also notice Sox fans have taken to calling Jeter, dismissively, "Captain Intangibles", no doubt in reference to the argument that Jeter's considered one of the best shortstops on something other than stats. Well, yeah - DUH. Jeter's got 4 Championship rings, has proven time and again he may be the biggest clutch player in the game and no honest baseball fan would ever say they'd prefer No-Hit at the plate in a pressure situation over Jeter. So for all you Sox fans, that's MR. Captain Intagibles where you're concerned.

So here's to this year - hopefully our team will give Red Sox fans even MORE to go insane over.

[Buzah!]

Who cares what they think?

[pacewon]

Originally posted by barrybaseball
I've been pouring over posts at Sons of Sam Horn...

That is the problem right there

[NoVa YankeeFan]

I've found the best way to deal with Sux fans is to keep your mouth shut when we win, and ignore them 100% of the time. Take the high road, it infuriates them even more.


I watched Game 7 of the ALCS with 2 die hard Sox fans from Rhodie. When Boone hit the home run I got up, walked out of the house, and went home, and only then screamed my lungs out in joy.

[Zimmers' Helmet]

"1918", " Babe Ruth", "Bucky F'n Dent" are all effective jabs which usually get Sux fans worked up in a lather, but throw in an "Aaron Bleepin' Boone" for an uppercut and then "A-Rod" for your knockout punch and it will usually buy you 5 minutes of silence before they recuperate from blowing a gasket. :)

[JeffWeaverFan]

Originally posted by Buzah!
Who cares what they think?
Exactly. I also was curious to see what they were saying after we got A-Rod and was pretty amused by their comments. Didn't really bother me because I thought it would be funny when they have to realize that they were wrong. It also made me think how much more objective we are here at nyyfans.com then they are at SOSH. Some of them were smart enough to realize that we are still a very good team but most of them just did not want to face the facts.

[Bosox Guy in Chitown]

Originally posted by barrybaseball
Yeah, I know...kind of a redundant statement, but over the last week or so I've been pouring over posts at Sons of Sam Horn...CRAP, these guys should be popping out of a clock at the top of every hour.

First, there's the A-Rod trade, and according to most Sox fans this isn't that "big" a gain for us because he's only "a little better" than Soriano. That's funny...they were willing, pleading, hoping to replace No-Hit at short with A-Rod just a few months ago. Now Alfonso Soriano is basically his equal.

Next, we have their diehard belief that their team will win. NOTHING wrong with that at all...that's the point of being a fan. When you base your belief, however, on the "fact" that the Yankee rotation will "break down", then you're heading into delusional territory. They keep basing their predictions on someone in the Yankee staff getting injured...well, great - we can play that game all day long. So what if Pedro goes down? Schilling? Hey, what about Foulke...he could get struck by lightening...y'never know. Bottom line is that its just beyond dopey to base your hopes on injuries to the other team. ESPECIALLY when your ace weighs about 30 lbs and is obviously running out of gas.

Suddenly, by the way, the Yankees are made up of nothing but egos and there's no chemistry blah blah blah. Riiiight - I'll make the sox fans a deal: when you DON'T have people like Manny and Pedro playing for you, and a disgruntled No-Hit...you get permission to discuss clubhouse chemistry.

I guess its not completely their fault. They had what they thought was a great off-season right up until the moment the Yankees out-classed them yet again and acquired A-rod. Look at John Henry's comments - clearly the stuff of someone not thinking straight. Sure, I too stay awake at night wondering how such a "small-market" team like the Red Sox can stay competitive with the Yankees. It really sucks being able to afford only young, unproven talent like Curt Schilling, Manny Ramirez, Pedro Martinez, and No-Hit Garciaparra. I'm tired of all the small-market crap as it is, but nothing makes me more ill than the owner of THE BOSTON RED SOX basically throwing a temper tantrum because the Yanks were able to pull the trigger on a trade while his organization did what it ALWAYS does: choke when it counts.

I also notice Sox fans have taken to calling Jeter, dismissively, "Captain Intangibles", no doubt in reference to the argument that Jeter's considered one of the best shortstops on something other than stats. Well, yeah - DUH. Jeter's got 4 Championship rings, has proven time and again he may be the biggest clutch player in the game and no honest baseball fan would ever say they'd prefer No-Hit at the plate in a pressure situation over Jeter. So for all you Sox fans, that's MR. Captain Intagibles where you're concerned.

So here's to this year - hopefully our team will give Red Sox fans even MORE to go insane over.

Seems JonahFalcon has found his way back to the board.

I don't think MOST Red Sox fans are dismissive of the Yankees acquisition of A-Rod. Do both sides spin things to their favor and view the other with a partisan slant? Sure.

Simply put: both "sides" have a fair share of honest fans as well as knee-jerk partisans. I've seen a large number of Yankee fans post that Schilling doesn't really help Boston - that's no less delusional than Sox fans downplaying A-Rod to the Yanks.

[derekjeter916]

Nah, barrybaseball...they always were.

[Box326]

Originally posted by JeffWeaverFan

Exactly. I also was curious to see what they were saying after we got A-Rod and was pretty amused by their comments. Didn't really bother me because I thought it would be funny when they have to realize that they were wrong. It also made me think how much more objective we are here at nyyfans.com then they are at SOSH. Some of them were smart enough to realize that we are still a very good team but most of them just did not want to face the facts.

I had never read a single post at SoSH before today, and after perusing the 62 or so pages of post on the A-Rod trade, I can honestly say I'll never read another post over there again.

It was good for a laugh, but disturbing at how venomous and bitter the average guy is. The term "MFY's" (MotherBleepin'Yankees??) is pretty famous over there.

Still, like here, there were a handful of guys (NDBoston, OilCan others I didn't know...) who had good intelligent things to say. I wasn't expecting to read 2000 posts of rejoicing, but I was surprised to see some of the things I read.

If any one area frustrated me, it was the average SoSHer's **complete** lack of respect for there being any talent at all in the Yankee pitching staff, including starters and releivers. They seem to be convinced that their staff will utterly *trounce* ours. :rolleyes:

My personal favorites are the threads where they'd break down the Yankee pitchers vs Boston pitchers. Nearly all of them I read had rated Byun Hyun Kim above *whomever* the Yankees fifth starter is. And since when does Derek Lowe beat the Yankees regularly??

Am I the only one that thinks Kim will *never* get a Yankee out in a big spot? Ever? Even the most staunch supporter of Red footwear can see that right??

Whatever...it was a pretty funny 30 minutes I spent over there, and I'm sure they come in here and laugh at us too.

[BillBuckner]

The best advice I can give anyone is to just let it go. I know how annoying they are, but its best just to ignore them. It's completely pointless trying to have a rational baseball argument with them because no matter how many facts you throw at them, all they're going to come back with is their bull$hit opinion. For example lets take the favorite rallying cry for both sides... "1918" is a fact. "Yankees Suck!", is an opinion.

[Yankees Empire]

The nicknames Red Sox people have for the Yankees and their players over on SoSH make things like "Nosemar" and "Red Sux" seem like nothing at all. Such venom and vitriol over there.

I've been to SoSH three times in all. Three times too many.

[BoSoxGirl75]

"The term "MFY's" (MotherBleepin'Yankees??) is pretty famous over there."

some Yankee fans call the Sox:
"Red Sux"
"Nosemar"

some Sox fans call the Yankees:
MFY
Yankee s*ck

These are just what SOME fans say. Obviously I'm a Sox fan but wouldn't you aree that this works BOTH ways? Fans of both teams talk trash. Is it right or wrong? who am I to answer that. It is obvious that if it aggravates you so much, then why bother reading what they post at SoSH? I'm a Sox fan yet I come here to see what some of you have to say, you don't see me complaining about every time I see "Red Sux." Ok granted I partially don't have a right as I'm the one coming over to enemy territory, but I really see all of this as a non issue.

At the Sox board where I post there are quite a few Yankee fans who are awesome posters and I love the discussion they add to the board. Yet once in awhile there are the Yankee fans who will come and troll and add nothing. The fact is that Sox fans are the same exact way. There are good Sox fans (I'll include myself in this category ;)) but then there are the Sox trolls as well. So instead of arguing about the trolls from both teams why don't we just all get back to having some good arguments/discussion amongst each other. :)

[BleacherBum]

You have to understand the sports euphoria in Boston right now to understand much of the emotion. Last year was rough, we had a great team with another piss poor ending for the books. Then we watched the Pats win the Superbowl with a very classy (chemistry or whatever) team that was largerly dissed by the national media until the very end.

In New England's eyes this was a terrifically heroic effort. Nobody, looks at the Yankees (except NY Fans) and feels legitimate hope "they can pull it off." The cliche goes "Everyone loves the underdog."

How happy could NY possibly be with another World Series victory?

Not that I now that feeling...

[pacewon]

Originally posted by BleacherBum
How happy could NY possibly be with another World Series victory?


As happy as you would be if the Sox finally won one

[jojos_2]

Originally posted by BleacherBum


How happy could NY possibly be with another World Series victory?



Winning the WS NEVER gets old. :) IMHO.

[OilCan]

We're just a wacky bunch of nutcases up here. ;)

[cubswin]

Originally posted by BoSoxGirl75
"The term "MFY's" (MotherBleepin'Yankees??) is pretty famous over there."

some Yankee fans call the Sox:
"Red Sux"
"Nosemar"

some Sox fans call the Yankees:
MFY
Yankee s*ck

These are just what SOME fans say. Obviously I'm a Sox fan but wouldn't you aree that this works BOTH ways? Fans of both teams talk trash. Is it right or wrong? who am I to answer that. It is obvious that if it aggravates you so much, then why bother reading what they post at SoSH? I'm a Sox fan yet I come here to see what some of you have to say, you don't see me complaining about every time I see "Red Sux." Ok granted I partially don't have a right as I'm the one coming over to enemy territory, but I really see all of this as a non issue.

At the Sox board where I post there are quite a few Yankee fans who are awesome posters and I love the discussion they add to the board. Yet once in awhile there are the Yankee fans who will come and troll and add nothing. The fact is that Sox fans are the same exact way. There are good Sox fans (I'll include myself in this category ;)) but then there are the Sox trolls as well. So instead of arguing about the trolls from both teams why don't we just all get back to having some good arguments/discussion amongst each other. :)


Good post, bosoxgirl. I was going to say about the same thing once I got finished reading these. The notion that Sox fans have cornered the market in vitriol, irrationality and hypocrisy can be refuted simply by reading many -- not necessarily a majority, and certainly not all -- posts here.

[cubswin]

Originally posted by pacewon

As happy as you would be if the Sox finally won one


Actually, pacewon, I think you know that isn't true -- just like the notion that Yanks fans won't enjoy another all that much is clearly wrong.

[barrybaseball]

Originally posted by Bosox Guy in Chitown


Seems JonahFalcon has found his way back to the board.




Ummm...I have NO idea who you're referring to, but why don't you wait and read some more posts from me before jumping to some conclusion. Thanks for playing.

[barrybaseball]

Originally posted by Box326


I had never read a single post at SoSH before today, and after perusing the 62 or so pages of post on the A-Rod trade, I can honestly say I'll never read another post over there again.

It was good for a laugh, but disturbing at how venomous and bitter the average guy is. The term "MFY's" (MotherBleepin'Yankees??) is pretty famous over there.

Still, like here, there were a handful of guys (NDBoston, OilCan others I didn't know...) who had good intelligent things to say. I wasn't expecting to read 2000 posts of rejoicing, but I was surprised to see some of the things I read.

If any one area frustrated me, it was the average SoSHer's **complete** lack of respect for there being any talent at all in the Yankee pitching staff, including starters and releivers. They seem to be convinced that their staff will utterly *trounce* ours. :rolleyes:

My personal favorites are the threads where they'd break down the Yankee pitchers vs Boston pitchers. Nearly all of them I read had rated Byun Hyun Kim above *whomever* the Yankees fifth starter is. And since when does Derek Lowe beat the Yankees regularly??

Am I the only one that thinks Kim will *never* get a Yankee out in a big spot? Ever? Even the most staunch supporter of Red footwear can see that right??

Whatever...it was a pretty funny 30 minutes I spent over there, and I'm sure they come in here and laugh at us too.

Yes, but by and large I think the difference is that even their "serious fans" have the same mindset as their whackjob fans. They honestly believe they're this small market club competing against the big, bad city team. They really think of themselves as David to our Goliath when in reality they're more Goliath vs. Goliath.

I just found it amusing at first, then somewhat psychotic as I kept reading. Facsinating stuff, all the same.

[Nettles dfw]

Originally posted by BoSoxGirl75
"The term "MFY's" (MotherBleepin'Yankees??) is pretty famous over there."

some Yankee fans call the Sox:
"Red Sux"
"Nosemar"

some Sox fans call the Yankees:
MFY
Yankee s*ck

These are just what SOME fans say. Obviously I'm a Sox fan but wouldn't you aree that this works BOTH ways? Fans of both teams talk trash. Is it right or wrong? who am I to answer that
...
Not a big deal, but
1) It is my understanding that MFY is a pretty mainstream term on Sosh (in a small sample test :) )
2) I think MFY is a little worse than Red Sux (think about what age a child/young adult would have to be before you would say either phrase in front of them).
Again, not a big deal, but I wouldn't write off MFY as being a product of just "some" Sox fans (in the context of the Sosh comments the thread starter posted).

[NoVa YankeeFan]

Sox are pathetic.

Sox fans are even more pathetic.

Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..

Impossible.

Sox= Pathetic.

[cubswin]

Originally posted by NoVa YankeeFan
...Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..

Impossible...


Actually, that's pretty far off.

[yanquis1972]

Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..

"jeter's ass has SO been sagging since '01, and posada, well dont even get me started! you'd almost think HE had the babies in that family. and as for contreras, have you SEEN the way he dresses out of uniform? i know cuba's backwards and all but it's not 1954 anymore, HELLO?? that pimp suit kind of turned me on, though..."

[chanman7483]

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

[northern]

Originally posted by NoVa YankeeFan
Sox are pathetic.

Sox fans are even more pathetic.

Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..

Impossible.

Sox= Pathetic. Hey NoVa Yankee fan, our sports talk radio WEEI in Boston is just as bad, yesterday in rather graphic terms portraying A-Rod and Jeter as.... uhm very good friends! :eek:

[NYYFAN]

I go there for laughs every so often...

Like right after Boone hit the BOMB...

One saying I like from over there is:

"It's on"

It's so on"

and it never is...:lol:

[looshawn]

You guys should really not allow the SoSH forum to epitomize all Red Sox fans. They are actually a small clique of so-called no it alls, where many have nothing to do but bad mouth the Yanks.

Perhaps you should try the Royal Rooters board, which I think is more representative of RS fans. Granted, you will find your fair share of bozos who will post meaningless posts, just as I see that you find over here in this forum. For the most part (and I include both forums) you find intellegent posts, with knowledgable baseball fans.

You also will find quite a few Yankee fans who post over there, who supply great input and make for good debate.

Barring any major injuries for both teams, I know it will be one of the most exciting - no, an outstanding season - for both teams. And for baseball.

With that being said... go Red Sox.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by NoVa YankeeFan
Sox are pathetic.

Sox fans are even more pathetic.

Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..

Impossible.

Sox= Pathetic.


I'm trying to abide to community standards here, but this comment is a bold face lie.
.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by looshawn
You guys should really not allow the SoSH forum to epitomize all Red Sox fans. They are actually a small clique of so-called no it alls, where many have nothing to do but bad mouth the Yanks.

Perhaps you should try the Royal Rooters board, which I think is more representative of RS fans. Granted, you will find your fair share of bozos who will post meaningless posts, just as I see that you find over here in this forum. For the most part (and I include both forums) you find intellegent posts, with knowledgable baseball fans.

You also will find quite a few Yankee fans who post over there, who supply great input and make for good debate.

Barring any major injuries for both teams, I know it will be one of the most exciting - no, an outstanding season - for both teams. And for baseball.

With that being said... go Red Sox.

Roayl Rooters is more representative. To me SOSH can keep it's exclusive club, if they get off on everyone agreeing (okay, maybe some think Bellhorn should start at second while others think Reese) with each other, more power to them.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by looshawn
You guys should really not allow the SoSH forum to epitomize all Red Sox fans. They are actually a small clique of so-called no it alls, where many have nothing to do but bad mouth the Yanks.

Perhaps you should try the Royal Rooters board, which I think is more representative of RS fans. Granted, you will find your fair share of bozos who will post meaningless posts, just as I see that you find over here in this forum. For the most part (and I include both forums) you find intellegent posts, with knowledgable baseball fans.

You also will find quite a few Yankee fans who post over there, who supply great input and make for good debate.

Barring any major injuries for both teams, I know it will be one of the most exciting - no, an outstanding season - for both teams. And for baseball.

With that being said... go Red Sox.

"No it alls"? What?

I hope Royal Rooters isn't representative. I can't look at another "Lets trade Soriano for Arroyo" post.

:rolleyes:

People on this board should really look for themselves. The Yankees get PLENTY of respect on SoSH. Everyone knows this is going to be a battle. You might see some unkind words about the Yankees (like the Red Sox get here), but people post intelligent things 99% of the time. If you don't, you get banned. You're expected to ADD something to the discussion.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by NDBoston


"No it alls"? What?

I hope Royal Rooters isn't representative. I can't look at another "Lets trade Soriano for Arroyo post"

:rollingeyes:

People on this board should really look for themselves. The Yankees get PLENTY of respect on SoSH. Everyone knows this is going to be a battle. You might see some unkind words about the Yankees (like the Red Sox get here), but people post intelligent things 99% of the time. If you don't, you get banned. You're expected to ADD something to the discussion.

Are Yankee fans allowed to post on SoSH? If censoring the opposing view is representative of Red Sox nation, then more power to you. I like a forum that is open to all points of view and isn't afraid of views differing from their own.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by Nettles dfw

Not a big deal, but
1) It is my understanding that MFY is a pretty mainstream term on Sosh (in a small sample test :) )
2) I think MFY is a little worse than Red Sux (think about what age a child/young adult would have to be before you would say either phrase in front of them).
Again, not a big deal, but I wouldn't write off MFY as being a product of just "some" Sox fans (in the context of the Sosh comments the thread starter posted).

SoSH was never designed to be for children and it isn't a mainstream site.

It's a place for people who realize what WHIP means, and why it's important.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by GoRocket


Are Yankee fans allowed to post on SoSH? If censoring the opposing view is representative of Red Sox nation, then more power to you. I like a forum that is open to all points of view and isn't afraid of views differing from their own.

Membership is closed and has been for almost two years.

People are allowed in via recommendation by other SoSH members, or convincing the people running the site you're worthy.

[mhmajp]

I feel that M*Y is definitely a worse term then Red S*x. One involves a word you can't say in any public broadcastig forum and one doeasn't. However, There is plenty of intelligent, and sometimes even lyrical posting on the SoSH site. There is bias on this site, that site and pretty much all other sites. We're all stupid little kids hating the other team on occasion (okay, a little more often for some people). But this season should be great with the rivalry quite possibly at an all time "most viscious" level.

And as the moderator of a large site that can easily erupt in flame wars, while I like that NYY is an open forum, there is nothing wrong with trying to keep a little order. There is also nothing wrong with wanting to have something of a club for friends or fellow travellers and with using the Internet to cut down on the costs of building a building or having to fly to the location if you're from out of the area.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by NDBoston


SoSH was never designed to be for children and it isn't a mainstream site.

It's a place for people who realize what WHIP means, and why it's important.

Walks/hits to innings pitched. It is a measure of how many base runners a pitcher allows. I have no problem with sites like SoSH, if people want to talk with other like-thinking people, more power to them. Me personally, I prefer talking with BOTH Yankee and non-Yankee fans. I think it makes for better conversation.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by NDBoston


Membership is closed and has been for almost two years.

People are allowed in via recommendation by other SoSH members, or convincing the people running the site you're worthy.

Sounds like a ritzy club in Beverly Hills.

That being said, if Sox fans want their safe from non-Sox views, they are entitled.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by GoRocket


Walks/hits to innings pitched. It is a measure of how many base runners a pitcher allows. I have no problem with sites like SoSH, if people want to talk with other like-thinking people, more power to them. Me personally, I prefer talking with BOTH Yankee and non-Yankee fans. I think it makes for better conversation.

There are plenty of websites that accept Red Sox and Yankee fans. SoSH isn't one of them.

Trust me, SoSH is far from "like thinking". We might all love the Red Sox but that's where it ends.

WHIP is more important than ERA when loking at relief pitchers in my opinion.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by NDBoston



WHIP is more important than ERA when loking at relief pitchers in my opinion.

largely so as inherited runners don't count against the reliever's ERA. If Mussina allows a lead-of double in the 8th inning and Gordon comes in and the run scores on a hit, I don't like that Mussina gets all the blame and Gordon doesn't (If you look at the reliever's ERA).

[Pedro's cuff]

Originally posted by looshawn

Perhaps you should try the Royal Rooters board, which I think is more representative of RS fans. Granted, you will find your fair share of bozos who will post meaningless posts, just as I see that you find over here in this forum. For the most part (and I include both forums) you find intellegent posts, with knowledgable baseball fans.

That site's yahoo central.

[NYYFAN]

Best part is SOSH users is that they turn on their players and coachs so fast its unbelieveable...and with WAY out of line terms...

[Judge Mental]

reality check:

-there's more sox threads here then there are yankee posts there (14 here, 4 there)
-nobody at sosh starts threads based on something that a yankee player said to the new york press about their chances of winning next year and deem them "insane"
-posters who add nothing to the discussion over there are often ridiculed and banned, over here it's no big deal
-membership is limited because it's an ezboard and if too many people started posting there it would kill the server.
-nobody at sosh starts threads based on something a yankee player said to the new york press about their chances of winning next year and deem them "insane".

this reality check has been brought to you by the good folks at h&r block

[Nettles dfw]

Originally posted by NDBoston


SoSH was never designed to be for children and it isn't a mainstream site.

It's a place for people who realize what WHIP means, and why it's important. FYI, I never suggested that Sosh should be for children. I merely was commenting on Bosoxgirls comparing "BoSux" and "MFY". I thought one was marginally worse, and while it isn't a big deal, I was not agreeing with Bosoxgirls comparison.

I'm not sure what WHIP has to do with that point. Although I wouldn't disagree that most people there probably know what it means.

[Nettles dfw]

Originally posted by Judge Mental
reality check:

-there's more sox threads here then there are yankee posts there (14 here, 4 there)
...
this reality check has been brought to you by the good folks at h&r block This may at at least partially due to the closed membership (higher % of home teams fans posting). I think there is a natural reaction that is caused by the greater presence of rival fans.

Look, I enjoy reading the posts of ND Boston and cubswin - even if I don't agree with them:). The reaction to Sox's fans posts sometimes is noise - but sometimes it is interesting conversation and debate.

This reality check has not been sponsered.:)

[Pedro's cuff]

Originally posted by NYYFAN
Best part is SOSH users is that they turn on their players and coachs so fast its unbelieveable...and with WAY out of line terms...

Thankfully that kind of irrational behavior never occurs here.

[YankeePride1967]

Originally posted by Nettles dfw
This may at at least partially due to the closed membership (higher % of home teams fans posting). I think there is a natural reaction that is caused by the greater presence of rival fans.

Look, I enjoy reading the posts of ND Boston and cubswin - even if I don't agree with them:). The reaction to Sox's fans posts sometimes is noise - but sometimes it is interesting conversation and debate.

This reality check has not been sponsered.:)

Thank you, my feelings exactly. Differing opinions make good conversation. If the biggest disagreement there is, is about whether Joe should have pinch run for Giambi then that to me is not the best kind of forum.

[PippyPinstripes]

There aren't a lot of Yankee threads at sosh because you guys tend to have one big long thread and discuss all of the Yankee issues, whereas a lot of people here have a habit of starting threads willy-nilly when what they had to say could have very well gone in an existing thread.

[PippyPinstripes]

By the way, who the hell DOESN'T know what WHIP is? Hardly an obscure thing, that.

[nufced1918]

Since I am the owner of RR (http://redsoxnation.net) I suppose I have to jump in and clarify some myths.

We have an open membership, but at the same time have a low tolerance for "trolls". RR started a year ago as a spinoff of the Providence Journal Red Sox message board (http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/postlist.pl?Cat=&Board=YourTurn) that wasn't moderated at all and totally fell apart. We launched on April 2, 2003 on ezboard (http://pub199.ezboard.com/broyalrooters) and on December 1 switched software to Invision to seperate us from SoSH.

However I stress that 99% of NYY fans are welcome as long as they want to talk baseball and not rub the last 85 years in our noses. Believe me, we know our history. In fact we run a clock (http://www.royalrooters.com) that counts up from the last time we won it all

31209 days, 0 hours, 58 minutes, 44 seconds

We have a dedicated forum (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) for the Yankees which we call That team 206.4 miles away (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) which at times Sox fans tend to poke fun at NYY. But more important is the forum description "Like it or not we can not ignore them. What will Phinneas T. Bluster do next?" Any Sox fan that does not respect NYY is a fool.

[Pedro's cuff]

nice clock.

[cubswin]

Originally posted by Nettles dfw
This may at at least partially due to the closed membership (higher % of home teams fans posting). I think there is a natural reaction that is caused by the greater presence of rival fans.

Look, I enjoy reading the posts of ND Boston and cubswin - even if I don't agree with them:). The reaction to Sox's fans posts sometimes is noise - but sometimes it is interesting conversation and debate...


Thanks, Nettles. For what it's worth, I post both here and on Royal Rooters but prefer here for exactly the reason that it's more interesting to discuss issues with folks from the other side and to hear "outside" opinions. Not much fun, IMO, to debate whether Timlin is better than Williamson, or how the epic Reese-Bellhorn-Womack competition in ST will turn out. Of course, the flip side is that, just like some at Royal Rooters would treat Yanks fans, there are people here who cannot/ will not have a mature discussion / debate. Fortunately, the insights of the good posters outweighs the noise.

(Btw - I liked Graig Nettles, even though he was an "enemy," as some here would have me label him.)

[NYYFAN]

I love the fact that Boston fans are now calling A-rod "Lee Harvey"...:lol:

[cubswin]

Originally posted by NYYFAN
I love the fact that Boston fans are now calling A-rod "Lee Harvey"...:lol:

What does that mean?

[YankeeFan1]

Try and read a post on SoSH without any anit-Yankees homosexual slant..
I know. I lurk there on occasion. I'm not bothered by most of the stuff they write because I understand that they love their team and desperately want to win, but the homophobic comments about the Yankee players are just out of control so much for New Englanders being liberal or open minded. It is amazing that they think nothing of using these types of slurs.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by nufced1918
Since I am the owner of RR (http://redsoxnation.net) I suppose I have to jump in and clarify some myths.

We have an open membership, but at the same time have a low tolerance for "trolls". RR started a year ago as a spinoff of the Providence Journal Red Sox message board (http://www.projo.com/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/postlist.pl?Cat=&Board=YourTurn) that wasn't moderated at all and totally fell apart. We launched on April 2, 2003 on ezboard (http://pub199.ezboard.com/broyalrooters) and on December 1 switched software to Invision to seperate us from SoSH.

However I stress that 99% of NYY fans are welcome as long as they want to talk baseball and not rub the last 85 years in our noses. Believe me, we know our history. In fact we run a clock (http://www.royalrooters.com) that counts up from the last time we won it all

31209 days, 0 hours, 58 minutes, 44 seconds

We have a dedicated forum (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) for the Yankees which we call That team 206.4 miles away (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) which at times Sox fans tend to poke fun at NYY. But more important is the forum description "Like it or not we can not ignore them. What will Phinneas T. Bluster do next?" Any Sox fan that does not respect NYY is a fool.

I would have never guessed you were the owner.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by PippyPinstripes
By the way, who the hell DOESN'T know what WHIP is? Hardly an obscure thing, that.

I was going easy on you.

http://premium.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2579

[nufced1918]

Originally posted by cubswin


(Btw - I liked Graig Nettles, even though he was an "enemy," as some here would have me label him.)

I would have liked Nettles more if he had dropped Yaz's foul pop up on 10/2/78

[NYYFAN]

Originally posted by cubswin


What does that mean?

Your a smart guy...you know what the reference is about...

[cubswin]

Originally posted by nufced1918


I would have liked Nettles more if he had dropped Yaz's foul pop up on 10/2/78
that's a given :) damn gossage

[cubswin]

Originally posted by NYYFAN


Your a smart guy...you know what the reference is about...

I get the reference, I don't understand the application to A-Rod. Maybe I need more caffeine..

[NYYFAN]

Originally posted by cubswin


I get the reference, I don't understand the application to A-Rod. Maybe I need more caffeine..

Just a derogatory remark toward Arod based on the fact that Oswald is viewed as an evil murder of a beloved President...

Their way of showing their told disgust of the Yankees getting A-rod...

Just par for the course...they kill me...:lol:

[NYYFAN]

Originally posted by nufced1918
Since I am the owner of RR (http://redsoxnation.net) I suppose I have to jump in and clarify some myths.

31209 days, 0 hours, 58 minutes, 44 seconds

We have a dedicated forum (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) for the Yankees which we call That team 206.4 miles away (http://forums.redsoxnation.net/index.php?showforum=14) which at times Sox fans tend to poke fun at NYY. But more important is the forum description "Like it or not we can not ignore them. What will Phinneas T. Bluster do next?" Any Sox fan that does not respect NYY is a fool.

I think the site is down BTW...

[cubswin]

Originally posted by NYYFAN


Just a derogatory remark toward Arod based on the fact that Oswald is viewed as an evil murder of a beloved President...

Their way of showing their told disgust of the Yankees getting A-rod...

Just par for the course...they kill me...:lol:


Ah - more straightforward than I was imagining (I was thinking conspiracy theory, the Texas connection, etc.)

[NYYFAN]

Originally posted by cubswin



Ah - more straightforward than I was imagining (I was thinking conspiracy theory, the Texas connection, etc.)

I dont think they think that deep...:lol:

[nufced1918]

Originally posted by NYYFAN


I think the site is down BTW...


it was down briefly as we do some work in the background


knew I shouldn't have hired Grady

http://static.userland.com/sh4/images/booknotes/behindTheCurtain.jpg

[Nettles dfw]

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Originally posted by nufced1918


I would have liked Nettles more if he had dropped Yaz's foul pop up on 10/2/78
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Originally posted by cubswin

that's a given :) darn gossage

thanks for the memories:)

[northern]

QUOTE]Originally posted by Nettles dfw
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Originally posted by nufced1918


I would have liked Nettles more if he had dropped Yaz's foul pop up on 10/2/78
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thanks for the memories:) [/QUOTE]YEAH, THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES.:barf: :barf: :

[Bluesexy's daddy]

I don't go to Sox sites. Whatever they want to engage in there is beyond my caring. They are entitled to their sites. The owners of my favorite restauraunt in Albuquerque are from Boston. We talk baseball frequently. They are die-hard Sox fans but they never engage in delusional dogma. I think the Net brings out the most hyperbolic view of sports. Most of the fans that I meet in person are not that rude or silly.

[Red Sox 2004]

so our sites are anti-homosexual? unlike all the kind references here towards Pettitte and Clemens on this site?

look in the mirror boys, look in the mirror. the internet is full of idiots, no site has an exclusive on them.

[yanquis1972]

actually he said "anti-yankees, homosexual slant" only without the comma. that's how i read it anyway.

but yeah, sosh is probably the most homophobic baseball forum i've yet experienced, funnily enough.

[NDBoston]

Originally posted by yanquis1972
actually he said "anti-yankees, homosexual slant" only without the comma. that's how i read it anyway.

but yeah, sosh is probably the most homophobic baseball forum i've yet experienced, funnily enough.

:rolleyes:

whatever

[hugelongtermdeal]

Originally posted by yanquis1972
actually he said "anti-yankees, homosexual slant" only without the comma. that's how i read it anyway.

but yeah, sosh is probably the most homophobic baseball forum i've yet experienced, funnily enough.


this is just silly talk.

any links to all of this "slant"?