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DominicanYankee
06-21-10, 08:54 AM
Season begins today. A lot of talent to root for.

dpbddd99
06-21-10, 11:42 AM
Roster just updated:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&cid=475

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 12:01 PM
this team is loaded with prospects. Checo, DeLuca, Gerritse, Bryan Mitchell, Turley and Matt Richardson on the mound. Sanchez, Perkins, Culver, Nunez, in the field. should be fun.

Gusto
06-21-10, 12:02 PM
First game under way. Kelvin Duran - lead off homer to start the bottom of the 1st.

Posada_20
06-21-10, 12:04 PM
Banuelos is back. Pitched the first 2 innings, allowed 1 run, 1 hit, and 2 Ks. Brett Marshall now pitching. Good to see him back as well.

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 12:13 PM
that's great news on man ban and marshall.

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 12:18 PM
Gary Sanchez GRAND SLAM

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 12:26 PM
Marshall 2IP 0H 2BB 2K

THEBOSS84
06-21-10, 12:26 PM
Not a bad first AB.

jeter62375
06-21-10, 12:40 PM
bunt single for golson then he stole 2nd and 3rd.

dpbddd99
06-21-10, 12:50 PM
Forgot about this other Aussie signing.

http://www.baseball.com.au/?page=42506&format=

sjkqw
06-21-10, 01:30 PM
Shocked to see that Reynoso wasn't in the GCL so I searched his name and milb says he was released.

DominicanYankee
06-21-10, 01:59 PM
Shocked to see that Reynoso wasn't in the GCL so I searched his name and milb says he was released.

I think it's a temporary status, not a propper release of a player. If he's not making the GCL team, he surely will be back in the DSL.

Posada_20
06-21-10, 02:20 PM
Wild opening game. Yanks have retaken the lead 10-8 bottom of 8th

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 02:26 PM
5 errors so far, not pretty, but it is the 1st game.

Buzah!
06-21-10, 02:47 PM
GCL Yanks win! I think they're gonna be blast this year.

ArodMVP217
06-21-10, 02:50 PM
Gulf Coast is teh most fun to follow. You get those scores earlier in the day too!

mhmajp
06-21-10, 02:56 PM
Sorry to be a pain, but does anyone know how the 8 runs scored against the GCL Yanks?

Hughes2.50
06-21-10, 03:00 PM
C Gary Sanchez 2 for 4 with a grandslam, an assist on a throw to 2nd on a caught stealing and, a throwing error on another play. Showing off his tools in game one.

ArodMVP217
06-21-10, 03:03 PM
Sorry to be a pain, but does anyone know how the 8 runs scored against the GCL Yanks?

Box: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2010_06_21_pirrok_yanrok_1

a few unearned.

Is it true that Sanchez's time to 2nd is already under 4 seconds?

Hughes2.50
06-21-10, 03:03 PM
Sorry to be a pain, but does anyone know how the 8 runs scored against the GCL Yanks?Here is a recap of the game.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_log&gid=2010_06_21_pirrok_yanrok_1

Hughes2.50
06-21-10, 03:05 PM
Box: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2010_06_21_pirrok_yanrok_1

a few unearned.

Is it true that Sanchez's time to 2nd is already under 4 seconds?His pop times (catchers mitt to second base) are around 1.85 on average.

mwalvlior
06-21-10, 03:22 PM
His pop times (catchers mitt to second base) are around 1.85 on average.

so does that mean you are saying that the 4 successful steals were more on the pitchers (3 different pitchers)?

Buzah!
06-21-10, 03:23 PM
C Gary Sanchez 2 for 4 with a grandslam, an assist on a throw to 2nd on a caught stealing and, a throwing error on another play. Showing off his tools in game one.He also walked and plate disc. is a tool.

Hughes2.50
06-21-10, 03:31 PM
He also walked and plate disc. is a tool.Plate discipline is a tool - plus; (a) hit for average, (b) hit for power, (c) field your position,(d) throw, and (e) run, are considered the traditional five-tools. Certainly, plate discipline which the Yanks like to see is generally considered part of the "hit for average" tool.

Hughes2.50
06-21-10, 03:34 PM
so does that mean you are saying that the 4 successful steals were more on the pitchers (3 different pitchers)?Given Sanchez also had a throwing error it is clear he needs reps at catcher. I do know he has the tools to be an exceptional defensive catcher - I doubt he already is. He's got to work hard to be an exceptional major league defensive catcher.<p>The Yankees don't expect their minor league pitchers to hold on baserunners in rookie league and low A ball. That makes it tougher to control the running game for a catcher.

yankee82093
06-21-10, 04:29 PM
He also walked and plate disc. is a tool.

Isn't it generally considered more of a skill? Aren't there like 7 skills or something?

yankee82093
06-21-10, 04:30 PM
Plate discipline is a tool - plus; (a) hit for average, (b) hit for power, (c) field your position,(d) throw, and (e) run, are considered the traditional five-tools. Certainly, plate discipline which the Yanks like to see is generally considered part of the "hit for average" tool.

I don't think so. BABIP ability (hit tool) and plate discipline are nearly independent. Hit tool does not mean be able to sustain a high BA, it just means good contact skills.

Buzah!
06-21-10, 04:34 PM
The Yanks consider it a tool.

Dexter Morgan
06-21-10, 05:45 PM
Damn, I almost forgot about all these arms we drafted the previous 2 drafts.

mhmajp
06-21-10, 05:55 PM
Box: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2010_06_21_pirrok_yanrok_1

a few unearned.

Is it true that Sanchez's time to 2nd is already under 4 seconds?

Many thanks!

indianyanksfan
06-21-10, 08:00 PM
this team is loaded with prospects. Checo, DeLuca, Gerritse, Bryan Mitchell, Turley and Matt Richardson on the mound. Sanchez, Perkins, Culver, Nunez, in the field. should be fun.

dont forget rey nunez, kuo, flores, felix, toussan duran. woh!

Januz
06-22-10, 04:18 AM
dont forget rey nunez, kuo, flores, felix, toussan duran. woh!
The guy I am going to be following is Bryan Mitchell. He is shooting up the best prospect list very quickly: He is already 10th: 10. Bryan Mitchell RHP 4/19/1991
Mitchell was picked up in the 16th round in 2009 and is probably going to go down as a late round steal when all is said and done. Hes already 6-2 and 175 so the frame is there with room to grow. He already throws a 2 seam fastball in the low 90s with a feel for a changeup and a plus 12-6 curveball which is considered one of the best in the system already. So this kid has upside to spare right now. Hes this high on the list based on his upside. Barring injury he will move fast into full season ball and then take it one step at a time. http://baseballinstinct.com/ (http://www.google.com/url?url=http://baseballinstinct.com/&rct=j&sa=X&ei=eHsgTMebLMT68Abi_MR0&ved=0CB4Q1AUwAA&q=bryan+mitchell+and+new+york+yankees&usg=AFQjCNE7YfSSdn6xY378ZjcRXfQn5tumwA) What is frightening is the GCL Yankees almost have TOO much talent down there (Particularly on the mound DeLuca, Gerritse, Chico, and of course, Mitchell (You have to assume Turley and some of the others will move)). This could be one of the reasons why Encencas & Morton who look like they have agreed to terms (The fact they are NOT going to summer ball is a clue), will not be signed until late, there is simply no room for them yet (The Commissioner's office being the other reason).

Posada_20
06-22-10, 12:27 PM
Wonder why milb.com has no updates on today's game yet

Buzah!
06-22-10, 04:10 PM
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2010_06_22_yanrok_pirrok_1

mwalvlior
06-22-10, 04:14 PM
good work by deluca and that offense is insane right now. got to keep the walks down, but good first effort. any reports on his stuff today?

bmxstreetrider86
06-22-10, 04:15 PM
interesting debut for deluca

Jax Teller
06-22-10, 04:17 PM
Rey Nunez with a HR. I dig it.

bmxstreetrider86
06-22-10, 04:26 PM
lol the starting pitcher for the pirates was 14 years older than gary sanchez

Buzah!
06-22-10, 04:41 PM
That fits in with my theory that the GCL Yanks could thump the MLB Pirates.

mwalvlior
06-23-10, 09:45 AM
Culver officially on the GCL roster now. maybe he plays today?

yankeelover
06-23-10, 11:08 AM
No, Cito Culver is not in today's lineup. :mad:

Posada_20
06-23-10, 11:17 AM
No, Cito Culver is not in today's lineup. :mad:

But Bryan Mitchell is on the mound today. :)

Posada_20
06-23-10, 11:44 AM
Rough debut for Mitchell. After a 1-2-3 first inning, he lost the strike zone in the 2nd, walking 4 batters and giving up a grand slam. 5-0 Tigers.

McMoose
06-23-10, 11:53 AM
Rough debut for Mitchell. After a 1-2-3 first inning, he lost the strike zone in the 2nd, walking 4 batters and giving up a grand slam. 5-0 Tigers.

Youch. Anyone know how his velocity was?

DominicanYankee
06-23-10, 12:39 PM
Any update on the game? Did they bounce back?

Posada_20
06-23-10, 12:41 PM
Any update on the game? Did they bounce back?

Bats are silent today. Trailing 5-0 with only 1 hit and 10 strikeouts through 6.

Buzah!
06-23-10, 12:48 PM
They just picked up two in the bottom of the 7th. Maybe they'll pull it out.

mwalvlior
06-23-10, 01:07 PM
anyone have a scouting report on juan marcano?

DominicanYankee
06-23-10, 01:40 PM
Bats are silent today. Trailing 5-0 with only 1 hit and 10 strikeouts through 6.

If the game still is 5 - 1, the relief pitching is doing the job. What pitchers followed Mitchell?

mwalvlior
06-23-10, 01:59 PM
If the game still is 5 - 1, the relief pitching is doing the job. What pitchers followed Mitchell?

Ended 5-2

Tapia 2IP 1H 1BB 1K
Marcano 4IP 1H 0BB 1K
Reyes 1IP 2H

Sanchez with an RBI in all 3 games

yanke1313
06-23-10, 02:01 PM
I think I remember Marcano dominating the DSL for a few years.

mwalvlior
06-23-10, 02:03 PM
I think I remember Marcano dominating the DSL for a few years.

stats back that up. few hits, lot of walks even more K's.

njdhockey
06-23-10, 06:29 PM
Are the Yankees two Australian prospects (Kyle Perkins and Nathan Aron) going to play for the GCL Yankees?

Buzah!
06-23-10, 06:32 PM
They've both on the roster, but whether they'll play or not is anyone's guess.

dpbddd99
06-23-10, 06:48 PM
Aron has one at bat, no hits.

yoo-boo
06-23-10, 07:22 PM
Marshall reached A level last year and Turley and Richardson have yet to reach the A level in 3 years. Does it mean both Turley and Richardson are a long development project, right?

indianyanksfan
06-23-10, 07:59 PM
Marshall reached A level last year and Turley and Richardson have yet to reach the A level in 3 years. Does it mean both Turley and Richardson are a long development project, right?

i think they are taking their time with them.

sjkqw
06-23-10, 08:13 PM
Marshall reached A level last year and Turley and Richardson have yet to reach the A level in 3 years. Does it mean both Turley and Richardson are a long development project, right?

To be fair to them, this is only their second development year so a year and a start. I think they are both supposed to be in SI at some point this year to take the rotation spots of Green and Elam (or even W. Rodriguez and the empty one at this point). 2011 would be A ball for them. Marshall could work his way back to A ball this year. I hope they take their time bringing him back from injury though. If all goes well he will be in Tampa in 2011.

yoo-boo
06-23-10, 09:10 PM
last year was their first full season. Marshall went more than 80 innings for Charleston and both Turley and Richardson pitched at least 60 innings for lesser than A teams.

Granted, Marshall was drafted way high and has more upside but I would like to know what is the reason to hold Turley and Richardson below Low A.

Off my head,

1. new to pitching when drafted.
2. stuff is just aveage.
3. too many pitchers in higher levels.
4. low upside turning into a journey pitcher.

yoo-boo
06-23-10, 09:20 PM
chase Whitley struck out twice each game as he earned 2 saves. last time I checked Whitely barely toppled out 92 mph. I am kind of hoping I read wrong scouting report. What is his top FB right now?

Yankees1962
06-24-10, 05:48 AM
To be fair to them, this is only their second development year so a year and a start. I think they are both supposed to be in SI at some point this year to take the rotation spots of Green and Elam (or even W. Rodriguez and the empty one at this point). 2011 would be A ball for them. Marshall could work his way back to A ball this year. I hope they take their time bringing him back from injury though. If all goes well he will be in Tampa in 2011.
Marshall has one last rehab start in GCL then heads back to Charleston next week.

sjkqw
06-24-10, 06:42 AM
Marshall has one last rehab start in GCL then heads back to Charleston next week.

Already! Then that was a really quick recovery. He had TJS in September.

sjkqw
06-24-10, 06:47 AM
last year was their first full season. Marshall went more than 80 innings for Charleston and both Turley and Richardson pitched at least 60 innings for lesser than A teams.

Granted, Marshall was drafted way high and has more upside but I would like to know what is the reason to hold Turley and Richardson below Low A.

Off my head,

1. new to pitching when drafted.
2. stuff is just aveage.
3. too many pitchers in higher levels.
4. low upside turning into a journey pitcher.

Well they are not top 40 prospects in our system and maybe one is top 50, but I would have to say 2 in combination with 4. Though I think they aren't that bad. Also Richardson got destroyed in Staten Island last year. Granted, Marshall did get destroyed in Charleston all year. I think it is just higher upside for Marshall and taking it slow with the other guys

Yankees1962
06-24-10, 07:41 AM
Already! Then that was a really quick recovery. He had TJS in September.
He had about 2-3 rehab starts in EST.

yoo-boo
06-25-10, 09:23 AM
Already! Then that was a really quick recovery. He had TJS in September.

He had TJS in June or July. It did mention that he wont be ready until end of this July. I guess he is on the right time. Also, he already reached 93-95 mph FB. Yankees have to be careful with this kid because they already destroyed Garcia and Horne.

yoo-boo
06-25-10, 09:25 AM
Well they are not top 40 prospects in our system and maybe one is top 50, but I would have to say 2 in combination with 4. Though I think they aren't that bad. Also Richardson got destroyed in Staten Island last year. Granted, Marshall did get destroyed in Charleston all year. I think it is just higher upside for Marshall and taking it slow with the other guys

I try to get more deep information on Richardson and Turley but pffttt. I guess I have to wait for someone to bring it up in near future.

Posada_20
06-25-10, 11:19 AM
Culver is in the GCL lineup today. Is 0-1 so far.

TheHugeUnit2
06-25-10, 11:20 AM
Culver is in the GCL lineup today. Is 0-1 so far.

He's dead to me.

Posada_20
06-25-10, 11:21 AM
Banuelos making his 2nd start today. Could be headed back to High A Tampa after today.

bmxstreetrider86
06-25-10, 11:27 AM
matchup of some tops picks, Biddle is the phillies #1 pick

Melan-cynic
06-25-10, 12:17 PM
He had TJS in June or July. It did mention that he wont be ready until end of this July. I guess he is on the right time. Also, he already reached 93-95 mph FB. Yankees have to be careful with this kid because they already destroyed Garcia and Horne.Yankees have def mishandled pitching prospects at times but Garcia and Horne are not in that conversation. Both prospects have been the epitome of injury prone and owe their medical problems to Mr. Glassness, not some kind of organizational mismanagement.

Matsui55
06-25-10, 09:26 PM
He had TJS in June or July. It did mention that he wont be ready until end of this July. I guess he is on the right time. Also, he already reached 93-95 mph FB. Yankees have to be careful with this kid because they already destroyed Garcia and Horne.

Horne had TJ surgery before he was even drafted by the Yanks (in college). The questions surrounding him post-injury was the reason he fell to the 11th round, where the Yanks got him.

Garcia had been a pitcher for exactly one year before the Yanks drafted him (he had been a C and was converted to a P in his senior team in HS). Guys who are converted to the mound often encounter arm problems, as their arms simply are not conditioned to the workload that is demanded of a pro SP.

I would say that Joba is probably a better example of someone they mishandled.

yoo-boo
06-26-10, 09:19 AM
I meant all of SP I mentioned were hurt and rushed back into actual games on their watch. Granted, it was fast movement program for him but Joba had not been hurt in the minor system and he had weak health status back in college. Only SP I so far know that survived the Yankees' "surgery and go" program was Wang.

yoo-boo
06-26-10, 09:23 AM
He's dead to me.

you are the most dreadful Yankee fan. :P

anyways, I am sure I will see a ton of negative comments toward him for 2 years if he finishes a weak season. Jeter did struggle first 2 years in pro.

ArodMVP217
06-26-10, 09:53 AM
Horne had TJ surgery before he was even drafted by the Yanks (in college). The questions surrounding him post-injury was the reason he fell to the 11th round, where the Yanks got him.

Garcia had been a pitcher for exactly one year before the Yanks drafted him (he had been a C and was converted to a P in his senior team in HS). Guys who are converted to the mound often encounter arm problems, as their arms simply are not conditioned to the workload that is demanded of a pro SP.

I would say that Joba is probably a better example of someone they mishandled.

yes, Although I am inquisitive as to the extent of Jober's offseason regimen

Matsui55
06-26-10, 11:00 AM
I meant all of SP I mentioned were hurt and rushed back into actual games on their watch. Granted, it was fast movement program for him but Joba had not been hurt in the minor system and he had weak health status back in college. Only SP I so far know that survived the Yankees' "surgery and go" program was Wang.

Really? How about Mo? Melancon? Brackman?

Matsui55
06-26-10, 11:02 AM
yes, Although I am inquisitive as to the extent of Jober's offseason regimen

I was focusing more on the indecision in making him a SP or reliever- and calling him up too early. They should have just left him as a SP and brought him up the next May/June when he should have been ready.

Now, I think that every time he takes the mound as a SP, he is actually thinking that if he doesn't do well, its back to the pen. The Yanks needed to make up their minds 2 years ago- now, it may be too late and Joba will be forever looking over his shoulder as a SP as a Yankee.

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 11:15 AM
Deluca on the mound today.<p>Not many rookie teams can sport a four man lead off contingent of:<p>1) Felix Anderson<p>2) Cito Culver<p>3) Gary Sanchez<p>4) Ramon Flores<p>All four are eighteen this year and all four are tremendous prospects.<p>Deluca 1IP 1BB 1K 0R

Gusto
06-28-10, 11:23 AM
Sanchez picks off a runner in the first

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 11:25 AM
Sanchez with a single in the bottom of the first; Flores with a double; Nunez three run homer.

mwalvlior
06-28-10, 11:42 AM
Sanchez with a single in the bottom of the first; Flores with a double; Nunez three run homer.

good thing that old man Nunez isnt weighing them down.

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 11:45 AM
good thing that old man Nunez isnt weighing them down.Yeah....:P <p>Deluca 2IP 3BB 3K 0H 0R

mwalvlior
06-28-10, 11:47 AM
so the book on deluca is very good stuff, but little clue where it is going?

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 11:47 AM
so the book on deluca is very good stuff, but little clue where it is going?It looks that way.<p>A good article on Deluca<p>http://www.nj.com/reporter/index.ssf/2009/08/ny_yankees_sign_pitcher_out_of.html<p>Basically he was a late sign and the Yankees followed him in the summer where he was hitting 96-97. 500K contract for a 44th round pick just made Commisar Bud delighted.<p>He's having a tough bottom of the third.

mwalvlior
06-28-10, 02:11 PM
deluca finished 2 2/3IP 4H 3ER 5BB 5K

Sanchez 3 for 4 day

down 9-7

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 02:17 PM
Culver 1-4 scored on a double by Sanchez (3-4)

mwalvlior
06-28-10, 02:20 PM
sanchez with another runner picked off first? he is doing that like pudge and yadier.

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 02:23 PM
sanchez with another runner picked off first? he is doing that like pudge and yadier.The second pickoff was by the pitcher, not Sanchez.<p>He comes manned with a cannon under his right wing.

Dexter Morgan
06-28-10, 02:37 PM
Sanchez seems like an exciting prospect... good defense and a big bat.

mwalvlior
06-28-10, 02:42 PM
The second pickoff was by the pitcher, not Sanchez.He comes manned with a cannon under his right wing.



i didnt mean it as 2 today, just another cause he has done it a few times now this season. maybe that is wrong.

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 02:50 PM
i didnt mean it as 2 today, just another cause he has done it a few times now this season. maybe that is wrong.No, I think you are right. I've got a complaint about Baseball Reference's minor league web site:<p>They still don't as of <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=42144">today</a href>, have Sanchez' stats (not even listed at all) - weird

Gusto
06-28-10, 03:12 PM
No, I think you are right. I've got a complaint about Baseball Reference's minor league web site:<p>They still don't as of <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=42144">today</a href>, have Sanchez' stats (not even listed at all) - weird

They don't even have him listed on the roster http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=42144

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 03:40 PM
They don't even have him listed on the roster http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=42144I know. I'm guessng someone doesn't want anyone to know what's in our system (conspiracy theory) :P

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 03:43 PM
Sanchez seems like an exciting prospect... good defense and a big bat.He's a huge prospect. The Yankees 3 mill dollar investment appears wise indeed. His potential is off the charts.<p>He won't be eighteen till December.

Fabien Brandy
06-28-10, 03:57 PM
Hubie Brown: Sanchez's potential is unlimited.

John Thompson: Very unlimited.

Hughes2.50
06-28-10, 04:04 PM
Hubie Brown: Sanchez's potential is unlimited.

John Thompson: Very unlimited.LoL....

philleotardo
06-28-10, 08:57 PM
Hubie Brown: Sanchez's potential is unlimited.

John Thompson: Very unlimited.Jay Bilas: But does he have great length and second jumpability?

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 11:49 AM
Culver with a single then Sanchez 2 run HR.

Sanchez currently .440 3HR 11RBI in 6+ games.

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 11:53 AM
Mitchell with a much better outing so far. 3IP 1H 1BB 1K

ICEBERG18
06-29-10, 12:31 PM
Culver with a single then Sanchez 2 run HR.

Sanchez currently .440 3HR 11RBI in 6+ games.

Here's Montero's GCL line at 17 for comparison.

.280/.366/.421/ OPS.787

AB's-107 H-30 2B-6 3B-0 HR-3 RBI-19 BB-12 K-18

Dexter Morgan
06-29-10, 12:35 PM
Gary Sanchez > Miguel Sano

Though I wish we signed both:


League AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS
DSL .314 16 51 10 16 2 1 3 9 29 10 14 2 0 .429 .569 .997

kan_t
06-29-10, 12:36 PM
Gary Sanchez > Miguel Sano
You can make a strong case that he can be a better prospect than Montero.

Buzah!
06-29-10, 12:58 PM
Montero didn't really go off until the end of the season/playoffs when he was in the GCL. This is a different start. But, Gary still have to kill 3 pitchers parks to be considered with Jesus. Though, it does seem that he has a Yankee Bat.

cuse621
06-29-10, 01:00 PM
Lets relax. He's played 6 games. Lets not annoint yet. I do think he'll be a great prospect but lets not get ahead of ourselves.

kan_t
06-29-10, 01:01 PM
Mitchell 4 IP, H, BB, SO

Sanchez 1-1, HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB
Culver 2-3, R, SO

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 01:11 PM
nice to see culver get his first multi-hit game. also stole a bag

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 01:14 PM
yea, no reason to really compare Jesus and Sanchez just yet. Certainly the start makes us all a little giddy but the small sample size issue does still exist. keep it up another 2-3 weeks and it gets even more exciting. ;)

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 01:21 PM
make that 3 hits for Cito. 3-4 1SO 1SB (3rd) now up to .313 from .167 before the game. ah the beauty of SSS.

BrandonA33
06-29-10, 01:59 PM
2 BB for Sanchez as well, SSS...but so far has shown good plate discipline
4:5 BB:k

dpbddd99
06-29-10, 02:10 PM
Culver ends up with four hits. May make all of us who hated the pick look bad.

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 02:18 PM
Culver 4-5 1 2B 1RBI 1SB 1SO avg up to .353
Sanchez 1-2 2 run HR 3BB (now 5BB on season) (anyone know if any of those were intentional)

Mitchell excellent bounce back 4IP 1BB 1H 1K

good day in GCL.

bmxstreetrider86
06-29-10, 02:20 PM
one was intentional

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 02:21 PM
one was intentional

yeah i was just about to edit as i saw it at the bottom of the box score. thanks.

jeter62375
06-29-10, 02:29 PM
Culver ends up with four hits. May make all of us who hated the pick look bad.

let's slow down, the gcl is a high school all star game, but it's definitely nice to see some of these guys having a nice start to their careers.

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 02:31 PM
let's slow down, the gcl is a high school all star game, but it's definitely nice to see some of these guys having a nice start to their careers.

agreed. nice to see some first's for cito today though. 1st multi hit game, 1st rbi, 1st extra base hit and 1st SB. now keep it up young man.

McMoose
06-29-10, 05:25 PM
agreed. nice to see some first's for cito today though. 1st multi hit game, 1st rbi, 1st extra base hit and 1st SB. now keep it up young man.

Who pitched today and how did they do?

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 05:29 PM
Who pitched today and how did they do?

starter Bryan Mitchell 4IP 1H 1BB 1K
Jose Quintana 3IP 1H 2BB 3K
Connor Mullee 2IP 3H 1ER 1BB 2K

McMoose
06-29-10, 05:31 PM
Just looked it up. Love the four scoreless for Bryan Mitchell, don't really like the one strikeout and 3-8 GB/FB.

EDIT: Thanks mwalvlior.

Hughes2.50
06-29-10, 05:38 PM
agreed. nice to see some first's for cito today though. 1st multi hit game, 1st rbi, 1st extra base hit and 1st SB. now keep it up young man.Do you see the irony in the user-name for the guy who threw the wet towel on Cito's day..:)

mwalvlior
06-29-10, 05:42 PM
Do you see the irony in the user-name for the guy who through the wet towel on Cito's day..:)

he doesnt need to worry, Cito will take his time. ;)

Hughes2.50
06-29-10, 05:47 PM
he doesnt need to worry, Cito will take his time. ;)At least 3 or 4.....:)

Hughes2.50
06-29-10, 08:50 PM
You can make a strong case that he can be a better prospect than Montero.With a better glove and the chance to be a comparable masher - yes that argument can me made. One thing that needs to be noted is how many runs a good catcher saves his team. The best defensive catchers can save fifteen or twenty-five runs during a season beyond the average major league catcher. And a little discussed fielding metric, takes into account the runs saved over a year by playing a high-priority defensive position like catcher or shortstop.

DiamDawg
06-30-10, 09:21 AM
Cito seems to be striking out alot .. any clue how many total at bats and how many strikeouts ... if C is to make it and be an asset on O he's going to be a #1 or #2 hitter .. so although striking out is never good its unaaceptable from your #1 or 2 hitters ... plus it maybe a sign that he's having trouble handling a pitch or location ...

any clue on his fielding ... assists/put outs/errors ..

thanks to any one that can help ..

DRobertsonNYY
06-30-10, 09:39 AM
its gulf coast league.. and his first pro ABs... he's gonna K a decent amount

Yankees1962
06-30-10, 10:10 AM
Cito seems to be striking out alot .. any clue how many total at bats and how many strikeouts ... if C is to make it and be an asset on O he's going to be a #1 or #2 hitter .. so although striking out is never good its unaaceptable from your #1 or 2 hitters ... plus it maybe a sign that he's having trouble handling a pitch or location ...

any clue on his fielding ... assists/put outs/errors ..

thanks to any one that can help ..
Take a look at this shortstop's first professional season down in GCL.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=jeter-001der

Gusto
06-30-10, 11:46 AM
Cito seems to be striking out alot

You need to go review his stats ... 3 ... that's the number of times he has k'd in 17 ABs.

Heathcott K'd three times yesterday. Why aren't you worried about him.

mwalvlior
06-30-10, 11:57 AM
Cito drew his first walk. :P

Matsui55
06-30-10, 09:04 PM
Cito seems to be striking out alot .. any clue how many total at bats and how many strikeouts ... if C is to make it and be an asset on O he's going to be a #1 or #2 hitter .. so although striking out is never good its unaaceptable from your #1 or 2 hitters ... plus it maybe a sign that he's having trouble handling a pitch or location ...

any clue on his fielding ... assists/put outs/errors ..

thanks to any one that can help ..

He's 17 years old and from the NE. In terms of game-ready skills, he's not there right now. In fact, I wouldn't be greatly surprised if the Yanks held him back in Extended ST next year and put him in the GCL or SI, depending on development. Keep in mind that he would still only be 18 then- the same age as most of NEXT YEAR'S HS draftees.

Remember, he's a project. His tools give him very good upside, but expecting immediate results isn't part of the plan.

mhmajp
07-01-10, 06:50 AM
Cito seems to be striking out alot .. any clue how many total at bats and how many strikeouts ... if C is to make it and be an asset on O he's going to be a #1 or #2 hitter .. so although striking out is never good its unaaceptable from your #1 or 2 hitters ... plus it maybe a sign that he's having trouble handling a pitch or location ...

any clue on his fielding ... assists/put outs/errors ..

thanks to any one that can help ..

Why does he need to be at the top of the order? He could hit somewhere between 7 and 9 if he becomes a great short stop with so-so offensive skills. At any rate, he's just starting out in professional ball at 17 and, so far, seems to be doing just fine.

Hughes2.50
07-01-10, 08:15 AM
Why does he need to be at the top of the order? He could hit somewhere between 7 and 9 if he becomes a great short stop with so-so offensive skills. At any rate, he's just starting out in professional ball at 17 and, so far, seems to be doing just fine.First of all Cito has 3K in 20 AB - a low rate - just about everyone on that roster has a higher K rate. The Yankees expect that Cito will be a successful hitter for average and he could show surprising power for a shortstop. I'm extremely impressed so far.<p>As for his fielding, the Yankees drafted him because they feel confident he can play shortstop for a long time. In his gulf coast games so far he hasn't errred and has made all the plays expected.

Hughes2.50
07-01-10, 08:29 AM
He's 17 years old and from the NE. In terms of game-ready skills, he's not there right now. In fact, <b>I wouldn't be greatly surprised if the Yanks held him back in Extended ST next year and put him in the GCL or SI, depending on development.</b> Keep in mind that he would still only be 18 then- the same age as most of NEXT YEAR'S HS draftees.

Remember, he's a project. His tools give him very good upside, but expecting immediate results isn't part of the plan.Still think the Yankees will hold back on putting this kid on the field? At least now you apparently acknowledge that decision will be based on how he develops this year and in instructs in the fall and winter. It was always about how well players develop not an effort to be cautious in pushing kids. <p>I think the Yankees hope and indeed expect that Culver will develop well in GCL and demonstrate he needs a full year challenge next year. Trout of the Angels has shown that NE players can develop very quickly if given the chance.

Matsui55
07-01-10, 08:42 AM
Still think the Yankees will hold back on putting this kid on the field? At least now you apparently acknowledge that decision will be based on how he develops this year and in instructs in the fall and winter. It was always about how well players develop not an effort to be cautious in pushing kids. <p>I think the Yankees hope and indeeed expect that Culver will develop well in GCL and demonstrate he needs a full year challenge next year. Trout of the Angels has shown that NE players can develop very quickly if given the chance.

Trout is a much more advanced bat that Culver is. Cito is about upside, not "now" production. The Yanks have an extra incentive to make sure this kid succeeds- if Cito becomes a ML SS with the skills set they envision, the Yanks will take GREAT pleasure in rubbing into BA's faces.

However, in order to do so, they need to get him as much "coaching up" as possible over the next several years. Pushing him to the next level to "challenge" him is not part of that equation.

Quite simply, he will be behind the Latin and Southern kids in on-field exposure and field time. He needs to begin to make up that difference in the cage, taking grounders, strengthening himself physically, and all the "little things" that go into prospect development. If he's on an artificial timeline to get him to low A ball in April, he will not get the time he needs.

Keep in mind that in ST, the fields are crowded and not a lot of one-on-one time is available. He needs winter AND extended ST to get the maximum benefit.

Like I said, he's only 17. Repeating rookie ball or going to SI next year is no tragedy- since he will still be 18 then, and the same age as most HS kids coming in.

Besides, its not like he will be alone in this. If the Yanks bring in Gumbs, Williams, Rutckyj, Deze and Kish, they most likely be joining him, as they won't sign in time to get any meaningful time in this summer.

Hughes2.50
07-01-10, 08:48 AM
Trout is a much more advanced bat that Culver is. Cito is about upside, not "now" production. The Yanks have an extra incentive to make sure this kid succeeds- if Cito becomes a ML SS with the skills set they envision, the Yanks will take GREAT pleasure in rubbing into BA's faces.

However, in order to do so, they need to get him as much "coaching up" as possible over the next several years. Pushing him to the next level to "challenge" him is not part of that equation.

Quite simply, he will be behind the Latin and Southern kids in on-field exposure and field time. He needs to begin to make up that difference in the cage, taking grounders, strengthening himself physically, and all the "little things" that go into prospect development. If he's on an artificial timeline to get him to low A ball in April, he will not get the time he needs.

Keep in mind that in ST, the fields are crowded and not a lot of one-on-one time is available. He needs winter AND extended ST to get the maximum benefit.

Like I said, he's only 17. Repeating rookie ball or going to SI next year is no tragedy- since he will still be 18 then, and the same age as most HS kids coming in.

Besides, its not like he will be alone in this. If the Yanks bring in Gumbs, Williams, Rutckyj, Deze and Kish, they most likely be joining him, as they won't sign in time to get any meaningful time in this summer.The Yankees have no reason to have a player repeat a level if he shows he has already handled it. You mention the latin players that have been in the system for two years already (and incidentally playing at the same level as Cito). Well players like Felix Anderson and Ramon Flores (the same age as Cito and already in the system) are players like that and Cito is fitting right in already. The Yankees let the individual player's performance tell them what they can handle. Don't expect they will hold this kid back if he meets challenges and shows he should go forward.<p>Btw, two more latin players (Rosario and Toussen both shortstops too) are actually on the roster with Culver and have already been lapped by Cito.

yoo-boo
07-01-10, 09:21 AM
Trout is a much more advanced bat that Culver is. Cito is about upside, not "now" production. The Yanks have an extra incentive to make sure this kid succeeds- if Cito becomes a ML SS with the skills set they envision, the Yanks will take GREAT pleasure in rubbing into BA's faces.

As first round talent, Trout was a sure thing and Cito was not. In history, Yanks always took kids at least round earlier but not in first round but Yanks have been "tight" in budget because of CC and Tex. Because Cito was valued as 2nd round and Yanks were sitting at very end of the round, they took Cito in the first round as a conservative approach. That means Yanks will not take ANY pleasure in rubbing BA's faces.

yoo-boo
07-01-10, 09:22 AM
DSL level is not always ahead of HS level.

awy
07-01-10, 09:23 AM
do you consider hs all star level to be "hs level?" how about hs level in the northeast?

Hughes2.50
07-01-10, 09:29 AM
As first round talent, Trout was a sure thing and Cito was not. In history, Yanks always took kids at least round earlier but not in first round but Yanks have been "tight" in budget because of CC and Tex. Because Cito was valued as 2nd round and Yanks were sitting at very end of the round, they took Cito in the first round as a conservative approach. That means Yanks will not take ANY pleasure in rubbing BA's faces.Trout signed for slot at the 25th pick last year. He was not a signability pick or considered a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. In fact Trout was considered someone who would need a lot of instruction before reaching his potential - it just so happens that Trout showed he could handle rookie league and then full year low a ball.<p>I'm not saying that Culver is the same player as Trout and his development will parallel Trout's. I am saying that Culver, like Trout, is a player who will probably exceed expectations (of teams that picked their players earlier than both Trout and Culver were selected) as did Trout.

yoo-boo
07-01-10, 09:42 AM
Trout signed for slot at the 25th pick last year. He was not a signability pick or considered a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. In fact Trout was considered somone who would need a lot of instruction before reaching his potential - it just so happens that Trout showed he could handle rookie league and then full year low a ball.I'm not saying that Culver is the same player as Trout and his development will parallel Trout's. I am saying that Culver, like Trout, is a player who will probably exceed expectations (of teams that picked their players earlier than both Trout and Culver were selected) as did Trout.



For that part, I am very concerned because Yanks instructors wont match Angels'.

yoo-boo
07-01-10, 09:43 AM
do you consider hs all star level to be "hs level?" how about hs level in the northeast?

key words: "NOT ALWAYS"

Hughes2.50
07-01-10, 09:48 AM
For that part, I am very concerned because Yanks instructors wont match Angels'.Once again you missed the point. Trout needed less instruction than most teams assumed he would need coming from the Northeast. The same is true of Cito, the Yankees already know he can play shortstop and hit. <p>The Yankees instructors aren't as good as the Angels instructors? OK.

Yankees1962
07-01-10, 09:52 AM
Once again you missed the point. Trout needed less instruction than most teams assumed he would need coming from the Northeast. The same is true of Cito, the Yankees already know he can play shortstop and hit. The Yankees instructors aren't as good as the Angels instructors? OK.
The same troll under a different alias.

yoo-boo
07-01-10, 10:09 AM
Once again you missed the point. Trout needed less instruction than most teams assumed he would need coming from the Northeast. The same is true of Cito, the Yankees already know he can play shortstop and hit. The Yankees instructors aren't as good as the Angels instructors? OK.



Uh? NJ is the same as NY? oh right. Trout's name and first round had been around way before the draft day. Cito was not. Both are not same. Only benefit of Cito's is Yanks had watched him growing up as they will know what to do with Cito.

Yankees1962
07-01-10, 10:50 AM
Uh? NJ is the same as NY? oh right. Trout's name and first round had been around way before the draft day. Cito was not. Both are not same. Only benefit of Cito's is Yanks had watched him growing up as they will know what to do with Cito.
Seems like a significant benefit if the Yankees are correct in their evaluation of him and he reaches the potential they envision about him.

NY_GOLDENARMS
07-01-10, 12:04 PM
Seems like a significant benefit if the Yankees are correct in their evaluation of him and he reaches the potential they envision about him.

I would say this is a clear means to measure the effectiveness of their evaluations. Not to say he has to become a major league player to prove their worth but if he turns into another Carmen Angelini debacle, it sure knocks down the faith I have in these types of picks going forward but if he does turn out to be the goods, I'm sure they will be showered with accolades (fingers crossed).

mbn007
07-01-10, 12:21 PM
Culver batting 5th today as the DH. He has a SF. 2-2 score after 4 innings. Turley pitching. Has 6 Ks after 4. Culver's replacement at SS, Rosario, has 2 errors, and Duran has 1. Both runs against Turley are unearned.

Duran, 3-3 with a 2B, Sanchez, 2-2.

BrandonA33
07-01-10, 12:41 PM
This Sanchez fella is pretty good

Yankees1962
07-01-10, 01:17 PM
I would say this is a clear means to measure the effectiveness of their evaluations. Not to say he has to become a major league player to prove their worth but if he turns into another Carmen Angelini debacle, it sure knocks down the faith I have in these types of picks going forward but if he does turn out to be the goods, I'm sure they will be showered with accolades (fingers crossed).
Not necessarily because scouting amateur baseball players is not an exact science and even the best organizations at evaluating such talent have a pretty high failure rate.

Yankees1962
07-01-10, 01:18 PM
Culver batting 5th today as the DH. He has a SF. 2-2 score after 4 innings. Turley pitching. Has 6 Ks after 4. Culver's replacement at SS, Rosario, has 2 errors, and Duran has 1. Both runs against Turley are unearned.

Duran, 3-3 with a 2B, Sanchez, 2-2.
The Yankees committed at least six errors today with Rosario making 3 of them.

Melan-cynic
07-01-10, 01:35 PM
Duran, 3-3 with a 2B, Sanchez, 2-2.Dios mio man. "That boy is hot."

indianyanksfan
07-02-10, 04:08 AM
how was turley's stuff?

kan_t
07-03-10, 04:03 PM
Gary Sanchez

37AB, .459/.545/.784, 6BB, 9SO

Melan-cynic
07-04-10, 12:07 PM
Just silly.

BrandonA33
07-04-10, 01:34 PM
The GCL Yankees having a day off may be the only way to keep this dude from getting hits

mwalvlior
07-04-10, 02:05 PM
BenBadler (http://twitter.com/BenBadler) Three more hits for #Yankees (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Yankees) C Gary Sanchez. I know it's just 10 games, but for a 17-year-old, his GCL numbers are bananas

mwalvlior
07-04-10, 02:16 PM
follow up on sanchez:


BenBadler (http://twitter.com/BenBadler) Great arm but his receiving has a long ways to go RT @zs190 (http://twitter.com/zs190) 6 PB's in 10 games too, is he just raw or will have trouble staying at C?

mwalvlior
07-04-10, 02:27 PM
BenBadler (http://twitter.com/BenBadler) No, they like him at C RT @brothertona (http://twitter.com/brothertona) I think if they moved him to RF, he could make the majors in 3 years. think they might consider it?

fans already trying to rush the kid to the bigs.

primetime714
07-04-10, 02:43 PM
The cool thing about Sanchez is that unlike Montero we have the luxury of seeing if our catching prospects ahead of him pan out before making a decision on whether or not to keep him at C. If his defense can't keep up with offense and we don't need him to be a C we can always move him to RF or wherever and let him move a bit quicker.

Fabien Brandy
07-04-10, 02:59 PM
Not necessarily because scouting amateur baseball players is not an exact science and even the best organizations at evaluating such talent have a pretty high failure rate.
True overall, and cases like McAllister and CoJo that seemed like reaches have validated the Yankee approach thus far. It's just that Culver was so far out of nowhere as a 1st rounder with so much talent on the board that went to division rivals that Culver to me needs to show something.

Gusto
07-06-10, 10:44 AM
Culver with a 2-run triple in the 1st today.

Rehabbing Mitre got the start ... 5 Ks in 2 IP

mwalvlior
07-06-10, 11:00 AM
Culver with a 2-run triple in the 1st today.

Rehabbing Mitre got the start ... 5 Ks in 2 IP

guess bryan mitchell took that as a challenge since he has 6K's in 2IP :D

mwalvlior
07-06-10, 11:19 AM
Anderson Felix with the big blow, a 3 run HR, in a 5 run half inning. GCL Yanks now up 7-0.

Felix 1-3 HR 3RBI 2K
Culver 1-2 3B 2RBI
Sanchez 0-3
Kelvin Duran 2-3 1RBI 1SB

Gusto
07-06-10, 12:06 PM
15 strikeouts (12 swinging) in a 7 inning game ... very nice.

mwalvlior
07-07-10, 02:24 PM
Sanchez 2-5 2B 1RBI 1SB 1K
Culver 1-4 2B 1RBI 2K

Richardson good outing 5IP 1H 2BB 1ER 3K

bobbymagee
07-08-10, 03:05 PM
Anyone going to the Tampa Yankees games in Jupiter Florida on July 14, 15, 16, or 17?

ICEBERG18
07-09-10, 01:21 PM
GCL Yankees Top 7th

Pitcher Change: Sean Shoffit replaces Jose Vargas.
Henry Pena singles on a fly ball to center fielder Jacob Marisnick.
Fu-Lin Kuo singles on a ground ball to second baseman Matt Abraham. Henry Pena to 2nd.
With Nathan Aron batting, wild pitch by Sean Shoffit, Henry Pena to 3rd. Fu-Lin Kuo to 2nd.
Nathan Aron hit by pitch.
Jose Rosario strikes out swinging.
Kelvin Duran strikes out swinging.
Anderson Felix walks. Henry Pena scores. Fu-Lin Kuo to 3rd. Nathan Aron to 2nd.
Pitcher Change: Drew Elliott replaces Sean Shoffit.
Gary Sanchez hits a grand slam (4) to left field. Fu-Lin Kuo scores. Nathan Aron scores. Anderson Felix scores.
Reymond Nunez grounds out, shortstop Gari Pena to first baseman Art Charles.

2-4 HR 2B 5RBI R

kongull
07-09-10, 01:23 PM
Guys, dont get attached to the God that is Gary Sanchez, he won't be in Yankee uniform 4 years from now.

bmxstreetrider86
07-09-10, 02:00 PM
Guys, dont get attached to the God that is Gary Sanchez, he won't be in Yankee uniform 4 years from now.

lets not be that bitter.



celebrate the glory that is gary sanchez

kan_t
07-09-10, 03:47 PM
Guys, dont get attached to the God that is Gary Sanchez, he won't be in Yankee uniform 4 years from now.
Or because the Yankees are so confident in him that they are willing to trade away Jesus?

Matsui55
07-09-10, 09:15 PM
GCL Yankees Top 7th

Pitcher Change: Sean Shoffit replaces Jose Vargas.
Henry Pena singles on a fly ball to center fielder Jacob Marisnick.
Fu-Lin Kuo singles on a ground ball to second baseman Matt Abraham. Henry Pena to 2nd.
With Nathan Aron batting, wild pitch by Sean Shoffit, Henry Pena to 3rd. Fu-Lin Kuo to 2nd.
Nathan Aron hit by pitch.
Jose Rosario strikes out swinging.
Kelvin Duran strikes out swinging.
Anderson Felix walks. Henry Pena scores. Fu-Lin Kuo to 3rd. Nathan Aron to 2nd.
Pitcher Change: Drew Elliott replaces Sean Shoffit.
Gary Sanchez hits a grand slam (4) to left field. Fu-Lin Kuo scores. Nathan Aron scores. Anderson Felix scores.
Reymond Nunez grounds out, shortstop Gari Pena to first baseman Art Charles.

2-4 HR 2B 5RBI R

At this rate, is it Charleston or Tampa high A for Sanchez next year?

mwalvlior
07-09-10, 09:20 PM
i say he starts at charleston and maybe moves up to tampa 2nd half?

philleotardo
07-09-10, 09:21 PM
Would Higashioka move up to Tampa in that scenario, despite a poor year?

mwalvlior
07-09-10, 10:17 PM
Would Higashioka move up to Tampa in that scenario, despite a poor year?

no but they could split catching letting sanchez do DH/C like they did with montero and romine? obviously higgy wouldnt dh when gary catches.

yankstaketitle
07-09-10, 10:20 PM
no but they could split catching letting sanchez do DH/C like they did with montero and romine? obviously higgy wouldnt dh when gary catches.

could be a chance but Murphy will be around also

mwalvlior
07-09-10, 10:27 PM
well if murphy has 2/3rds of the year at charleston under his belt maybe he moves up.

yankstaketitle
07-09-10, 10:29 PM
well if murphy has 2/3rds of the year at charleston under his belt maybe he moves up.

oh your right I forgot he has been there for a while now.

If that happens than who in SI? Perkins possibly?

bmxstreetrider86
07-09-10, 11:12 PM
I love Gary but I don't think you put an 18 year old in the fsl, start him in c-town and if he dominates move him up

DWells4prez
07-10-10, 12:00 AM
I love Gary but I don't think you put an 18 year old in the fsl, start him in c-town and if he dominates move him up

Its very doubtful Gary starts in Tampa next year, they will want to get him acclimated to full-season ball first and as you said if he dominates will move up depending on if theirs room.

ArodMVP217
07-10-10, 09:08 AM
I love Gary but I don't think you put an 18 year old in the fsl, start him in c-town and if he dominates move him up

where did cleveland come from?

bmxstreetrider86
07-10-10, 09:14 AM
where did cleveland come from?

Charleston

Matsui55
07-10-10, 07:26 PM
I love Gary but I don't think you put an 18 year old in the fsl, start him in c-town and if he dominates move him up

The only reason I raised Tampa is that there admittedly isn't much in front of him there next season. I agree Charleston would be the right decision, but I just wonder if the Yanks really care whether Sanchez is a long-term C or not.

I think that Montero and Romine will easily get to NY before Sanchez, and even if he is a star, it might be hard to dislodge either one when Sanchez gets to NY. I just wonder whether the Yanks might be more interested in seeing how his bat plays- and if it is as good as we think, whether they will be more interested, as Buzah often speculates, in seeing whether that bat can play at 3B?

bmxstreetrider86
07-10-10, 11:12 PM
Who knows, I'd wager he is a better hitter than romine and a better defender than montero, while having a chance to be better than both in any direction. I'd have him play catcher till the high minors if romine or montero have established themselves in the majors

ICEBERG18
07-12-10, 02:11 PM
Gary Sanchez: 3-4 2R K

Cito Culver: 3-5 R K

McMoose
07-12-10, 02:13 PM
Gary Sanchez: 3-4 2R K

Cito Culver: 3-5 R K

All singles?

bmxstreetrider86
07-12-10, 02:14 PM
Gary is kinda good

Yankee Fan in Boston
07-12-10, 02:15 PM
The only reason I raised Tampa is that there admittedly isn't much in front of him there next season. I agree Charleston would be the right decision, but I just wonder if the Yanks really care whether Sanchez is a long-term C or not.

I think that Montero and Romine will easily get to NY before Sanchez, and even if he is a star, it might be hard to dislodge either one when Sanchez gets to NY. I just wonder whether the Yanks might be more interested in seeing how his bat plays- and if it is as good as we think, whether they will be more interested, as Buzah often speculates, in seeing whether that bat can play at 3B?


You are counting on a lot of things to go right though -- Montero may not be a viable C, and as good as Romine looks, far better prospects have flamed out. I think you have to keep him at C if you think he can handle it.

ICEBERG18
07-12-10, 02:15 PM
All singles?

Yep....

THEBOSS84
07-12-10, 02:17 PM
Gary is kinda good

High BABIP...

bmxstreetrider86
07-12-10, 02:20 PM
High BABIP...


It's a sign he is great hitter/kiethlaw


i dont know what it is after today, but coming into the game it was an absurd .487, his luck adjusted line is still pretty though .317/.428/.593 1.021 ops

Melan-cynic
07-12-10, 02:31 PM
Gary Sanchez: 3-4 2R KBonkers. He and Dellin are going to force the Yankees hand [RE: protocol] if they both continue to ................ on the GCL and FSL respectively.

b_joseph
07-12-10, 02:44 PM
To be fair, when you are hitting .400, your BABIP is gonna be quite high.

It wont take long to see if he is gonna get a correction or if he is just finding this level far too easy. If I had to guess, I'd say he is just finding it easy.

THEBOSS84
07-12-10, 02:45 PM
To be fair, when you are hitting .400, your BABIP is gonna be quite high.

It wont take long to see if he is gonna get a correction or if he is just finding this level far too easy. If I had to guess, I'd say he is just finding it easy.

I definitely wasn't being serious with my post. Just adding fuel to an ongoing fire.

Dexter Morgan
07-12-10, 02:46 PM
Are there any 17 year old's in the Sally league? If not...there should be

b_joseph
07-12-10, 02:48 PM
My bad...as you were.

primetime714
07-12-10, 03:51 PM
You are counting on a lot of things to go right though -- Montero may not be a viable C, and as good as Romine looks, far better prospects have flamed out. I think you have to keep him at C if you think he can handle it.

Completely agree. Plus his trade value will be higher if kept at the C position unless he is simply terrible there doesn't look like he can stick at the position. In that situation you move him to prove that he can play other positions and also to try potentially find a position for him on the Yankees.

Guys like David Adams and Corban Joseph still play 2B even though they have little hope of playing that position with the Yankees.

Posada_20
07-12-10, 03:55 PM
Hopefully Adams can make it back this year. If not, maybe he will be able to play in the Arizona Fall League to make up for so much lost development time this year.

bmxstreetrider86
07-12-10, 04:50 PM
Are there any 17 year old's in the Sally league? If not...there should be



there was, it didnt go so well for him. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t427&t=p_pbp&pid=570267

Melan-cynic
07-12-10, 05:03 PM
there was, it didnt go so well for him. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t427&t=p_pbp&pid=570267Except Santana played the majority of the 2009 GCL season [40 games] before he went into the SAL this year, whereas this is Gary's first season in pro ball. Not to mention Santana struck out in nearly 40% of his atbats (44 of 118) with just 15 BB's during that GCL year. Gary has K'd around 25% with a k/bb rate of 16:9.

bmxstreetrider86
07-12-10, 05:13 PM
Except Santana played the majority of the 2009 GCL season [40 games] before he went into the SAL this year, whereas this is Gary's first season in pro ball. Not to mention Santana struck out in nearly 40% of his atbats (44 of 118) during that GCL year


i wasnt saying gary would struggle, just noted that its tough to play full season ball as a 17 year old

Melan-cynic
07-12-10, 05:16 PM
i wasnt saying gary would struggle, just noted that its tough to play full season ball as a 17 year oldI hear you and I agree. I admit I'm very intrigued by the idea of him in the Sally.

bmxstreetrider86
07-12-10, 05:40 PM
hopefully it happens, im trying to catch a riverdogs/blueclaws game next week

Yankees1962
07-12-10, 06:41 PM
hopefully it happens, im trying to catch a riverdogs/blueclaws game next week
No chance with him going through some language and cultural experiences this year as a 17 year old without taking in consideration his position on the field.

Yankee Fan in Boston
07-12-10, 06:46 PM
No chance with him going through some language and cultural experiences this year as a 17 year old without taking in consideration his position on the field.

Good points. There is a lot of learning going on here

Melan-cynic
07-12-10, 08:58 PM
No chance with him going through some language and cultural experiences this year as a 17 year old without taking in consideration his position on the field.There's a chance he sees Charleston this year, it's just highly unlikely.

mbn007
07-13-10, 11:57 AM
there was, it didnt go so well for him. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t427&t=p_pbp&pid=570267

Putting it mildly.

If your slugging is lower than your OBP, you really are not having things go well.:(

THEBOSS84
07-13-10, 12:04 PM
Putting it mildly.

If your slugging is lower than your OBP, you really are not having things go well.:(

Nick Johnson's 2009 begs to differ -

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsni01.shtml

Melan-cynic
07-13-10, 01:20 PM
^ Nicely done.

mbn007
07-13-10, 03:31 PM
Nick Johnson's 2009 begs to differ -

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsni01.shtml

Career-wise his slugging is above his OBP. Besides, not too many folks average about a walk a game, which is the only way this will otherwise happen. As it did with Nick in 2009 and his small sample of 2010.

THEBOSS84
07-13-10, 03:32 PM
Career-wise his slugging is above his OBP. Besides, not too many folks average about a walk a game, which is the only way this will otherwise happen. As it did with Nick in 2009 and his small sample of 2010.

I know, I know. Just wanted to point out that you CAN be very productive even with a lower SLG than OBP.

awy
07-13-10, 07:35 PM
if your obp is really high, it's a good thing. if your slg is really high, it's a good thing

THEBOSS84
07-13-10, 07:47 PM
if your obp is really high, it's a good thing. if your slg is really high, it's a good thing

If you're really high, it also may be a good thing.

awy
07-13-10, 07:49 PM
not right nowwww

kan_t
07-19-10, 12:24 PM
Is Sanchez hurt? He didn't start today and last game he played was 15/7.

mwalvlior
07-19-10, 12:43 PM
Culver 2-3 2B

McMoose
07-20-10, 07:01 AM
Is Sanchez hurt? He didn't start today and last game he played was 15/7.

Apparently he has a sore wrist so they're just being cautious.

kan_t
07-20-10, 08:37 AM
Apparently he has a sore wrist so they're just being cautious.
Thanks for the update.

Melan-cynic
07-20-10, 11:14 AM
"If it bleeds we can kill it."

dpbddd99
07-20-10, 11:53 AM
DeLuca out in first inning after giving up four runs.

cuse621
07-20-10, 11:59 AM
Man, Deluca has really been struggling thus far! His control is a serious problem right now.

Melan-cynic
07-20-10, 12:43 PM
DeLuca out in first inning after giving up four runs.Didn't someone have DeLuca ranked over guys like Banuelos and Ramirez in that Top 10 Prospect thread? Man was that funny.

kan_t
07-20-10, 01:41 PM
Culver 0-4, 3SO

NY_GOLDENARMS
07-20-10, 02:20 PM
This is the worst GCL team I can remember.

kongull
07-20-10, 02:24 PM
This is the worst GCL team I can remember.

besides a few players, its pretty awful.

NY_GOLDENARMS
07-20-10, 02:35 PM
The most disappointing part is that its packed full of solid talent. I have followed less talented GCL teams perform much better.

Yankees1962
07-20-10, 03:18 PM
This is the worst GCL team I can remember.
It's one of the youngest too.

mbn007
07-21-10, 07:23 AM
It's one of the youngest too.

Tis true.

DominicanYankee
07-23-10, 08:29 AM
This is the worst GCL team I can remember.

I was expecting more too but the team is not that bad at all. Sanchez just smashed the league . Henry Pena it's doing well too (got promoted to A+). Marcano is pitching well (promoted too). Tapia did great too, but got hurt (will be back in the mound today or tomorow, I guess). Quintana is pitching good as well.

Just some starters (Checo, De Luca, Mitchell) and position players like R. Nunez and Duran, haven't showed up as expected.

If you remember the last time they won a championship back in 2007, they had the most impressive talent over the years: Montero, Laird, Abe Almonte, Z. Almonte, Mesa, etc... Top 50 talent.

Seems like Gary Sanchez is the "core" for this team to win, so his time out just hurt them.

awy
07-23-10, 02:05 PM
would be the best team ever if sano is on it as well. guy's continued to bash in the gcl as well

Yankees1962
07-23-10, 05:28 PM
would be the best team ever if sano is on it as well. guy's continued to bash in the gcl as well
Sano's an elite pitcher too????

awy
07-23-10, 05:36 PM
since when is the quality of a gcl team judged by its record.

Blazer
07-23-10, 05:40 PM
since when is the quality of a gcl team judged by its record.

On another team's board there was actually a post saying player x should not be called up because the AAA team was in a pennant race.

ICEBERG18
07-26-10, 03:05 PM
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2010_07_26_yanrok_pirrok_1

dpbddd99
07-27-10, 02:53 PM
Glad to see Sublett is back earlier than expected.

JavyVazquezIsSick
07-28-10, 05:56 AM
This is the worst GCL team I can remember.

When your 1st round pick is Cito Culver, you are bound to have some problems.

kan_t
07-28-10, 12:44 PM
Is Gary Sanchez out of the season? I'm a bit worry.

Melan-cynic
07-28-10, 12:49 PM
Hopefully just being careful with his wrist.

Blazer
07-28-10, 02:23 PM
Is Gary Sanchez out of the season? I'm a bit worry.

I read he has a pulled muscle from running out a grounder. I'll try to find the link after I press submit.

Blazer
07-28-10, 02:24 PM
http://calltothepen.com/2010/07/22/twip-722-bryce-brentz-gary-sanchez-j-d-martinez-and-more/


Gary Sanchez, C, Yankees (Rookie)—Sanchez has missed the last few days with an injury suffered while running out a ground ball, but he could miss two full seasons at his age and still be a coveted prospect.

Sorry, it just says injury.

kan_t
07-28-10, 02:40 PM
http://calltothepen.com/2010/07/22/twip-722-bryce-brentz-gary-sanchez-j-d-martinez-and-more/


Thanks for the information. Hopefully like Melan-cynic said, they are just being careful.

Gusto
07-28-10, 04:44 PM
The GCL Yankees ran hard and often on Leyland's kid today. Six different Yankees with stolen bases.

Posada_20
07-29-10, 12:39 PM
Culver with his first career jack today. Bryan Mitchell with 5 shutout innings, 2 hits, 0 BBs, 5 Ks. Tied 2-2 in 6th

mwalvlior
07-29-10, 12:41 PM
Culver with his first career jack today. Bryan Mitchell with 5 shutout innings, 2 hits, 0 BBs, 5 Ks. Tied 2-2 in 6th

there's some good news from the GCL

Melan-cynic
07-29-10, 01:23 PM
About time.

jeter62375
07-29-10, 01:53 PM
anyone heard about gary sanchez's injury status ??

dpbddd99
07-29-10, 01:54 PM
Baseball America remains high on Flores. "Catcher Gary Sanchez might be the best prospect on this team, but Flores is up there too among the best in the GCL, an advanced hitter with good plate discipline for his age."

mwalvlior
07-29-10, 02:45 PM
Baseball America remains high on Flores. "Catcher Gary Sanchez might be the best prospect on this team, but Flores is up there too among the best in the GCL, an advanced hitter with good plate discipline for his age."

does flores have a natural position cause i see him listed as a LF and then he is playing 1B? obviously at his size he doesnt profile as a 1B and the fact he has 3 3B would speak to him having good speed. thanks.

sjkqw
07-29-10, 03:58 PM
He was supposed to be a RF though he plays LF a lot. The team just got so crowded with Judd Golsan, Kelvin Duran, Henry Pena, and Tyler Austin (though he has played just two games). Nathan Aron was out there earlier in the year. They also try and put Jose Toussen in LF occasionally.

Rey Nunez is the primary 1B, but then they don't have another 1B so with the plethora of OF, Ramon Flores is the only one that really fits there (outside of Austin, but they want him in one position I think).

ICEBERG18
07-31-10, 01:26 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48819375@N08/sets/72157624618648498/show/

#40 Is Sanchez.

From RAB.

yankeelover
07-31-10, 12:32 PM
Boy Evan DeLuca sure is stinking in the GCL. Didn't we over pay for him last year? :mad:

Yankees1962
07-31-10, 12:48 PM
Boy Evan DeLuca sure is stinking in the GCL. Didn't we over pay for him last year? :mad:
Whenever I read posts like yours it reminds me that some Yankee fans have little or no patience in developing prospects whenever said prospects are going slower in their baseball development. By the way, Evan did SO 7 today with only 1 BB in 4 innings.