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BonusCantos
08-22-09, 11:00 PM
Sunday 8/23/09 - JDPNYY's Question of the day (brought to you by guest host BonusCantos):



What countries do your ancestors come from?

Yankees13
08-22-09, 11:01 PM
The 2nd greatest country in the world, Ireland.

CptCrunch
08-22-09, 11:02 PM
Asia.

BonusCantos
08-22-09, 11:02 PM
Since JDP will be closing this thread out, I'll answer now...mostly Italy, some Slovakia.

YanksFan1992
08-22-09, 11:08 PM
Canada and Scotland way back on my mother's side, England and the Isle of Man on my father's side.

MunsonNY15
08-22-09, 11:21 PM
Canada on my father's side (Quebec to be exact) and Germany on my mother's side.

Heidi

yankeeschic12324
08-22-09, 11:30 PM
Jordan and Greece.

patrick.o
08-22-09, 11:58 PM
Ireland, England, France, Canada, and an unknown Indian nation (we'll just say America).

Trish
08-22-09, 11:58 PM
Sunday 8/23/09 - JDPNYY's Question of the day (brought to you by guest host BonusCantos):



What countries do your ancestors come from?

Father's side: Grandfather born in Germany, grandmother born in Czechoslovakia.
Mother's side: Grandfather born in Italy, grandmother born here to Italian parents.

#1PaFan
08-23-09, 12:03 AM
2nd Generation American: Germany & Croatia. :gulp:

#1PaFan
08-23-09, 12:04 AM
Ireland, England, France, Canada, and an unknown Indian nation (we'll just say America).

Ireland? I never would have guessed.

Jeter Kid
08-23-09, 12:09 AM
Scotland.

Bozidar
08-23-09, 12:54 AM
Africa, just like every other human in the history of this planet.

More recently Ireland on Ma's side, and various european on Dad's side including netherlands and germany -- if anyone read my answer to yesterdays question you'll know that i'm not entirely sure on some branches :)

TheYankee
08-23-09, 12:59 AM
Africa, just like every other human in the history of this planet.
Country fail.

Bozidar
08-23-09, 01:00 AM
Country fail.well i dont know what friggin country, they didn't have countries or federated states back then.

Stupid Flanders
08-23-09, 01:07 AM
Before becoming "Americans," my ancestors were from (in order of highest percentage to lowest):
Ireland
Blackfoot Nation of Native Americans
France
Wales
Sweden

TheYankee
08-23-09, 01:14 AM
well i dont know what friggin country, they didn't have countries or federated states back then.I'm just being an ass. Pay me no mind. ;)

Stupid Flanders
08-23-09, 01:16 AM
Africa, just like every other human in the history of this planet.
Oh yeah well my ancestors were particles carried to Earth on comets and asteroids originally ejected from supernovae from other galaxies. What do you think about that smart guy

CallOfTheCrow
08-23-09, 02:12 AM
Scotland.

Sam18
08-23-09, 02:34 AM
^^skirt wearing nancy

Toaderly
08-23-09, 04:07 AM
Irish, French, and English. Big time mutt.

Jersey Yankee
08-23-09, 04:33 AM
Mom: Jamaica
Dad: Panama

johnnyyankee
08-23-09, 05:18 AM
Asia.


What country is that?

johnnyyankee
08-23-09, 05:25 AM
Father's side: Both my grandparents born in NY from Italian parents born in Italy.

Mother's side: Grandmother born in Italy (Sicily), grandfather born in NY from Spanish parents born in Spain.

PalmerGA
08-23-09, 06:13 AM
Sunday 8/23/09 - JDPNYY's Question of the day (brought to you by guest host BonusCantos):What countries do your ancestors come from?England and Scotland

4bronxbombers
08-23-09, 07:30 AM
Father's side: Greece and Armenia
Mother's side: Germany

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
08-23-09, 07:56 AM
Ireland (both sides), Germany (both sides), and the Netherlands (dad's side).

LDG
08-23-09, 08:32 AM
Mother's side: Ireland
Father's side: Ireland and Poland

smr15
08-23-09, 08:48 AM
Father's side : Sicily and Naples ( Italy )
Mother's side : Sicily (Italy), and Ireland and Poland

.... yes, I know Sicily is not a country, but for whatever reason, Italians seem to like to distinguish "mainland" Italians from Sicilians. :)

Mr Coffee
08-23-09, 09:10 AM
They're all from Italy.

I'm purebred unlike some of you mutts.

;)

Bozidar
08-23-09, 09:26 AM
Oh yeah well my ancestors were particles carried to Earth on comets and asteroids originally ejected from supernovae from other galaxies. What do you think about that smart guythey werent ancestors. they were primordial precursors. i think you have to share a large majority of genetic makeup with a being to call it "ancestor", buddy

Bozidar
08-23-09, 09:28 AM
Ireland (both sides), Germany (both sides), and the Netherlands (dad's side).hmmmmmm... guess i wont be using the "do you have a mix of irish german and netherlands in you?" pick up line on you, Ryan..

Bozidar
08-23-09, 09:29 AM
They're all from Italy.

I'm purebred unlike some of you mutts.

;)you've seen True Romance?

Mantle'sMutt
08-23-09, 10:20 AM
Since, according to genetic evidence, we are all out of West Africa, shouldn't that be everyone's answer?

CptCrunch
08-23-09, 10:32 AM
What country is that?

It's a band.

Bozidar
08-23-09, 10:34 AM
Since, according to genetic evidence, we are all out of West Africa, shouldn't that be everyone's answer?you're like 11 hours late on this answer :)

b-ball-lunachick
08-23-09, 11:02 AM
Dad's side: all German
Mom's side: Mostly Irish with a touch of English

I usually just say I'm German and Irish, yet everyone usually guesses Italian. :)

theDurk
08-23-09, 11:15 AM
Mother: County Cork (Ireland)
Father : County Sligo (Ireland) But Black Irish, which means descended from Spanish sailors shipwrecked in Sligo Bay after Sir Francis Drake's defeat of the Spanish Armada. So I can have the joy of being Irish and still get a serious suntan.

LDG
08-23-09, 12:17 PM
Mother: County Cork (Ireland)
Father : County Sligo (Ireland) But Black Irish, which means descended from Spanish sailors shipwrecked in Sligo Bay after Sir Francis Drake's defeat of the Spanish Armada. So I can have the joy of being Irish and still get a serious suntan.

:lol: That reminds me of a line from comedian Greg Fitzsimmons. He said something like, "Irish guys just shouldn't go out in the sun. It's like sticking a fork in a microwave!"

GiambiRocks
08-23-09, 12:33 PM
I have no clue. I never really asked.

jlw1980
08-23-09, 01:11 PM
Country fail. Cpt said "Asia". :lol:

jlw1980
08-23-09, 01:16 PM
Mom's side: German (she's 7/8) and English (1/8)

Dad's side: My dad isn't even clear on his family's countries of origin; I wish I knew because I enjoy learning about heritage. I know there's a small amount of Cherokee and, I think, Sioux - so, like Patrick, I'll say America.

Dad has said that his mom used to talk about "Black Dutch" ancestry. She never defined this and, from what I can find, nobody truly knows what it means. Some claim that they were Germans with dark complexions. Others claim that they were people of mixed European and Native American heritage. Still others claim that they were "Netherlanders of dark complexion who were descendants of the Spanish who occupied the Netherlands in the late 16th century and early 17th centuries".

I doubt I'll ever really know.

http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/hist-bogan/bdutch.html

EDIT:

Wikipedia suggest Scots-Irish descent:


In the United States South, the offspring of Scots-Irish or Ulster Irish immigrants who married Native American, African American, or people of other non-white ancestry have historically called themselves "Black Irish," "Black Dutch," or "Black German" as a reflection of their coloring, and to conceal their origins. This was particularly the case during the Trail of Tears era of the 19th century, when the forced removal of the Cherokee nation from their native land to the Indian Territory, accompanied by laws that forbade Natives to own land, and denied them the right to vote, led both Cherokees and their offspring of mixed race to hide their ethnic heritage. This spurious identification as "Black Irish" or "Black Dutch" has persisted among the descendants of these people for over 100 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

PinstripePride
08-23-09, 01:19 PM
Italia.

jlw1980
08-23-09, 01:23 PM
Mother: County Cork (Ireland)
Father : County Sligo (Ireland) But Black Irish, which means descended from Spanish sailors shipwrecked in Sligo Bay after Sir Francis Drake's defeat of the Spanish Armada. So I can have the joy of being Irish and still get a serious suntan.

Interesting.

I read that the term "Black Irish" is similar to "Black Dutch", in that nobody truly knows what it means.

Wikipedia actually says this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish


The genetic evidence is that the survivors of the Spanish Armada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Armada) probably left no legacy, as the Irish have only minute amounts of Neolithic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic) Near Eastern Y chromosome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome) genetic markers such as E3b (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E3b_%28Y-DNA%29) and J (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_%28Y-DNA%29), both of which are present in significant levels throughout Spain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) (with the exception of the Basque Country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_%28autonomous_community%29)).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish#cite_note-black_irish-5)
Another article states:


...it is unlikely that members of the Spanish Armada could have made a strong enough genetic contribution to the people of Ireland giving rise to the Black Irish. It is more likely that a group of Spanish soldiers serving under Irish chiefs around the same time stayed in the country long enough to father children (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-black-irish.htm#). Others believe that the Black Irish are descendants of a people from the Iberian peninsula who migrated to both Ireland and Britain over 2500 years ago. Recent genetic research (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-genetic-research.htm) has supported this claim. http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-black-irish.htm

allybear
08-23-09, 01:51 PM
We always said my uncle was "Black Irish" - he actually looked a lot like Billy Martin.

Anyway, my mother's parents were from Ireland - my grandfather's people came here in the 1850's and my grandmother came here as a teenager. Her mother came here as a teenager in the 1920's.

My father's parents came here from Germany in the 1930's.

Mantle'sMutt
08-23-09, 04:23 PM
Black Irish. Shaq Daddy.

Mantle'sMutt
08-23-09, 04:25 PM
you're like 11 hours late on this answer :)

Yeah, sometimes I don't bother to read anyone else's answers.

Mantle'sMutt
08-23-09, 04:25 PM
They're all from Italy.

I'm purebred unlike some of you mutts.

;)

Always with the insults.

fredgmuggs
08-23-09, 04:30 PM
My mom was born in Argentina but her parents came from Europe (they left Europe right after WW!). They were Austrian and French.

My dad's family background is Dutch, English, Irish and native American.

Stick Michael
08-23-09, 05:02 PM
Queens and the Bronx.

Maynerd
08-23-09, 06:10 PM
On my Dad's side: very much Irish. My Grandmother was born in County Cork, and had the brogue to prove it.

On my Mom's side: Bohemia. I never heard this side of the family refer to being from Czechoslovakia. Only Bohemia.

I owe an unspeakable debt to my Grandparents and Great Grandparents. For despite where they were born, my parents and I had the great honor and privilege of being born as citizens of the United States.

bobbymagee
08-23-09, 06:17 PM
I was adopted:
biological - Italian
adoptive - Irish, German and Lithuanian

Soriambi
08-23-09, 08:19 PM
Ireland, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Russia, Romania, France.

Yankchic22
08-23-09, 09:02 PM
Mom's side - Irish/German

Dad's side - Irish/ Puerto Rican/ Spaniard

My stepfather who raised me though was 100% Italian, and that's all I ever really knew until now.

JL25and3
08-23-09, 09:40 PM
They were from place that are now Belarus, Poland, and somewhere near the Belarus-Lithuania border, I'm not sure which side...but back then they were all from the Russian Empire.

Most correct, I suppose, would be to say that they were all from The Pale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement You want to say that's not a country, fine, but it's where they were from. They weren't Russians - they were Jews, and they lived where Jews were allowed to live.

jlw1980
08-23-09, 10:10 PM
They were from place that are now Belarus, Poland, and somewhere near the Belarus-Lithuania border, I'm not sure which side...but back then they were all from the Russian Empire.

Most correct, I suppose, would be to say that they were all from The Pale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement You want to say that's not a country, fine, but it's where they were from. They weren't Russians - they were Jews, and they lived where Jews were allowed to live.
Your ancestors must have been very courageous people, to have survived the intense and systematic discrimination and horrific genocides that they did. :(

Were your parents born in this country, Dr. John?

DrNick
08-23-09, 10:44 PM
Sunday 8/23/09 - JDPNYY's Question of the day (brought to you by guest host BonusCantos):



What countries do your ancestors come from?

Mothers side Italy, fathers side Ireland

JDPNYY
08-23-09, 10:50 PM
My answer: Ireland

This concludes Sunday's Question of the day


How many people actually answered the question that was asked today? Answer - 33 (It's my opinion that no one failed to answer the question as asked today)

...and now for the awards, by the power vested in me by JDPNYY:

JDPNYY's Sunday 8/23/09 Post of the Day:
No awards today. No one has ancestors that are any better than anyone elses.


Thanks for sharing today all. Thanks to Jennifer and Joe for filling in for me this weekend.


JDPNYY's Sunday 8/23/09 One Liner Post of the Day:
No posts meet this criteria today





Points Standings
JDPNYY 100
fredgmuggs 24
RYMASTER & BxBomber44 & Soriambi 20
JL25and3 15
Trish 12
Yankchic22 & Stupid Flanders & b-ball-lunachick 10
Mantle'sMutt 5
Maynerd 2
CptCrunch 1

Negative Points Crew
Allybear & jlw1980 & Jersey Yankee (1)
Toaderly (3)
4bronxbombers & johnnyyankee (5)
Bozidar (38)


Feel free to carry on any discussions.

Please don't give any new answers to this QoD.



Feel free to discuss the awards as well

JL25and3
08-23-09, 11:38 PM
Your ancestors must have been very courageous people, to have survived the intense and systematic discrimination and horrific genocides that they did. :(

Were your parents born in this country, Dr. John?Both my parents and one of my grandparents were born here.

theDurk
08-24-09, 12:05 AM
Interesting.

I read that the term "Black Irish" is similar to "Black Dutch", in that nobody truly knows what it means.

Wikipedia actually says this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

Another article states:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-black-irish.htm

Take your Wikipedia up to Sligo and Mayo and see what THEY say. I went there, and that's what people with my surname told me. Of course, Wilkipedia knows all. I'm sticking to my story and my suntan.

jlw1980
08-24-09, 12:45 AM
Thanks for sharing today all. Thanks to Jennifer and Joe for filling in for me this weekend.

No problem. :)

jlw1980
08-24-09, 02:31 AM
Take your Wikipedia up to Sligo and Mayo and see what THEY say. I went there, and that's what people with my surname told me. Of course, Wilkipedia knows all. I'm sticking to my story and my suntan.

Nah, I don't think Wikipedia knows all. The non-Wikipedia article I mentioned, as well as a few other sources I found when looking up both Black Irish and Black Dutch (for info on my own ancestry), supported the idea that there is a genetic link to the Basques and that the link goes back thousands of years.


"On the Y-chromosome the Celtic populations turn out to be statistically indistinguishable from the Basques," Professor Goldstein said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1256894.stm

Also, Queen Elizabeth had most of the invaders from the Armada put to death. A few, but not many, escaped to Scotland. Aside from the scientific evidence (both for a Basque link and no Spanish link), Major Martin Hume said this in a 1906 edition of The Geographic Journal (a scientific journal of the Royal Geographic Society, published since 1831):


Anyone who goes along the coast of Ireland and along the Devonshire (SW England) coast will in one locality after another find that the inhabitants of this or that village are asserted to be descendants of the men from the Armada wrecked upon their coast; that the dark complexion of the population is owing to the fact that a number of men of the Armada settled and married in that part of the district.

...

There is very small foundation for this, either with regard to Ireland or the West of England. In the end of the year 1588, Fitz William reported that, with the exception of a few score wandering Spaniards, the whole of the rest had been either killed or had escaped to Scotland. In 1596 there was a letter written ... by six men who had escaped and remained in O'Donnel's country, appealing to the King [Philip II] to let them come back to Spain. They said they alone remained of all who landed. These were six men, and this was only eight years after the Armada was defeated. Even supposing these men were wrong and there were a dozen or two more in various parts, there were never enough men to influence in the slightest degree the complexion or the ethnological peculiarities of the inhabitants of the Irish coast.


At any rate, it's all just food for thought. Researching one's ancestry is a fascinating journey! :)