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NavyTim
05-19-08, 08:37 PM
Congrats - all he has been through. Give it up to the kid...

Mr. Mxylsplk
05-19-08, 08:38 PM
Not too shabby.

Gringaloca
05-19-08, 08:39 PM
I was watching on MLB EI..:)

Gotta give the kid his 'props'...Good job, Jon Lester.

CyYoung4Vazquez
05-19-08, 08:39 PM
How cute.

Byron
05-19-08, 08:40 PM
Must be nice.

Sox fans, I'm jealous - and I'm going to have this feeling for a loooong time it seems.

yanksphan
05-19-08, 08:40 PM
The Twins must be kicking themselves.

Nice job. Now suck from here on out.

nhyankeefan
05-19-08, 08:40 PM
Congratulations Jon. He looked good tonight, I guess this is what the sox saw when they said he'd be a #2 or #3 pitcher.

YanksFan1992
05-19-08, 08:41 PM
So it looks like the Sox are going to continue to be good for quite a while. :doh:

CallOfTheCrow
05-19-08, 08:43 PM
Whatever.

Rice14
05-19-08, 08:43 PM
Congrats to Jon Lester.

Did I just hear that Jason Varitek set a record by catching his 4th career no hitter?

TW9
05-19-08, 08:46 PM
Nice moment between Lester and Tito... Couldn't happen to a nicer kid. Beckett/Lester/Buchholz/Matsuzaka/Masterson....pretty scary young staff.

shum87nyy
05-19-08, 08:47 PM
when will we finally throw one again... its been 9 years!
When will we finally win one again... its been 8 years!
The Sox have done each twice since our lasts...

B.A.
05-19-08, 08:48 PM
Good for him, nice to see him battle all the way back from his ailment and have that achievement.

jlw1980
05-19-08, 08:49 PM
Who cares? It wasn't a perfect game. :snooze:

Rich
05-19-08, 08:51 PM
Wonders never cease.

BroadwayBomber55
05-19-08, 08:59 PM
Congrats Jon Lester.

4th Red Sox picther in this decade to throw a no-hitter. The other three: Hideo Nomo, Derek Lowe, and Clay Buchholz.

First no-hittter from a southpaw since Mark Buehrle did it on April 18, 2007.

ruthianblast
05-19-08, 09:00 PM
Congrats to Lester; amazing performance.

nhyankeefan
05-19-08, 09:00 PM
Congrats Jon Lester.

4th Red Sox pitcher to throw a no-hitter. The other three: Hideo Nomo, Derek Lowe, and Clay Buchholz.

First no-hittter from a southpaw since Mark Buehrle did it on April 18, 2007.

Nomo was the first sox pitcher to throw a no hitter? That happened in 99, they must have had one earlier than that.

Mark19
05-19-08, 09:01 PM
May he follow in the foot steps of that other immortal lefty Eric Milton.

EvanJ
05-19-08, 09:03 PM
Did I just hear that Jason Varitek set a record by catching his 4th career no hitter?
Varitek has caught 4 of the 12 most recent no-hitters:
Lester
Buchholz last year
Hideo Nomo at Baltimore April 4, 2001
Derek Lowe vs. Tampa Bay April 27, 2002

Sources: http://mlb.com/mlb/history/rare_feats/index.jsp?feature=no_hitter for the dates and http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/PlayerInfo.py?StartDate=09%2F24%2F1997&EndDate=05%2F18%2F2008&GameType=all&PlayedFor=0&PlayedVs=0&Park=0&PlayerID=217 to check that Varitek played in those games.

The last time a team pitched a no-hitter after having pitched another no-hitter less than a year before that was Philadelphia with Terry Mulholland on August 15, 1990 and Tommy Greene on May 23, 1991.

NavyTim
05-19-08, 09:03 PM
Nomo was the first sox pitcher to throw a no hitter? That happened in 99, they must have had one earlier than that.

18 total. Those were the last 4....

ShortPorch
05-19-08, 09:06 PM
May he follow in the foot steps of that other immortal lefty Eric Milton.
Oh no, we wouldn't want the Sox having a future HoFer like Eric "Cy" Milton.

Gringaloca
05-19-08, 09:09 PM
18 total. Those were the last 4....

Yep, 18 total..here's the link from mlb.com They don't list all 18, tho':(

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080519&content_id=2731480&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Not sure where we'd find that info...probably in tomorrows edition of the Globe?..:D

or on ESPN ...;)

wang+cano=future
05-19-08, 09:11 PM
Wow Lester with a no-hitter????? Jeez congrats I guess......

Yankeeah
05-19-08, 09:12 PM
Yep, 18 total..here's the link from mlb.com They don't list all 18, tho':(

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080519&content_id=2731480&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

Not sure where we'd find that info...probably in tomorrows edition of the Globe?..:D

or on ESPN ...;)

They really need to invent some sort of engine, that you can search things in. This engine, would then return the information you are looking for in less than 2 seconds. They should give it a weird name. Perhaps....google.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/20/sports/BBA-Red-Sox-No-Hitters.php

BillBuckner
05-19-08, 09:15 PM
Congrats to Lester. Talk about an amazing comeback in the last 2 years or so.

BroadwayBomber55
05-19-08, 09:15 PM
Nomo was the first sox pitcher to throw a no hitter? That happened in 99, they must have had one earlier than that.
I meant this decade. *wearing the D'oh Dunce Cap*

Yankeeah
05-19-08, 09:20 PM
ESPN just ran a graphic saying the Sox are the first team to have consecutive years with no-hitters since the Angels in the 60's.

Guess Wells in 98 and Cone in 99 don't count. Granted, they were perfect games, but does that not qualify it?

Rice14
05-19-08, 09:24 PM
ESPN just ran a graphic saying the Sox are the first team to have consecutive years with no-hitters since the Angels in the 60's.

Guess Wells in 98 and Cone in 99 don't count. Granted, they were perfect games, but does that not qualify it?

Not to mention the Phillies did it in the early 90's with Mulholland and Tommy Greene.

goin for 27
05-19-08, 09:24 PM
Congratulations Jon Lester. I saw the last few innings. The kid has been through a lot, and was VERY sharp (obviously) late. Well done.

Hope to compliment someone in pinstripes for the same very soon.

EvanJ
05-19-08, 09:26 PM
ESPN just ran a graphic saying the Sox are the first team to have consecutive years with no-hitters since the Angels in the 60's.

Guess Wells in 98 and Cone in 99 don't count. Granted, they were perfect games, but does that not qualify it?

My dad said he thinks ESPN was talking about cases where no other players had no-hitters in between, not no-hitters in consecutive years (they provided the years but the time between no-hitters was coincidental). That makes sense because Jose Jimenez of St. Louis pitched a no-hitter in between Wells and Cone.

Rice14 named the last time a team had two no-hitters less than a year apart.

Gringaloca
05-19-08, 09:29 PM
They really need to invent some sort of engine, that you can search things in. This engine, would then return the information you are looking for in less than 2 seconds. They should give it a weird name. Perhaps....google.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/20/sports/BBA-Red-Sox-No-Hitters.php

HaaaHaaa..funny. I was searching Baseball-Reference.com..maybe I will try that 'google' thingy next time..:eek: ;) (smartass:D )

Brooklyn Yankee Fan
05-19-08, 09:30 PM
Congrats to Lester. This is a great feat for him, considering his physical being in the past with the cancer he had.

-tz
05-19-08, 09:31 PM
It's all because I wasn't around to jinx him.

Sorry, no congrats from me. I wish he had gotten bombed.

Brooklyn Yankee Fan
05-19-08, 09:35 PM
It's all because I wasn't around to jinx him.

Sorry, no congrats from me. I wish he had gotten bombed.

I'm a sucker for the feel good stories.

The only thing I don't like is how because its the Red Sox, I don't think we'll ever hear the end of it.

-tz
05-19-08, 09:40 PM
I'm a sucker for the feel good stories.It doesn't make me feel good.

I wish the kid had gone into some other sport, like hockey or Aussie rules football. I'd be happy to root for him to do well under those circumstances.

SoxFanInCali
05-19-08, 09:42 PM
ESPN just ran a graphic saying the Sox are the first team to have consecutive years with no-hitters since the Angels in the 60's.

Guess Wells in 98 and Cone in 99 don't count. Granted, they were perfect games, but does that not qualify it?
The graphic said the Sox are the first team to have thrown the last 2 consecutive no-hitters in the majors since the Angels in 1973 (Nolan Ryan both times).

Wells and Cone were in consecutive years, but Jose Jimenez threw one for the Cards in between them.

Dave Visbeck
05-19-08, 09:44 PM
They really need to invent some sort of engine, that you can search things in. This engine, would then return the information you are looking for in less than 2 seconds. They should give it a weird name. Perhaps....google.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/20/sports/BBA-Red-Sox-No-Hitters.php

That list is missing a name. In front of Ernie Shore. Shore didn't start that perfect game. ;)

Tyler Durden
05-19-08, 09:44 PM
As much as I wish he got shelled, you have to at least tip your cap to a kid that went through as much as he did to be able to accomplish that feat. At least we all know what ESPN will be covering for the next 49 1/2 hours.

Anyone else miss the 90's right now? :(

Bronson'sCornrows
05-19-08, 09:48 PM
Congrats to Jon Lester.

Did I just hear that Jason Varitek set a record by catching his 4th career no hitter?

I'm very surprised, but it's true. I would have thought some catcher who played mid-60's to early 80's would have had more...

I'm also surprised to see that Charles Johnson has caught 3 as well. We he noted as being a particularly good behind the dish? I remember him mostly as a bat.

Brooklyn Yankee Fan
05-19-08, 09:50 PM
Sorry to get off topic, but what is your avatar from Bronson'sCornrows? Is that a movie?

John C Reilly :lol:

NYYPride4Life
05-19-08, 09:52 PM
Too bad he didnt pull and Andy Hawkins and lose while tossing the no hitter!! Having had several family members suffer through cancer without recovering, I give it up to him for his accomplishment! Other then that, I hope the rest of his career he pitches to a 6+ ERA and suffers loss after loss at the sox' expense!

ksison
05-19-08, 10:05 PM
congrats to Jon Lester. he pitched his a** off tonight

Dave Visbeck
05-19-08, 10:07 PM
As much as I wish he got shelled, you have to at least tip your cap to a kid that went through as much as he did to be able to accomplish that feat.

Lester has gone through a heck of a lot.

Should be mentioned that it has been nearly fifty-two full seasons since a Red Sox lefty has pitched a no-hitter. Mel Parnell pitched one in July of 1956 -- which also happened to be pitched at Fenway. All-in-all, Red Sox lefties have pitched only three no-hitters at Fenway Park in its history. (1912)

Mr. Mxylsplk
05-19-08, 10:16 PM
Too bad he didnt pull and Andy Hawkins and lose while tossing the no hitter!!
Sadly Andy Hawkins is no longer credited with a no-hitter, since mlb changed the rules in 1991 to require a full 9 innings to qualify. As a road loser, Hawkins only had to pitch 8. (But more to the point, I agree, it is too bad Lester couldn't match that).

NYYPride4Life
05-19-08, 10:20 PM
Sadly Andy Hawkins is no longer credited with a no-hitter, since mlb changed the rules in 1991 to require a full 9 innings to qualify. As a road loser, Hawkins only had to pitch 8. (But more to the point, I agree, it is too bad Lester couldn't match that).

Thank you for pointing that out! I've gotten crapped on quite a few times as being a fan of a team who's member lost a no-hitter! I was young at the time but I still remember jim leyritz making a big error in RF during that game!

NYYPride4Life
05-19-08, 10:22 PM
Lester has gone through a heck of a lot.

Should be mentioned that it has been nearly fifty-two full seasons since a Red Sox lefty has pitched a no-hitter. Mel Parnell pitched one in July of 1956 -- which also happened to be pitched at Fenway. All-in-all, Red Sox lefties have pitched only three no-hitters at Fenway Park in its history. (1912)

Isnt 52 full seasons as a sox lefty still shorter then any met who throws with either arm? :) just sayin'

Ljberkow12
05-19-08, 10:35 PM
The Twins must be kicking themselves.

Nice job. Now suck from here on out.

Hard to know what the Twins actually turned down. They wanted 2 of 3 of Lester/Buchholz/Ellsbury in much the same way they wanted 2 of the Yankees top prospects Kennedy/Hughes. In the end, it seemed as if the Twins took less just to get Santana out of the AL.

Lester still is not a consistent pitcher. But he's got outstanting stuff and will develop.

ColombiaYanksFan
05-19-08, 10:41 PM
Lester still is not a consistent pitcher. But he's got outstanting stuff and will develop.

Who is a consistent pitcher now a days except for Brandon Webb?

This kid Lester, with his outstanding pitching in last year's playoff, plus a no hitter already, only shows signs of a superstar in the making.

nnysiny
05-19-08, 10:45 PM
good for Jon, but boy is it a depressing time for Yankees fans. the two franchises are worlds apart. i dont believe in curses, but what the Yankees have is the next best thing

Jilali
05-19-08, 10:46 PM
I'm also surprised to see that Charles Johnson has caught 3 as well. We he noted as being a particularly good behind the dish? I remember him mostly as a bat.

I remember him mostlly as a defensive specialist-type catcher. Serious serious arm, IIR. He developed a little power at some point* but I'd bet around a .250 career hitter. Don't remember hearing much about his game calling abilities.

*As many did in the mid-late 90s.

frostdude1
05-19-08, 11:08 PM
This topic should be locked and deleted

YanksFan1992
05-19-08, 11:11 PM
This topic should be locked and deleted

No it really shouldn't be.

Unless a bunch of Red Sox fans come into this thread and start poking fun at Yankees fans I really don't see a problem with it.

JohnnyDamonfan
05-19-08, 11:24 PM
Congratulations kid! I kinda feel good for him because after battling back from cancer I think he was due for one of these. Do me a favor though Lester if you're gonna throw another one of these make sure it's not against the Yankees okay?;)

I'm hoping to see the thread "Phil Hughes throws a no hitter" in the near future.

NYYRules#1
05-20-08, 12:09 AM
I have to admit, I respect the hell out of this kid. He's battled back from a horrible illness, and he's extremely talented. I'm not going to lie, I'd love to have him on the Yankees. I can see why the Sox refused to deal him at all, even in the A-Rod and Beckett deals - I'd have to imagine they're quite happy they made that decision, considering his success.

I'll never root for him until he's out of Boston, but he's one Sox player that I have a ton of respect for.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
05-20-08, 12:12 AM
Last time I checked, Jon Lester pitches for the Red Sox. This all belongs in, you know, the Red Sox Thread Version 2.0 (http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=111042).

Luvtino
05-20-08, 01:16 AM
Congrats to Jon Lester. I'm sure this is just icing on the cake for him and his family after his battle with cancer. God bless him.

Dave Visbeck
05-20-08, 01:54 AM
Congrats to Jon Lester. I'm sure this is just icing on the cake for him and his family after his battle with cancer. God bless him.

Really nice. :)

WashingtonYankee
05-20-08, 02:37 AM
Hate the team, but Jon is one of my baseball idols. Congrats to him. :)

montrealer
05-20-08, 05:22 AM
Congratulations Jon Lester.....

Rice14
05-20-08, 06:12 AM
I'm hoping to see the thread "Phil Hughes throws a no hitter" in the near future.

If he hadn't pulled his hammy, you may have seen that thread last season.At the least, he showed he has that type of stuff.

kongull
05-20-08, 06:57 AM
unbelievable that their two young guns to this back-to-back years.

YankeePride1967
05-20-08, 07:04 AM
Very impressive. Congrats!

YankeeGalSC
05-20-08, 07:15 AM
Nice job.

Tabata
05-20-08, 07:36 AM
Meh, maybe throw a perfect game for once and I'll sit up and pay attention.

yankeesnumber1
05-20-08, 08:12 AM
Definitely congrats to Jon Lester! He's a huge inspiration.....awesome

ynkefan23
05-20-08, 08:13 AM
when will we finally throw one again... its been 9 years!
When will we finally win one again... its been 8 years!
The Sox have done each twice since our lasts...

for starters...congrats to Jon, after all he went through you are not human if you aren't happy for him.

That being said...it's official..we have "switched sides"- ever since Dave Roberts stole 2nd base in Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS we have switched.

We won in 96 (Doc's no-no), 98 (Wells perfecto), 99 (Coney), 00. We have not won since and are 4-13 in the postseason.

The Redsox have one 2 Championships and have now pitched the 2 no-hitters...

Pinstripe Pride23
05-20-08, 08:16 AM
Congrats to Lester.

JoePepitonesHair
05-20-08, 08:58 AM
The kid was throwing 96 mph in the ninth inning.....wow. So much for the Hughes/Kennedy vs. Lester/Buchholz argument.

blumj
05-20-08, 09:26 AM
And Joe Posnanski was there to see it, and write about it.


And as I left Fenway Park, I thought again about that feeling I had, that feeling you get sometimes as a sports fan, that feeling that "Hey, I'm going to see something unforgettable." Truth is, most of the time, the feeling dies inside you because unforgettable things don't happen very often. Here's the great thing, though. Sometimes, they do.


http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/05/20/fenway-and-no-hitters/#comments

Hildy910
05-20-08, 09:46 AM
Joe P. has got to be my favorite baseball writer currently working. I checked his blog first thing hoping for a post from him, but it wasn't up yet. Thanks for posting it.

Mr. Mxylsplk
05-20-08, 10:24 AM
Thank you for pointing that out! I've gotten crapped on quite a few times as being a fan of a team who's member lost a no-hitter! I was young at the time but I still remember jim leyritz making a big error in RF during that game!
Heck, I was at a game where a pitcher got a no-hitter and later lost it. Melido Perez' rain-shortened no-hitter against us at YS in 1990.

DontHateOnNumber2
05-20-08, 11:54 AM
I think it's awesome that he was able to come back and no-hit a Royals team that was playing pretty well. Though I now hope the Red Sox have a nice 15 game losing streak or something close to it.

brosiusbuddy
05-20-08, 11:58 AM
Good for him. I'm going to start a similar thread for the next Yankee pitcher who can get a win because it would be just as amazing a feat. This blows.

Nimrod
05-20-08, 12:04 PM
This topic should be locked and deleted
You should be banned and deleted

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
05-20-08, 12:13 PM
You should be banned and deleted

And you are who exactly?

tdel23
05-20-08, 01:05 PM
I was hoping one of the Royals would get a cheap hit in the 9th.

Dow Jones
05-20-08, 01:06 PM
I didn't even realize Lester had a no-no going until they cut into the Cubs game. I was very surprised that Lester had thrown so many pitches but I was REALLY surprised that he only walked 2 people the whole game. In my limited Lester viewing he has always struck me as the type of pitcher who has pretty good stuff but nibbles and misses so often that his stuff gets lost in the poor location. If that kid can turn the corner and stop falling behind hitters and walking so many people and getting so many baserunners he could really be a great part of that rotation.

Thing is, I don't necessarily think that's the case. I think he just had a good night against an impatient bad offense. At least, I'm hoping so.....

NDBoston
05-20-08, 01:50 PM
And you are who exactly?

Do you prefer RyMaster or Ryan_Yankees?

jeterdaman
05-20-08, 02:19 PM
I think it's very impressive. These are still Major League players. I'd be surprised if every single pitcher in the majors right now went and pitched against a AAA team or even a AA team and pitched a no hitter.

It's impressive any way you look at it and can't be diminished by saying it was "only against the Royals"

NYPenn
05-20-08, 03:07 PM
And Joe Posnanski was there to see it, and write about it.




http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/05/20/fenway-and-no-hitters/#comments

It's fortunate that Posnanski was there to craft such a terrific story; it's a perfect complement to Lester's feat.

penguin4
05-20-08, 03:11 PM
That list is missing a name. In front of Ernie Shore. Shore didn't start that perfect game. ;)But then, it wasn't really a perfect game, now, was it?

I think it's an absolutely wonderful story, though -- I just wish it was for one of the other 29 teams.

I remember a couple years ago when he was diagnosed, just thinking how unfair it was that a 22-year-old kid should have to go through this. Between Lester and Lowell, the Sox have enough "I survived cancer to do great things on the field" stories for everyone.

On another note, I'm really glad my shift ended early or I would've had to deal with this stuff. For once, luck worked my way.

4bronxbombers
05-20-08, 03:23 PM
^^^^ Agreed. Good for Lester....nice job. I wish it happened to any other team.

-tz
05-20-08, 03:55 PM
Let's hope Lester threw so many pitches that he will be totally ineffective in his next start. Otherwise, I don't know why this thread is here.

NYDCYankee
05-20-08, 06:00 PM
I love seeing no-hitters, I was even rooting for Daniel Cabrera when he almost no hit the Yanks and Cano broke it up in the ninth. Of course I won't be rooting for Cabrera tonight.

Congrats Lester.

mgpenguin
05-20-08, 06:11 PM
Congrats to Lester. You'd have to be a heartless jerk to not feel good for him...

Prison Mike
05-20-08, 07:25 PM
I wouldn't wish what he went through on anybody- and the fact that he came back to throw a no hitter is a great story. Congrats to J. Lester.

CallOfTheCrow
05-20-08, 10:59 PM
Congrats to Lester. You'd have to be a heartless jerk to not feel good for him...

Well consider me a heartless jerk for not rooting for his success now that he's healthy & happy.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
05-20-08, 11:00 PM
Well consider me a heartless jerk for not rooting for his success now that he's healthy & happy.

Me too.

CallOfTheCrow
05-20-08, 11:03 PM
Me too.

Seriously, I can't stand posts like his.

Why should I feel good about his no-hitter? I'm glad he's cancer free & back on the mound. Isn't that enough? I was unaware that we're supposed to root for his success from here on out.

mgpenguin
05-20-08, 11:40 PM
Seriously, I can't stand posts like his.

Why should I feel good about his no-hitter? I'm glad he's cancer free & back on the mound. Isn't that enough? I was unaware that we're supposed to root for his success from here on out. You may want to re-read my post. I'm not asking you to root for his success, rather to feel good someone's accomplishments. Forget the cancer issue and what it took to come back. He did something special and people say "whatever" for no other reason than the fact that he plays for the Sox. I hate people like that. The rivalry doesn't mean so much to me that I can't possibly feel good when someone does as special as throw a no-hitter. I don't root for pitchers on other teams to throw no-hitters, but I congratulate and feel good about their accomplishments if the do get one.

CallOfTheCrow
05-20-08, 11:47 PM
You may want to re-read my post. I'm not asking you to root for his success, rather to feel good someone's accomplishments. Forget the cancer issue and what it took to come back. He did something special and people say "whatever" for no other reason than the fact that he plays for the Sox. I hate people like that. The rivalry doesn't mean so much to me that I can't possibly feel good when someone does as special as throw a no-hitter. I don't root for pitchers on other teams to throw no-hitters, but I congratulate and feel good about their accomplishments if the do get one.

Okay. Let me ask you this, by not supporting this no-hitter, why does it make me & others a "heartless jerk" as you claim?

Let's say he played for the Cubs, if nobody cared...would they still be considered "heartless" to you?

mgpenguin
05-20-08, 11:52 PM
Okay. Let me ask you this, by not supporting this no-hitter, why does it make me & others a "heartless jerk" as you claim?

Let's say he played for the Cubs, if nobody cared...would they still be considered "heartless" to you?
Yes. The point is that you are refusing to feel good about a player's accomplishments because he's not on your team. It's selfish and, yes, heartless. The deed is done, so why refuse to feel good about it? Is there any logical reason to be a curmudgeon?

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
05-20-08, 11:55 PM
Yes. The point is that you are refusing to feel good about a player's accomplishments because he's not on your team. It's selfish and, yes, heartless. The deed is done, so why refuse to feel good about it? Is there any logical reason to be a curmudgeon?

Why feel good about it, if I don't even care about it?

CallOfTheCrow
05-20-08, 11:56 PM
Yes. The point is that you are refusing to feel good about a player's accomplishments because he's not on your team. It's selfish and, yes, heartless. The deed is done, so why refuse to feel good about it? Is there any logical reason to be a curmudgeon?

Why should I feel good about it? What does his, let alone a Boston Red Sox pitcher's accomplishment make me, a New York Yankees fan, feel good about?

Who put you in charge of the moral police anyway? Selfish & heartless? That's hilarious.

CallOfTheCrow
05-21-08, 12:04 AM
Justin Masterson got his very first big league win today. Does that brighten your day more so if he didn't?

mgpenguin
05-21-08, 12:06 AM
Why should I feel good about it? What does his, let alone a Boston Red Sox pitcher's accomplishment make me, a New York Yankees fan, feel good about?

Who put you in charge of the moral police anyway? Selfish & heartless? That's hilarious. Why are you getting so flustered about this? A player accomplished something that every pitcher hopes for and very few ever actually achieve. Why is it so hard for you to say "Good job, sir, for attaining this feat. I feel good for you on this day, but mind you, not a day longer, for you are employed by a team which rivals mine." It seems like any baseball fan should be able to understand what happened and simply say "good job" instead of "whatever". But alas, some people just don't get it...

Moral police? Laughable. I made a passing remark in my post and you said "I can't stand people like this", then you twisted my words and made it seem like I wanted people to root for the Sox. Nice.

CallOfTheCrow
05-21-08, 12:10 AM
Why are you getting so flustered about this? A player accomplished something that every pitcher hopes for and very few every actually achieve. Why is it so hard for you to say "Good job, sir, for attaining this feat. I feel good for you on this day, but mind you, not a day longer, for you are employed by a team which rivals mine." It seems like any baseball fan should be able to understand what happened and simply say "good job" instead of "whatever". But alas, some people just don't get it...

Moral police? Laughable. I made a passing remark in my post and you said "I can't stand people like this", then you twisted my words and made it seem like I wanted people to root for the Sox. Nice.

I'm not flustered...I'm explaining myself & why I feel the way I do;)

You are calling anyone that doesn't feel good for the guy "a heartless jerk" hence my moral police comment.

I never said you wanted people to root for the Sox so who's twisting words now?

Squid
05-21-08, 07:07 AM
Hey, if anyone would like to take this discussion in a direction that I think we can all agree on ...

... since Mr. Lester is a survivor of lymphoma ...

... and I happen to be training for the 2008 Nautica New York City Triathlon to benefit The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society ...

... why not donate to the cause, through my official donation website! :-)

(It's in my signature below.)

I may not throw a no-hitter, but I will be attempting to swim a mile in the Hudson River off the Upper West Side of Manhattan, cycle 25 miles into the Bronx and back, and run 6.2 miles around Central Park -- while helping to cure the kind of blood and lymph cancers that affected Mr. Lester.

Thanks!

YankeePride1967
05-21-08, 07:12 AM
The fact that Lester recovered from lymphoma and threw a no-hitter are not the same issue. I am very happy he has recovered from the cancer and hope he stays in full remission. Had the score Monday been 1, 2 or 3 to 0, I'd have been rooting like hell for KC to get hits. But at 7-0, the game was over. Just like I would for any pitcher (that I didn't dislike), I was rooting for the no-no at that point (once it reached the 9th).

Squid
05-21-08, 07:18 AM
Personally, I don't think could really root for it, but I can appreciate it, if that makes any sense ... Hey, look, there's my lymphoma-fightin' signature again! :-)

NYDCYankee
05-21-08, 07:22 AM
Seriously, I can't stand posts like his.

Why should I feel good about his no-hitter?

Because no-hitter's are super awesome and they are part of what make baseball great.

Reggie Smith
05-21-08, 07:54 AM
Of course, many of you are basing this on the assumption that some are human beings first, baseball fans second.

Pepper03
05-21-08, 05:45 PM
Because no-hitter's are super awesome and they are part of what make baseball great.

I remember July 4, 1983, rooting for a Yankee pitcher to throw a no-hitter AGAINST the Red Sox.


That was a lifetime ago!

johnnerr
05-21-08, 05:56 PM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

Casey at the Bat
05-21-08, 07:40 PM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

You really need to get out more. There is more to life than just the red sox/ yankees.

johnnerr
05-21-08, 07:55 PM
You really need to get out more. There is more to life than just the red sox/ yankees.

well, we're all writing our opinions on this forum when it comes down to it. so maybe you really need to get out too. i hear fresh air is good for your lungs once in a while.;)

Reggie Smith
05-21-08, 07:55 PM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

What, no mention of Schilling or Beckett?:dunno:

O'Neill's 3b + E
05-21-08, 10:16 PM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

I'm glad you ended this post with "go Yankees," I thought you might be a Red Sox fan.

johnmvp
05-21-08, 10:25 PM
Congrads Lester

Go Yankees!
Go Astros!

Paiglee
05-21-08, 10:42 PM
I remember July 4, 1983, rooting for a Yankee pitcher to throw a no-hitter AGAINST the Red Sox.


That was a lifetime ago!

As I recall your cheering worked well for Mr. Righetti.

mdoats
05-21-08, 10:56 PM
I remember July 4, 1983, rooting for a Yankee pitcher to throw a no-hitter AGAINST the Red Sox.

That was a lifetime ago!

Literally a lifetime ago! Both Buchholz and Lester were born in 1984.

NYPenn
05-21-08, 11:25 PM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

Wow. Bitter much?

Just fyi, Lester did go through chemotherapy, was sick as the proverbial dog, lost a significant amount of weight, was completely out of condition because of it, and didn't fully recover until this calendar year.

Also fyi, Lester has never considered himself a hero, and has said he's felt uncomfortable with any accolades, saying he just did what anyone else would do. But he also said in recent days he's coming to accept the fact that he is a role model to cancer patients (especially young ones) and is learing to deal with it as graciously as possible.

Whatever uniform he does or doesn't wear, he is a classy young man.

bnorris85
05-22-08, 01:52 AM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.


I'm sorry you are such a miserable person.

penguin4
05-22-08, 01:56 AM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?
I have a feeling you'd not write a word of this if he were wearing navy pinstripes.
And so far as I know, all cancers are malignant. By your admission, we should probably screw the way the media treats Lance Armstrong as a hero, too. What, the guy is more important than everyone else because he had cancer and won a couple bicycle races? How has he made a difference in America? Puh-lease.

The average American has a hard time fighting cancer (or any life-threatening disease) as it is, let alone the American who engages in physical activity for a living. If coming back from that and doing something few life-long healthy athletes have done isn't a story that warrants media attention, well, I'm wondering what sports story you think is.

And don't forget all the baseball cancer stories who couldn't make a comeback. Dare I bring up the unfortunate Dave Dravecky?

CanoForPresident
05-22-08, 02:15 AM
he makes what, close to 400k and i'm supposed to feel good, if not better, because he also had cancer? A comeback? there are millions without health coverage because they don't have a magic arm like lester, and thusly, can't even afford cancer treatments or even good hospital care.

i don't take cancer lightly, but c'mon. dude's lymphoma cancer wasn't malignant. people take months of chemotherapy and it takes much longer then his recovery time to reasonably live a normal life or work, nevertheless throw a baseball 90+ mph. screw jon lester's story. screw how the media, espn, treats him like a hero. he's no different from any other baseball player who's had a year off because of surgery. would people make as big of a deal if humberto sanchez came back and threw a no-hitter?

the only thing important about his performance is for your fantasy league. great if you had him, sucks if you don't.

red sox suck. red sox players suck. jon lester's a silver-plattered sock who got lucky at one of the most statistically improbable things to happen. oh and jason varitek? for his leading 4th no-hitter? i hope a-rod one day beats jason varitek's head in with a firm smooth swing to his temple after bashing a grand slam off that rat-faced screaming maniac papelbon. i mean seriously, who the hell fights with the catcher's mask still on?

go yankees! i'll bleed all the pinstripes out of me before i congratulate, or feel good about a red sox player.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5481/lolwutsp3.jpg


I'm not a bit Lester fan either and still am not convinced that he'll amount to much but what the ................ is that ................ dude?

johnnerr
05-22-08, 03:33 AM
i agree with everything everyone said. i have to admit what i wrote was very insensitive. but the yanks have been sucking and seeing a red sox pitcher throw a no-hitter really pissed me off. i am sorry to anyone who thought i was crazy, miserable or whatever. i am not a monster. (bad dick nixon impersonation.)

TommyK8
05-22-08, 07:38 AM
Not only do I want to say congratulations to Lester, but I want to salute Rasner, who pitched a gem of his own last night. It is always gratifying and worthy of ackowledgement when a young pitcher throws a brilliant game, no matter what team they play for. It's also an integral part of good sportsmanship.

TheoShmeo
05-22-08, 07:59 AM
For what it's worth, I fully understand Yankee fans who were not rooting for Lester to get the no no and who don't feel good about it.

If the situation was turned around, and a Yankee pitcher who had been through what Lester had been through was in the 9th inning of a no hitter and the Yankees were up big, I'd like to think that I'd be rooting for the young man to get the no hitter.

But I'd be lying if I said that I'd be REALLY glad for him. A friend of mine who is a Yankee fan said "I felt sort of good for him, but then I saw the Sox jumping around, and I had to turn off the TV." I totally get that.

And I'd be lying if I said that the implications of the no hitter as it might relate to that Yankee becoming a more confident, effective pitcher would not bother me.

The bottom line is that while that post above was bitter etc., the underlying sentiment about not rooting for the rival's pitcher to get a no hitter is perfectly understandable.

PS: And I couldn't disagree more with Tommy on Rasner. I get no joy in seeing his success!

penguin4
05-22-08, 08:40 AM
But I'd be lying if I said that I'd be REALLY glad for him. A friend of mine who is a Yankee fan said "I felt sort of good for him, but then I saw the Sox jumping around, and I had to turn off the TV." I totally get that.
Wow, that was 100% how I felt. Here's this wonderful story and I'm so happy for him, but I just can't stomach watching the Red Sox celebrating.

4bronxbombers
05-22-08, 03:32 PM
Wow, that was 100% how I felt. Here's this wonderful story and I'm so happy for him, but I just can't stomach watching the Red Sox celebrating.

Same here. I was happy for the guy but I avoided all the celebrations that night and the next day. I can only take so much. :lol:

TommyK8
05-22-08, 05:39 PM
For what it's worth, I fully understand Yankee fans who were not rooting for Lester to get the no no and who don't feel good about it.

If the situation was turned around, and a Yankee pitcher who had been through what Lester had been through was in the 9th inning of a no hitter and the Yankees were up big, I'd like to think that I'd be rooting for the young man to get the no hitter.

But I'd be lying if I said that I'd be REALLY glad for him. A friend of mine who is a Yankee fan said "I felt sort of good for him, but then I saw the Sox jumping around, and I had to turn off the TV." I totally get that.

And I'd be lying if I said that the implications of the no hitter as it might relate to that Yankee becoming a more confident, effective pitcher would not bother me.

The bottom line is that while that post above was bitter etc., the underlying sentiment about not rooting for the rival's pitcher to get a no hitter is perfectly understandable.

PS: And I couldn't disagree more with Tommy on Rasner. I get no joy in seeing his success!I was watching Hughes last year against Texas and I can say I certainly was rooting for him to pitch a no-hitter and I felt it was a horrible shame that he was injured.

The one time I did not root for a no-hitter (in this case a perfect game) was when Mussina retired the first 26 batters to face him on a Sunday night on national TV....this had to be about 2002...and Carl Everett hit a little flare to break it up. I just did not want to see the Red Sox get a perfect game pitched against them by a Yankee on their home field.

I was rooting like crazy for Jim Abbott in 93....I was also very happy for Dwight Gooden and David Cone....not so much for Wells.

jimmyquickpitch
05-22-08, 06:07 PM
Yankee fan living in Boston now, I sell pharmaceuticals and was transfered here.

Some things are bigger than baseball, every time Lester takes the mound, every time he throws the ball, gets a guy out, wins a game, any accomplishment at all, gives the thousands of kids being treated for cancer in the Boston area hope. I'm sure a lot of us have personal experience with cancer, as I do, so a lot of you know that hope, in a lot of cases, is a stronger medicine than anything I sell or my colleagues sell. In some cases, hope is all these kids have because modern medicine has nothing left for them.

So even though I'm late to this thread, congrats Jon, not for the no hitter, just for being out there.

EDIT: typo