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justtxyank
10-29-07, 09:25 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10292007/sports/yankees/joe_hollywood.htm

Here's a real interesting part to me:


According to several people, the Dodgers inquired about Torre's interest before he rejected a one-year deal for $5 million with a chance to earn $3 million in incentives and stay with the Yankees.

I wonder if the contact with the Dodgers had anything to do with why he felt so insulted.

DontHateOnNumber2
10-29-07, 09:43 AM
I wonder if the contact with the Dodgers had anything to do with why he felt so insulted.
If so, that would annoy me greatly.

YanksFan1992
10-29-07, 10:09 AM
If so, that would annoy me greatly.

Seriously...:(

I woke up wondering how the sports world could get any worse...and it has. I wonder what's next?:P

montrealer
10-29-07, 10:30 AM
Why not ? Good for him......

Chacon
10-29-07, 11:01 AM
Coincidence that Scott Proctor is a Dodger?

GimeMoMuny
10-29-07, 11:24 AM
Maybe there's a $5M World Series bonus.

yanksrule51
10-29-07, 11:26 AM
Just in case, I think Scott Proctor should go ahead and call Dr. Andrews and see if he has any openings for May.

nnysiny
10-29-07, 12:44 PM
Coincidence that Scott Proctor is a Dodger?

right now Proctor is wondering if he can opt out

BonusCantos
10-29-07, 01:22 PM
Poor Scott. Joe might finish off his right arm after all.

BeantownYankee
10-29-07, 01:29 PM
Could Posada, Pettite, & Rivera follow Torre to LA? Arod?

johnnyyankee
10-29-07, 01:37 PM
Could Posada, Pettite, & Rivera follow Torre to LA? Arod?



Along with Bowa, Mattingly and Long.

BonusCantos
10-29-07, 01:41 PM
Could Posada, Pettite, & Rivera follow Torre to LA? Arod?Well, if their loyalties are really with one man rather than the Yankee franchise, then yes.

wang+cano=future
10-29-07, 01:49 PM
Haha somewhere Proctor's arm just gave a severe shudder.

YankeePride1967
10-29-07, 01:53 PM
With that team, Torre will be given a good test as to his skills as a manager. I mean when they come into town, you just have to get tickets to see Derek Lowe, Nomar and Jeff Kent. What a powerhouse! :P

Mark19
10-29-07, 01:55 PM
He'll be somewhere where the people won't notice that he's asleep in the 7th inning because they'll have already gone to the parking lots.

JohnnyB
10-29-07, 01:56 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Torre-will-take-Dodgers-job-if-when-it-opens?urn=mlb,51310

bcom33
10-29-07, 01:58 PM
The amount of "what-iffing" if A-Rod follows Joe to the Dodgers this offseason will be insaaaaane.

SoCal Pinstriper
10-29-07, 02:01 PM
This is in the wrong forum.

tdel23
10-29-07, 02:01 PM
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=107413

b-ball-lunachick
10-29-07, 02:04 PM
I posted in the Dodgers thread about the fights between the vets and the young guys that was alluded to in the Post article...sounds like fun. ;)

I do think that would be a good job for Joe and I hope if he wants it, he gets it. I loved that man like he was a family member but I didn't want him to return to the yankees..I hope he winds up with a good job though. :)

Octoberbaby
10-29-07, 03:32 PM
I would welcome Torre here in L.A. :)

iWant27
10-29-07, 04:01 PM
Proctor is crying like that girl in the movie "Blair Witch Project" .

" I am soo scared " :( .


And Torre says "Hey Scotty , look whos back " . :bad:

Bronson'sCornrows
10-29-07, 04:48 PM
Coincidence that Scott Proctor is a Dodger?

Obviously not. Torre loves the Proctoroligist. Now all he has to do is convince management to sign "Ballsy" Brad Halsey and bring Chillie Davis out of retirement and he'll have my favorite collection of Yankee names all in Dodger's uniforms.

JGiambi25
10-29-07, 06:02 PM
Isn't Mattingly's son in the Dodgers system? If Torre got the job would Donnie follow him and become bench coach there too?

BillBuckner
10-29-07, 06:08 PM
Coincidence that Scott Proctor is a Dodger?

If you hear a faint scream in the next couple of weeks, its just Scott Proctor from LA and it means Torre was just hired.

Moose13
10-29-07, 06:08 PM
He'll do terrible in the NL. As we've seen in the years past, he's not much of a baseball desision maker. Good with the players, yes. Good with on-field desicions, no.
Imagine what he'd do with a bullpen in the NL?!?!?

Mark19
10-29-07, 06:12 PM
If Joe manages the Dodgers, Pierre will finish the year with 4 stolen bases, Russell Martin will have 25 sac bunts and Scott Proctor will have gone into the witness protection program.

flymick24
10-29-07, 07:35 PM
joe knows that proctor is in LA and figured that he might as well "finish the job."

Yankees Pride
10-29-07, 07:44 PM
Proctor is crying like that girl in the movie "Blair Witch Project" .

" I am soo scared " :( .


And Torre says "Hey Scotty , look whos back " . :bad:
:lol: That's the first thing I thought.

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 07:49 PM
He'll do terrible in the NL. As we've seen in the years past, he's not much of a baseball desision maker. Good with the players, yes. Good with on-field desicions, no.

Imagine what he'd do with a bullpen in the NL?!?!?

He had a winning record in Atlanta and in St. Louis. He only made the playoffs once, but it was harder then. Under the current alignment, he would have made it a few more times. If you remember 1996, we were the "Go Go Yanks" until Steinbrenner wanted more power and added Cecil Fielder and Darryl Strawberry. Torre is not a field butcher.

Torre said it wasn't about the money. So don't be surprised if he takes less per year because they guarantee more years.

Also, I don't understand why people like Michael Kay have to constantly blur the lines. Torre was "insulted" by the incentive part of the contract.

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 08:05 PM
He had a winning record in Atlanta and in St. Louis. He only made the playoffs once, but it was harder then. Under the current alignment, he would have made it a few more times. If you remember 1996, we were the "Go Go Yanks" until Steinbrenner wanted more power and added Cecil Fielder and Darryl Strawberry. Torre is not a field butcher.

Torre said it wasn't about the money. So don't be surprised if he takes less per year because they guarantee more years.

Also, I don't understand why people like Michael Kay have to constantly blur the lines. Torre was "insulted" by the incentive part of the contract.

If Joe is to land somewhere the Dodgers would be a good fit. If it happens it will be interesting to see what kind of pull he has in attracting FA's

Messerwhitescooter
10-29-07, 09:36 PM
Could Posada, Pettite, & Rivera follow Torre to LA? Arod?
If Gene Monahan goes to the Dodgers, I am going to suspect something is going on. ;)

27IsNext
10-29-07, 10:15 PM
A second before Abraham's LohudBlog crashed, it announced Joe Torre to the Dodgers. Mattingly seems set to join him as bench coach. Hmm...

Yanks21
10-29-07, 10:18 PM
That was quick...

http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071029/SPORTS01/710290436

T-Rod
10-29-07, 10:20 PM
from Abrams on lohud:

The Journal News is reporting that Joe Torre will be hired as manager of the Dodgers. The announcement could come as soon as today.
Don Mattingly is in line to join his staff. Torre also is interested in Kevin Long. I suspect Long will stay with the Yankees but he is in demand.
http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:20 PM
Wow. Congratulations to Torre and Mattingly. I'll be pulling for them with the Dodgers in the NL. How odd to see them - especially Mattingly - in a Dodger uniform?

YanksFan1992
10-29-07, 10:21 PM
Wow:(

Good luck to them

PittsburghYankeeFan
10-29-07, 10:21 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

gregzzy22
10-29-07, 10:22 PM
C'mon not Long.

Lumen
10-29-07, 10:22 PM
Just read it, It will be strange seeing Joe in White and Blue but I'm glad for him.

NYYRules#1
10-29-07, 10:22 PM
I thought that if Torre were to be hired elsewhere, Mattingly would follow, but I didn't think Torre would be hired this season.

Wow. Seeing Mattingly and Torre in another uniform will be tough to see.

YankeeSass
10-29-07, 10:22 PM
Beat me to it. :D


The Journal News is reporting that Joe Torre will be hired as manager of the Dodgers. The announcement could come as soon as today.


Good for Joe.
I expect I'll be watching a lot more LAD games next season to see if he can work his magic in the clubhouse.

Although ..... poor Scotty :D

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:22 PM
Congrats to Torre and Mattingly. I'll be pulling for them in the NL.

wang+cano=future
10-29-07, 10:23 PM
It doesn't seem official that Long is gone. Hopefully he doesn't go anywhere.

ARoDfan4life
10-29-07, 10:24 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

:-rofl-:

Retire21
10-29-07, 10:25 PM
Whoa- I've had enough shock/surprises from the Yankees or ex-Yankees in the last two weeks to last me a few years. This is just incredible, if true. The Dodgers are bringing in Yankees to lead their team on the field? Weird. Could you imagine if the Yankees hired Tommy Lasorda as manager and he brought Steve Garvey or Ron Cey with him as bench coach?

I'm wondering how Mattingly thinks being the Dodgers bench coach is better than remaining ( in some capacity) with the Yankees. Does he really think being Joe Torre's bench coach again is going to lead to a managerial job?

What has transpired the past two weeks ( or even 24 hours) belongs in some bizarro world.

Vinny
10-29-07, 10:25 PM
Scott Proctor (imitating George Costanza): Every time I think I'm out...they pull me back in."

Gob Rules
10-29-07, 10:25 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

Lol.

I'll root for them in the NL West.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 10:26 PM
I think Mattingly wants to manage. He is going to wait it out and see if theres any offers.

Davios
10-29-07, 10:26 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

Tabata
10-29-07, 10:26 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

You beat me to it! :D :lol:

wang+cano=future
10-29-07, 10:26 PM
Big news day......

Octoberbaby
10-29-07, 10:27 PM
Beat me to it. :D



Good for Joe.
I expect I'll be watching a lot more LAD games next season to see if he can work his magic in the clubhouse.

Although ..... poor Scotty :D

You and me both! I have always been bored by the Dodgers. Maybe this will make a needed change for them. I will certainly be interested to see it next year.

In Mo I Trust
10-29-07, 10:29 PM
Proctor and Torre reunited, too funny.

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:29 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

Guess he got over it as quickly as the Yankees did. Good for him. That didn't take very long. I guess someone sees value in him.

How about Grady Little? He must see Torre in his dreams...beat you again, Grady...mwa-ha-ha-ha

Roberto Kelly
10-29-07, 10:29 PM
What an unbelievable 24 hours. Absolutely stunning.

Lumen
10-29-07, 10:29 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...hahaha.

Roberto Kelly
10-29-07, 10:30 PM
Hopefully we don't lose Long, but that's assuming Girardi would want him in the first place.

Chacon
10-29-07, 10:31 PM
I always have viewed Pete as a reliable source but how the heck did he manage to get this scoop before anyone? Did it really happen?

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:31 PM
Wow...the off season really couldn't wait to get started :lol:

Matsui-San
10-29-07, 10:32 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...
:lol: :roflmao: :lol:

Retire21
10-29-07, 10:32 PM
Pete got it wrong when he said Torre grew up rooting for the Dodgers. He was a Giants fan- he said he only rooted for the Dodgers when they played the Yankees because he was an NL guy.

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:32 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

He said when he rejected it that he:

A. Still wanted to manage.
B. It wasn't about the money.
C. He wanted to negotiate with NYY, but wasn't allowed.
D. He wanted more than 1 year guaranteed.

He hasn't done anything against what he plainly stated.


What an unbelievable 24 hours. Absolutely stunning.

The wildest I can remember. Even more crazy than when we traded Alfonso Soriano for Alex Rodriguez.

mgpenguin
10-29-07, 10:33 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

I don't know... maybe he's going to a team that wants him? I think that might be it.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 10:34 PM
He said when he rejected it that he:

A. Still wanted to manage.
B. It wasn't about the money.
C. He wanted to negotiate with NYY, but wasn't allowed.
D. He wanted more than 1 year guaranteed.

He hasn't done anything against what he plainly stated.

I agree hes done with us and has every right to get another job. This doesnt bother me at all.

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:34 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9770/proctpt6.jpg (http://forums.nyyfans.com/)

DaYanks24
10-29-07, 10:35 PM
Scott, meet Dr. Andrews.

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:35 PM
Scott, meet Dr. Andrews.

You guys realize Little used him more than Torre, right?

161 and River Ave.
10-29-07, 10:36 PM
Watch A-rod follow Long and Torre. LA has money to throw around as well. A-rod will love playing in front of fans who arrive in the 3rd and leave in the 7th.

Sam18
10-29-07, 10:36 PM
Wtf no not Long! Keep Long!!

Dannman103
10-29-07, 10:36 PM
Not to nitpick, but doesn't this more belong in around the majors?

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:39 PM
I hope this doesn't intice Mo and Jorge to bolt to the Dodgers....

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:40 PM
I hope this doesn't intice Mo and Jorge to bolt to the Dodgers....

They could use Mo, but the Dodgers already have a very good young catcher

PinstripePride
10-29-07, 10:40 PM
Wow. This is stunning.

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:41 PM
They could use Mo, but the Dodgers already have a very good young catcher

Yeah just realized that. Forgot about Rusell Martin.

Still though...we can't lose Mo. That would be devastating. Forget that playoffs if that happens.

njdhockey
10-29-07, 10:41 PM
Best of luck to them if they get the jobs.

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:42 PM
Not only does Torre reunite with Proctor, but Mariano Duncan was on that coaching staff.

BomberBrian
10-29-07, 10:42 PM
Dodgers have Russell Martin. They have no use for Jorge.

And Saito was outstanding as a closer, even though he is just as old as Mo.

And they have Broxton waiting in the wings.

If anything we are lucky Torre went to a situation where they don't have a need at catcher and closer.

ericns1
10-29-07, 10:42 PM
Good luck to Joe and Donnie!!

Pinstripedbass
10-29-07, 10:43 PM
I hope this doesn't intice Mo and Jorge to bolt to the Dodgers....

I wouldn't worry about that. The Dodgers already have Russell Martin behind the plate and Saito and Broxton out of the bullpen. L.A. is not a good match for Jorge or Mariano.

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:43 PM
I hope this doesn't intice Mo and Jorge to bolt to the Dodgers....

I don't think it would, but what's different this week is that there's an acutal team with Torre managing it.

They could use A-Rod though.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 10:44 PM
The Dodgers just might be good enough to lose in the first round of the playoffs with Torre.

Mark19
10-29-07, 10:44 PM
No one else is reporting this....

strange...

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:44 PM
How great would a Yankee-Dodger World Series be? Think Fox could sell that?

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:45 PM
The Dodgers just might be good enough to lose in the first round of the playoffs with Torre.

If the NL is as weak next year...we're in "transition"...can you imagine...nah, nevermind...

stephsamps
10-29-07, 10:45 PM
Have they fired Grady Little? Did I miss that part?

trapper700
10-29-07, 10:45 PM
Not to nitpick, but doesn't this more belong in around the majors?

probably not if it involves Kevin Long, who I hope to god stays with the yankees

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:45 PM
Have they fired Grady Little? Did I miss that part?

Evidently so.

nnysiny
10-29-07, 10:46 PM
first Fredo betrays us, and now Torre is starting his own family on the west coast. what next?

Mark19
10-29-07, 10:47 PM
first Fredo betrays us, and now Torre is starting his own family on the west coast. what next?

Rub out the other families

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:47 PM
first Fredo betrays us, and now Torre is starting his own family on the west coast. what next?

Vegas, baby

TheBamTino24
10-29-07, 10:47 PM
first Fredo betrays us, and now Torre is starting his own family on the west coast. what next?

:lol:

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:47 PM
Well, I don't get that. I don't care who is in the Dodgers bullpen. Every team in the league could use Mariano Rivera. And he loves Torre.

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 10:49 PM
Well, I don't get that. I don't care who is in the Dodgers bullpen. Every team in the league could use Mariano Rivera. And he loves Torre.

Yes I think they would work him in somewhere...stranger things have happened....


in the last 24 hours in fact

Bugg
10-29-07, 10:49 PM
I think Mattingly wants to manage. He is going to wait it out and see if theres any offers.
I loved Mattingly as a player, as we all did.


But if he wants to be a manager, well, then, go to AAA for a year or 2. Or take a bottom feeder job. Or an assitant GM.sacout-type job. If he thinks sitting on the bench all night saying "Good idea, Joe" is going to move him any closer to the manager's chair, he'd better think again.

And since the time Torre first took the manager's job with the Yankees, the sabrematricians are moving to positions of power in the front offices. They want someone who's going to pour over the stats, and not treat them and their work like some special ed kids on a field trip. If he thinks doing it the way Torre does-show up late, don't bother with SABR stats and scouting, backslapping clichefest BS with the press before and after, followed by a postgame quick shower and off to a later dinner-he's in a for a very rude awakening. Torre's MO is the way of the dinosaur.

Prison Mike
10-29-07, 10:49 PM
Congrats Joe- I'll definitely root for the Dodgers in the NL now.

PittsburghYankeeFan
10-29-07, 10:49 PM
You guys realize Little used him more than Torre, right?

Just getting his arm warm, m'boy, just getting it warm for Joe...

Dannman103
10-29-07, 10:51 PM
I hope this doesn't intice Mo and Jorge to bolt to the Dodgers....

Well, the Dodgers have no need for a catcher, considering they have Russell Martin, and they also have a pretty good closer in Saito, and a closer-in-waiting in Broxton. So they have absolutely no need for Posada, and not a great need for Mo, either.

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:51 PM
By the way, I'm sure Grady Little is a nice guy and all, but I'm pretty sure he has to hate Joe Torre. First beating him in the 2003 ALCS thanks to his own dopiness, then watching the Sox win it after Torre's Yankees choke in 2004 as opposed to 2003, and now he's losing his job to Torre.

gregzzy22
10-29-07, 10:51 PM
Man, I didnt even think of Torre trying to get Mo to follow him. If he wants Long, why wouldnt he go after Mo hard?

Mark19
10-29-07, 10:52 PM
Man, I didnt even think of Torre trying to get Mo to follow him. If he wants Long, why wouldnt he go after Mo hard?

Because Saito was better than him this year?

NYDCYankee
10-29-07, 10:53 PM
Yes!

Now the Yankees can offer Joe arbitration and get draft picks for him.

Yanks4eva1
10-29-07, 10:54 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

I howled when I read this post!:roflmao: :roflmao:

My mom grew up a Dodgers fan in Brooklyn and Joe's from Brooklyn so hey, best wishes to him and to Donnie. Let Donnie learn all he can 'cause he'll be the Yankees manager in 4 years and bring some NL game playing with him when he returns!

Much love and best wishes to the both of them if this is true! Even if it's not, much respect.

Dee

Prison Mike
10-29-07, 10:55 PM
Man, I didnt even think of Torre trying to get Mo to follow him. If he wants Long, why wouldnt he go after Mo hard?

Saito and Broxton have late inning relief duties locked up. Unless Mo loves Torre enough to be a 7th inning guy, I don't see this being a concern.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 10:55 PM
Yes!

Now the Yankees can offer Joe arbitration and get draft picks for him.

LoL the way this offseason is going we should have about 50 first round picks.

Octoberbaby
10-29-07, 10:56 PM
Whoa- I've had enough shock/surprises from the Yankees or ex-Yankees in the last two weeks to last me a few years. This is just incredible, if true. The Dodgers are bringing in Yankees to lead their team on the field? Weird. Could you imagine if the Yankees hired Tommy Lasorda as manager and he brought Steve Garvey or Ron Cey with him as bench coach?

I'm wondering how Mattingly thinks being the Dodgers bench coach is better than remaining ( in some capacity) with the Yankees. Does he really think being Joe Torre's bench coach again is going to lead to a managerial job?

What has transpired the past two weeks ( or even 24 hours) belongs in some bizarro world.

All the coaches were told by the NYYankees to look for other jobs as there was no guarantee they would be back. When Mattingly was not offered the manager's job he had to find another one.

BxBomber44
10-29-07, 10:56 PM
sad to see. but whatever they can be my 2nd team...a far second one.

PittsburghYankeeFan
10-29-07, 10:56 PM
LoL the way this offseason is going we should have about 50 first round picks.

Seriously, can you really offer arb to a manager and get picks?

NYDCYankee
10-29-07, 10:56 PM
Seriously, can you really offer arb to a manager and get picks?

No I was just kidding. :P

JSG
10-29-07, 10:57 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

....... one can only imagine the equipment bonfires in chavez ravine ...............

danman1202
10-29-07, 10:57 PM
Seriously, can you really offer arb to a manager and get picks?

No you can't.

a-RobinsonCano-Fan
10-29-07, 10:59 PM
lets go dodgers

PittsburghYankeeFan
10-29-07, 11:00 PM
How long before Milton Bradley is out the door?

BxBomber44
10-29-07, 11:01 PM
lets go dodgers

its either vamos or lehys. never a clear lets... thats coming from experience in el'ravine.

WebsterMulligan
10-29-07, 11:02 PM
Man, I wish the Yanks could aquire the services of Russell Martin.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:05 PM
JDPNYY had this story (about Joe) 4 days ago.

Always listen to JDPNYY.

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showpost.php?p=4656236&postcount=9

CTyankeefan
10-29-07, 11:05 PM
Whoa- I've had enough shock/surprises from the Yankees or ex-Yankees in the last two weeks to last me a few years. This is just incredible, if true. The Dodgers are bringing in Yankees to lead their team on the field? Weird. Could you imagine if the Yankees hired Tommy Lasorda as manager and he brought Steve Garvey or Ron Cey with him as bench coach?

I'm wondering how Mattingly thinks being the Dodgers bench coach is better than remaining ( in some capacity) with the Yankees. Does he really think being Joe Torre's bench coach again is going to lead to a managerial job?

What has transpired the past two weeks ( or even 24 hours) belongs in some bizarro world.

Mattingly can't be with the organization. It undercuts Girardi. Mattingly isn't being a baby, he is doing the best thing for the Yankees to be honest.

You can't have two managers. Pena will be a good bench coach, but he said he wanted to stay all along so it isn't an issue.

Mattingly is acting like a professional. He wants to manage, and the yanks passed him over. He can't stay in the organization because he has power and visibility and will become an immediate challenge to Girardi.

Yanks know this, but out of respect offer him a job. And the Yanks were sincere. But Mattingly took the yankees off the firing line. One last classy move from the Hitman.

Octoberbaby
10-29-07, 11:05 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

Why shouldn't Torre take a job if it is offered to him? Should he stay unemployed just because the Yankees didn't think he was worth bringing back? I am happy for Joe that he will be working and not sitting out the season. He didn't deserve the way he was treated, not the other way around.

hatfieldms
10-29-07, 11:05 PM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

Would you have rather he just sat in the house and cried all off season instead of moving on?

danman1202
10-29-07, 11:05 PM
How long before Milton Bradley is out the door?

He might as well already be gone. Unless there's a complete 180 (or as Jason Kidd would say, "A complete 360") in his demeanor, he's got to go.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:06 PM
He might as well already be gone. Unless there's a complete 180 (or as Jason Kidd would say, "A complete 360") in his demeanor, he's got to go.

Milton Bradley is on the Padres now I think.

JSG
10-29-07, 11:06 PM
Vegas, baby

exactly. kevin long just announced that he's heading out to vegas to learn the casino business ............

Bugg
10-29-07, 11:07 PM
Why shouldn't Torre take a job if it is offered to him? Should he stay unemployed just because the Yankees didn't think he was worth bringing back? I am happy for Joe that he will be working and not sitting out the season. He didn't deserve the way he was treated, not the other way around. I wonder if his salary structure-years, bonuses, base-will compare with the Yanks' offer. Hopefully ti won't be as insulting.

danman1202
10-29-07, 11:07 PM
Milton Bradley is on the Padres now I think.

lol I need to get more sleep....

Either that or study my NL West....

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:10 PM
lol I need to get more sleep....

Either that or study my NL West....

I understand what your saying though, he would not fit with a Torre clubhouse.

gill2k
10-29-07, 11:10 PM
LOL on the Proctor comment.

Anyway, good luck to Joe and Donnie! Hope we see them in the WS (or in interleague) :D

Dynasties R Forever
10-29-07, 11:10 PM
Well, I don't get that. I don't care who is in the Dodgers bullpen. Every team in the league could use Mariano Rivera. And he loves Torre.

He's quite expensive.

LDG
10-29-07, 11:10 PM
:lol: This is crazy! When is one supposed to leave this site?? Everytime you think it's safe to log out and get some sleep, something new happens!

Good luck to Joe and Don if they really are headed to L.A.!

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:12 PM
He's quite expensive.

Dodgers have to have money. LA is a big market even though ive heard there not as popular out there as they used to be.

danman1202
10-29-07, 11:13 PM
He's quite expensive.

Yeah....and McCourt isn't exactly known for being a big spender. Hopefully they won't go all out financially for him.

brosiusbuddy
10-29-07, 11:13 PM
I'm wondering how Mattingly thinks being the Dodgers bench coach is better than remaining ( in some capacity) with the Yankees. Does he really think being Joe Torre's bench coach again is going to lead to a managerial job?


Mattingly probably feels as though he is a better man for the manager job than Girardi so with that in mind, how could he coach under him? Plus, it'd be a no win situation for Mattingly because if the Yanks are successful, Girardi won't go anywhere, but if they fail, then Mattingly is part of a losing team. It saddens me that Donnie is gone. He's a great Yankee.

TheoShmeo
10-29-07, 11:18 PM
As a Sox fan, I note that I'm astounded that anyone, anywhere hired Grady Little after his performance in game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, and that it took this long for Grady to get bounced is also a surprise.

I don't think Torre's presence in LA will impact the A-Rod situation because I think A-Rod will go to whoever pays him the most with no other factors playing much of a role.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:18 PM
JDPNYY had this story (about Joe) 4 days ago.

Always listen to JDPNYY.

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showpost.php?p=4656236&postcount=9

Thanks for pointing that out CLUEs_DAD.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:19 PM
My question now is:

Will Torre bat AROD 8th next season?

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:20 PM
The Dodgers have also been rumored as part of the A-Rod sweepstakes. Looks like the whole 04-07 yankees are gonna be over there.

yankeeman61
10-29-07, 11:22 PM
The Dodgers have also been rumored as part of the A-Rod sweepstakes. Looks like the whole 04-07 yankees are gonna be over there.

This could be like the parallel world in the Seinfeld episode. The left coast version of the Yankees

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:23 PM
This could be like the parallel world in the Seinfeld episode. The left coast version of the Yankees

LoL the bizarro yankees. Love it.

Roberto Kelly
10-29-07, 11:24 PM
first Fredo betrays us, and now Torre is starting his own family on the west coast. what next?

We move the operation to Cuba?

CptCrunch
10-29-07, 11:24 PM
Thanks for pointing that out CLUEs_DAD.

That's why they you the big bucks.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:25 PM
That's why they you the big bucks.

I don't get any bucks.

ICEBERG18
10-29-07, 11:25 PM
Too bad we can't get draft picks for coaches.

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:26 PM
We move the operation to Cuba?

I wouldnt mind having that guy Gouriel from the WBC a few years back he was really good.

CptCrunch
10-29-07, 11:27 PM
I don't get any bucks.

Well then they should double your salary.

Roberto Kelly
10-29-07, 11:28 PM
I wouldnt mind having that guy Gouriel from the WBC a few years back he was really good.

Yeah he is.

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:28 PM
But if he wants to be a manager, well, then, go to AAA for a year or 2. Or take a bottom feeder job. Or an assitant GM.sacout-type job. If he thinks sitting on the bench all night saying "Good idea, Joe" is going to move him any closer to the manager's chair, he'd better think again.

.

You ought to listen to yourself once in a while. What the hell do you think Girardi did before he got his first job as manager? This is a perfect spot for Donnie if he wants to manage a big time franchise. Torre is 67, 2-3 more years and he's out of there and there sits Donnie, the obvious replacement.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:28 PM
Well then they should double your salary.

That shouldn't be a tough negotiation.

AlongCameAPrincess
10-29-07, 11:29 PM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...

lol! It will be one lovely reunion.

Man, I'm jealous of the Dodgers if this happens. I'm going to have such a love/hate relationship with whoever gets Joe. I love you, Joe Toree. Dammit!

hardrain
10-29-07, 11:31 PM
just can't keep up with the news...I'm waiting for the announcement that the Yanks have traded Wilson Betemit to the Dodgers for Scott Proctor.

brosiusbuddy
10-29-07, 11:31 PM
I don't think Arod will go to the Dodgers. For one, he and Torre have never had that great of a relationship, especially not so good that Arod would follow Torre where he went. And second, Arod is on pace to break the home run record and I doubt Boras would advise him to sign with a team that has a pitchers park.

hongchihkuo
10-29-07, 11:31 PM
if that happens, the yankees would need to schedule some interleague games with the dodgers

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:32 PM
and they also have a pretty good closer in Saito, and a closer-in-waiting in Broxton. So they have absolutely no need for Posada, and not a great need for Mo, either.

You've been following the Yankees too long. Most ball clubs like to have some depth in the bullpen, you know, like three or even four reliable arms. Saito is 37, so is Mo. There's no reason why Mo and Saito couldn't share the closer's job. A Rivera, Saito, Broxton, Proctor pen just might be the best in the NL.
But the guy I would most worry about losing is Pettitte.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:35 PM
You've been following the Yankees too long. Most ball clubs like to have some depth in the bullpen, you know, like three or even four reliable arms. Saito is 37, so is Mo. There's no reason why Mo and Saito couldn't share the closer's job. A Rivera, Saito, Broxton, Proctor pen just might be the best in the NL.
But the guy I would most worry about losing is Pettitte.

Mrs. Andy didn't want him in NYC, you think she's gonna let him roam around LA all summer?

R.V.47
10-29-07, 11:35 PM
You've been following the Yankees too long. Most ball clubs like to have some depth in the bullpen, you know, like three or even four reliable arms. Saito is 37, so is Mo. There's no reason why Mo and Saito couldn't share the closer's job. A Rivera, Saito, Broxton, Proctor pen just might be the best in the NL.
But the guy I would most worry about losing is Pettitte.

I dont think Rivera would want to share closer duties with anyone.

AJW
10-29-07, 11:38 PM
Wow. Congratulations to Torre and Mattingly. I'll be pulling for them with the Dodgers in the NL. How odd to see them - especially Mattingly - in a Dodger uniform?

Mattingly's son Preston is a SS prospect in the Dodger organization.

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:39 PM
I dont think Rivera would want to share closer duties with anyone.

I have no idea what Mo wants. I've never met the man. I was addressing the proposition that the Dodgers couldn't use him. They most certainly could. With his acquisition, their pen would suddenly become a huge plus, in a division where any advantage at all can usually get a team into the playoffs.

ieddyi
10-29-07, 11:40 PM
I hope the Dodgers FO knows better than to offer Torre an incentive laden contract.

It better be over $5M also

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:40 PM
Mrs. Andy didn't want him in NYC, you think she's gonna let him roam around LA all summer?

I don't get it? Are you under the impression that LA is a tougher town that NY. LA is a piece of cake. I would think if the choice is NY or LA, the Mrs. would opt for LA.

JDPNYY
10-29-07, 11:42 PM
I don't get it? Are you under the impression that LA is a tougher town that NY. LA is a piece of cake. I would think if the choice is NY or LA, the Mrs. would opt for LA.

That's not the reason the missus didn't want him in NY.

bmxstreetrider86
10-29-07, 11:42 PM
Mrs. Andy didn't want him in NYC, you think she's gonna let him roam around LA all summer?

while im no cartographer, isnt LA closer to houston? he would be playing in the NL west which is also closer to houston

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:43 PM
I hope the Dodgers FO knows better than to offer Torre an incentive laden contract.

It better be over $5M also

Is Torre sleeping with you wife or something? Get off his back. You got your wish, He's out of New York and he's being replaced by your boy Girardi, and yet you keep bashing, bashing, bashing. You're a real hater aren't you?

AlongCameAPrincess
10-29-07, 11:43 PM
That's not the reason the missus didn't want him in NY.

cue evil laughter. :D Oh, Andy.

Spiker101
10-29-07, 11:44 PM
That's not the reason the missus didn't want him in NY.

I guess I'm missing something. Care to enlighten me?

Jeter Kid
10-29-07, 11:44 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9770/proctpt6.jpg (http://forums.nyyfans.com/)

LMAO!!!

Lets go Dodgers/Yankees!!

JSG
10-29-07, 11:50 PM
I hope the Dodgers FO knows better than to offer Torre an incentive laden contract. It better be over $5M also

isn't multi year @ $4MM per reported ?? and they would be moving a manager out to get him. that it was never about the cash in the first place and that this team really seems to want him may also come into play here.

yanks710
10-30-07, 12:03 AM
Wow that didn't take long

Clemens831
10-30-07, 12:05 AM
Are the Dodgers serious about this? Doesn't anyone else think that this is an unwise move on their behalf? I mean, this is a team brimming with YOUNG talent (Martin, Kemp, Loney, Ethier) but also bogged down with veteran contracts (Kemp, Pierre, Garciaparra). One of the major problems the Dodgers had this year was splitting playing time between the vets and the rookies and apparently it caused a lot of animosity. I can't imagine that Torre, with his professed preference for veterans, will possibly make this any better...on the other hand, there's a danger of him retarding the growth of some of these young players. Broxton, Proctor, et al...better get their arms REALLY loose...

newfie
10-30-07, 12:06 AM
Good for Joe. I wish him the best.

I would have liked to see Joe back with the Yankees for another two years but, if that won't happen, I'm happy to see Joe get another managerial job with a promising team so quickly. I'm glad Joe is ready to turn the page and move on.

JeterRodriguezSheff
10-30-07, 12:06 AM
Is Torre sleeping with you wife or something? Get off his back. You got your wish, He's out of New York and he's being replaced by your boy Girardi, and yet you keep bashing, bashing, bashing. You're a real hater aren't you?

Most of the frustration on his part is stemming from the fact that a few fans are acting like we are going to be in the gutte for the next 10 years and no Free Agents will sign with us because Torre left.

MassNYYfan
10-30-07, 12:07 AM
New catch phrase for Dodger Nation:


"Juan Pierre has an electric body."

Spiker101
10-30-07, 12:07 AM
Are the Dodgers serious about this? Doesn't anyone else think that this is an unwise move on their behalf? I mean, this is a team brimming with YOUNG talent (Martin, Kemp, Loney, Ethier) but also bogged down with veteran contracts (Kemp, Pierre, Garciaparra). One of the major problems the Dodgers had this year was splitting playing time between the vets and the rookies and apparently it caused a lot of animosity. I can't imagine that Torre, with his professed preference for veterans, will possibly make this any better...on the other hand, there's a danger of him retarding the growth of some of these young players. Broxton, Proctor, et al...better get their arms REALLY loose...

You may not be aware of it but the Dodger's current manager is Grady Little.

primetime714
10-30-07, 12:08 AM
Honestly I could care less so long as we keep Long. I wish Torre luck and I'm glad to see him still managing but it really doesn't matter to me. As for Mattingly I'm fine with going to be honest I don't think he provided much as a bench coach I think it was just a learning experience for him to possibly prepare him to manage at a later date. I actually like Tony Pena as the bench coach more. I hope the position is offered to him and he takes it. Good luck Torre and Mattingly. However I think we're better without you.

DiMaggio5CF
10-30-07, 12:09 AM
I guess I'm missing something. Care to enlighten me?

A rumor when he left NY was that wifey wanted him closer to home because she suspect him of cheating on her.

jughead
10-30-07, 12:10 AM
Practically my entire baseball life (since I was 9) Joe's been the one coming out of the dugout for the Yankees. Seeing him do it for the Dodgers is going to be weird. But hey, good luck to him. Now we'll really see how much Mo/Po/A-Rod care about having Torre as their manager.

Anyone know what the contract is?

yanks710
10-30-07, 12:13 AM
Why is this nowhere else except this website?

Spiker101
10-30-07, 12:13 AM
Most of the frustration on his part is stemming from the fact that a few fans are acting like we are going to be in the gutte for the next 10 years and no Free Agents will sign with us because Torre left.

yeah, well there are always a few overly pessimistic types. But I still don't see why Torre apparently getting another high-profile job should touch off yet another round of bashing. Joe's long gone. I got over it. It's time the critics got over it.

TheBamTino24
10-30-07, 12:13 AM
Why is this nowhere else except this website?

Abraham was just on WFAN.

46Mattingly23
10-30-07, 12:15 AM
Torre's boy Proctor is there, Mattingly's son Preston is in their minor league system, it makes sense, but seeing Don Mattingly in another team's uniform would be surreal.

Spiker101
10-30-07, 12:16 AM
Abraham was just on WFAN.

I assume he's standing by the story? because it is strange that no one else has it yet.

TheBamTino24
10-30-07, 12:17 AM
I assume he's standing by the story? because it is strange that no one else has it yet.

Yes he is. He mentioned that his Dodger sources did not refer to Little being fired. I know they picked up his options for 2008 and 2009, but maybe he'll be moved in the organization?

Abraham confirmed that Torre mentioned Mattingly had to be on his staff, and they are trying to get Long.

BTW, for those discussing Rivera to the Dodgers, Saito is a FA.


Takashi Saito p
1 year/$1M (2007)

re-signed 12/06
$0.3M in performance bonuses
$25,000 each for 30, 35, 40 & 45 games
$50,000 each for 50 & 55 games
$0.1M for 60 games

1 year/$0.5M (2006)
contract purchased 4/06
signed as free agent from Japan 2/06 (minor-league contract)
agent: Shigeyuki Mito

ML service: 1.000

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html

Roberto Kelly
10-30-07, 12:19 AM
I assume he's standing by the story? because it is strange that no one else has it yet.

Olney just referenced it on ESPN.

46Mattingly23
10-30-07, 12:20 AM
Could Posada, Pettite, & Rivera follow Torre to LA? Arod?

I could see Andy, A-Rod, and possibly Mo on the Dodgers, but LA already has a younger, cheaper, just as talented Catcher in Russ Martin, I don't think they will replace him anytime soon. I don't know if they would replace Saito either but they could move him to setup man I guess.

Spiker101
10-30-07, 12:20 AM
Yes he is.

BTW, for those discussing Rivera to the Dodgers, Saito is a FA.



http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html

Ah ha! The plot thickens.

bmxstreetrider86
10-30-07, 12:21 AM
Yes he is. He mentioned that his Dodger sources did not refer to Little being fired. I know they picked up his options for 2008 and 2009, but maybe he'll be moved in the organization?

Abraham confirmed that Torre mentioned Mattingly had to be on his staff, and they are trying to get Long.

BTW, for those discussing Rivera to the Dodgers, Saito is a FA.



http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html


do MLB rookie rules apply to him? mainly the service time to qualify for FA?

Clemens831
10-30-07, 12:22 AM
You may not be aware of it but the Dodger's current manager is Grady Little.

Oh, I'm totally aware. But just because Torre MAY be better than Little doesn't mean that he's the right solution for this Dodger team. Seems like a mismatch to me...even if it IS a step up.

Clemens831
10-30-07, 12:23 AM
Yes he is. He mentioned that his Dodger sources did not refer to Little being fired. I know they picked up his options for 2008 and 2009, but maybe he'll be moved in the organization?

Abraham confirmed that Torre mentioned Mattingly had to be on his staff, and they are trying to get Long.

BTW, for those discussing Rivera to the Dodgers, Saito is a FA.



http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/los-angeles-dodgers.html

TBT, I'm still not worried. Mo's said Torre being back was not going to influence his decision. He knows his legacy as a Yankee and has said numerous times that his dream is to pitch in the new stadium. Couple that with the fact that the Yankees will show him more $$$ than anyone else...and I doubt he's going anywhere.

TheBamTino24
10-30-07, 12:31 AM
I'd be mildly surprised if Pettitte, Posada, or Rivera left the Yankees for the Dodgers. But now there's an actual team that Torre, and Mattingly, are a part of.

We'll see how this all plays out. Throw A-Rod into that mix too I guess. What drama, lol!

JeffWeaverFan
10-30-07, 12:31 AM
Scott Protcor just can't escape Joe, no matter what...
I feel horrible for him.

I'd like to keep Long, but I'll leave that up to Girardi.

Saito is not a FA by the way. He's arbitration eligible and is under the Dodgers control.

It'll be interesting to see how Joe does with that team and without the talent he had in NY.

Sam18
10-30-07, 12:32 AM
Joe on Letterman right now for those interested.

bcom33
10-30-07, 12:36 AM
Joe on Letterman right now for those interested.

Yeah, I'm watching this too.

yanks710
10-30-07, 12:37 AM
Alright so Joe just said that rumors are false...but then again this was filmed earlier

bcom33
10-30-07, 12:37 AM
Alright so Joe just said that rumors are false...but then again this was filmed earlier

He said "There's nothing to it...yet"

dkman
10-30-07, 12:38 AM
Torre saying the LA talk is just a rumor so far. He said there haven't been any developments there, and that he really doesn't think about managing until December. He said stuff written in the paper has been false before.

All this as per Torre on Letterman, I doubt there has been too much going on since the filming.

Chacon
10-30-07, 12:38 AM
He said "There's nothing to it...yet"

QFT and it was filmed 6 hours ago

jimmykey2
10-30-07, 12:38 AM
Are the Dodgers serious about this? Doesn't anyone else think that this is an unwise move on their behalf? I mean, this is a team brimming with YOUNG talent (Martin, Kemp, Loney, Ethier) but also bogged down with veteran contracts (Kemp, Pierre, Garciaparra). One of the major problems the Dodgers had this year was splitting playing time between the vets and the rookies and apparently it caused a lot of animosity. I can't imagine that Torre, with his professed preference for veterans, will possibly make this any better...on the other hand, there's a danger of him retarding the growth of some of these young players. Broxton, Proctor, et al...better get their arms REALLY loose...


I hate to say this again, but since someone said it again...


Joe Torre has ALWAYS played GOOD young players. Nick Johnson, Alfonso Soriano, and Robinson Cano are just three examples. You won't find 1 player who left NY, then blossomed into a star because of Torre's refusal to play him. What young player has been a victim of having "their growth retarded" under Torre?

Just because you may not like him (an assumption on my part) doesn't mean the things you're saying are true.

This is a good move for both sides. Even so, that doesn't mean they're guaranteed to win.

Stardust
10-30-07, 12:39 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/sports/baseball/30torre.html?ref=sports


Two major league officials said yesterday that the Los Angeles Dodgers (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/sports/baseball/majorleague/losangelesdodgers/index.html?inline=nyt-org) planned to fire Grady Little (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/grady_little/index.html?inline=nyt-per) as their manager and replace him with Torre, who would make Mattingly a coach on his staff. The officials were granted anonymity because they were speaking about moves that were not final.

Octoberbaby
10-30-07, 12:42 AM
I wonder if his salary structure-years, bonuses, base-will compare with the Yanks' offer. Hopefully ti won't be as insulting.

I am sure it wasn't since the Dodgers, unlike the Yankee Organization, seem to want him!

-tz
10-30-07, 12:43 AM
I like this from Abraham ...


Here’s hoping Clint Hurdle names Torre to the coaching staff for the All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium next season.http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/10/29/breaking-news-torre-to-dodgers/

That would be a nice gesture and he'd almost have to accept.

brosiusbuddy
10-30-07, 12:46 AM
Obviously I want the Yankees to win the World Series next year and every year, but if, in fact, Torre does take over the Dodgers and the Yankees fail to make it to the World Series, I would absolutely love to see the Dodgers win it all, as unlikely as that may be, just to spite George Steinbrenner and Randy Levine. Regardless of the plans they had for Torre and the future of the Yankees prior to the contract offer, their treatment of Torre was terrible.

Sam18
10-30-07, 12:48 AM
I like this from Abraham ...

http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/10/29/breaking-news-torre-to-dodgers/

That would be a nice gesture and he'd almost have to accept.

There'd be a rain delay from Joe's tears when he hears the crowd's ovation.

Michaels07
10-30-07, 01:08 AM
It`s a done deal.

Michaels07
10-30-07, 01:10 AM
Send Cashman to the Dodgers.

brosiusbuddy
10-30-07, 01:12 AM
Send Cashman to the Dodgers.

Are you sure? Do you want him to take all the prospects he got us with him? Wang, Cano, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy?

ARoDfan4life
10-30-07, 01:12 AM
I hope he doesn't get insulted w/ the contract :D

yanks710
10-30-07, 01:13 AM
What's next...jeter demands a trade to the dodgers?

ARoDfan4life
10-30-07, 01:14 AM
Are you sure? Do you want him to take all the prospects he got us with him? Wang, Cano, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy?

that's Oppenheimer baby, he ain't going nowhere but Cashman did get the latin scouts and Oppenheimer and Eppler

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 01:14 AM
On Letterman tonight, Torre said that all the rumors of him going to the Dodgers are untrue.

ARoDfan4life
10-30-07, 01:15 AM
What's next...jeter demands a trade to the dodgers?

I'd do it for Looney, Furcal and Saito ;)

yanks710
10-30-07, 01:17 AM
I'd do it for Looney, Furcal and Saito ;)

Nahh... I'll just take him for Nomaaah:D

Michaels07
10-30-07, 01:18 AM
Are you sure? Do you want him to take all the prospects he got us with him? Wang, Cano, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy?


He did not scout them nor did he do the draft.Oppenheimer was the man.

ARoDfan4life
10-30-07, 01:19 AM
Nahh... I'll just take him for Nomaaah:D

:mad:

Matsui-San
10-30-07, 01:21 AM
ESPN has picked up on the Torre to LA story. :eek:

a-RobinsonCano-Fan
10-30-07, 01:21 AM
Breaking news at 1:23 via ESPN, torre will def be dodgers manager.

I really hope he does well.

brosiusbuddy
10-30-07, 01:23 AM
He did not scout them nor did he do the draft.Oppenheimer was the man.

He hired the scouts and he did not trade them when some other GMs might have... for guys like Gagne. Cashman is righting the ship. He stays

ARoDfan4life
10-30-07, 01:23 AM
Breaking news at 1:23 via ESPN, torre will def be dodgers manager.

I really hope he does well.

they don't want Pete Ab. stealing the spotlight for this, how long before Kobe is traded :dunno:

Chacon
10-30-07, 01:23 AM
Peter Abraham on Sportscenter, getting credit for breaking the story

a-RobinsonCano-Fan
10-30-07, 01:24 AM
Petey also stated that Mattingly will also follow for sure

Chubzilla06
10-30-07, 01:25 AM
Torre named Dodger Manager

Krall
10-30-07, 01:30 AM
Breaking news at 1:23 via ESPN, torre will def be dodgers manager.

I really hope he does well.

They didn't say def, they had one reporter on who said you would be a fool to publish a report that Torre has been manage the Dodgers and Abrams came on saying that it was confirmed with 2 sources...

One note of interest regaurding Mattingly is that his son Preston is in their farm system.

JeffWeaverFan
10-30-07, 01:30 AM
On Letterman tonight, Torre said that all the rumors of him going to the Dodgers are untrue.
And once again he lied. So Joe knew that he would have an offer from the Dodgers, which is probably the reason he rejected the Yankee offer, and then had the audacity to claim that he was "insulted" by the Yankees offering incentives in the deal even though he had them in previous contracts. His true colors are showing.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 01:30 AM
On ESPN, they just finished talking about the Joe Torre situation and such, and as SportsCenter was ending, the anchor jokingly said in a dry voice, "The Red Sox won the World Series." :lol:

R.V.47
10-30-07, 01:32 AM
Im actually really surprised. I thought this was a rumor at best.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 01:32 AM
This would make sense to finish his career out, really. He was a Dodgers (albeit of the Brooklyn variety) fan as a kid, wasn't he?

If this goes through, I expect that Clint Hurdle will have Joe as a coach in next year's All Star game...that would be cool.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 01:35 AM
Peter Abraham is a big pro-Torre fellow (me too), so I'll believe it when I see it.

Tabata
10-30-07, 01:40 AM
I'm shocked by this move.

Any word on how much the deal is going to be?

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 01:42 AM
I'm shocked by this move.

Any word on how much the deal is going to be?

Hopefully not 1 year, $5 million. :D

Tabata
10-30-07, 01:50 AM
Hopefully not 1 year, $5 million. :D

Hehe

He'll get a 2 year deal for sure but how much money are the Dodgers going to give him? How much is Little on now?

yanks710
10-30-07, 01:51 AM
Hopefully not 1 year, $5 million. :D

Don't forget the incentives!

yankeesAZ
10-30-07, 01:57 AM
Good for Joe. Now we can move on.

Dimaggio-Fan
10-30-07, 03:36 AM
How cool would it be if A-Rod heads out to LA with Torre. I'm all about the Yankees but its almost out of a movie or something. To have Torre,Mattingly and A-Rod all for the time being spurned Yankees head west to bring a championship to a team that at one time had a legacy that was only rivaled by the Yankees. This really could make things a lot more interesting on the NL side of things.

Tabata
10-30-07, 03:40 AM
How cool would it be if A-Rod heads out to LA with Torre. I'm all about the Yankees but its almost out of a movie or something. To have Torre,Mattingly and A-Rod all for the time being spurned Yankees head west to bring a championship to a team that at one time had a legacy that was only rivaled by the Yankees. This really could make things a lot more interesting on the NL side of things.

That wouldn't be good for us at all. We wouldn't get a 1st round pick.

RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
10-30-07, 03:48 AM
How cool would it be if A-Rod heads out to LA with Torre. I'm all about the Yankees but its almost out of a movie or something. To have Torre,Mattingly and A-Rod all for the time being spurned Yankees head west to bring a championship to a team that at one time had a legacy that was only rivaled by the Yankees. This really could make things a lot more interesting on the NL side of things.

We would lose the 1st rounder. Plus, I wouldn't say A-Rod is a "spurned Yankee."

Tabata
10-30-07, 04:04 AM
We should all be rooting for the Cubs to sign A-Rod and not the Giants or Dodgers.

The Tigers would be nice also, since we would get the #21 pick and A-Rod would have to play at the Stadium again. So lets hope that rumor is true.

johnnyyankee
10-30-07, 04:18 AM
Whoa- I've had enough shock/surprises from the Yankees or ex-Yankees in the last two weeks to last me a few years. This is just incredible, if true. The Dodgers are bringing in Yankees to lead their team on the field? Weird. Could you imagine if the Yankees hired Tommy Lasorda as manager and he brought Steve Garvey or Ron Cey with him as bench coach?

I'm wondering how Mattingly thinks being the Dodgers bench coach is better than remaining ( in some capacity) with the Yankees. Does he really think being Joe Torre's bench coach again is going to lead to a managerial job?

What has transpired the past two weeks ( or even 24 hours) belongs in some bizarro world.


Mattingly's son was drafted by the Dodgers. It's a nice opportunity for them to work together while Donnie remains with a manager he knows and is comfortable with.

PoughVirginiaYankee
10-30-07, 04:28 AM
This seems to be picking up steam....Congrats for Torre and Mattingly, but this seriously will affect re-signing Mo, Jorge, and Pettite.....not good.

Dimaggio-Fan
10-30-07, 04:29 AM
We should all be rooting for the Cubs to sign A-Rod and not the Giants or Dodgers.

The Tigers would be nice also, since we would get the #21 pick and A-Rod would have to play at the Stadium again. So lets hope that rumor is true.

I'll root for A-Rod to go to the Dodgers regardless, the more dramatic the scenario the better I say. I'll always love the Yankees, but Joe and Don are like family and if A-Rod can help them get some justice then I'm all for it.

followwind
10-30-07, 05:13 AM
The local media here is saying it's a 3 year 12 mil deal.

We will see if that's true...

sweet_lou_14
10-30-07, 06:33 AM
Not to be totally rude here, but how am I supposed to take Torre seriously when he talks about how badly he wanted to stay here and then proceeds to take another job a mere week after he turns down the Yankees deal.

I guess you think he should mope around about it a while? Please.

He's taking the job a week later because a week later is when the job is being offered. It's now or wait until next year.

sweet_lou_14
10-30-07, 06:37 AM
a team that at one time had a legacy that was only rivaled by the Yankees

The Dodgers on the best day in their history never had "a legacy that was only rivaled by the Yankees" ... the Yankees have a legacy that is rivaled by no one, and that's been true since the 1930s.

The Dodgers' "legacy" does rank up there with teams like the Cardinals though. That, I'll give them.

sugmasterflex
10-30-07, 06:50 AM
Kevin Long better stay.

Donnie will back with the Yankees soon enough...

TheScooter
10-30-07, 07:06 AM
Long is staying

the Yankees and Girardi moved swiftly to keep hitting coach Kevin Long, who is expected to sign a rare three-year deal for close to $1 million.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10302007/sports/yankees/girardi_ready_to_take_reins.htm

Bugg
10-30-07, 07:08 AM
You ought to listen to yourself once in a while. What the hell do you think Girardi did before he got his first job as manager? This is a perfect spot for Donnie if he wants to manage a big time franchise. Torre is 67, 2-3 more years and he's out of there and there sits Donnie, the obvious replacement.Well, then, like Randolph before him, don't act suprised when after another unsuccessful interview he starts hearing again that he doesn't have the experience. Girardi, if you read my original post, took a bottom feeder job with the Marlins. It's becoming clearer now-Mattingly thought being Donnie Baseball and wearing glasses was going to carry the day. Does he think that's gona matter to some other franchise? And there's no getting around it-the come late, leaver early Torre MO isn't going to fly any more.The man is a dinosaur.

JeterForPresident
10-30-07, 07:12 AM
Long is staying

the Yankees and Girardi moved swiftly to keep hitting coach Kevin Long, who is expected to sign a rare three-year deal for close to $1 million.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10302007/sports/yankees/girardi_ready_to_take_reins.htm

Glad to hear it, I love Torre, but if he starts trying to take pieces of the team away and bringing them with him, I will start getting upset with him.

Mattingly not included, I understand what Donnie is doing and I wish him the best, I wanted him to manage the Yanks, but perhaps a few more years as a bench coach and a team like the Dodgers will give him a chance to manage.

sugmasterflex
10-30-07, 07:18 AM
Long is staying

the Yankees and Girardi moved swiftly to keep hitting coach Kevin Long, who is expected to sign a rare three-year deal for close to $1 million.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10302007/sports/yankees/girardi_ready_to_take_reins.htm


Cool. The emergence of Robinson Cano will continue.

StatenIslandYankee
10-30-07, 07:19 AM
The Dodgers are set to hire Joe Torre as manager, The Journal News is reporting.
Grady Little will be fired less than a month after ownership said he'd be back as manager. Don Mattingly is expected to follow Torre to Los Angeles as the bench coach.

http://rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=MLB&hl=225765

YankeePride1967
10-30-07, 07:24 AM
The Dodgers just might be good enough to lose in the first round of the playoffs with Torre.

If Joe gets that team that far, even in the NL as it stands, then he will really prove himself a great manager. Because as it stands right now, the Dodgers are not a good team.

Tabata
10-30-07, 07:42 AM
I'll root for A-Rod to go to the Dodgers regardless, the more dramatic the scenario the better I say. I'll always love the Yankees, but Joe and Don are like family and if A-Rod can help them get some justice then I'm all for it.

Justice for what?

Bugg
10-30-07, 07:48 AM
Justice for what?Apparenly paying a manager somewhere between $5 and 8 million and 3b/SS $28 million is a great injustice.

We should all be so lucky as to be so insulted.

JavyVazquezIsSick
10-30-07, 07:55 AM
Long would be a great re-sign, Bowa needs to come back too.

YankeePride1967
10-30-07, 07:55 AM
You ought to listen to yourself once in a while. What the hell do you think Girardi did before he got his first job as manager? This is a perfect spot for Donnie if he wants to manage a big time franchise. Torre is 67, 2-3 more years and he's out of there and there sits Donnie, the obvious replacement.

I fully think that is the plan. Joe at 68 is not there for the long haul, and the way the team is built now, it will take more than 2008 for them to be where they want. I think Don is lined up to take over in 2011.

YankeePride1967
10-30-07, 07:56 AM
Apparenly paying a manager somewhere between $5 and 8 million and 3b/SS $28 million is a great injustice.

We should all be so lucky as to be so insulted.

Agreed. Although I don't blame Joe if he was insulted by the "take it or leave it" way it was presented. But as for the money/incentive part, sorry.