View Full Version : Has Jeter made a public statement.....
Sixty one
10-21-07, 11:02 AM
regarding Torre's departure? I can't find anything about the Captain's feelings and opinions about this matter....have any of you seen anything regarding this matter?
He's still out there trying to see if he can get some. ;)
jimmyclark
10-21-07, 11:33 AM
Nike guys don't say anything controversial or threatening.
PuffNettles9
10-21-07, 11:35 AM
Nike guys don't say anything controversial or threatening.
Technically, He is a "Jordan" Guy
hardrain
10-21-07, 11:40 AM
I doubt Jeter will say anything of note.
Jeter doesn't need to say anything. Everyone knows his feelings for "Mr. T," but he's not going to come out to the media and say something like he wants a trade. He is still under contract and for all I know maybe he loves being a Yankee so much that this Torre situation isn't enough to run him off the team. And as long as he is going to stay on the team, he's the captain and won't want to stir trouble.
I thought I read that Jeter was travelling somewhere. I think last year he went to Germany.
PJMPirate
10-21-07, 11:52 AM
Of course not. Why would he say anything? He's just the freakin' team captain.
Dirty Coke
10-21-07, 12:12 PM
I thought I read that Jeter was travelling somewhere. I think last year he went to Germany.
He's in Los Angeles.
Jersey Yankee
10-21-07, 12:38 PM
I'm sure he'd have something to say if a new captain decided that, given that A-Rod returns, that Alex would be the SS and not Jeter. What if the new captain said that Jeter plays 2B or something?
I'm sure he'd have something to say if a new captain decided that, given that A-Rod returns, that Alex would be the SS and not Jeter. What if the new captain said that Jeter plays 2B or something?
I thought Jeter was the Captain?
Andy
iWant27
10-21-07, 01:29 PM
As usual , he is not gonna say anything .
Even if he says something it would be useless chatter .
I was reading this on the yankees.lohudblogs.com .
" If Rodriguez returns to the Yankees, it will be as a true team leader. He is far more of a mentor to the younger players than Jeter and with a new manager in place, that dynamic will become even more pronounced. He would welcome the idea of Mattingly being manager. "
I dont dislike Jeter or anything , I mean if he is not a mentor to young kids , what kind of captain he is really .
iWant27
10-21-07, 01:31 PM
I thought Jeter was the Captain?
Andy
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
stephsamps
10-21-07, 01:44 PM
As usual , he is not gonna say anything .
Even if he says something it would be useless chatter .
I was reading this on the yankees.lohudblogs.com .
" If Rodriguez returns to the Yankees, it will be as a true team leader. He is far more of a mentor to the younger players than Jeter and with a new manager in place, that dynamic will become even more pronounced. He would welcome the idea of Mattingly being manager. "
I dont dislike Jeter or anything , I mean if he is not a mentor to young kids , what kind of captain he is really .
I am not sure where he got that information. I mean, Shelley spent one of his post game interviews detailing how Jeter had found something in his swing and had been working with him and Shelley was so happy that he was able to do whatever Derek was talking to him about. Cano and Melky have also spoken highly of Jeter. Just because stuff isn't in your face or publicized, that doesn't mean its not happening, especially with a guy like Jeter who's not really a fan of doing anything through the press.
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
Uh oh, someone just shot a sacred cow!!!!!!
Still I more or less agree.
Jersey Yankee
10-21-07, 01:51 PM
I thought Jeter was the Captain?
Andy
The Yanks made him the captain. If the manager asked him to play somewhere other than SS, what would his being the captain do to change that? I thought that being a captain was only a figurehead thing, like you're the team leader.
Weren't Gehrig, Mattingly and Munson previous captains? Unless Scooter was a captain, I don't think we've had a SS as our captain.
Either case, I still think that if A-Rod returns, he should be our SS, not 3Bman. If Jeter can't play 3B, then put Cano there and let Jeter play 2B.
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
Damn.
Jersey Yankee
10-21-07, 01:53 PM
Uh oh, someone just shot a sacred cow!!!!!!
Still I more or less agree.
Nothing's sacred if it's honest and has truth in it. Kinda like when the butt nekkid king walked about and everyone was too scared to tell him that he had no clothes on. The king was walking around w/o any clothes.
If Jeter wants to help the team, I think that moving from SS would be a great start. That and resting him, Posada and others in September before we reach the playoffs would be nice.
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
From a statistics standpoint, Jeter is one of the best shortstops in baseball every year. He isn't just a singles hitter either. He usually hits around 15 home runs with 40 doubles. His defense is made up for by his hitting, because it is so rare to have a player hit like he does from the shortstop position.
As usual , he is not gonna say anything .
Even if he says something it would be useless chatter .
I was reading this on the yankees.lohudblogs.com .
" If Rodriguez returns to the Yankees, it will be as a true team leader. He is far more of a mentor to the younger players than Jeter and with a new manager in place, that dynamic will become even more pronounced. He would welcome the idea of Mattingly being manager. "
I dont dislike Jeter or anything , I mean if he is not a mentor to young kids , what kind of captain he is really .
Peter Abraham has turned against Derek because Derek hasn't vocally stood up for Torre this year (now or before). He's a hack as is, but you can't take his opinion seriously when it comes to anything that springs off of his boyfriend Joe's situation.
'Captain' is just another name for face of the organization or figurehead anyway though, regardless.
Casey37
10-21-07, 02:44 PM
He's not going to say anything. He's not the type to rock the boat.
fredgmuggs
10-21-07, 02:53 PM
Well, I guess now that Joe is gone some have moved on to declaring open season on Jeter.I'll be glad when all the 'Rings" guys are gone and all this nonsense has ended.
Why can't people appreciate what they have, instead of having to find fault with it?
Casey37
10-21-07, 03:08 PM
Why can't people appreciate what they have, instead of having to find fault with it?
Unfortunately, it's human nature, Fred. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.
Jeter doesn't need to say anything. No need to turn this into a soap opera. This is baseball.
TheBamTino24
10-21-07, 03:20 PM
Nothing from Derek Jeter or George Steinbrenner, which is odd.
roblyo33
10-21-07, 03:28 PM
Nothing's sacred if it's honest and has truth in it. Kinda like when the butt nekkid king walked about and everyone was too scared to tell him that he had no clothes on. The king was walking around w/o any clothes.
If Jeter wants to help the team, I think that moving from SS would be a great start. That and resting him, Posada and others in September before we reach the playoffs would be nice.
Do that, and we don't make the playoffs........how does that sound???
Game4Tino
10-21-07, 04:02 PM
From a statistics standpoint, Jeter is one of the best shortstops in baseball every year. He isn't just a singles hitter either. He usually hits around 15 home runs with 40 doubles. His defense is made up for by his hitting, because it is so rare to have a player hit like he does from the shortstop position.
What statistics are you looking at? Jeter is most certainly NOT one of the best shorstops in baseball.
PJMPirate
10-21-07, 04:03 PM
Peter Abraham has turned against Derek because Derek hasn't vocally stood up for Torre this year (now or before). He's a hack as is, but you can't take his opinion seriously when it comes to anything that springs off of his boyfriend Joe's situation.
Sorry you feel that way. I think it's disgraceful that the guy who is supposed to be the leader of the team is so reluctant to express his opinion. He could have killed the whole A-Rod mess last year with one quote and... nothing. He could help smooth the Torre situation and... nothing. He always sails through controversy, never saying anything too opinionated. He's the Stepford wife of baseball.
Not to mention that he could make the team better by moving one position to his right. But no...
roblyo33
10-21-07, 04:25 PM
After everyone has finished skewering Torre and Jeter, who is next??? Mo, Jorge, Robbie..............????
Sorry you feel that way. I think it's disgraceful that the guy who is supposed to be the leader of the team is so reluctant to express his opinion. He could have killed the whole A-Rod mess last year with one quote and... nothing. He could help smooth the Torre situation and... nothing. He always sails through controversy, never saying anything too opinionated. He's the Stepford wife of baseball.
Not to mention that he could make the team better by moving one position to his right. But no...
Sorry I can tell Abraham's Torre-obsessed MO just from what people unfortunately keep quoting here? What?
When a new manager is named, Jeter has to speak and, for the good of the team, has to embrace him while still giving Torre respect. If he doesn't, then he should be ripped for it. Until then, there's almost nothing he can say that won't piss some group off. Given that a lot of people can't even handle Hank's mostly harmless and fair comments, we don't need more of that when it's avoidable at the moment.
Jdkush10
10-21-07, 04:59 PM
Sorry you feel that way. I think it's disgraceful that the guy who is supposed to be the leader of the team is so reluctant to express his opinion. He could have killed the whole A-Rod mess last year with one quote and... nothing. He could help smooth the Torre situation and... nothing. He always sails through controversy, never saying anything too opinionated. He's the Stepford wife of baseball.
Not to mention that he could make the team better by moving one position to his right. But no...
How do you know he didn't express his opinion? Because you didn't read about it? Just because something isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If Jeter DID express his opinion to the FO, why does he have to talk to the press about it as well? Some people on here never seem to be satisfied: whenever Sheff spouted out some opinionated rant, he was an arrogant jerk - Jeter makes a concerted effort to avoid making such comments, and he's a disgraceful leader. Not making controversial statements about one's employer to the press is being a good employee - if you have anything to say, keep it in house. I'm sure Jeter has his opinions, but he keeps them within the confines of the team.
JeterForPresident
10-21-07, 05:18 PM
How do you know he didn't express his opinion? Because you didn't read about it? Just because something isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If Jeter DID express his opinion to the FO, why does he have to talk to the press about it as well? Some people on here never seem to be satisfied: whenever Sheff spouted out some opinionated rant, he was an arrogant jerk - Jeter makes a concerted effort to avoid making such comments, and he's a disgraceful leader. Not making controversial statements about one's employer to the press is being a good employee - if you have anything to say, keep it in house. I'm sure Jeter has his opinions, but he keeps them within the confines of the team.
Very well said, as much as I would Jeter to come out and make a public statement about Torre, I understand it isn't our business. I assume has spoken to Joe as I am sure some other players have as well. Jeter understands that being a leader and making a statement is done in the clubhouse and on the field, not in the papers and interviews.
PS, I love the people who think that if Jeter made a statement to the press to tell them to leave A-Rod alone, that A-Rod would have automatically begun hitting better.
PJMPirate
10-21-07, 05:58 PM
How do you know he didn't express his opinion? Because you didn't read about it? Just because something isn't publicized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If Jeter DID express his opinion to the FO, why does he have to talk to the press about it as well? Some people on here never seem to be satisfied: whenever Sheff spouted out some opinionated rant, he was an arrogant jerk - Jeter makes a concerted effort to avoid making such comments, and he's a disgraceful leader. Not making controversial statements about one's employer to the press is being a good employee - if you have anything to say, keep it in house. I'm sure Jeter has his opinions, but he keeps them within the confines of the team.
I would have thought it was fairly obvious I was talking about making PUBLIC statements. Jeter is the team captain and public face of the franchise and as such has a responsibility that in my opinion he has not lived up to.
PS, I love the people who think that if Jeter made a statement to the press to tell them to leave A-Rod alone, that A-Rod would have automatically begun hitting better.
It sure as hell would have taken a lot of the pressure off of him.
Jeter publicly supported Giambi after Giambi admitted to taking steroids, and the A-Rod has a long slump, is getting crucified in the media and by the fans, and Jeter says nothing?
Jeter publicly supported Giambi after Giambi admitted to taking steroids, and the A-Rod has a long slump, is getting crucified in the media and by the fans, and Jeter says nothing?
Again, Jeter doesn't have to say anything. If anything, it's refreshing to see a professional athlete who doesn't open his F'n mouth any time something happens.
TheBamTino24
10-21-07, 08:01 PM
Again, Jeter doesn't have to say anything. If anything, it's refreshing to see a professional athlete who doesn't open his F'n mouth any time something happens.
I don't expect anything from Jeter. Despite being the "captain," he never says anything.
Unless you knew, you could never guess he was the captain by simply watching the Yankees.
"The Straw"
10-21-07, 08:06 PM
He still works for the Yankees :-shrug-: What's he supposed to do? Publicly rip his Bosses for firing Torre. That would be a great example to set for his teamates.
I don't expect anything from Jeter. Despite being the "captain," he never says anything.
Unless you knew, you could never guess he was the captain by simply watching the Yankees.
I actually think that's a good thing to get from your captain: somebody who just goes out there and plays ball, rather than someone who is constantly throwing quotes out there for the press to spin and turn into a PR war.
Yankees Empire
10-21-07, 09:13 PM
God, I hate this soap opera crap.
The last thing we need is Derek Jeter stirring up yet another Yankees-related media feeding frenzy.
I'm sure Jeter has some sort of opinion on Joe Torre and the Yankees' managerial situation. There's absolutely no need for him to make a public statement about it.
PJMPirate
10-21-07, 09:33 PM
Again, Jeter doesn't have to say anything. If anything, it's refreshing to see a professional athlete who doesn't open his F'n mouth any time something happens.
Yes, it's so refreshing to see a captain who doesn't publicly support his teammates.
:-whistle-
we all know what jeter is going to say anyway:
"Joe has been a great, it's gona be weird not seeing him around, but its time to move on and get ready to win a championship here"
we all know what jeter is going to say anyway:
"Joe has been a great, it's gona be weird not seeing him around, but its time to move on and get ready to win a championship here"
You should be DJ's publicist because I think you nailed it. Hes not gonna say anything controversial or say anything to loyal to Joe, its just not his way although im sure privately hes talked to Joe at least a few times since the season ended. It would be interesting to see what would happen if Jeter was a FA this year too like Mo and Po Id like to see if he would be taking the same hard line stance on Torre as Rivera and Posada.
Hitman23
10-22-07, 09:15 AM
God, I hate this soap opera crap.
The last thing we need is Derek Jeter stirring up yet another Yankees-related media feeding frenzy.
I'm sure Jeter has some sort of opinion on Joe Torre and the Yankees' managerial situation. There's absolutely no need for him to make a public statement about it.:cool:
yankswn23
10-22-07, 10:48 AM
He is not the yankees spokesman..he is the Yankees Captain..He leads by example. He is a role model for young kids..he plays the game right and always gives a 110% if that is not a Captain I don't know what is.. Look at Thurman with Reggie..similar with Jeter and Alex.. I don't remember Mattingly getting in players faces or openly talking to the media all the time..The great captains, Mattingly, Thurman and Jeter do their talking with their play..
Mantle'sMutt
10-22-07, 10:53 AM
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
C'mon. If you are a captain like Veritek, you can wear a big "C" on your shirt. Yeah, that looks cool. What a maroon.
Messerwhitescooter
10-22-07, 11:01 AM
"Mr. Torre meant a lot to me as a player here, and it is going to be weird with someone else managing, but this team still wants to win as badly as ever, no matter who the manager is."'
There I said it. Jete's statement won't be much different. Jeez.
Changes
10-22-07, 11:37 AM
His mom probably said it time and time again, "Derek if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all".
HerbieLee20
10-22-07, 11:53 AM
Precisely why I really felt for him as he was grounding into the DPs due to his knee issues having an impact on his play. He wasn't going to be saying anything about his knees ("making excuses"). He's stated his feelings privately now, as well. No doubt he has contacted Joe.
He's the last person I'd have a complaint with (that goes for the playoff as well).
MaximMan121
10-22-07, 11:58 AM
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
Laugh. For what it's worth, I think Jeter is overpaid too. However.
2007
.322/.388/.452 VORP 53.3 (23 in MLB)
2006
.344/.417/.483 VORP 80.5 (3rd in MLB)
2005
.309/.389/,450 VORP 59.6 (15th in MLB)
And so on, and so forth. He's not a singles hitter.
JfromJersey
10-22-07, 12:06 PM
When has Jeter ever had anything to say of any importance?
He's good in commercials though.
Jdkush10
10-22-07, 12:07 PM
Yes, it's so refreshing to see a captain who doesn't publicly support his teammates.
:-whistle-
I could have sworn I saw you say he publicly supported Giambi a few posts up...
Yankees1962
10-22-07, 12:13 PM
He is not the yankees spokesman..he is the Yankees Captain..He leads by example. He is a role model for young kids..he plays the game right and always gives a 110% if that is not a Captain I don't know what is.. Look at Thurman with Reggie..similar with Jeter and Alex.. I don't remember Mattingly getting in players faces or openly talking to the media all the time..The great captains, Mattingly, Thurman and Jeter do their talking with their play..
Thank you. As I stated earlier in another thread, he's the Yankees team captain, not the president of the Joe Torre fan club. I'm sure he made his feelings known to management and to Torre, but in the end he is only a player that happens to be the team captain.
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
You didn't read the post that I responded to
The Yanks made him the captain. If the manager asked him to play somewhere other than SS, what would his being the captain do to change that? I thought that being a captain was only a figurehead thing, like you're the team leader.
Weren't Gehrig, Mattingly and Munson previous captains? Unless Scooter was a captain, I don't think we've had a SS as our captain.
Either case, I still think that if A-Rod returns, he should be our SS, not 3Bman. If Jeter can't play 3B, then put Cano there and let Jeter play 2B.
Please read your post that I responded to and my response. Hopefully you will see what I was getting at. You stated that "what if the Captain asked him to play second base". Jeter is the Captain, he wouldn't ask that of himself. I think what you meant was, what if the manager''', anyway I was just jesting with your choice of titles.
Andy
surge511
10-22-07, 03:43 PM
I don't see why it's Jeter's responsibility to open his mouth. He plays baseball, he doesn't run the team. If he said anything controversial, it would just create more of a zoo than the Yankees already are. He leads by example and doesn't cause trouble - I don't know what else you could want from the guy. He shouldn't change his personality just because he is the team leader.
jack111
10-22-07, 04:55 PM
As heroic as Jeter usually is on the field -- clutch hitting, heady defense, playing through injuries that would DL others -- he's a bit gutless when it comes to off-the-field stuff.
A better leader would have done more to take the heat off ARod last year -- a Pee Wee Reese-type gesture would have helped a lot. A better leader would have spoken out more for Joe.... It almost seems as if he's so desperate to protect his private life that he's afraid of doing anything that might draw undue attention to him off the field. It's sad because I think he'd find that New Yorkers will love him no matter what.
Yankees1962
10-22-07, 05:49 PM
As heroic as Jeter usually is on the field -- clutch hitting, heady defense, playing through injuries that would DL others -- he's a bit gutless when it comes to off-the-field stuff.
A better leader would have done more to take the heat off ARod last year -- a Pee Wee Reese-type gesture would have helped a lot. A better leader would have spoken out more for Joe.... It almost seems as if he's so desperate to protect his private life that he's afraid of doing anything that might draw undue attention to him off the field. It's sad because I think he'd find that New Yorkers will love him no matter what.
I don't think you know Jeter well enough to call him gutless. Everybody has their idea on what makes a person a leader. Perhaps, Jeter's idea just doesn't match yours.
PJMPirate
10-22-07, 06:12 PM
I could have sworn I saw you say he publicly supported Giambi a few posts up...
He did, but I was pointing out the discrepancy. Giambi did steroids, A-Rod was in a slump. Which one would YOU tell the fans to stop booing?
Jdkush10
10-23-07, 02:20 PM
He did, but I was pointing out the discrepancy. Giambi did steroids, A-Rod was in a slump. Which one would YOU tell the fans to stop booing?
If we're arguing over whether or not he should have at least tried to say something about A-Rod to the fans last year, then you and I are in agreement. I do wish he would have said something similar to what Varitek asked of fans regarding J.D. Drew. However, it may also be possible that Alex asked Derek to not saying anything, that the problems he was going through was something he wanted to work out on his own, etc. Who knows? :dunno:
He has now.
http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/10/23/jeter-releases-statement-on-torre/
“Out of my great respect for Mr. Torre, I have refrained from comment until he had a chance to address the public.
“In my eyes, Joe Torre is more than a Hall of Fame manager. He is a friend for life, and the relationship we have shared has helped shape me in ways that transcend the game of baseball. His class, dignity, and the way he respected those around him – from ballplayers to batboys – are all qualities that are easy to admire, but difficult to duplicate.
“I have known Mr. Torre for a good majority of my adult life, and there has been no bigger influence on my professional development. It was a privilege to play for him on the field, and an honor to learn from him off the field.”
ZYanksRule
10-23-07, 04:42 PM
Just beat me to it.
"The Straw"
10-23-07, 04:51 PM
How dare Jeter take the high road once again and make a classy statement supporting his friend :P What kind of Captain is he(Rolls Eyes)
JeterForPresident
10-23-07, 05:15 PM
It is a nice statement, exactly what you expect Jeter to say, he praises Torre and avoids any negative statements against the Yankees. A Jeterian statement indeed!
Sixty one
10-23-07, 05:22 PM
He has now.
http://yankees.lohudblogs.com/2007/10/23/jeter-releases-statement-on-torre/
I guess he got my message.:lol: :) :)
iWant27
10-23-07, 06:20 PM
How dare Jeter take the high road once again and make a classy statement supporting his friend :P What kind of Captain is he(Rolls Eyes)
Whats so "high road" about that statement and what has being captain to do with the statement .
From your post it seems like you think that the fans here were expecting some kind of controversial statement , except you . No they weren't . He made a typical "all good" statement which is what everyone was expecting and which is what he should do .
From your smiley it seems you are mocking some fans here and thinking you know better .
"The Straw"
10-23-07, 06:31 PM
My post was directed at those that think He's not a good Captain unless he comes out with a flame thrower and runs his mouth like a classless bufoon.
NYYDragoon
10-23-07, 06:31 PM
Whats so "high road" about that statement and what has being captain to do with the statement .
From your post it seems like you think that the fans here were expecting some kind of controversial statement , except you . No they weren't . He made a typical "all good" statement which is what everyone was expecting and which is what he should do .
From your smiley it seems you are mocking some fans here and thinking you know better .
Err, I took it as sarcasm...
Just Jeter being Jeter. I didn't expect anything less from him. Bravo.
surge511
10-23-07, 07:46 PM
I think that was about as good a statement as you could ask for. He always says the right thing, and doesn't cause any problems. He is as good a captain as I think any of us could ask for.
Epy7280
10-23-07, 08:17 PM
Jeter is a lousy Captain. He has the want to win and passion. But its just that i dont see him as a person to fire up a team. Yea he jumps into the stands to catch a ball but earlier in the game Pokey Reese makes a play alot harder than Jeter's and doesn't kill himself to make the play. Jeter is a smart baseball player thou, I have to admit that. To me he is just a figurehead of the Yankees or Pretty boy of the yankees. I would rather have Posada as a Captain cause at least he isn't afraid to start beef. I still remember a couple of years ago when he was catching in the All star game there were cameras places near home plate and he was covering them everytime he went to catch. That was cool. In other words he told FOX "f u".
The Q Bomb
10-23-07, 08:34 PM
How dare Jeter take the high road once again and make a classy statement supporting his friend :P What kind of Captain is he(Rolls Eyes) Your statement was almost as good as Jeter's! The Captain never let's you down. He may have hit into 12 double plays in the ALDS, but that statement was a homerun. Class guy. Class guy.
(And as far as having to fire up a team - I believe his title is "The Captain" not "The Cheerleader".)
yankeeman61
10-23-07, 08:37 PM
Out of my great respect for Mr. Torre, I have refrained from comment until he had a chance to address the public.
In my eyes, Joe Torre is more than a Hall of Fame manager. He is a friend for life, and the relationship we have shared has helped shape me in ways that transcend the game of baseball. His class, dignity, and the way he respected those around him from ballplayers to batboys are all qualities that are easy to admire, but difficult to duplicate.
I have known Mr. Torre for a good majority of my adult life, and there has been no bigger influence on my professional development. It was a privilege to play for him on the field, and an honor to learn from him off the field.
For those in leadership positions there isn't a better way to measure what type of leader you are than what the people you lead every day think about you. They obviously had a close relationship, but IMO a good part of Jeter's comments would be a consensus for the vast majority of players who played for Joe. We've heard a lot of it over the years.
For those who insist that Jeter's role as Captain is to be the Yankee spokesman on every topic, you couldn't be more wrong. Just because there are more cameras shoved in his face than the previous Yankee captains, doesn't mean he is required to make some sort of significant "statement" in response to every probing question. Munson was grumpy as all get out and Gerhig was quiet. I can't imagine anyone questioning their captainship.
And to question Jeter's "intestinal fortitude" if he avoids certain topics shows a lack of understanding as to what he is all about. He is actually quite skilled at giving the media nothing to play with, the exact opposite of Reggie Jackson. I loved Reggie as a player but always wished he would have just shut up.
I am willing to bet that if the question was asked to anyone who played with Jeter, what kind of leader he is you would hear similar comments to the ones DJ made about Torre.
ARoDfan4life
10-23-07, 09:29 PM
what a 1/2 a>>ed statement by the so-called capt. after 12 seasons w/ a manager he considers him to be like his father, he ducks the 3 weeks when Joe needed him and left him out to dry.
CLASSY my A$. :mad: PHONY IS MORE LIKE IT
I have known Mr. Torre for a good majority of my adult life, and there has been no bigger influence on my professional development. It was a privilege to play for him on the field, and an honor to learn from him off the field.
this is Joe Torre !!! not a damn card to Harvard executives !!
PJMPirate
10-23-07, 10:54 PM
My post was directed at those that think He's not a good Captain unless he comes out with a flame thrower and runs his mouth like a classless bufoon.
Where has anyone said that?
ARoDfan4life, what was Jeter supposed to say? "Fire Joe over my dead body"? He still works for the Yankees, you know.
ARoDfan4life
10-23-07, 11:27 PM
ARoDfan4life, what was Jeter supposed to say? "Fire Joe over my dead body"? He still works for the Yankees, you know.
Tz how does he stay shut when his guy was hanging for 2 weeks ? see if your a big Jeter fan what I said rubs people really wrong but are you kidding me ? Jetes when it comes to Torre writes a prepared statement & this after he was let go. You'd think Jeter would step up and take this sort of thing public, atleast Donnie Baseball had the guts to do that. It just shows what Jetes always ,he runs from comtreversy.
b-ball-lunachick
10-23-07, 11:56 PM
Nice statement by Jeter on Torre. :)
Derek almost always does and says the right thing -- he's a tough guy to dislike for non-Yankee fans...my only issue with Jeter is the way he handled the A-Rod situation but nobody's perfect...he's human and I think he learned from it -- I'm glad he's our Captain. :)
Yankees1962
10-24-07, 04:36 AM
Tz how does he stay shut when his guy was hanging for 2 weeks ? see if your a big Jeter fan what I said rubs people really wrong but are you kidding me ? Jetes when it comes to Torre writes a prepared statement & this after he was let go. You'd think Jeter would step up and take this sort of thing public, atleast Donnie Baseball had the guts to do that. It just shows what Jetes always ,he runs from comtreversy.
Sorry, but Jeter is a Yankee and as team captain will not criticize his team publicly because he probably feels it hurts the team more than help it. It's fine that you don't agree with that approach, but that still doesn't mean he's wrong in following his approach as to how he should conduct himself.
By the way, evidently Jeter was at the team complex in Tampa yesterday. IMO, I think he let management know his feelings on Torre's departure. Also, with him talking so positive about Torre's influence in his life, both on and off the field with Torre being a friend for life and without saying anything about Torre not being the Yankees manager any longer speaks volumes to me that he's not completely happy about it.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10242007/sports/yankees/making_a_surprise_appearance__.htm
Thank you, ARoDfan4life, for proving why he shouldn't have said anything at all until he had to, when a new manager was named.
Jdkush10
10-24-07, 09:02 AM
Tz how does he stay shut when his guy was hanging for 2 weeks ? see if your a big Jeter fan what I said rubs people really wrong but are you kidding me ? Jetes when it comes to Torre writes a prepared statement & this after he was let go. You'd think Jeter would step up and take this sort of thing public, atleast Donnie Baseball had the guts to do that. It just shows what Jetes always ,he runs from comtreversy.
You're right, Jeter definitely should have gone public and added to the swirling maelstrom that was surrounding the Yankee organization :uhh: What would be gained by going public with his comments? Do you honestly think the front office does not know how Jeter feels about Torre? Do you really think that if he went public that the front office would have offered Torre a contract he couldn't refuse, something that didn't happen even with the public comments of Posada, Rivera, and Mattingly combined?
HerbieLee20
10-24-07, 07:14 PM
A Jeterian statement indeed!
Love that! :)
Couldn't resist fixing:
A Jeterian (TM) statement indeed!
One thing about our "heroes": They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
Yanks4eva1
10-25-07, 07:16 AM
Wow, some people perceive that as long as you're loud and in your face, talking constantly, making their presence known - well, that's good leadership.
No, that good bullshyter pretending to be a good leader. Derek's statement is fine.
"nuf said... Let's move on and not analyze every syllable in what he said. UGH!
Dee
sturtze
10-25-07, 08:46 AM
we need tanyon sturtze back
yankeesAZ
10-30-07, 11:34 AM
Anyone know where Jeter is? If he's hiding in a bunker, I don't blame him.
Changes
10-30-07, 11:44 AM
Anyone know where Jeter is? If he's hiding in a bunker, I don't blame him.
Ford Modeling Agency lobby.
Mantle'sMutt
10-30-07, 11:50 AM
What do people want Jeter to say? Something like, "I'm glad that lying, selfish, greedy bastard is gone. Good riddance". ? OK, I'll say it for him. ;)
Sorry you feel that way. I think it's disgraceful that the guy who is supposed to be the leader of the team is so reluctant to express his opinion. He could have killed the whole A-Rod mess last year with one quote and... nothing. He could help smooth the Torre situation and... nothing. He always sails through controversy, never saying anything too opinionated. He's the Stepford wife of baseball.
Not to mention that he could make the team better by moving one position to his right. But no...I had a similar opinion last year, but after seeing how A-Rod and his Boras posse handled this mess, perhaps there was some logic behind it. Maybe A-Rod is what so many people think he is... a narcissistic egomaniac, and maybe that doesn't sit well with Jeter.
Jeter is a lousy Captain. He has the want to win and passion. But its just that i dont see him as a person to fire up a team. Yea he jumps into the stands to catch a ball but earlier in the game Pokey Reese makes a play alot harder than Jeter's and doesn't kill himself to make the play. Jeter is a smart baseball player thou, I have to admit that. To me he is just a figurehead of the Yankees or Pretty boy of the yankees. I would rather have Posada as a Captain cause at least he isn't afraid to start beef. I still remember a couple of years ago when he was catching in the All star game there were cameras places near home plate and he was covering them everytime he went to catch. That was cool. In other words he told FOX "f u".How do you know how effective he is as a captain? I said last year (although I'm withdrawing opinion after A-Rod's opt out display) that I think he should have spoken out on A-Rod's behalf, but maybe there was something to that. But I never said he was a lousy captain. The C on his jersey isn't intended to make him pop off on everything that occurs. And I think there's a reason everyone says it's "Jeter's team," that prominent players with nothing to gain have always spoken well in reference to him... Maybe he's just a silent leader.
gregzzy22
11-01-07, 06:49 PM
If anybody heard Jetes interview on M&MD today he CLEARLY showed how he feels about Arod pretty much dismissing him and saying hes confident ownership wont pursue him. He also said hes confident about Girardi and respects him very much.
Evil Empire
11-01-07, 06:56 PM
If anybody heard Jetes interview on M&MD today he CLEARLY showed how he feels about Arod pretty much dismissing him and saying hes confident ownership wont pursue him. He also said hes confident about Girardi and respects him very much.
What'd he say, specifically?
gregzzy22
11-01-07, 07:07 PM
What'd he say, specifically?
There might be some audio on wfan.com but when asked about alex he said 'from what I've seen so far, Hank and Hal are men of their words and I believe they will stick to their word' & I'm pretty sure he actually said 'I think hes done here' in a very calm and cold tone before moving on to another subject. The subject of Arod was discussed all of 3 minutes but it definetly caught me by surprise.
Yankees1962
11-02-07, 03:03 AM
There might be some audio on wfan.com but when asked about alex he said 'from what I've seen so far, Hank and Hal are men of their words and I believe they will stick to their word' & I'm pretty sure he actually said 'I think hes done here' in a very calm and cold tone before moving on to another subject. The subject of Arod was discussed all of 3 minutes but it definetly caught me by surprise.
Just to clarify what Jeter said, he basically stated the following, but I didn't detact any cold tone about it:
"I don't know what's going to happen, but one thing I learned about getting to know the Steinbrenners, especially Hank and Hal is that they are men of their words, they made a statement, so I don't know exactly what's going on or what's going on in the front office, but it sounds like it's not going to happen."
WashingtonYankee
11-02-07, 11:22 AM
In baseball being a Captain doesnt mean anything .
He is a singles hitter , who is an average SS and who is way overpaid .
Excuse me? Your mistaken. Very mistaken. He is a great SS.
Jeter doesn't need to come out and say something. His feelings are there.
yankswn23
11-02-07, 01:00 PM
I hope arod moves back to shortstop and jeter beats him in every category except for HR and RBI's because alex will win those..lol
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
11-02-07, 01:17 PM
Excuse me? Your mistaken. Very mistaken. He is a great SS.
If you mean offensively, I agree. However his range (especially to his left) definitely leaves something to be desired. That said, I still like him a lot.
Sixty one
11-02-07, 01:32 PM
If anybody heard Jetes interview on M&MD today he CLEARLY showed how he feels about Arod pretty much dismissing him and saying hes confident ownership wont pursue him. He also said hes confident about Girardi and respects him very much.
That had to be the best interview that Jeter has made in a long time. He sounded relaxed and was witty.....not the usual vanella type of interviews that he gives to the press. Could it be that he is relieved that Alex won't be around anymore and that he doesn't have to answer questions about him again??
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