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Yankee Steve
09-24-07, 08:55 PM
Texas scores 2 - retakes lead 6-5

Yankee Steve
09-24-07, 08:57 PM
Pudge up now. I hate him too...

the yankee
09-24-07, 09:02 PM
Hopefully we get to watch the Yanks celebrate tomorrow, I love those clinching celebrations!

I dont know how much the team is going to celebrate if we stay with the WC

Yankee Steve
09-24-07, 09:11 PM
At one point I believe the Yanks were 9 games out of a wild card berth. It definitely is something to celebrate. It punches a ticket for admission to the dance and a chance to win it all.

DCfan
09-24-07, 09:24 PM
At one point I believe the Yanks were 9 games out of a wild card berth. It definitely is something to celebrate. It punches a ticket for admission to the dance and a chance to win it all.
Exactly. I expect they'll celebrate the way they celebrate every year: somewhat understated, because the goal is to win it all, but still a genuine celebration. They're going back to the postseason for the 13th straight year --- why wouldn't they celebrate?

JeterForPresident
09-24-07, 09:27 PM
Exactly. I expect they'll celebrate the way they celebrate every year: somewhat understated, because the goal is to win it all, but still a genuine celebration. They're going back to the postseason for the 13th straight year --- why wouldn't they celebrate?

Good points, no point not to celebrate. There are a lot of kids on this team who have never been to the playoffs and who have been quite important to the turnaround this team made. From dead and buried to playoff berth, you have to celebrate that.

The Q Bomb
09-24-07, 10:02 PM
Exactly. I expect they'll celebrate the way they celebrate every year: somewhat understated, because the goal is to win it all, but still a genuine celebration. They're going back to the postseason for the 13th straight year --- why wouldn't they celebrate? In 2000 (I think) The Yankees had a terrible finish and ended up clinching the division on a night when they lost but Boston also lost to Tampa. At that point the team had lost like 18 out of 20 or something like that. Anyway, I remember thinking, "I hope they don't have the nerve to celebrate." And guess what! They did have "the nerve to celebrate". A reporter asked Scott Brosius about that and I will never forget his answer - "Of course we're celebrating. It's HARD to get here. Yeah, we scuffled coming down the stretch but we played so well the rest of the year that even with all the games we lost recently we still won the division. It's HARD to get here and we should celebrate all the hard work before we get on to more hard work." Of course, I'm paraphrasing Scottie here because I don't remember what he said verbatim - but it really changed my mind about the way I looked at that situation.

I was as disappointed as any fan in the way The Yanks played earlier in the year (and I want to emphasize "the way they played" over their won-loss record) and was extremely disappointed in today's loss - but I keep site of the tremendous turnaround the team engineered and the tremendous heart they had to have to do it. I want nothing more than to have them take the division from Boston (and still have a faint hope they can do it) - but I will commend them for just getting into the playoffs, even if "only" as a wild card. I never stopped hoping but frankly, back in May and early June, I really didn't think they would make it this year. I'm just hoping I'm wrong! Either way, I will commend them for overcoming all the injuries; re-tooling; for the rookies coming through (well some of them anyway); for the veterans who were able to coax out the extra effort and correct what was going wrong and for, as Derek Jeter, said, playing "all nine innings".

GO YANKS!

Kluivert4Ever
09-24-07, 10:12 PM
Being 9 games out of the WC lead (not only that but having to pass 6 different teams who all were infront of us by 9-3 games) at the ASB and making the playoffs is a cause for celebration.

roblyo33
09-24-07, 10:16 PM
Being 9 games out of the WC lead (not only that but having to pass 6 different teams who all were infront of us by 9-3 games) at the ASB and making the playoffs is a cause for celebration.

Agreed but, for some of us OB's (old bastards) who still remember the days when you had to win the league to go to the post season, it's engrained in us that you have to be #1 to go to the WS. That being said, if we win #27, it will be a moot point. But, I still want to win the Division. Go ahead, call me selfish and old fashioned...........that's OK.

E-Rod
09-24-07, 10:18 PM
Game Over
Texas 8
LAA 7

Texas is really a better team without Teixeira or at least they are playing better.

roblyo33
09-24-07, 10:20 PM
FWIW.......the Metropolitans were pounded at home, 13-4 by the Nationals.............

dabomb2045
09-24-07, 10:36 PM
Being 9 games out of the WC lead (not only that but having to pass 6 different teams who all were infront of us by 9-3 games) at the ASB and making the playoffs is a cause for celebration.

Absolutely. This team has played their tails off since late May. Most people (I admit even myself) thought they were dead when they were 9 games out of the WC trailing like 6-7 different teams.

They deserve to celebrate a bit for all the hard work they did to get back to the playoffs.

the yankee
09-24-07, 11:05 PM
Does anyone knows if Santana starts vs Detroit in the 2 games remaining in the series???

jeterismyhomeboy
09-24-07, 11:25 PM
Don't hang any hopes on Santana. I haven't checked the schedule, but he's been mediocre this year (for his standards), and he's not quite scary. I've also heard that he's been less than admirable against Detroit.

Doesn't matter though. All the Yanks have to do is win one freaking game against Tampa or Baltimore and Detroit goes bye-bye.

MassNYYfan
09-24-07, 11:30 PM
Must be a tough life for a yankee fan in boston. There was a yankee fan on here who married a redsox fan. Why the heck would someone submit themselves to such torture?


In 2003 my wife threw a chair at me after the Boone HR.

In 2004 I threw the laundry basket at her in retaliation.

Ok, the 2004 for part is a little lie, I took the laundry basket down to the basement and threw it around for a good 1/2 hour.

but the 2003 part.......yeah, didn't see that one coming. :lol:

ymike673
09-25-07, 12:54 AM
Does anyone knows if Santana starts vs Detroit in the 2 games remaining in the series???

I'd rather see Santana face the Red Sox than the Tigers.

in2dust2002
09-25-07, 02:28 AM
Does anyone knows if Santana starts vs Detroit in the 2 games remaining in the series???

He's scheduled to pitch game 3 of the Tigers series.

yanksphan
09-25-07, 06:18 AM
Agreed but, for some of us OB's (old bastards) who still remember the days when you had to win the league to go to the post season, it's engrained in us that you have to be #1 to go to the WS. That being said, if we win #27, it will be a moot point. But, I still want to win the Division. Go ahead, call me selfish and old fashioned...........that's OK.

I hear ya.

Janttje
09-25-07, 07:08 AM
Detroit is done..

effdamets
09-25-07, 08:05 AM
This thread is great today.

I just read through it and didn't miss a beat on the Detroit - Minnesota game last night!

Thanks all!!!! :D

JSG
09-25-07, 08:20 AM
In 2003 my wife threw a chair at me after the Boone HR.


a good buddy of mine, big red sox fan out in LA, was watching that game 7 at the home of another RSN buddy out on the Left Coast ............. well, right after the aaron FFFFFFin' boone HR, this guy punches thru the door to the den .......... in his own home ......... !!!!! PS wonder what he did after game 6 in '86 ............ ???!!! ..........

26 and counting
09-25-07, 09:09 AM
Only chance for the Tigers is to win all of their remaining games and hope that the Yankees go 0-6 vs. TB and BAL. And if that happens, they have to beat the Yanks in a 1-game playoff at Yankee Stadium.

roblyo33
09-25-07, 11:47 AM
a good buddy of mine, big red sox fan out in LA, was watching that game 7 at the home of another RSN buddy out on the Left Coast ............. well, right after the aaron FFFFFFin' boone HR, this guy punches thru the door to the den .......... in his own home ......... !!!!! PS wonder what he did after game 6 in '86 ............ ???!!! ..........

I have a former business associate, back in Boston, who threw his TV through a plate glass window in '86.....................claims he hasn't watched a Red Sux game since!!!!

roblyo33
09-25-07, 05:53 PM
Manny back in the Sux lineup tonite..........batting
2nd..........HUH???????

teknetic
09-25-07, 06:07 PM
Probably wants him to get an extra AB or so.

Jetfanmack
09-25-07, 06:15 PM
Daric Barton ftw!

1-0 Oakland, Barton homer off Schill.

Squid
09-25-07, 06:25 PM
Hey, remember when our odds to make the playoffs were in the 30s or even 20s?

Right now they're 99.99840.

Think we have a chance to sneak in? :)


The latest PECOTA odds:




AL East (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/aleastpec.png) W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs
Red Sox (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/RedSoxpsoddspec.php) 43 24 .622 102.2 59.8 91.94943 5.17496 97.12439
Yankees (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Yankeespsoddspec.php) 34 32 .577 89.1 72.9 7.31644 31.51532 38.83176
Blue Jays (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Bluepsoddspec.php) 33 34 .518 80.1 81.9 .62618 3.91366 4.53984
Devil Rays (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Devilpsoddspec.php) 29 37 .447 68.1 93.9 .01094 .03784 .04879
Orioles (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Oriolespsoddspec.php) 29 39 .504 74.8 87.2 .09701 .54885 .64586



AL Central (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/alcentpec.png) W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs
Indians (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Indianspsoddspec.php) 39 28 .549 92.4 69.6 55.70667 11.93139 67.63807
Tigers (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Tigerspsoddspec.php) 38 29 .547 90.5 71.5 40.00022 14.07614 54.07637
Twins (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Twinspsoddspec.php) 33 33 .500 80.3 81.7 4.19958 2.52152 6.72110
White Sox (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Whitepsoddspec.php) 28 36 .421 68.6 93.4 .08986 .04002 .12988
Royals (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Royalspsoddspec.php) 27 42 .400 63.5 98.5 .00367 .00177 .00543


AL West (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/aleestpec.png) W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs
Angels (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Angelspsoddspec.php) 43 26 .557 94.3 67.7 66.65762 10.57253 77.23014
Athletics (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Athleticspsoddspec.php) 37 30 .562 89.6 72.4 29.60198 16.33755 45.93953
Mariners (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Marinerspsoddspec.php) 35 30 .479 80.7 81.3 3.72350 3.31794 7.04144
Rangers (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Rangerspsoddspec.php) 25 43 .448 66.4 95.6 .01690 .01050 .02740



Still going to take a minor miracle to win the division, but we've taken a hold of the Wild Card odds.

LIYanks
09-25-07, 06:30 PM
I am rooting for either Cleveland or Boston to get the best record in AL. That's one way to avoid playing the LAA.

Mel Marquis
09-25-07, 06:46 PM
In 2003 my wife threw a chair at me after the Boone HR.



Hope it was a beanbag :)

Jetfanmack
09-25-07, 07:37 PM
Is Manny hurt? They just pinch ran for him in the 5th inning.

jeterdaman
09-25-07, 07:44 PM
Is Manny hurt? They just pinch ran for him in the 5th inning.

I think they were only giving them 3 AB's today to ease him back into playing.

Now the A's have walked the bases loaded. No one out

Mr. Smith
09-25-07, 07:44 PM
Uh oh... looks like Gaudin (A's) and Garza (Twins) are in danger of "crapping the bed" here...

rodney27nyg
09-25-07, 07:45 PM
Is Manny hurt? They just pinch ran for him in the 5th inning.

No. Precautionary replacement.

He was going to be removed after the 3rd AB anyway. Taking him off the basepath reduced his risk at that point.

teknetic
09-25-07, 07:47 PM
Gaudin is a prime example of how not being careful with young pitchers comes back to bite you in the arse. 64 innings in 2006, 187 in 2007, he was stellar in the first three months and has been wretched the last three.

rodney27nyg
09-25-07, 07:50 PM
Schilling turns very hittable at about the 80 pitchmark. He will start the 6th at 74 pitches.

Lets see what Oak can do with him.;)

bannusvdk
09-25-07, 08:32 PM
Gagne time!!!!! Silly francona for bringing him in with a lead.:D:D

jeterdaman
09-25-07, 08:51 PM
Guess Francona wants the Division. He's bringing in Papelbon for a 4 out save.

jeterdaman
09-25-07, 08:51 PM
and.......... 1 pitch and the inning is over

bannusvdk
09-25-07, 08:55 PM
Its Ruddy Lugo vs. Julio Lugo! This is like Godzilla vs. Mothra, but better.

jeterdaman
09-25-07, 08:58 PM
Its Ruddy Lugo vs. Julio Lugo! This is like Godzilla vs. Mothra, but better.

That's pretty cool. Brother vs. Brother

bannusvdk
09-25-07, 09:02 PM
Poor Ruddy. At least he's not as Skeletor-esque as his brother.

NYDCYankee
09-25-07, 09:44 PM
Anyone see what the Mets are doing?

R.V.47
09-25-07, 10:10 PM
If the yanks lose does the Seattle game still matter?

sweet_lou_14
09-25-07, 10:21 PM
If the yanks lose does the Seattle game still matter?

Meh.

The rest of the games this week are meaningless at this point ... eventually they'll win one or they'll back in. Lame, disappointing loss tonight.

rodney27nyg
09-25-07, 10:23 PM
Meh.

The rest of the games this week are meaningless at this point ... eventually they'll win one or they'll back in. Lame, disappointing loss tonight.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Lou.:(

jughead
09-25-07, 10:26 PM
Meh.

The rest of the games this week are meaningless at this point ... eventually they'll win one or they'll back in. Lame, disappointing loss tonight.Yeah, this is going to be a boring week or so. Meaningless games (no division or WC race to really care about), plus all the time off till the ALDS starts. Argh!

LuisTiant
09-25-07, 10:28 PM
3.0 in the division.

nyctalopia
09-25-07, 10:31 PM
anyone noticed how we haven't clinched yet? we're not mathematically in it yet.

spyglass
09-25-07, 10:34 PM
Meh.

The rest of the games this week are meaningless at this point ... eventually they'll win one or they'll back in. Lame, disappointing loss tonight.
I know we're still (hopefully) going to the playoffs, but to come so close to catching Boston and then not QUITE get there is really disappointing. I bought tickets to two games this weekend thinking they would be exciting... now I'm really not feeling it.

rodney27nyg
09-25-07, 10:37 PM
I wonder how many comments made here tonight...have been added to the SoSH board for their enjoyment?

jeterismyhomeboy
09-25-07, 10:58 PM
Well, if we're freaking out enough to have them enjoy it, we've got to re-evaluate. Then again, the GT is nothing but pure panic. 100% of the time, even in a 12-0 win.

At least if we're freaking out, we're doing it with a more extensive vocabulary. ;)

rodney27nyg
09-25-07, 10:59 PM
Well, if we're freaking out enough to have them enjoy it, we've got to re-evaluate. Then again, the GT is nothing but pure panic. 100% of the time, even in a 12-0 win.

At least if we're freaking out, we're doing it with more extensive vocabulary. ;)


hahaha. So true.:D

jeterismyhomeboy
09-25-07, 11:02 PM
Don't you mean: "...with A more extensive vocabulary"?????

It depends on how you take the word "vocabulary." It can be construed as a single, whole entity or various entities. I did intend to put the article "a" in the sentence, however, and will correct that particular gaffe shortly.

yankeesAZ
09-26-07, 01:14 AM
M's officially eliminated from the playoffs tonight as Cleveland wins in 12 innings 4-3.

-tz
09-26-07, 02:05 AM
M's officially eliminated from the playoffs tonight as Cleveland wins in 12 innings 4-3.Well, there was ONE good thing that happened today, at least.

26 and counting
09-26-07, 08:31 AM
M's officially eliminated from the playoffs tonight as Cleveland wins in 12 innings 4-3.

Steve Phillips is very upset about this.

nemo
09-26-07, 08:36 AM
Steve Phillips is very upset about this.

No he's not! He's rooting for the Yanks to win the WS! LOL :D

jlam
09-26-07, 05:36 PM
Boston just went up 5-4 and still batting. Manny looks like he hasn't missed a beat.

Gringaloca
09-26-07, 05:43 PM
Mike Piazza ties it up with a dinger ovah the Monsta...:D

5-5 all.

jeterismyhomeboy
09-26-07, 05:43 PM
Honestly, if Texas can beat the snot out of the Angels, the Yanks shouldn't worry about them. I mean, the Yanks are an all-around better team than Texas. Or maybe the Angels aren't trying?

Whatever. They're facing Cleveland anyway. Hopefully all those wishes to face Sabathia and Carmona twice in a short series (!) don't come back and bite the Yanks on the behind. Seriously. Who wants to face two Cy Young contenders back-to-back for four games when they have HF?

nemo
09-26-07, 05:55 PM
Honestly, if Texas can beat the snot out of the Angels, the Yanks shouldn't worry about them. I mean, the Yanks are an all-around better team than Texas. Or maybe the Angels aren't trying?

Well, by that logic you could also say that because TB has been beating the Yankees, they should be beating all the teams worse than the Yanks (which would put the D-Rays near 1st place)

26 and counting
09-26-07, 06:36 PM
Blue Jays 8
Orioles 0

1st inning.

Not that it matters, but it's just kind of funny.

bostonyankeefan
09-26-07, 06:39 PM
Blue Jays 8
Orioles 0

1st inning.

Not that it matters, but it's just kind of funny.

I'll feel sorry for Baltimore when the score gets to 88-0.

keg411
09-26-07, 06:46 PM
WTF Johan??? I hope he just loaded the bases with no outs for fun.

Mark19
09-26-07, 06:54 PM
Another gutless performance against the Tigers for Johan. How does this guy win so many awards?

26 and counting
09-26-07, 07:02 PM
Another gutless performance against the Tigers for Johan. How does this guy win so many awards?

Because he's pitched awesome in the past?:confused:

Mark19
09-26-07, 07:04 PM
Because he's pitched awesome in the past?:confused:

His numbers are great but it seems like he gets smacked around by whoever we need him to beat. Tough luck for us.

881
09-26-07, 07:13 PM
Rain Delay in Detroit after completion of 3rd inning (4-3 Twins)

THEBOSS84
09-26-07, 07:17 PM
His numbers are great but it seems like he gets smacked around by whoever we need him to beat. Tough luck for us.

The Twins would be smart to trade him this offseason in case his value drops at all next season. His numbers look good but somehow he has 13 losses - hard to understand.

spyglass
09-26-07, 08:02 PM
Blue Jays 8
Orioles 0

1st inning.

Not that it matters, but it's just kind of funny.
I hope this happens again this weekend.



At least on Friday and Sunday when I'll be there, that is.

spyglass
09-26-07, 08:07 PM
Just for fun, the Nats just took the lead against the Mets, 7-6 on a Wily Mo 2 run double. Top of the 5th.

26 and counting
09-26-07, 08:09 PM
Mets fans must be having a heart attack right about now. And the Phillies are up 5-2 in the 7th. It could be a one game Mets lead after tonight.

Kluivert4Ever
09-26-07, 08:10 PM
Since I cant post in the Yankee GT I might as well join here:)

Would be great to see the Mets lead go down to one, that would insert some serious panic.

rodney27nyg
09-26-07, 08:23 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here....and predict the Yankees clinch a playoff berth tonight.:D

Subject to change.:(

R.V.47
09-26-07, 08:31 PM
Since I cant post in the Yankee GT I might as well join here:)

Would be great to see the Mets lead go down to one, that would insert some serious panic.

I also cannot post in the GT for the rest of the week. However, its nice to see that the yankes are leaving nothing to chance tonight. Mets have issues.

-tz
09-26-07, 08:38 PM
Since I cant post in the Yankee GT I might as well join here:)

Would be great to see the Mets lead go down to one, that would insert some serious panic.I was just wondering if you got suspended from the GT ... hope it's not for long! :o

yankeesAZ
09-26-07, 09:02 PM
Steve Phillips is very upset about this.

I would love a collection of clips out together on Youtube or something with how many times he said they would win the wild card, especially the ones right before the M's came to NY.

NYDCYankee
09-27-07, 12:17 AM
Last night I found myself not only watching the Yankee-Sox game but following several other games as well, DET-CLE, LAA-BAL...

Unlike past years where only what the Red Sox were doing grabbed our attention, pretty much every game in the AL has some bearing on how the Yankees do in the standings.

Last night Cleveland beat Detroit again thankfully and with the Yankees win that puts them at 6.0 out. But so did, Toronto, Baltimore, Seattle and Oakland.

Now I am not conceding the division and hopefully this thread can turn into a "Watching the Scoreboard" for the AL East thread, but I thought this thread could be useful to keep track of things, while the other games are going on.

Wild Card standings

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp

Regular standings

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp

At the moment the White Sox are beating the Jays 3-1.


I started this thread quite a while ago and many people scoffed as I started this thread when the Yankees were so far ahead, and now months later, the Yankees pulled it off.

This thread is finished. Lock it up boys. And smile.

Jace
09-27-07, 12:22 AM
I would love a collection of clips out together on Youtube or something with how many times he said they would win the wild card, especially the ones right before the M's came to NY.

That wouldn't even do it justice considering the number of times he trotted that tired lame prediction on the radio and freaking espn broadcasts of Yankee games (when Orel Hershiser would laugh at him on the air, which was possibly my favorite broadcaster moment of the year)

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 12:24 AM
I was glad to be a part of this thread (obviously, as I had nearly 600 posts in it).

The real season begins soon.

BxBomber44
09-27-07, 12:28 AM
Magic in the clubhouse. Joe knows it... I'll play whoever

spyglass
09-27-07, 12:28 AM
I started this thread quite a while ago and many people scoffed as I started this thread when the Yankees were so far ahead, and now months later, the Yankees pulled it off.

This thread is finished. Lock it up boys. And smile.
Oooh! Don't lock it up yet. We've got a few more days of scoreboard watching left in us for the regular season, no? None of the NL teams have clinched yet, among other things :P


Plus, I am rather fond of this thread. It's been a fun ride (albeit a long and bumpy one), and I'm glad I had the rest of you to share it with.

rodney27nyg
09-27-07, 12:39 AM
Oooh! Don't lock it up yet. We've got a few more days of scoreboard watching left in us for the regular season, no? None of the NL teams have clinched yet, among other things :P


Plus, I am rather fond of this thread. It's been a fun ride (albeit a long and bumpy one), and I'm glad I had the rest of you to share it with.

I agree. We are not mathmatically eliminated from both the East Division title and/or the best record in the league yet.

To lock it up would concede both.;)

jeterdaman
09-27-07, 10:45 AM
We should start a "Watching the Scoreboard - Playoff Edition" :)

NewEraYanks2527
09-27-07, 10:54 AM
I enjoyed that went Sheff to Detroit and now we eliminated Detroit from postseason play. That just makes me feel good inside.

effdamets
09-27-07, 11:08 AM
Is it not possible for the Sox to lose 3 of their next 4 and the Yanks to win 3 of their next 4? :)

bostonyankeefan
09-27-07, 12:18 PM
Is it not possible for the Sox to lose 3 of their next 4 and the Yanks to win 3 of their next 4? :)

Possible, but not likely. Minn. has nothing to play for.

I have enjoyed this thread and would like to see it kept open until the regular season ends. We can continue to discuss various "what if" scenarioes as the playoff picture unfolds.

We can also revel in the demise of the Mets...

Clemens831
09-27-07, 01:24 PM
If the Sox end up with the best overall record in the league (they're now tied with Cleveland, and crushed the Indians head-to-head this year)...do they pick the longer division series schedule?

You have to believe that they'd want to give Schilling, Matsuzaka and Wakefield as much rest as possible, right? I dont think they'd pick the short schedule just to throw off the Yankees if it would hurt their own chances.

So, that being said...and knowing that, if we have the choice, we'd rather NOT face Sabathia and Carmona twice...do we now actually cheer for the Red Sox to win the rest of the schedule so that the Indians and Yanks end up, presumably, with the shorter schedule?

roblyo33
09-27-07, 01:27 PM
If the Sox end up with the best overall record in the league (they're now tied with Cleveland, and crushed the Indians head-to-head this year)...do they pick the longer division series schedule?

You have to believe that they'd want to give Schilling, Matsuzaka and Wakefield as much rest as possible, right? I dont think they'd pick the short schedule just to throw off the Yankees if it would hurt their own chances.

So, that being said...and knowing that, if we have the choice, we'd rather NOT face Sabathia and Carmona twice...do we now actually cheer for the Red Sox to win the rest of the schedule so that the Indians and Yanks end up, presumably, with the shorter schedule?

I can't bring myself to cheering for the Red Sux...........for ANY reason.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 01:34 PM
We should start a "Watching the Scoreboard - Playoff Edition" :)

The only scoreboard that matters in the postseason is the Yankees' scoreboard, all the rest are meaningless.

DkNNy79
09-27-07, 01:38 PM
If the Sox end up with the best overall record in the league (they're now tied with Cleveland, and crushed the Indians head-to-head this year)...do they pick the longer division series schedule?

You have to believe that they'd want to give Schilling, Matsuzaka and Wakefield as much rest as possible, right? I dont think they'd pick the short schedule just to throw off the Yankees if it would hurt their own chances.

So, that being said...and knowing that, if we have the choice, we'd rather NOT face Sabathia and Carmona twice...do we now actually cheer for the Red Sox to win the rest of the schedule so that the Indians and Yanks end up, presumably, with the shorter schedule?

I heard on the Michael Kay show that Boston would opt for the shorter series, because they are throwing 3 starters vs Clevelands 2.

OldYankeeFan
09-27-07, 02:11 PM
Possible, but not likely. Minn. has nothing to play for.

I have enjoyed this thread and would like to see it kept open until the regular season ends. We can continue to discuss various "what if" scenarioes as the playoff picture unfolds.

We can also revel in the demise of the Mets...

Quote from a paniced mets fan I thought was pretty funny

"if they blow this......send these choking dogs to Mike Vick's camp for pooches." -

Octoberbaby
09-27-07, 03:06 PM
Quote from a paniced mets fan I thought was pretty funny

"if they blow this......send these choking dogs to Mike Vick's camp for pooches." -

I loved the crushed look on Kelly Ripa's face this morning when Regis announced that the Yankees have won their 13th admission to the post season! She who was sooooo smug the first half of the season.

roblyo33
09-27-07, 03:07 PM
I loved the crushed look on Kelly Ripa's face this morning when Regis announced that the Yankees have won their 13th admission to the post season! She who was sooooo smug the first half of the season.

Are those two still on TV??? :P

DCfan
09-27-07, 03:09 PM
Is it not possible for the Sox to lose 3 of their next 4 and the Yanks to win 3 of their next 4? :)
I could see that happen, easily.

Unfortunately, however, that's only a 2-game gain, which wouldn't be enough. The Yanks would need to run the table if the Sox win a game. It could still happen --- anything can happen in any four-game stretch --- but I have the sneaking suspicion that both the Sox and the Yanks are shifting completely into playoff mode and aren't worrying about the last four games.

DCfan
09-27-07, 03:12 PM
If the Sox end up with the best overall record in the league (they're now tied with Cleveland, and crushed the Indians head-to-head this year)...do they pick the longer division series schedule?

You have to believe that they'd want to give Schilling, Matsuzaka and Wakefield as much rest as possible, right? I dont think they'd pick the short schedule just to throw off the Yankees if it would hurt their own chances.

So, that being said...and knowing that, if we have the choice, we'd rather NOT face Sabathia and Carmona twice...do we now actually cheer for the Red Sox to win the rest of the schedule so that the Indians and Yanks end up, presumably, with the shorter schedule?
It would be shocking if the Red Sox opted for the longer schedule. They have a clear #1 and no clear #2, so from their perspective, it's all about getting two starts for Beckett (which happens either way). They would probably want to get into the depth of their opponent's rotation.

jeterdaman
09-27-07, 03:13 PM
I could see that happen, easily.

Unfortunately, however, that's only a 2-game gain, which wouldn't be enough. The Yanks would need to run the table if the Sox win a game. It could still happen --- anything can happen in any four-game stretch --- but I have the sneaking suspicion that both the Sox and the Yanks are shifting completely into playoff mode and aren't worrying about the last four games.

No, they would end in a tie and the tiebreaker goes to the Yankees because of our 10-8 advantage this year

DCfan
09-27-07, 03:18 PM
No, they would end in a tie and the tiebreaker goes to the Yankees because of our 10-8 advantage this year
The Yankees are three behind. If they go 3-1 this weekend and Boston goes 1-3, the Yankees gain two games and end up one behind.

(Put differently, the Sox win the division with any combination of two Sox wins or Yankee losses).

jeterdaman
09-27-07, 03:22 PM
The Yankees are three behind. If they go 3-1 this weekend and Boston goes 1-3, the Yankees gain two games and end up one behind.

(Put differently, the Sox win the division with any combination of two Sox wins or Yankee losses).

You're right. I must have read it wrong. In my head I thought it said that the Yankees would win out and the Sox would go 1-3.

blumj
09-27-07, 03:49 PM
It would be shocking if the Red Sox opted for the longer schedule. They have a clear #1 and no clear #2, so from their perspective, it's all about getting two starts for Beckett (which happens either way). They would probably want to get into the depth of their opponent's rotation.
According to Gammons, the Red Sox don't really care, while the Angels and Indians both really want the longer schedule. He said the Sox don't mind using Beckett on 3 days rest, can use Papelbon every game with either schedule, and, as you said, aren't sure who their #2 will be, although he said they might decide to start Schilling at home and Matsuzaka on the road.

Octoberbaby
09-27-07, 05:52 PM
Are those two still on TV??? :P

Yes, and she is still a Mets fan. :)

Messerwhitescooter
09-27-07, 06:26 PM
Philadelphia's four runs in the first inning has to be putting a dagger into any Mets looking at the scoreboard. Pedro is pitching.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 06:37 PM
No wonder the Twins are having a bad year. They do so many things fundamentally wrong.

The Phils are looking scary to NL playoff contenders right now, I bet. It seems like they're winning every night.

Seth
09-27-07, 06:58 PM
Phils lead 6-0, bottom 3rd.
Cards lead Mets 3-0, bottom 3rd.

Gringaloca
09-27-07, 07:08 PM
Minny up 3-2 on RSox...Beckett getting tagged tonight..:D

PC @ 57..still in the 3rd...

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 07:19 PM
Looks like the NL East is headed for a dead heat.

bostonyankeefan
09-27-07, 07:33 PM
Looks like the NL East is headed for a dead heat.

The word dead certainly describes one of the teams in that division. Pedro getting lit up tonight could be the final straw.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 07:52 PM
The word dead certainly describes one of the teams in that division. Pedro getting lit up tonight could be the final straw.What's more telling I think is that they're getting 3-hit by Joel Piniero. Pedro wasn't really getting lit up per se, but he was the lesser pitcher tonight.

Cheesyhoboe
09-27-07, 08:42 PM
And the Phillies win.

Metdown complete.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:06 PM
Boston will have all of their big guns in the 9th (minus Manny who was lifted), so I'd be surprised if the Twins held on, but it's now assured that the Sox won't clinch tonight.

Edit 1: Yep, looks like it. Walk off probably forthcoming.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:10 PM
Ortiz up with runner on 2nd, no outs.
ballgame.

kirbivore
09-27-07, 09:10 PM
here we go...Nathan is going to blow it. Gives up leadoff double to Brandon Moss, now sloppa is up.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:12 PM
You could do worse than walking Ortiz to set up a few forces.

frostdude1
09-27-07, 09:12 PM
Twins blow

teknetic
09-27-07, 09:13 PM
No wonder the Twins are having a bad year. They do so many things fundamentally wrong.

The Phils are looking scary to NL playoff contenders right now, I bet. It seems like they're winning every night.

The big three in that lineup are terrific, the pitching though..not so much

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:14 PM
These guys are playing like it's the end of the world.. But I though Francona and Theo said the division was meaningless?

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:14 PM
Now a base hit wins it. Gardenhire should IBB whomever's next.

Edit: he is.

dave8274
09-27-07, 09:14 PM
I loved the crushed look on Kelly Ripa's face this morning when Regis announced that the Yankees have won their 13th admission to the post season! She who was sooooo smug the first half of the season.

You watch that?

Spiker101
09-27-07, 09:15 PM
These guys are playing like it's the end of the world.. But I though Francona and Theo said the division was meaningless?

Yeah, you can tell how meaningless it was to them by how much time off they gave David Ortiz and his bad knee.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:18 PM
Nathan is playing with fire.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:19 PM
The big C at bat and the squirrel muncher on deck. It's starting to rain and from the looks of the idiots in the stands, this is probably the first water to hit some of their bodies in a while.

nhyankeefan
09-27-07, 09:19 PM
Varitek strikes out, two down.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:19 PM
Varitek K's. Huge strikeout.

Now the Sox must have a hit.

It'll be Youkilis up now.

frostdude1
09-27-07, 09:20 PM
haha C goes down

1 more

SheffRocks11
09-27-07, 09:20 PM
varitek K's!

teknetic
09-27-07, 09:20 PM
That "C" on that chest is slowly beginning to fade away :lol:

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:21 PM
I think Youk gets it done..

Messerwhitescooter
09-27-07, 09:21 PM
Varitek K's. Huge strikeout.

Now the Sox must have a hit.

It'll be Youkilis up now.

A hit, or a walk, or an error.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:21 PM
Sox lose! Magic number holds at 2.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:21 PM
ballgame. Sox lose..

teknetic
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
Game!

SheffRocks11
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
2 games back. It ain't over yet folks. :)

frostdude1
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
ahahahaha yarmukeles K's :lol:

Panic in boston again

nhyankeefan
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
Youkilis k's to end the game. The magic number is still stuck on two.

themgmt
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
Youkilis K's on three pitches. game over

kirbivore
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
sit down youk

yankeezombie
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
Red Sox lose.

Gringaloca
09-27-07, 09:22 PM
It was pouring rain in the bottom of the 8th...should have 'delayed/called the game' then...

Varitek K's..2 down.Up to "pukelis' to save the game...

AND HE K's....leaving the tying run 90 feet away...:eek: :D :D

-tz
09-27-07, 09:24 PM
Nice! So it'll go down (almost) to the wire ...

bannusvdk
09-27-07, 09:24 PM
WEEI is flipping out.

"Joe Nathan. What a pain in the a**."

"Two games out. Yep, its tight."

:D:D

Even if we don't even come close to taking the division, its fun to hear them panic. Again.

iWant27
09-27-07, 09:24 PM
The big C at bat and the squirrel muncher on deck. It's starting to rain and from the looks of the idiots in the stands, this is probably the first water to hit some of their bodies in a while.


:lol: :lol: thats funny .

Messerwhitescooter
09-27-07, 09:24 PM
Use-a-less strikes out.

Panamaniac42
09-27-07, 09:25 PM
If nothing else I like seeing them sweat a little longer. Also good to see the cheering efforts of those paying drunks go all for naught.

Come on Twinkies, sweep their asses.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:25 PM
I'm not sure I would care about Boston losing this much if I didn't live in NH. But since these meatheads up here like flapping their gums, I enjoy this more than I probably should.

themgmt
09-27-07, 09:26 PM
It would be cool if Boston wins 0-1 games and the Yanks sweep the O's. And if Jeff Karstens wasn't on the mound on Tuesday

Messerwhitescooter
09-27-07, 09:28 PM
What an absolutely awesome night of baseball. The Mets, Phillies, Red Sox and Yankees games were all incredible. Are the Yankees two out now for the division?

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:28 PM
What an absolutely awesome night of baseball. The Mets, Phillies, Red Sox and Yankees games were all incredible. Are the Yankees two out now for the division?
Yes sir.

It ain't over until the magic number's 0.

Panamaniac42
09-27-07, 09:29 PM
It would be cool if Boston wins 0-1 games and the Yanks sweep the O's. And if Jeff Karstens wasn't on the mound on Tuesday


Yeah that sucked...but there are so many games this year we could look back at and feel nauseous about.

YanksFan1992
09-27-07, 09:30 PM
Red Sox lose!!!:D

E-Rod
09-27-07, 09:32 PM
The Best thing is that we won with the young players and they lost with the old guys :D

Octoberbaby
09-27-07, 09:40 PM
You watch that?

Yes, I am of the feminine persuasion so I watch those kinds of shows. :)

Octoberbaby
09-27-07, 09:41 PM
Watched the end of the Red Sox game. My good mood after the Yankee win continued. Now if the baseball Gods (and our players) can keep it going.

R.V.47
09-27-07, 09:47 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for.

cupcollector99
09-27-07, 09:49 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: The guys on NESN are blasting the NL teams. The term "medicore" keeps coming up.

JeterForPresident
09-27-07, 09:49 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for.

Boston tanking on purpose perhaps?? lol I'm happy with playing the Indians, even though in the playoffs, no team is a cakewalk. Not having to fly to and from LA doesn't hurt either.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 09:51 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for. If they want to be the best, they've got to beat the best, so if the only thing standing between them and a date with the Sox is getting the rally monkey off their back, so be it.

Honestly, I think Cleveland could have a bit of the Detroit factor going for them this year (couldn't touch the Yanks in the regular season, surprise them in the post) so I'm somewhat neutral.

themgmt
09-27-07, 09:57 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for.

Just so you know, we have the same record as the Angels. If we take the Division the angels would likely be on their way to NY. Also, a one way trip?:eek:

R.V.47
09-27-07, 09:58 PM
Just so you know, we have the same record as the Angels. If we take the Division the angels would likely be on their way to NY. Also, a one way trip?:eek:

If we finished with the same record wouldnt they still have home field because they won the season series?

roblyo33
09-27-07, 10:00 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for.

So be it.

THEBOSS84
09-27-07, 10:00 PM
I am still rooting for the Sox to finish with the best record in the league. We KNOW that the Indians would choose the long series which would enable them to start CC and Carmona twice each. We don't know what the Sox would choose yet. The Sox would help us greatly by taking the long series, which would allow for them to avoid using Wakefield who has been horrendous in September.

themgmt
09-27-07, 10:03 PM
If we finished with the same record wouldnt they still have home field because they won the season series?

The Angels are limping/resting. If we win the division, that means we swept the O's. I don't think the Angels are going to sweep the A's although i won't rule it out completely. If we win the division, i'd say it's 75% we finish with a better record than LAAA, that's why I say they'd likely be flying to NY

Gringaloca
09-27-07, 10:07 PM
Just so you guys know winning the division could put us on a one way trip to Anaheim. Be careful what you wish for.


My choice? Take the Division (twist the knife in Beantown):D and THEN beat the 'boogeyman Angels' that have haunted us.
Everybody & their 'second cousin' counted us out early this year. What better satisfaction than advancing to the ALCS thru Anaheim?

btw..Cleveland WILL have the RSox for lunch:)

Toaderly
09-27-07, 10:13 PM
Watched the end of the Red Sox game. My good mood after the Yankee win continued. Now if the baseball Gods (and our players) can keep it going.

I yelled louder when Youkilis struck out tonight than I did when Robbie caught the game-ending out last night. My wife thinks I'm nuts.

theDurk
09-27-07, 10:14 PM
If we finished with the same record wouldnt they still have home field because they won the season series?

Yes--unless Cleveland tanked, too--then a 3-way tie (NYY,CLE, &LAA) or 4-way tie; we tiebreak ourselves into the #1 seed, and then it's Cleveland coming to us. If we tie just Cleveland, or Cleveland & Boston, with LAA behind, then the Angels come to us. All of these could still happen.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 10:17 PM
Colorado is on their way to 11 in a row. They could be a tough out if they get into the playoffs.

Messerwhitescooter
09-27-07, 10:27 PM
Colorado is on their way to 11 in a row. They could be a tough out if they get into the playoffs.
the Yankees would be so motivated to get revenge from them after what they did in June.

theDurk
09-27-07, 10:39 PM
Colorado is on their way to 11 in a row. They could be a tough out if they get into the playoffs.

They have a shot--win tonight and 2 out of 3 or better head to head against Arizona, and San Diego has to lose their series, too, if Colorado doesn't sweep. If they lose tonight, they HAVE to sweep, AND San Diego has to lose their series. Big game for them tonight....

The Zankees
09-27-07, 10:40 PM
the Yankees would be so motivated to get revenge from them after what they did in June.

The 2007 NY Mets are on the verge of the WORST regular season collapse ever

LuisTiant
09-27-07, 10:40 PM
This team can still get home field throughout.

(1) Seattle holds on tonight.
(2) Sweep BAL.
(3) BOS loses 2 of 3 this weekend to MIN.
(4) CLE loses 2 of 3 this weekend to KC.

Yanks win the division and all three teams end at 95-67.
Yanks won both season series.
Yanks get home field.

hellonewman
09-27-07, 10:43 PM
I am still rooting for the Sox to finish with the best record in the league. We KNOW that the Indians would choose the long series which would enable them to start CC and Carmona twice each. We don't know what the Sox would choose yet. The Sox would help us greatly by taking the long series, which would allow for them to avoid using Wakefield who has been horrendous in September.FWIW, Kay said last night the Sox have decided they'd take the long series, although they haaven't announced it yet. How he thinks he knows this, he didn't say. :dunno:

jughead
09-27-07, 10:43 PM
The 2007 NY Mets are on the verge of the WORST regular season collapse ever
But I thought for the last 3 years they've been "New York's Team"* :confused:

*Promo only valid in the month of May at select Queens locations only. Void where prohibited

THEBOSS84
09-27-07, 10:44 PM
FWIW, Kay said last night the Sox have decided they'd take the long series, although they haaven't announced it yet. How he thinks he knows this, he didn't say. :dunno:

Ok so like I said - let's go Sox! for best record in the league.

frostdude1
09-27-07, 10:50 PM
so we should be rooting for the red sox to get a better record than the Indians ?

roblyo33
09-27-07, 10:52 PM
I yelled louder when Youkilis struck out tonight than I did when Robbie caught the game-ending out last night. My wife thinks I'm nuts.

You are nuts but, I did the same thing..............I hate Youkilis just a little more than Pedroia

LuisTiant
09-27-07, 10:52 PM
so we should be rooting for the red sox to get a better record than the Indians ?

No, if I'm right, I think we want all three to finish 95-67.

THEBOSS84
09-27-07, 10:52 PM
so we should be rooting for the red sox to get a better record than the Indians ?

Or if they tie for the same record the Sox win best record due to head to head. This way the Indians will start Byrd AND Westbrook in the series vs. us...IF the Sox choose the long series to avoid using Wake

THEBOSS84
09-27-07, 10:53 PM
No, if I'm right, I think we want all three to finish 95-67.

That is very unlikely, so in the meantime root for the Soxto finish with the best record.

frostdude1
09-27-07, 10:53 PM
oh ok thanks

The Zankees
09-27-07, 10:58 PM
no way in hell I am rooting for the red sox under any circumstances. We win out. They lose. We reclaim our rightful place atop the American League

spyglass
09-27-07, 10:59 PM
If they want to be the best, they've got to beat the best, so if the only thing standing between them and a date with the Sox is getting the rally monkey off their back, so be it.

Honestly, I think Cleveland could have a bit of the Detroit factor going for them this year (couldn't touch the Yanks in the regular season, surprise them in the post) so I'm somewhat neutral.
I'm in complete agreement. I think the plan should be to give the regulars the rest they need/deserve, but see what happens in each game and not worry about who we're going to match up with in round 1. I don't think there's any clear favorite for any team in the AL, so I'm just going to hope that we play our best and are up for the competition.

I learned my lesson rooting so hard for us to draw Detroit last year.

THEBOSS84
09-27-07, 11:01 PM
no way in hell I am rooting for the red sox under any circumstances. We win out. They lose. We reclaim our rightful place atop the American League

Ok so you can root for the Sox to lose while I root for the Indians to lose. We do well if both teams lose.

theDurk
09-27-07, 11:01 PM
This team can still get home field throughout.

(1) Seattle holds on tonight.
(2) Sweep BAL.
(3) BOS loses 2 of 3 this weekend to MIN.
(4) CLE loses 2 of 3 this weekend to KC.

Yanks win the division and all three teams end at 95-67.
Yanks won both season series.
Yanks get home field.

But then we play the Angels (unless the Angels also sweep). I like playing Cleveland, even without HFA, just because that coast-to-coast stuff seems so hard on our team, HFA or not. [There is no HFA in the 5-game unless you sweep the first two at home; a split means you have 2 of 3 without HFA]. I'd rather Boston and LA kill themselves doing coast-to-coast. Be careful what you wish for. But I'll take it if you add 5) LAA sweeps OAK (not asking for much:), are we? )

TheInfallibleOne
09-27-07, 11:22 PM
Curious about the NL East. The Mets are using Perez, Maine and Glavine in the last 3, opting not to take a chance on the recovering El Duque despite his being one of the best big game pitchers ever in NY. They Face Byung Hyun Kim, Seddon, and D-Train.
The Phillies face the Nationals using Hamels, Hanrahan and Moyer. I can only hope they are smart enough to use Myers in game 2 and take their chances on not needing a closer, or if anything go to Gordon to get the last 3 outs. The Nationals counter with Redding, Chico and Bergman, their 3 best.

Any thoughts?

hellonewman
09-27-07, 11:41 PM
Curious about the NL East. The Mets are using Perez, Maine and Glavine in the last 3, opting not to take a chance on the recovering El Duque despite his being one of the best big game pitchers ever in NY. They Face Byung Hyun Kim, Seddon, and D-Train.
The Phillies face the Nationals using Hamels, Hanrahan and Moyer. I can only hope they are smart enough to use Myers in game 2 and take their chances on not needing a closer, or if anything go to Gordon to get the last 3 outs. The Nationals counter with Redding, Chico and Bergman, their 3 best.

Any thoughts?A few:

- Hanrahan is on the Nationals, not the Phillies. Eaton maybe? :barf:

- It's too late to stretch out Myers. He's the closer, at least for the rest of this season.

- Although I don't trust the Phillies pitching as far as I can kick them, I think the young Nationals pitchers could have an even worse go of it this weekend. They were barely good enough to beat the Mets, and that was in Shea Stadium, where a pitcher can stretch his legs. In that claustrophobic bandbox in Philly, the Nats pitchers could get bat-shy in a hurry.

- I have no idea what to expect from Mets/Marlins. I keep expecting the Mets to snap out of it, but they keep delighting me by continuing to stink. Perez/Kim looks like a good matchup for the Mets, though.

BonusCantos
09-27-07, 11:52 PM
Here's a fact about how much more wide open the NL is down the stretch:

All 4 playoff teams (but not all seedings) have been set in the AL.

0 NL teams have clinched a playoff berth. The Cubs will probably be the first.

TheInfallibleOne
09-28-07, 12:05 AM
A few:

- Hanrahan is on the Nationals, not the Phillies. Eaton maybe? :barf:

- It's too late to stretch out Myers. He's the closer, at least for the rest of this season.



Ah my mistake, thanks for the correction.

I still think that in desperation, Myers is the way to go. Whatever you get out of him has to be better than what you may get out of Eaton or Kyle Lohse. And at that point maybe you forego your best closer in the hopes that your offense will score so many runs that evn Tom Gordon couldnt blow it in one inning. And with Myers holding the opposition to 2 or less through 6~7, you pull out all the stops with the bullpen to get the last 6~9 outs.

rodney27nyg
09-28-07, 12:06 AM
That is very unlikely, so in the meantime root for the Soxto finish with the best record.


Just can't do that.:(

rodney27nyg
09-28-07, 12:07 AM
I'm in complete agreement. I think the plan should be to give the regulars the rest they need/deserve, but see what happens in each game and not worry about who we're going to match up with in round 1. I don't think there's any clear favorite for any team in the AL, so I'm just going to hope that we play our best and are up for the competition.

I learned my lesson rooting so hard for us to draw Detroit last year.

Great post, Spy.;)

BonusCantos
09-28-07, 12:08 AM
The races (assumes a COL win):

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">AL EAST</td><td width="6%">W (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=wins&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=1&st=2)</td><td width="6%">L (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=losses&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=1&st=2)</td><td width="8%">PCT (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=winPercent&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=1&st=2)</td><td width="5%">GB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=gamesBehind&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=1&st=2)</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>STRK (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=streak&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=1&st=2)</td><td>
</td></tr><!--seasonType=2--> <!--startDate=20070927--> <!--StartDate is currentDate--><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">z-Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)</td><td>94</td><td>65</td><td>.591</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Lost 1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">z-NY Yankees (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)</td><td>92</td><td>67</td><td>.579</td><td width="5%">2</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 2</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Ain't over yet.

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">NL WEST</td><td width="6%">W (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=wins&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=6&st=2)</td><td width="6%">L (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=losses&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=6&st=2)</td><td width="8%">PCT (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=winPercent&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=6&st=2)</td><td width="5%">GB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=gamesBehind&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=6&st=2)</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>STRK (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=streak&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=6&st=2)</td><td>
</td></tr><!--seasonType=2--> <!--startDate=20070927--> <!--StartDate is currentDate--><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">Arizona (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=ari)</td><td>89</td><td>70</td><td>.560</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 1</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">San Diego (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)</td><td>88</td><td>71</td><td>.553</td><td width="5%">1</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 3</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">Colorado (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">2</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 11</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Fight to the finish in the NL West.

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">NL CENTRAL</td><td width="6%">W (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=wins&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=5&st=2)</td><td width="6%">L (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=losses&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=5&st=2)</td><td width="8%">PCT (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=winPercent&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=5&st=2)</td><td width="5%">GB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=gamesBehind&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=5&st=2)</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>STRK (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=streak&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=5&st=2)</td><td>
</td></tr><!--seasonType=2--> <!--startDate=20070927--> <!--StartDate is currentDate--><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">Chicago Cubs (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)</td><td>83</td><td>76</td><td>.522</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Lost 3</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">Milwaukee (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=mil)</td><td>81</td><td>78</td><td>.509</td><td width="5%">2</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Lost 2</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
The Cubs are backing in, but in nevertheless.

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">NL EAST</td><td width="6%">W (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=wins&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=4&st=2)</td><td width="6%">L (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=losses&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=4&st=2)</td><td width="8%">PCT (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=winPercent&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=4&st=2)</td><td width="5%">GB (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=gamesBehind&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=4&st=2)</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>STRK (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings?date=20070927&column=streak&year=2007&order=true&br=3&type=reg&group=4&st=2)</td><td>
</td></tr><!--seasonType=2--> <!--startDate=20070927--> <!--StartDate is currentDate--><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">NY Mets (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Lost 4</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">Philadelphia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 2</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
The Phils have all the momentum right now. A Monday playoff would be intense.

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">NL WC
</td><td width="6%">W</td><td width="6%">L</td><td>Pct</td><td>GB</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>STRK</td><td>
</td></tr><!--seasonType=2--> <!--startDate=20070927--> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">San Diego (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)</td><td>88</td><td>71</td><td>.553</td><td width="5%">-</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 3</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">NY Mets* (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">1</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Lost 4</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">Philadelphia* (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">1</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 2</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">Colorado (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)</td><td>87</td><td>72</td><td>.547</td><td width="5%">1</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td width="5%">
</td><td>Won 11</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Wow.

TheInfallibleOne
09-28-07, 12:16 AM
Just to screw with Mets fans:
NL E NYM
NL C CHC
NL W ARI
NL WC PHI

Assuming the Phils and Mets advance, they still get smacked by philly. Ahh I do live for this...

ymike673
09-28-07, 12:20 AM
Just to screw with Mets fans:
NL E NYM
NL C CHC
NL W ARI
NL WC PHI

Assuming the Phils and Mets advance, they still get smacked by philly. Ahh I do live for this...

I'd rather see:

NL E PHIL
NL C CHC
NL W ARI
NL WC SD

Mets: Home watching it all on TV!

metalyank
09-28-07, 12:24 AM
Colorado's gone bonkers, about to win 11 in a row.

And to those suggesting to root for the Sox, go bang your head on the wall a few times to clear the cobwebs.

elsupremo2
09-28-07, 07:29 AM
Colorado's gone bonkers, about to win 11 in a row.

And to those suggesting to root for the Sox, go bang your head on the wall a few times to clear the cobwebs.

In case that doesn't work, go have it examined by a professional. I can't root for the Sox unless they are playing the Taliban.

LouisianaLightning49
09-28-07, 08:21 AM
In case that doesn't work, go have it examined by a professional. I can't root for the Sox unless they are playing the Taliban.

Ha. And even then, it would be a tough call to make. What's this rooting for Boston business? :eek:

Who cares who the Yanks play in the playoffs? We do have the best team RIGHT??? Therefore, it shouldn't matter who they play. I want the division, I want the best record, I want home field, I want Boston to get swept by Minnesota by a combined score of 46-4, I want them to be swept out of the playoffs after 3 glorious days... oh, and I want them to go 0-162 next year.

And of course, I want to win the damn World Series. The countdown to 11 wins starts on Wednesday.

LouisianaLightning49
09-28-07, 09:05 AM
This is bad. This reminds me of the 2003 ALCS when Boston had their grounds crew paint the World Series logo on the Fenway field prior to game 7.

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4102502dt.jpg

But I sure do hope I get to wear that around Boston next week.

NavyTim
09-28-07, 09:08 AM
Ha. And even then, it would be a tough call to make. What's this rooting for Boston business? :eek:

Who cares who the Yanks play in the playoffs? We do have the best team RIGHT??? Therefore, it shouldn't matter who they play. I want the division, I want the best record, I want home field, I want Boston to get swept by Minnesota by a combined score of 46-4, I want them to be swept out of the playoffs after 3 glorious days... oh, and I want them to go 0-162 next year.

And of course, I want to win the damn World Series. The countdown to 11 wins starts on Wednesday.

Now THAT - is why we fans can say "I love this game". Your heart shows, nice.

NYKforever
09-28-07, 09:13 AM
Ha. And even then, it would be a tough call to make. What's this rooting for Boston business? :eek:

Who cares who the Yanks play in the playoffs? We do have the best team RIGHT??? Therefore, it shouldn't matter who they play. I want the division, I want the best record, I want home field, I want Boston to get swept by Minnesota by a combined score of 46-4, I want them to be swept out of the playoffs after 3 glorious days... oh, and I want them to go 0-162 next year.

And of course, I want to win the damn World Series. The countdown to 11 wins starts on Wednesday.


WHOA WHOA WHOA.....you want Boston to score 4 runs? GET THE HELL OUT!

JSG
09-28-07, 09:21 AM
The Phils have all the momentum right now. A Monday playoff would be intense.

i don't follow the NL or mets but i caught a snippet last night of a potentiallly truly bizarre scenario with the WC, something to the effect that:

-- mets and phillies tie for the div
-- each of mets phillies SD and colo tie for the WC
-- mets and phillies play for the div
-- loser gets into first ever 3-way tie for the WC
-- team with best against record (colo) can choose to play 2 WC playoff games at home or play the winner on the road
-- assume the mets play the phillies for the div and lose; colo selects the road game; mets play SD for the WC in san diego >> would then fly back to shea to play colo for the WC; and then if they win fly back out to AZ to start the NLDS series .........

again, i'm not sure this is entirely accurate, but some weird wild stuff may be afoot for them having amazingly and inxeplicably opened the door ..............

LouisianaLightning49
09-28-07, 09:25 AM
WHOA WHOA WHOA.....you want Boston to score 4 runs? GET THE HELL OUT!

LOL, come on, they already scored 4 last night!! Otherwise I, of course, would have gone for the shut-out. :p Though watching Hasbeentek and Use-ki-less K with the bases loaded was a beautiful, beautiful thing. Thanks, Nathan.

Oh, and thanks NavyTim. Living in Mass has made me a little more fanatical than usual about our little ballclub. Glad to see it's appreciated. Go Yanks.

LouisianaLightning49
09-28-07, 09:28 AM
i don't follow the NL or mets but i caught a snippet last night of a potentiallly truly bizarre scenario with the WC, something to the effect that:

-- mets and phillies tie for the div
-- each of mets phillies SD and colo tie for the WC
-- mets and phillies play for the div
-- loser gets into first ever 3-way tie for the WC
-- team with best against record (colo) can choose to play 2 WC playoff games at home or play the winner on the road
-- assume the mets play the phillies for the div and lose; colo selects the road game; mets play SD for the WC in san diego >> would then fly back to shea to play colo for the WC; and then if they win fly back out to AZ to start the NLDS series .........

again, i'm not sure this is entirely accurate, but some weird wild stuff may be afoot for them having amazingly and inxeplicably opened the door ..............

Do you guys know if this NL playoff mess is going to delay the AL playoff games as well, or are they going to play the ALDS games while all this NL tiebreaker business is going on? I heard that there's a way the NL playoff teams don't get decided until the end of next week.......... Some extra rest could really help some guys (Clemens?) and may hurt some others (CMW?).

DudeNYC
09-28-07, 09:58 AM
-- mets and phillies tie for the div
-- each of mets phillies SD and colo tie for the WC
-- mets and phillies play for the div
-- loser gets into first ever 3-way tie for the WC
-- team with best against record (colo) can choose to play 2 WC playoff games at home or play the winner on the road
-- assume the mets play the phillies for the div and lose; colo selects the road game; mets play SD for the WC in san diego >> would then fly back to shea to play colo for the WC; and then if they win fly back out to AZ to start the NLDS series .........

Ugh...brain hurts....:confused:

Thank you Mr. Selig for this nightmare scenario! :mad:

blumj
09-28-07, 10:07 AM
This is bad. This reminds me of the 2003 ALCS when Boston had their grounds crew paint the World Series logo on the Fenway field prior to game 7.

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4102502dt.jpg

No, it's not anything. MLB does that, and they always do. I'm sure they're already trying to sell a Sox one, too. Just imagine all the different NL ones they're trying to sell, this is probably driving them nuts.

cupcollector99
09-28-07, 01:05 PM
No, it's not anything. MLB does that, and they always do. I'm sure they're already trying to sell a Sox one, too. Just imagine all the different NL ones they're trying to sell, this is probably driving them nuts.

I know they pre-make a certain amount to give to the winning teams and for promotions and they'll roll out and mass produce when the actual team actually wins. As for the small number of promotion copies they make that don't get used, I could be wrong but I think they donate them to 3rd world charities.

BonusCantos
09-28-07, 02:31 PM
I know they pre-make a certain amount to give to the winning teams and for promotions and they'll roll out and mass produce when the actual team actually wins. As for the small number of promotion copies they make that don't get used, I could be wrong but I think they donate them to 3rd world charities.Yes. I read an article within the last year where it talks about citizens of 3rd world countries wearing shirts that read, amongst other things, "Seattle Seahawks: Super Bowl XL Champions."

yankswn23
09-28-07, 02:38 PM
This is bad. This reminds me of the 2003 ALCS when Boston had their grounds crew paint the World Series logo on the Fenway field prior to game 7.

http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-4102502dt.jpg

But I sure do hope I get to wear that around Boston next week.

It was already posted on Boston Dirt Dogs, with the title


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... The Yanks Are Going to Be Wearing the Wild-Card T's This Time ...
For the East, Not West

Espinosa's Glasses
09-28-07, 02:42 PM
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hellonewman
09-28-07, 02:48 PM
Do you guys know if this NL playoff mess is going to delay the AL playoff games as well, or are they going to play the ALDS games while all this NL tiebreaker business is going on? I heard that there's a way the NL playoff teams don't get decided until the end of next week.......... Some extra rest could really help some guys (Clemens?) and may hurt some others (CMW?).Not sure so don't hold me to this, but I thought I heard somewhere that the AL proceeds as scheduled. If a bunch of NL teams are involved, such as in the bizarre 5-team permutation described above, they would still have to figure out a way to make up the "lag time" sometime before the World Series (perhaps by eliminating a travel day or 2 during the NL playoffs?). :dunno:

It helps that the playoffs don't start until Wednesday this year. That will give the NL Monday AND Tuesday to help sort out the play-in madness.

cupcollector99
09-28-07, 03:03 PM
It was already posted on Boston Dirt Dogs, with the title


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... The Yanks Are Going to Be Wearing the Wild-Card T's This Time ...

For the East, Not West

Doh!
This reminded me of a proof I approved once with the dates mixed up. A young guy that started as a presshelper that week noticed the error because it was his birthday and the senior pressman stopped the job and called me at home. It would have been a $15k error.

I bought the kid a dinner for two at Morton's in DC for pulling my chestnuts out of the fire.

Octoberbaby
09-28-07, 03:16 PM
I yelled louder when Youkilis struck out tonight than I did when Robbie caught the game-ending out last night. My wife thinks I'm nuts.

That was a great moment. I was watching the fans and they were so sure they would get that run they needed. Have to admit, I was sure they would too and pleasantly surprised when they failed to get it. The rain was the bad omen, reminded me of ARod's walk off this summer in the pouring rain!

Octoberbaby
09-28-07, 03:18 PM
But I thought for the last 3 years they've been "New York's Team"* :confused:

*Promo only valid in the month of May at select Queens locations only. Void where prohibited

I am soooo thrilled this is happening to the Mets. The fans have become insufferable in their insistance that the Mets are a better team, and more important to NYC than the Yankees. This will teach them to jump the gun. When their team has the amount of success and championships the Yankees have had then they can have bragging rights!

ajra21
09-28-07, 03:43 PM
what amazes me about how poor the NL is in general, is that i suspect that the orioles would be a playoffs team in the NL. the central is piss poor.

hellonewman
09-28-07, 03:54 PM
what amazes me about how poor the NL is in general, is that i suspect that the orioles would be a playoffs team in the NL. the central is piss poor.Yeah, I wrote about this in another thread, everyone is so focused on the Mets' collapse that no one is noticing what a bunch of hacks the Brewers are. The Cubs have been opening the door wide for them to steal the division and they can't even stumble through it.

Meecham4ever
09-28-07, 07:44 PM
Matsu-suka decides to pitch his best game of the year tonight, of all nights... :(

hardrain
09-28-07, 07:46 PM
Matsu-suka decides to pitch his best game of the year tonight, of all nights... :(

let him have his fun against the Twins who have already cashed it in.
The Yanks will pummel him in Game #3 of the ALCS

BonusCantos
09-28-07, 07:56 PM
The Twins have packed it in, so it looks like Boston's MN will be down to 1.

If the NL East scores hold, the Phillies will have a 1 game lead...MEANING they could clinch the NL East tomorrow. WOW.

Coors Field is rocking right now from what I can see.

Meecham4ever
09-28-07, 08:01 PM
The Twins have packed it in, so it looks like Boston's MN will be down to 1.

If the NL East scores hold, the Phillies will have a 1 game lead...MEANING they could clinch the NL East tomorrow. WOW.

Coors Field is rocking right now from what I can see.

I don't root for the Mets....but I don't hate the Mets....but....JEEEEZUUUSSS....WTF?!?!?!?!!?!? :P

BonusCantos
09-28-07, 08:08 PM
I don't root for the Mets....but I don't hate the Mets....but....JEEEEZUUUSSS....WTF?!?!?!?!!?!? :P
If the Phils take the 1 game lead tonight, the Mets are as good as done. Epic collapse.

Cambridge
09-28-07, 08:27 PM
The Twins have packed it in, so it looks like Boston's MN will be down to 1.

Ron Gardenhire would be interested in knowing just how that is. Exactly how have the Twins "packd it in"?

BonusCantos
09-28-07, 08:45 PM
Ron Gardenhire would be interested in knowing just how that is. Exactly how have the Twins "packd it in"?
I don't like your tone, mister.

teknetic
09-28-07, 08:49 PM
Hamels just pitched the game of his life, 13K shutout, nuts.

THEBOSS84
09-28-07, 08:51 PM
I wonder if Hamels will pitch the 9th

THEBOSS84
09-28-07, 08:53 PM
I know it means nothing at all, but I like seeing CC give up 3 runs so far to the Royals along with 7 hits and 1 walk in 4.1 innings pitched.

Cambridge
09-28-07, 08:55 PM
I don't like your tone, mister.

Accusing teams of packing it in is a serious accusation and an insult to the players and the manager. I'm quite sure that Ron Gardenhire and the Twins would take great offense to your frivolous claim, and that is my point. If you don't lke my tone, so be it. Just because a team doesn't win a a game doesn't mean they aren't putting out full effort.

Dynasties R Forever
09-28-07, 08:58 PM
Matsu-suka decides to pitch his best game of the year tonight, of all nights... :(

119 pitches coming after a 117 pitch effort.

I thought he was tired? Pyhrric victories?

rajah
09-28-07, 09:05 PM
Ron Gardenhire would be interested in knowing just how that is. Exactly how have the Twins "packd it in"?

Why are you here? What would move a Red Sox fan to post in this thread? Can you give us an explanation that does not cast you in a bad light?

frostdude1
09-28-07, 09:07 PM
Mets choking over and over :lol:

Big_E
09-28-07, 09:10 PM
Philly won....

frostdude1
09-28-07, 09:11 PM
Philly won....

awesome !:D

Cambridge
09-28-07, 09:18 PM
Why are you here? What would move a Red Sox fan to post in this thread? Can you give us an explanation that does not cast you in a bad light?

"In a bad light" is subjective. That said, I criticized a post that accused a team of packing it in simply because they weren't winning. Having looked Gardenhire in the eye when he talked about his team, I think my point stands.

LuisTiant
09-28-07, 09:28 PM
Our game is getting scarier than it should be.

teknetic
09-28-07, 10:03 PM
No suprise here..Tike Redman, Luis Hernandez, Jay Payton, another day and the same motto of getting beat by scrubs continues. Scrubs don't usually see much playtime in October, so I guess that's some refreshment.

THEBOSS84
09-28-07, 10:05 PM
Now that the Sox won the division we NEED them to finish with the best record so they can choose the long series (in order to avoid using Wakefield), thus giving the Indians the short series and making them start BOTH Byrd and Westbrook.

R.V.47
09-28-07, 10:06 PM
No suprise here..Tike Redman, Luis Hernandez, Jay Payton, another day and the same motto of getting beat by scrubs continues. Scrubs don't usually see much playtime in October, so I guess that's some refreshment.

Its true and so frustrating about getting beat by scrubs.

sweet_lou_14
09-28-07, 10:12 PM
Cleveland wins ... I believe that clinches a tie with LA, and therefore by virtue of the tiebreaker, they are higher seeded than LA.

So the Yanks will play the Indians, that's clinched.

frostdude1
09-28-07, 10:15 PM
Now that the Sox won the division we NEED them to finish with the best record so they can choose the long series (in order to avoid using Wakefield), thus giving the Indians the short series and making them start BOTH Byrd and Westbrook.

indeed

Toaderly
09-28-07, 10:17 PM
So long AL East title :-bye-:

followwind
09-28-07, 10:20 PM
So long AL East title :-bye-:
I really don't think it matters if we win AL East and then lose in the playoff. ;)

Our goal should always be World Series titles. Not the division titles. Sure it's good to have them, but as long as we are in the playoff I am fine with it, especially with the kind of year we had. To say that we will be in the playoff when we started 21-29 is quite amazing, imo.

On another note, the other New York baseball team is heading to abyss....

-tz
09-28-07, 10:28 PM
I wanted the AL East race to go till Sunday and make the Red Sox sweat. :mad:

It's a disgrace that we couldn't beat this disgraceful team. After tonight's loss, the best we can hope for is to split the season series, and that's if we somehow manage to win these next two "spring training" type games.

followwind
09-28-07, 10:31 PM
I wanted the AL East race to go till Sunday and make the Red Sox sweat. :mad:

It's a disgrace that we couldn't beat this disgraceful team. After tonight's loss, the best we can hope for is to split the season series, and that's if we somehow manage to win these next two "spring training" type games.
You can't win every single game in a 162 games season ;) .

The Q Bomb
09-28-07, 10:32 PM
Its true and so frustrating about getting beat by scrubs. When Payton came up I said to my husband, "Oh no. I still remember the homerun he hit off Mariano in Game 2 of the 2000 World Series. Well, I was one base off tonight! Damn!

mBiferi
09-28-07, 10:36 PM
When Payton came up I said to my husband, "Oh no. I still remember the homerun he hit off Mariano in Game 2 of the 2000 World Series. Well, I was one base off tonight! Damn!

Wasn't this one his 1st hit of Mo? I think Kay said somethin' about it

THEBOSS84
09-28-07, 10:40 PM
Wasn't this one his 1st hit of Mo? I think Kay said somethin' about it

Whenever they give stats (0-6 vs. Mo), they are always regular season stats. The hit the previous poster was referring to was in the World Series.

nemo
09-28-07, 10:42 PM
Whenever they give stats (0-6 vs. Mo), they are always regular season stats. The hit the previous poster was referring to was in the World Series.

And usually when they give stats, it's when you know they just jinxed it. :D

-tz
09-28-07, 10:46 PM
You can't win every single game in a 162 games season ;) .All I asked was to win 10 of 18 versus ... not the Red Sox, we DID that ... but the Orioles of Baltimore! And now that won't be possible. Unbelievable.

By the way, the Yankees are now just ONE game over .500 on the road. And as the Wild Card team, of course we never have HFA.

mBiferi
09-28-07, 10:47 PM
Whenever they give stats (0-6 vs. Mo), they are always regular season stats. The hit the previous poster was referring to was in the World Series.

Of course, I totally forgot about that. Thanks.

Toaderly
09-28-07, 10:51 PM
After clinching a playoff berth on Wednesday, the division title was no longer a priority for Manager Joe Torre, who has said he would limit Andy Pettitte to 50 pitches or so on Saturday and is planning to give Sunday’s start to Sean Henn, who has a 7.49 earned-run average. Torre also will continue to rest some everyday players.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/29/sports/baseball/29yankees.html?ref=baseball

theDurk
09-28-07, 11:17 PM
Quote:
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WOW! I bet everybody on the team wants to be Manager and Pitching Coach with Henn starting. This game could be downright painful....

TheInfallibleOne
09-28-07, 11:38 PM
Losing the division tonight didn't seem to bother me as much, knowing that Mets fans can finally shut up. This NYM team hasn't proved a thing and yet Mets fans crown them all first ballot HOFers and World Champs by April 10th. Now they go a full season, realize how much they actually sucked all year, and will play golf in October for it. Their fans truly deserve this for opening their mouths so soon. Only a ticker tape parade for the Bronx Bombers will make this even sweeter. And that parade is at its best after its participants have decimated their way through Boston and hopefully Philly (the team the Mets just couldnt touch)

Octoberbaby
09-29-07, 02:50 AM
Losing the division tonight didn't seem to bother me as much, knowing that Mets fans can finally shut up. This NYM team hasn't proved a thing and yet Mets fans crown them all first ballot HOFers and World Champs by April 10th. Now they go a full season, realize how much they actually sucked all year, and will play golf in October for it. Their fans truly deserve this for opening their mouths so soon. Only a ticker tape parade for the Bronx Bombers will make this even sweeter. And that parade is at its best after its participants have decimated their way through Boston and hopefully Philly (the team the Mets just couldnt touch)

You said a mouthful! Can you say, "Crash and Burn"? ;)

Still would have like to win tonight though, especially since we had the lead into the 9th. :(

yanksphan
09-29-07, 06:49 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/29/sports/baseball/29yankees.html?ref=baseball

So really, it's the Yankees who have 'packed it in'. ;)