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BonusCantos
09-08-07, 09:38 PM
I agree. They will likely win about what they should win- and at the upper reaches of that number, too. It's a club with good defense, ok pitching, and ok offense. mid to high 80's wins seems about right.
I think the best case scenario for them is about 88-74; probably a good way behind the Tigers and Yankees in the WC.

Dynasties R Forever
09-08-07, 09:41 PM
Pedroia's personality is part of why he's in the big leagues at 5'6''. What he said was 10,000% perfect. And accurate.

Edit: Seriously, if a pitcher is trying to intimidate you, don't get flustered, don't let him see you as intiminated. Respond as Sheffield did to Pedro, or dust yourself off and get a hit, or do something that fits with your own personality and hopefully flusters the pitcher. Why not say you're sorry to see Cabrera out of the game? Who does that give the competetive advantage to down the road? Certainly not Cabrera. Pedroia thinks every pitcher sucks, but in this case he's right.

LOL, yeah right.

Accurate yes, perfect?

BonusCantos
09-08-07, 09:44 PM
The M's are down 11-6 now. Game, set, season.

idle spectator guy
09-08-07, 09:46 PM
The M's are down 11-6 now. Game, set, season.

I would prefer it if the m's won....detroit is more of a threat

ebas
09-08-07, 09:47 PM
To think that I was actually ecstatic when we first traded for Jeff Weaver.... :eek:

Does anyone remember who we gave up to get Weaver?


We didn't give up too much. Ted Lilly and John Ford Griffin. It was a 3 way trade though and Detroit got Carlos Pena and Jeremy Bonderman from Oakland in the deal. Lilly was mediocre for the A's and I don't think Griffin ever made the majors. Pena was to be Detroit's 1st baseman for years to come, but was a flop in detroit. Bonderman has developed into a decent mid rotation pitcher and despite the promise he's showed, I don't know if he'll ever be the big time Ace he was supposed to be. It's been 5 years now. I think Detroit ruined him by bringing him up too young and letting him suffer through that 19 loss season. I think there were a couple of other throw ins but I can't remember who.

Messerwhitescooter
09-08-07, 09:48 PM
I find it hard to believe that the Bronx public school system let Manny down and couldn't teach him to read - I'll go with option B, he's lazy. :)
He went to High School in Manhattan.

gold23
09-08-07, 09:58 PM
Those still keeping an eye on Toronto....lost a horrific game today...gave up 4 in the 9th to lose 5-4.

THEBOSS84
09-08-07, 10:00 PM
Those still keeping an eye on Toronto....lost a horrific game today...gave up 4 in the 9th to lose 5-4.

This is good news. They need to be believe they are out of it by the time we play them this week.

LIYanks
09-08-07, 10:00 PM
We didn't give up too much. Ted Lilly and John Ford Griffin. It was a 3 way trade though and Detroit got Carlos Pena and Jeremy Bonderman from Oakland in the deal. Lilly was mediocre for the A's and I don't think Griffin ever made the majors. Pena was to be Detroit's 1st baseman for years to come, but was a flop in detroit. Bonderman has developed into a decent mid rotation pitcher and despite the promise he's showed, I don't know if he'll ever be the big time Ace he was supposed to be. It's been 5 years now. I think Detroit ruined him by bringing him up too young and letting him suffer through that 19 loss season. I think there were a couple of other throw ins but I can't remember who.

What's up with Carlos Pena this season? I hope this is not another HGH related performance boost.

Kluivert4Ever
09-08-07, 10:05 PM
If the Indians lose tonight we are only 1 game behind them, that is a good safety net just in case Detroit gets insanely hot (not that I think they will though).

nemo
09-08-07, 10:08 PM
I guess it doesn't matter now because they're 9 games ahead...

but wouldn't everyone rather of had the Mariners win the AL West and the Yanks take the wild card? This way the Angels are no where to be found in the post season?

Sam18
09-08-07, 10:12 PM
He went to High School in Manhattan.

One of the worst. I was supposed to go there but then I got into one of the best in the city. :o

Messerwhitescooter
09-08-07, 10:39 PM
One of the worst. I was supposed to go there but then I got into one of the best in the city. :o
Which one, Science?

Sam18
09-08-07, 10:51 PM
Which one, Science?

Yeah, how'd you know?

bostonyankeefan
09-08-07, 11:07 PM
5-0 Indians in the 7th. Nice to see the Angels drop a game.

Bloodsport
09-08-07, 11:11 PM
Yeah, how'd you know?

I thought it was well-known that the top public schools in NYC are Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, and Townsend Harris. (I went to Townsend, BTW ;)).

Glad to see the Orioles win one against the Sox.

Dee
09-08-07, 11:32 PM
I thought it was well-known that the top public schools in NYC are Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, and Townsend Harris. (I went to Townsend, BTW ;)).


Why you dissing Brooklyn Tech!!!!???? :-po'd-:

jeterismyhomeboy
09-08-07, 11:56 PM
I thought it was well-known that the top public schools in NYC are Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, and Townsend Harris. (I went to Townsend, BTW ;)).


Dee is right; Brooklyn Tech has to be on that list. It's a member of the Big Three.

On topic, it was nice to see the Sox get it handed to them tonight. Takes a mediocre day from good (Yankee win) to wonderful (Boston loss).

HA2007
09-09-07, 12:08 AM
This has nothing to do with the race, but am I the only one who thinks Michael Kay is an arrogant prick who thinks we are all privileged to be listening to him announce?

roblyo33
09-09-07, 01:54 AM
This has nothing to do with the race, but am I the only one who thinks Michael Kay is an arrogant prick who thinks we are all privileged to be listening to him announce?

Possibly.

JSG
09-09-07, 12:40 PM
is is really possible that the mariners have dropped 13/14 games ??!! PLEASE, let them finally play a decent game and rally around their ace hernandez. come on, take ONE game from the tigers ...............

teknetic
09-09-07, 01:16 PM
Seattle up 2-0 in the first. Still waiting for Bonderman to live up to the hype, even an ounce of it :)

JSG
09-09-07, 01:19 PM
would much rather hernandez live up to all the hype today !!! over and out.

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:28 PM
King Felix loads the bases for Magglio... with no out.

themgmt
09-09-07, 01:28 PM
King Felix loading the bases with nobody out and Ordonez at the plate. He came to play today.

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:31 PM
Maggs with a 2 run single... thanks Felix.

nnysiny
09-09-07, 01:32 PM
ugh, tied game. still no outs

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:34 PM
Boy, do i hate Guillen. That was a good pitch that he golfed for a double.

themgmt
09-09-07, 01:35 PM
King Felix defecates on the mattress

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:37 PM
I hope all those people who think Joba will be an ace immediately as a starter are watching King Felix. It just goes to show you just because you have a filthy slider and a high 90s fastball doesn't mean you are going to dominate.

BonusCantos
09-09-07, 01:40 PM
If the WC is the Yankees' route, Detroit is their only competition left.

Cheesyhoboe
09-09-07, 01:44 PM
Ichirooooooooooo

Bad start by both pitchers...

Cheesyhoboe
09-09-07, 01:48 PM
Felix loads the bases and Bonderman does the same...

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:49 PM
And Bonderman gives up another 2 runs...

4-4 Tie.

nnysiny
09-09-07, 01:50 PM
woohoo!

indianyanksfan
09-09-07, 01:51 PM
I hope all those people who think Joba will be an ace immediately as a starter are watching King Felix. It just goes to show you just because you have a filthy slider and a high 90s fastball doesn't mean you are going to dominate.

wasnt felix rushed even more so than joba who has had a good and steady progression?

roblyo33
09-09-07, 01:52 PM
wasnt felix rushed even more so than joba who has had a good and steady progression?

Short answer.....yes.

Janttje
09-09-07, 01:52 PM
5-4 Seattle with 1 out

mBiferi
09-09-07, 01:52 PM
Man, thank god I dropped Bonderman a couple of weeks ago.

Kluivert4Ever
09-09-07, 01:53 PM
Bonderman is out.

Seriously, the Tigers rotation is pretty bad outside of Verlander.

Kluivert4Ever
09-09-07, 01:53 PM
5-4 Seattle with 1 out

And bases loaded still.

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:54 PM
wasnt felix rushed even more so than joba who has had a good and steady progression?

Good and steady progression? Joba was in the minors for a half of a year. Felix was in the minors for 2 and a half years.

parkerstrong
09-09-07, 01:54 PM
Bombderman (I am so clever!...lol) allows 5 runs in less than two innings....good news!

Lets hope King Felix can right the ship.....

parkerstrong
09-09-07, 01:56 PM
Good and steady progression? Joba was in the minors for a half of a year. Felix was in the minors for 2 and a half years.

Felix is younger than Joba.....he is still very young.

girardi08
09-09-07, 01:56 PM
Bondo has a 5.01 ERA. It's funny how the media still considers him an ace.

Yankees1962
09-09-07, 01:57 PM
Bondo has a 5.01 ERA. It's funny how the media still considers him an ace.
I think he's hurt and I won't be surprise if they shut him down this week.

BonusCantos
09-09-07, 02:00 PM
Even if Seattle wins, I stand by my earlier statement that Detroit is the only WC competition left.

H.Kokubo
09-09-07, 02:00 PM
This game is starting to seem like a good fantasy day for me already.

3B Beltre 2-2 2RBI 2R
OF Beltran 1-1 1RBI
OF Ordonez 1-1 2RBI 1R

As long as Oswalt doesn't get killed in the Mets game (or if he does, hopefully by a GS or two by Beltran) and Rivera or Wagner gets a save, it'll be a good day.
Oh, and just for bonus, Ortiz hits a few solo-HRs and the Red Sox lose 9-3.

mBiferi
09-09-07, 02:00 PM
Homer by Granderson 6-5 Seattle

Janttje
09-09-07, 02:00 PM
Pfff.. What a game.. Polanco singles 1 out

parkerstrong
09-09-07, 02:01 PM
Even if Seattle wins, I stand by my earlier statement that Detroit is the only WC competition left.

Yeah. Like many of us thought, it was just a matter of time before the M's fall apart.

H.Kokubo
09-09-07, 02:02 PM
This requires headlines...Pedro Martinez just had a leadoff double off Roy Oswalt.

Janttje
09-09-07, 02:29 PM
Seattle is leading 10-5 in the 3rd

ppa79
09-09-07, 02:33 PM
Seattle is leading 10-5 in the 3rd

Good. Hopefully by the end of the day we have a 4 game lead.

DEADSOX
09-09-07, 02:37 PM
If we sweep and Mariners win today, it would be the perfect weekend, thats exactly what we needed

Yankees13
09-09-07, 02:42 PM
Hopefully the M's can hang on.

idle spectator guy
09-09-07, 02:51 PM
If we sweep and Mariners win today, it would be the perfect weekend, thats exactly what we needed

I'm a little greedy. I hope Boston loses again. :D

NYDCYankee
09-09-07, 03:08 PM
Melvin Mora takes Beckett deep.

JSG
09-09-07, 03:20 PM
and on other fronts, into the KC bullpen (4th) ..............

NYDCYankee
09-09-07, 03:47 PM
2-2 in Baltimore

idle spectator guy
09-09-07, 03:48 PM
good job, markakis. wang: stay cool.

Abe Frohman
09-09-07, 04:01 PM
guthrie out w/ injured chest? If they shut him down too whoa baby... O's without Bedard AND Guthrie is amazing for us...

-tz
09-09-07, 04:20 PM
guthrie out w/ injured chest? If they shut him down too whoa baby... O's without Bedard AND Guthrie is amazing for us...You should never EVER be glad about an injury to another team's player.

Reggievision
09-09-07, 04:21 PM
You should never EVER be glad about an injury to another team's player.

Yeah, leave that bitter behavior for Red Sox fans. We're better than that.

Janttje
09-09-07, 04:27 PM
Detroit lost 14-7..

JavyVazquezIsSick
09-09-07, 04:29 PM
3-2 Boston, Coco singles.

Yankees13
09-09-07, 04:32 PM
You should never EVER be glad about an injury to another team's player.
That's not very pragmatic...

Nicky_Mantle
09-09-07, 04:46 PM
You should never EVER be glad about an injury to another team's player.

Whatever. If Varitek got hit by a bus, i'd do backflips.

Act like you wouldn't.

Reggievision
09-09-07, 04:48 PM
Whatever. If Varitek got hit by a bus, i'd do backflips.

Act like you wouldn't.

I'd rather him be hale, hearty, and healthy so he can go 0-15 with 9K's when the Yankees sweep the Red Sox.

girardi08
09-09-07, 04:48 PM
Papelbon is due to give up some runs. Let's go, Orioles, I want a walkoff.

b_joseph
09-09-07, 04:48 PM
Whatever. If Varitek got hit by a bus, i'd do backflips.

Act like you wouldn't.
Tut tut..Its only Sports. And you my friend, you are taking it too seriously.

Never wish injury on someone.

teknetic
09-09-07, 04:51 PM
I think he's hurt and I won't be surprise if they shut him down this week.

He's been terrible since June, pretty long stretch to be hiding you're injured. He's never lived up the hype and he still gets it. Hell, YES showed a graph the other night in Hughes' start, of three future Hall of Famer starters and their rough first season..the fourth guy on that list? Bonderman.

ct85
09-09-07, 05:08 PM
Can someone answer my question

I don't understand how Beckett got the win today.
He left when the game was tied at 2-2 at the bottom of 7th inning.
Then the Sox scored another run on the top 8th, but he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th.
From my logic, that would be a no-decision.
Why would he get the win if he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th?

Rice14
09-09-07, 05:09 PM
Can someone answer my question

I don't understand how Beckett got the win today.
He left when the game was tied at 2-2 at the bottom of 7th inning.
Then the Sox scored another run on the top 8th, but he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th.
From my logic, that would be a no-decision.
Why would he get the win if he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th?

He was still the Red Sox pitcher when the lead was taken.

He wasn't replaced till after Boston had the lead.

frostdude1
09-09-07, 05:09 PM
because he plays for the pink sox

Messerwhitescooter
09-09-07, 05:09 PM
Yeah, leave that bitter behavior for Red Sox fans. We're better than that.
You are so right. This morning I saw a Red Sox fan wearing a tee shirt that said in the same font as the "B" on the Red Sox cap, G.F.Y.
So classless.

BonusCantos
09-09-07, 05:09 PM
Can someone answer my question

I don't understand how Beckett got the win today.
He left when the game was tied at 2-2 at the bottom of 7th inning.
Then the Sox scored another run on the top 8th, but he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th.
From my logic, that would be a no-decision.
Why would he get the win if he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th?
The previous pitcher inherits the decision because the pitching change wasn't made until after the lead was taken.

H.Kokubo
09-09-07, 05:10 PM
Can someone answer my question

I don't understand how Beckett got the win today.
He left when the game was tied at 2-2 at the bottom of 7th inning.
Then the Sox scored another run on the top 8th, but he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th.
From my logic, that would be a no-decision.
Why would he get the win if he never pitched in the bottom of the 8th?
To make matters simple, whoever that pitched last before the team scored the winning run gets the win, provided the pitcher pitched atleast 5 innings if he was the starter.

Rice14
09-09-07, 05:11 PM
because he plays for the pink sox


Aaaah. that must be it.

I assumed they were just following the scoring rules regarding pitching decisions that have been in place for over a hundred years, but you're probably right.

BRONXBOMBERS06
09-09-07, 05:13 PM
F'K Him we'll shell his ass on Sat. Feel the pain of the BRONX BOMBERS

NelsonMuntz
09-09-07, 05:15 PM
As far as the wildcard race, everything worked out perfectly for us this weekend. We swept and Seattle and Detroit split.

ajra21
09-09-07, 05:17 PM
As far as the wildcard race, everything worked out perfectly for us this weekend. We swept and Seattle and Detroit split.


spot on.

plus we're only 5.5 games back of the AL east. sweep the red sox and we're 2.5 games out.

;)

Centerhero
09-09-07, 05:18 PM
Life is exciting again!

frostdude1
09-09-07, 05:18 PM
Aaaah. that must be it.

I assumed they were just following the scoring rules regarding pitching decisions that have been in place for over a hundred years, but you're probably right.

nope , its because he plays for the pink sox :P

ct85
09-09-07, 05:19 PM
The previous pitcher inherits the decision because the pitching change wasn't made until after the lead was taken.

Hmmm I see, thx so much for clarifying.

Woudln't this be an advantage to pitchers who pitch in the bottom inning? namely the visiting team pitchers.

Take Beckett's win today for example, technically he never pitched, or defended, boston's lead in the bottom of the 8th, yet he still gets the win as long as pitching change was made after the lead was taken.

I mean, he could've very well blown the lead in the bottom of the 8th inning and take the loss if he took the mound again.

Is there a justification or reasoning for giving a visiting team pitcher such an advantage in the win/loss column?

themgmt
09-09-07, 05:22 PM
whoever is the pitcher of record when a lead is taken is the person who gets the win. so beckett was technically still in the game when the sox took the lead

ajra21
09-09-07, 05:25 PM
whoever is the pitcher of record when a lead is taken is the person who gets the win. so beckett was technically still in the game when the sox took the lead

spot on. had they already told the umpires that a reliever was gonna pitch, beckett wouldn't have got the win.

nemo
09-09-07, 05:36 PM
spot on.

plus we're only 5.5 games back of the AL east. sweep the red sox and we're 2.5 games out.

;)

woulda been nicer if the BoSox lost today and that number would be 1.5 games out isntead of 2.5 :)

trentonthunder
09-09-07, 05:36 PM
As far as the wildcard race, everything worked out perfectly for us this weekend. We swept and Seattle and Detroit split.


Yep, just perfect. We're on track to face the Angels in the first round.:(

sweet_lou_14
09-09-07, 06:07 PM
Hmmm I see, thx so much for clarifying.

Woudln't this be an advantage to pitchers who pitch in the bottom inning? namely the visiting team pitchers.

Take Beckett's win today for example, technically he never pitched, or defended, boston's lead in the bottom of the 8th, yet he still gets the win as long as pitching change was made after the lead was taken.

I mean, he could've very well blown the lead in the bottom of the 8th inning and take the loss if he took the mound again.

Is there a justification or reasoning for giving a visiting team pitcher such an advantage in the win/loss column?

There is no advantage for the visiting pitcher.

If a visiting pitcher leaves after the bottom of the 7th tied, and the visiting team takes the lead in the top of the 8th and hangs on, he gets the win.

If a home-team pitcher leaves after the top of the 7th tied, and the home team takes the lead in the bottom of the 7th and hangs on, he gets the win.

-tz
09-09-07, 06:11 PM
spot on.

plus we're only 5.5 games back of the AL east. sweep the red sox and we're 2.5 games out.

;)That's assuming we don't lose ground before next weekend.

You have to like how Torre said after the game that they're still shooting for the division, though!

roblyo33
09-09-07, 06:17 PM
Yep, just perfect. We're on track to face the Angels in the first round.:(

Three months ago you would have begged for that!!!

LIYanks
09-09-07, 06:18 PM
Yep, just perfect. We're on track to face the Angels in the first round.:(

Why is that a bad thing?

We can't possibly get eliminated by the same team in ALDS three times in this decade. I mean, that's like not winning the WS for close to an eon. oh wait,

JSG
09-09-07, 06:18 PM
tomorrow is a good day to recharge and root for kazmir !! would be nice for the rays to return the favor vs the red sox ........

PS maybe there is some celestial alignment after all. halladay vs tigers tomorrow ........ !!

trentonthunder
09-09-07, 06:23 PM
Three months ago you would have begged for that!!!

Good point :)

But doesn't it seem like this season that when we finally get some good breaks,
there is always a cloud hanging over us :(

Yankee Steve
09-09-07, 06:26 PM
Hey, Cleveland is only 2 games behind the Angels and play them tonight. Could be 1 game behind. You know what, though? After last year and how things worked out "perfectly" with Minnesota catching the Tigers on the last day, and then watching the Yanks come apart vs. the kitty cats, I don't root for the Yanks to play anyone anymore. Whatever it is, it is, and we will go from there.

THEBOSS84
09-09-07, 06:29 PM
Hey, Cleveland is only 2 games behind the Angels and play them tonight. Could be 1 game behind. You know what, though? After last year and how things worked out "perfectly" with Minnesota catching the Tigers on the last day, and then watching the Yanks come apart vs. the kitty cats, I don't root for the Yanks to play anyone anymore. Whatever it is, it is, and we will go from there.

Agreed. Also this year we have Andy "guts of glory" Pettitte going in game 2 whereas we had Moose in game 2 last year. The ironic thing is that this year we will have a 40+ yr old pitcher battling an injury going in game 3 again. Oh well.

Yankees1962
09-09-07, 06:55 PM
I think he's hurt and I won't be surprise if they shut him down this week.
I might actually be right for one of the few times in my life.



DETROIT -- Jeremy Bonderman (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7106)'s season might be over.

<!-- begin player card -->

Detroit Tigers (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det) manager Jim Leyland said the team will probably shut down the right-hander because of a nagging elbow injury that is not getting better.


"This guy is a trooper and wanted to go out there for us," Leyland said Sunday after the Seattle Mariners (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea) beat Detroit 14-7. "But he's not right."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3012075

gold23
09-09-07, 07:28 PM
Major driver seat right now. I'll follow the Sox, no doubt, but the goal now is to simply continue to win series'. Yanks do that, and they are in. 2 out of 3, 2 out of 3, etc... With a 4-game lead, probably don't need to play .667 ball down the stretch- but there's really not a series they shouldn't expect to win going forward.

teknetic
09-09-07, 07:34 PM
I might actually be right for one of the few times in my life.



http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3012075

Yikes, so I'm guessing it's recent..as he's been pitching like crapola for quite a while now.

BonusCantos
09-09-07, 07:38 PM
Major driver seat right now. I'll follow the Sox, no doubt, but the goal now is to simply continue to win series'. Yanks do that, and they are in. 2 out of 3, 2 out of 3, etc... With a 4-game lead, probably don't need to play .667 ball down the stretch- but there's really not a series they shouldn't expect to win going forward.
Yeah, I say why not keep following the Sox. Short of a catastrophe, the Yanks are on their way to the playoffs anyway, but that's no reason for them not to try to get better and see where they land on the 30th.

Abe Frohman
09-09-07, 07:53 PM
You should never EVER be glad about an injury to another team's player.

im not glad he got hurt, id just be glad to not see him shut our offense down again this season, thats all. if he is hurt, he'll have all off-season to recover and i wish him well... :D

thaa
09-09-07, 08:14 PM
... With a 4-game lead, probably don't need to play .667 ball down the stretch- but there's really not a series they shouldn't expect to win going forward.

I would be more confident about this if I didn't live in Toronto. I'll be a lot happier if they get that series out of the way without more than one loss. Toronto is still nursing that bush-league gripe over Rodriguez, and then there was the shoot-out last time. I hope the Yanks don't show up in that zombie moods that sometimes comes over them.

rodney27nyg
09-09-07, 08:33 PM
Why you dissing Brooklyn Tech!!!!???? :-po'd-:


YEAH!!!:mad:

teknetic
09-09-07, 08:35 PM
I would be more confident about this if I didn't live in Toronto. I'll be a lot happier if they get that series out of the way without more than one loss. Toronto is still nursing that bush-league gripe over Rodriguez, and then there was the shoot-out last time. I hope the Yanks don't show up in that zombie moods that sometimes comes over them.

That and the fact..we can't hit Marcum or McGowan..or that we're throwing out Moose and two rookies (who I have more faith in) This sweep of the Royals was huge.

roblyo33
09-09-07, 08:38 PM
That and the fact..we can't hit Marcum or McGowan..or that we're throwing out Moose and two rookies (who I have more faith in) This sweep of the Royals was huge.

There were a few pitchers that we faced this week that we hadn't hit all year and we went 5 - 0. Maybe the demons have been exorcized.

rodney27nyg
09-09-07, 08:43 PM
I plan on seeing the Yanks take 2 of 3 in Toronto.

gold23
09-09-07, 08:46 PM
I would be more confident about this if I didn't live in Toronto. I'll be a lot happier if they get that series out of the way without more than one loss. Toronto is still nursing that bush-league gripe over Rodriguez, and then there was the shoot-out last time. I hope the Yanks don't show up in that zombie moods that sometimes comes over them.

I actually think that may work to the Yankee advantage. Their dander will be way up, in part because of the incidents occuring previously.

yankeesAZ
09-09-07, 09:20 PM
As far as the wildcard race, everything worked out perfectly for us this weekend. We swept and Seattle and Detroit split.


Yes it did. Would have liked to seen the M's take 2 of 3 as Detroit appears to be the bigger threat. But we can't really ask for more than gaining ground on both teams and taking care of business on our end.

yankeeman61
09-09-07, 09:43 PM
Yes it did. Would have liked to seen the M's take 2 of 3 as Detroit appears to be the bigger threat. But we can't really ask for more than gaining ground on both teams and taking care of business on our end.

It actually worked out quite well. The Yankees sweep and Detroit and Seattle knock each other off. With Detroit taking 2 of 3 it pushed Seattle back from 2 GB in the loss column to 4 GB while Detroit still lost a game in the L column and they are also 4 GB.

yankeeman61
09-09-07, 09:47 PM
Cleveland taking it to the Los Angeles-California-Anaheim-Los Angeles Rally Monkey Loving Angels of Anaheim, 6-2.

Wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland end up with a better record

BonusCantos
09-09-07, 10:27 PM
Because of the games left with Boston and a possible 3 game pickup, the division race isn't over just yet. If the Yanks pick up a few more in the WC soon, it'll basically be over.

The Q Bomb
09-09-07, 10:39 PM
Hey, Cleveland is only 2 games behind the Angels and play them tonight. Could be 1 game behind. You know what, though? After last year and how things worked out "perfectly" with Minnesota catching the Tigers on the last day, and then watching the Yanks come apart vs. the kitty cats, I don't root for the Yanks to play anyone anymore. Whatever it is, it is, and we will go from there. Be careful what you wish for. How many folks wanted to face Detroit instead of Minnesota last year?!

aeromac76
09-09-07, 11:00 PM
Really a best case scenario this weekend..
We started the weekend 3 games up on 2 teams. We finished it 4 and 5 up on those same two teams..
Best case we could have wished for..

JSG
09-09-07, 11:08 PM
Hey, Cleveland is only 2 games behind the Angels and play them tonight. Could be 1 game behind. You know what, though? After last year and how things worked out "perfectly" with Minnesota catching the Tigers on the last day, and then watching the Yanks come apart vs. the kitty cats, I don't root for the Yanks to play anyone anymore. Whatever it is, it is, and we will go from there.

exactly right. besides the dubious attempt to second-guess the baseball gods ............ what happens if we root cleveland ahead of the angels ........ and then we start winning and boston starts losing ........... and THEN ............. [exit to the sound of furious backpeddaling .... !!] ..............

keg411
09-09-07, 11:20 PM
I'd rather us face Cleveland than the Angels mainly because I like the Indians more than the Angels and if the Yanks had to lose the series, I'd rather it be to a team I didn't despise.

JSG
09-09-07, 11:21 PM
Because of the games left with Boston and a possible 3 game pickup, the division race isn't over just yet. If the Yanks pick up a few more in the WC soon, it'll basically be over.

re the WC the mariners are toast, and things just got much tougher for detroit. we still must take care of business as our goals are loftier, but:

-- if we go a very doable (i would hope) 10-9, then detroit must go 14-5 or .73
-- if we are 11-8, then detroit must go 15-4 or .79
-- if we are 12-7, then detroit must go 16-3 or .84

THAT SAID, let's ignore it, shoot higher, play well, and let the chips fall where they may .............

THEBOSS84
09-09-07, 11:52 PM
The Indians can basically soon decide who they would want to play in the first round. As soon as it appears the Tigers are out of the division race, they can either play great and attempt to finish with a better record than the LAA and play the Yankees (whom they are 0-6 vs. this year)... or they can somewhat tank and play the red sox (whom they are 2-5 vs. this year).

JSG
09-10-07, 12:00 AM
The Indians can basically soon decide who they would want to play in the first round. As soon as it appears the Tigers are out of the division race, they can either play great and attempt to finish with a better record than the LAA and play the Yankees (whom they are 0-6 vs. this year)... or they can somewhat tank and play the red sox (whom they are 2-5 vs. this year).

is Dr. Evil their bench coach ?? he is reported to be a huge proponent of the "somewhat tank" approach.

StatenIslandYankee
09-10-07, 12:21 AM
Bonderman down? That's a huge plus for us.

mBiferi
09-10-07, 12:35 AM
Bonderman down? That's a huge plus for us.
With the way he's been pitching lately, I don't know if that's even a plus.

sweet_lou_14
09-10-07, 12:49 AM
Bonderman down? That's a huge plus for us.

Countdown to being slammed for appearing to take joy in a player being injured ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

yankeesAZ
09-10-07, 12:56 AM
I'd rather us face Cleveland than the Angels mainly because I like the Indians more than the Angels and if the Yanks had to lose the series, I'd rather it be to a team I didn't despise.

I say let's play the Angels. Let's get the (Rally) monkey off our backs. Like the Colts needing to finally beat the Pats.

First though, let's make the playoffs. I know it looks good now, but having lived through the 2004 ALCS debacle, no one on this board should ever take anything for granted again.

jeterismyhomeboy
09-10-07, 01:01 AM
I say let's play the Angels. Let's get the (Rally) monkey off our backs. Like the Colts needing to finally beat the Pats.

First though, let's make the playoffs. I know it looks good now, but having lived through the 2004 ALCS debacle, no one on this board should ever take anything for granted again.

Gotta agree with this. Let's not tempt the Baseball Gods with presumption. No one thought that the White Sox were a WS contender in '05 (and now we see why) or that the Cards would win any playoff game, let alone the whole thing. Just get in. And then fight like hell to stay.

JeterRodriguezSheff
09-10-07, 01:03 AM
I'd rather us face Cleveland than the Angels mainly because I like the Indians more than the Angels and if the Yanks had to lose the series, I'd rather it be to a team I didn't despise.

Id rather face the Angels for the opposite reason. Im not even thinking about losing. I dont like that mind set at all, Im only thinking about winning, and beating the Angels would without doubt be quite a bit more satisfying.

Im still on the "go through the Angels, Red Sox and Mets on the way to number 27" bandwagon. Although for a bandwagon it is quite lonely right now.:(

a2ruYankee
09-10-07, 01:04 AM
I say let's play the Angels. Let's get the (Rally) monkey off our backs. Like the Colts needing to finally beat the Pats.

First though, let's make the playoffs. I know it looks good now, but having lived through the 2004 ALCS debacle, no one on this board should ever take anything for granted again.


For me.. the Angels are not part of OUR BIG PICTURE... so I dont feel any need to beat them to get to WS ans win WS.... I would be ok playing Cleveland

jeterismyhomeboy
09-10-07, 01:08 AM
Id rather face the Angels for the opposite reason. Im not even thinking about losing. I dont like that mind set at all, Im only thinking about winning, and beating the Angels would without doubt be quite a bit more satisfying.

Im still on the "go through the Angels, Red Sox and Mets on the way to number 27" bandwagon. Although for a bandwagon it is quite lonely right now.:(

It's cool; I'm there with you. :D

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 01:16 AM
Id rather face the Angels for the opposite reason. Im not even thinking about losing. I dont like that mind set at all, Im only thinking about winning, and beating the Angels would without doubt be quite a bit more satisfying.

Im still on the "go through the Angels, Red Sox and Mets on the way to number 27" bandwagon. Although for a bandwagon it is quite lonely right now.:( I won't be joining you, I'm afraid. You'll never have a stress-free postseason as a fan, but remember when the Yanks would mow through teams that they had no real rivalry with and end up with a relatively painless path to the trophy? Those were the days.

The Angels series would be...too tense, even if they win. The Sox fans would be insufferable, even if we proverbially basked in their tears. Don't even get me started on the Mets fans.

What I'm getting at is, though it would be rewarding to wipe those bastids out in one swing, I'd probably have a stroke.

JeterRodriguezSheff
09-10-07, 01:27 AM
I won't be joining you, I'm afraid. You'll never have a stress-free postseason as a fan, but remember when the Yanks would mow through teams that they had no real rivalry with and end up with a relatively painless path to the trophy? Those were the days.

The Angels series would be...too tense, even if they win. The Sox fans would be insufferable, even if we proverbially basked in their tears. Don't even get me started on the Mets fans.

What I'm getting at is, though it would be rewarding to wipe those bastids out in one swing, I'd probably have a stroke.

Without doubt, yet that makes it so much more rewarding in the end.

yankeesAZ
09-10-07, 01:36 AM
For me.. the Angels are not part of OUR BIG PICTURE... so I dont feel any need to beat them to get to WS ans win WS.... I would be ok playing Cleveland

I'll be fine with any scenario that involves us in the playoffs.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 04:47 AM
I'll be fine with any scenario that involves us in the playoffs.

Me too.

If anything, just to piss off Steve F'n Phillips.:eek: :mad:

nemo
09-10-07, 08:28 AM
Id rather face the Angels for the opposite reason. Im not even thinking about losing. I dont like that mind set at all, Im only thinking about winning, and beating the Angels would without doubt be quite a bit more satisfying.

Im still on the "go through the Angels, Red Sox and Mets on the way to number 27" bandwagon. Although for a bandwagon it is quite lonely right now.:(

It'd be nice, seriously amazing, probably one of the greatest postseasons in a long time.... but I'm not with you. I gotta gree with BonusCantos. It's a stroke waiting to happen.

BRONXBOMBERS06
09-10-07, 08:38 AM
I'll be fine with any scenario that involves us in the playoffs.

As long as were there, I'm happy. I believe the BronxBombers will make some noise come playoff time.

metalyank
09-10-07, 09:32 AM
I don't care who we face, as long as we're there. We are the Yankees, we beat up on everybody, except no-name scrubs. :eek:

JSG
09-10-07, 09:37 AM
I plan on seeing the Yanks take 2 of 3 in Toronto.

me too. i think hughes builds on his last start and kennedy figures out his control issues and pitches more like the first game. hopefully the time off will help moose's arm and his velocity and he will be more of the "old moose". Q if he falters will it be igawa that steps in for long relief ??

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 11:07 AM
It'd be nice, seriously amazing, probably one of the greatest postseasons in a long time.... but I'm not with you. I gotta gree with BonusCantos. It's a stroke waiting to happen. Well, I think I could handle beating the Angels, but I'm up here in Boston right now and I honestly don't want to go through another ALCS. The fans, the media, how everyone will turn the clock back to 2004...not feeling it. And frankly I hope the Mets get swept in the first round.

roblyo33
09-10-07, 11:49 AM
Id rather face the Angels for the opposite reason. Im not even thinking about losing. I dont like that mind set at all, Im only thinking about winning, and beating the Angels would without doubt be quite a bit more satisfying.

Im still on the "go through the Angels, Red Sox and Mets on the way to number 27" bandwagon. Although for a bandwagon it is quite lonely right now.:(

Count me as a member of this bandwagon!!!

NYDCYankee
09-10-07, 05:53 PM
Boston's lineup tonight against Kazmir:

Julio Lugo, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Bobby Kielty, RF
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Varitek, C
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Alex Cora, SS

Ortiz's knee hurts.

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 05:56 PM
Boston's lineup tonight against Kazmir:

Julio Lugo, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Bobby Kielty, RF
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Varitek, C
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Alex Cora, SS

Ortiz's knee hurts. Wow, if they weren't facing Rays pitching, I'd say that's a pretty meh lineup.

kobayashimaru
09-10-07, 05:58 PM
Boston's lineup tonight against Kazmir:

Julio Lugo, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Bobby Kielty, RF
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Varitek, C
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Alex Cora, SS

Ortiz's knee hurts.

looking at this line up I only have one question...

YASS are you going to be a KC fan now :) ?

nhyankeefan
09-10-07, 06:39 PM
Wow, if they weren't facing Rays pitching, I'd say that's a pretty meh lineup.

They're facing Kazmir and as long as he controls his pitch count (which he usually isn't able to do against Boston) he should be fine against that lineup.

iWant27
09-10-07, 06:44 PM
Wow, if they weren't facing Rays pitching, I'd say that's a pretty meh lineup.

without Manny and Ortiz , their lineup is always "meh" . looks whos hitting number 3 , THE MIDGET .

girardi08
09-10-07, 06:44 PM
Glad to see Manny is still in his annual lengthy vacation.

dabomb2045
09-10-07, 06:53 PM
While a Angels/Sox/Mets trifecta to a title would no doubt be satisfying....I'm afraid I would never actually see the ending. I would not be able to handle that stress and would likely be in a mental facility by the time the World Series started.

susieb8020
09-10-07, 06:57 PM
While a Angels/Sox/Mets trifecta to a title would no doubt be satisfying....I'm afraid I would never actually see the ending. I would not be able to handle that stress and would likely be in a mental facility by the time the World Series started.

I'd still rather see Angles/Sox/Dbacks personally - but I agree - I will surely have heart failure before it ended.

roblyo33
09-10-07, 07:04 PM
Boston's lineup tonight against Kazmir:

Julio Lugo, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Bobby Kielty, RF
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Varitek, C
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Alex Cora, SS

Ortiz's knee hurts.

I'm sure Ortiz's knee started hurting as soon as he saw that Kazmir was pitching.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 07:10 PM
Boston's lineup tonight against Kazmir:

Julio Lugo, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
Mike Lowell, 3B
Bobby Kielty, RF
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Jason Varitek, C
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Alex Cora, SS

Ortiz's knee hurts.

His knee doesn't hurt...he's just tired of being embarrassed by Kazmir:eek: :D

girardi08
09-10-07, 07:12 PM
Schilling looks rather intimidating with that 87 mph fastball...

THEBOSS84
09-10-07, 07:13 PM
1-0 Toronto over Detroit in 1st

THEBOSS84
09-10-07, 07:29 PM
Glaus taken out of the game with an apparent foot injury - just in time for our series.

girardi08
09-10-07, 07:30 PM
Glaus taken out of the game with an apparent foot injury - just in time for our series.

Nothing a little juice can't fix.

nnysiny
09-10-07, 07:35 PM
Schilling's career looks like its near its end with the way hes been pitching

THEBOSS84
09-10-07, 07:35 PM
Much to my shock, Lyle Overbay is batting in the 230's on the season.

LIYanks
09-10-07, 07:46 PM
I'd like to see Tampa drop 15 runs on Boston tonight. Go Kazmir!

THEBOSS84
09-10-07, 07:50 PM
Pudge leaves the game with an apparent injury although I have no idea what could have happened to him. He walked out to the mound and then just took himself out.

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:01 PM
Is 38pitches.com scheduled to pitch against us?

I have no idea why the Devil Rays can't hit his 87 mph slop.

4bronxbombers
09-10-07, 08:02 PM
Oh...I forgot the Sox game was on....that will give me something to do tonight. :D

Meecham4ever
09-10-07, 08:03 PM
Is 38pitches.com scheduled to pitch against us?

I have no idea why the Devil Rays can't hit his 87 mph slop.

Or why we couldn't last week.. :dunno:

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:05 PM
Or why we couldn't last week.. :dunno:

We were hitting it. Just didn't have much to show for it. Lots of warning track flyouts and liners right at fielders.

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:10 PM
To answer my own question, from Peter Abraham


Friday: Pettitte vs. Matsuzaka

Saturday: Wang vs. Beckett

Sunday: Clemens vs. Schilling

Crucial
09-10-07, 08:17 PM
Pudge leaves the game with an apparent injury although I have no idea what could have happened to him. He walked out to the mound and then just took himself out.

He left the game due to dizziness the announcers said on FSN.

yankeebot
09-10-07, 08:18 PM
To answer my own question, from Peter Abraham
I like those matchups. Should make for some good baseball.

The Q Bomb
09-10-07, 08:19 PM
I'd still rather see Angles/Sox/Dbacks personally - but I agree - I will surely have heart failure before it ended. Jeez, NO! I still haven't recovered from 2000! I've been a Yankee fan since 1967 and when The Yanks recorded the last out against Seattle in the 2000 ALCS, after The Mets had already won the NL pennant - my first reaction was, "@#$!%(*"! It was, though, the sweetest victory I'll ever remember.

That being said, let's not get ahead of ourselves. With 20 some odd games left and a measly 4 game lead in The Wild Card and very little chance at catching the division leaders - I'm not counting any chickens before they are hatched. Especially since every other team seems to forget how to win when they play The Red Sox!

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:20 PM
I like those matchups. Should make for some good baseball.

Great storylines too. It's like they were scripted way in advance.

Pettitte vs Matsuzaka - battle of the #2's
Wang vs Beckett - battle for the Cy Young race
Clemens vs. Schilling - need I say more? this should be the best of all.

susieb8020
09-10-07, 08:22 PM
2-0 Toronto bottom 4

NYDCYankee
09-10-07, 08:22 PM
Bonderman is out for the year. Pitched nerve in elbow.

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:25 PM
Wow, Ellsbury almost made a spectacular play.

Meecham4ever
09-10-07, 08:27 PM
Sunday: Clemens vs. Schilling

What's the record for "STARTING PITCHERS, AGE, COMBINED"???

Kluivert4Ever
09-10-07, 08:29 PM
Great storylines too. It's like they were scripted way in advance.

Pettitte vs Matsuzaka - battle of the #2's
Wang vs Beckett - battle for the Cy Young race
Clemens vs. Schilling - need I say more? this should be the best of all.

I agree that the last two matchups got some great storylines but the battle for #2? Its a good matchup but hardly a great storyline.;)

susieb8020
09-10-07, 08:29 PM
Rays up 1-0 top 5 none on 2 outs

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:30 PM
I agree that the last two matchups got some great storylines but the battle for #2? Its a good matchup but hardly a great storyline.;)

There's probably no storyline there but it's a great matchup anyways.

nhyankeefan
09-10-07, 08:30 PM
What the helll was Youkilis thinking? He had no reason to cut that ball and then he threw it away. I'm sure Norton would have been safe anyways but it still doesn't make sense.

Does throwing the ball away end Youkilis' errorless games streak? It was clearly an error but the run would have scored anyways so I'm not sure if he'll get one.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 08:32 PM
I know it's Tampa but...why is the Fat Actress acting like a pitcher?:(

4bronxbombers
09-10-07, 08:32 PM
Tampa Bay will blow this lead.

spyglass
09-10-07, 08:33 PM
Sunday: Clemens vs. Schilling

What's the record for "STARTING PITCHERS, AGE, COMBINED"???
Didn't we have a Jamie Moyer and Randy Johnson matchup earlier this season?

susieb8020
09-10-07, 08:34 PM
Tampa Bay will blow this lead.

Let's hope they add to it!

Gringaloca
09-10-07, 08:34 PM
Carlos Pena needs to jack one here...:)

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:35 PM
A bloop and a blast please :)

LIYanks
09-10-07, 08:35 PM
Time for Tampa to show a little bit of that potent offense that they bestowed upon us last week.

4bronxbombers
09-10-07, 08:36 PM
Let's hope they add to it!

I'd LOVE it if they did. :P

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:36 PM
Bull................

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:39 PM
Crap. Let's hope this year's performance makes the Red Sox resign Schilling.

Gringaloca
09-10-07, 08:40 PM
Bull................

No kidding...even Remy said that Pena had a 'case' there.

He'd still be batting if not for the bs call...:mad:

S'all right...DRays WIN tonight...and Schill will need 5 days rest to pitch on Sunday...:D ..

sweet_lou_14
09-10-07, 08:46 PM
Crap. Let's hope this year's performance makes the Red Sox resign Schilling.

I hope they give him a JD Drew contract.

hatfieldms
09-10-07, 08:46 PM
Jeez, NO! I still haven't recovered from 2000! I've been a Yankee fan since 1967 and when The Yanks recorded the last out against Seattle in the 2000 ALCS, after The Mets had already won the NL pennant - my first reaction was, "@#$!%(*"! It was, though, the sweetest victory I'll ever remember.

That being said, let's not get ahead of ourselves. With 20 some odd games left and a measly 4 game lead in The Wild Card and very little chance at catching the division leaders - I'm not counting any chickens before they are hatched. Especially since every other team seems to forget how to win when they play The Red Sox!

That probably has nothing to do with them being a good team

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:46 PM
Wow. B.J. Upton has a cannon :D

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:49 PM
Hate to say it but Schilling probably has a better curve than Mussina right now... and Schilling has only been throwing the curve this year :(

The Q Bomb
09-10-07, 08:51 PM
That probably has nothing to do with them being a good team Please - don't ruin my snide remark with logic! ;) I'm in no mood to admit The Red Sox are good!

girardi08
09-10-07, 08:53 PM
Schilling must give up the most warning track flyouts in the league.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 08:57 PM
Schillings season ERA after 80 pitches is astronomical.

WTH's going on?

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 08:58 PM
I fully expect a battle of bullpens...and the Sox pulling this one out.

YASS
09-10-07, 08:58 PM
looking at this line up I only have one question...

YASS are you going to be a KC fan now :) ?

I am now, and have always been a KC fan.

But, yeah, that's a pretty weak lineup vs. Kazmir.

YASS
09-10-07, 08:59 PM
Wow. B.J. Upton has a cannon :D

He does, and it's not even the best arm in the Rays outfield. Delmon Young has a rocket on his shoulder, too.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:00 PM
He does, and it's not even the best arm in the Rays outfield. Delmon Young has a rocket on his shoulder, too.

Have you seen his brother's arm? Wow, just wow. It's the best CF arm I have ever seen.

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:01 PM
Hate to say it but Schilling probably has a better curve than Mussina right now... and Schilling has only been throwing the curve this year :(
OMG you're kidding yes?? At least you said right now!
I'm gonna :barf:

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:02 PM
OMG you're kidding yes?? At least you said right now!
I'm gonna :barf:

This year, yes. But in Mussina's prime Schilling's curve doesn't compare.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:05 PM
Kazmir is disgusting. He never used to have that kind of changeup. He's made some batters look silly, 8 Ks through 6.

sweet_lou_14
09-10-07, 09:06 PM
Kazmir at 96 pitches. Not even sure if he'll pitch the 7th ... hard to imagine the TB bullpen shutting down even this very weak Sox lineup.

roblyo33
09-10-07, 09:06 PM
Kazmir is a stud and he's only 23. Let's hope the Drays can get some runs here.

YASS
09-10-07, 09:07 PM
Kazmir is disgusting. He never used to have that kind of changeup. He's made some batters look silly, 8 Ks through 6.

Kielty, in particular, has looked like a twelve-year-old against him. Rarely do you see a batter so completely overmatched.

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:08 PM
Close your eyes and picture moose's in a 12/6 drop. Even in a season of bad days it is better than schils.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:08 PM
Kazmir at 96 pitches. Not even sure if he'll pitch the 7th ... hard to imagine the TB bullpen shutting down even this very weak Sox lineup.

He averages 107 pitches per start.

sweet_lou_14
09-10-07, 09:09 PM
He averages 107 pitches per start.

Surprised to hear that ... I've seen a couple of his starts where he was getting pulled around 90 and I remember thinking they were really babying him.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:11 PM
Close your eyes and picture moose's in a 12/6 drop. Even in a season of bad days it is better than schils.

Over his last few starts, Mussina's curve has been nonexistent. It's been very loopy and hittable

He's had a good curve this year on occasion. Especially the Cleveland game.

And don't get me wrong, when Moose is right Schilling's curve isn't even close. But over his last few starts he hasn't been right.

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:11 PM
enough preaching to the choir!
cmon tampa!

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:12 PM
Surprised to hear that ... I've seen a couple of his starts where he was getting pulled around 90 and I remember thinking they were really babying him.

Me too, Lou.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/preview/MLB_20070910_TB@BOS

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:13 PM
im gonna "date" my self.....
i miss the tacoma yankees!

roblyo33
09-10-07, 09:16 PM
D-Rays announcers expounding on Yuk's whining......LOL

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:17 PM
D-Rays announcers expounding on Yuk's whining......LOL

:lol: :lol: Hilarious.

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:19 PM
Kazmir's pitched quite a game.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:21 PM
That was strike 3.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:24 PM
Wow, what a pathetic at-bat by Ellsbury

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:25 PM
1-0 Rays after 7. A job well done by Scott Kazmir.

roblyo33
09-10-07, 09:25 PM
Great inning and game by Kazmir!!

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:26 PM
Scott ................ing Kazmir. :clap: :clap:

7 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 10 K

Gringaloca
09-10-07, 09:27 PM
Joel 'zoomzoom' Zumaya out of the Det/Tor game with a blister on his right hand?...

btw..If you think Youk's beard is scary...check out Zumayas'...:D

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:27 PM
im gonna "date" my self.....
i miss the tacoma yankees!

Thats not so old. Late 1970's.

I remember the Greensboro Yankees (then Hornets and Bats), the west haven yankees, manchester (NH) yankees, even the Confederate Yankees (Augusta, Ga.).

I'm ancient.

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:28 PM
ha ha no score 4 u

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
Seriously, the Red Sox are trotting out scrubs now and the Devil Rays still can't hit them...

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
Thats not so old. Late 1970's.

I remember the Greensboro Yankees (then Hornets and Bats), the west haven yankees, manchester (NH) yankees, even the Confederate Yankees (Augusta, Ga.).

I'm ancient.
did u get 2 watch all those teams play?

the yankee
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
Zumaya out with an injury??

Kluivert4Ever
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
4-1 Toronto.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
Kazmir = 209 K's this year so far.

JSG
09-10-07, 09:30 PM
yesssssssssssssssss !!!!!!!!!

4-1 jays .........

the yankee
09-10-07, 09:31 PM
Zaun singles to put the Jays 4-1 on the top of the 8th!!

Kluivert4Ever
09-10-07, 09:31 PM
Zumaya out with an injury??

Yup, apparently he kept scratching his beard and got a blister.

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:33 PM
did u get 2 watch all those teams play?


Only the Hornets. There was less coverage of minor league ball back in the 1960's.

They were just the mythical places that we young Yankee fans heard our heroes ascended through to reach us.:D

the yankee
09-10-07, 09:33 PM
Yup, apparently he kept scratching his beard and got a blister.

Gameday says he is out due to an arm/wrist injury.

LIYanks
09-10-07, 09:34 PM
Pena K'd for the third time tonight. :mad:

Is this the same player who went 4 for 9 with 3 HRs last week against us? WTH.

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:35 PM
If the score holds, Detroit will be 5 out in the loss column. I really don't think this WC race is going to be a race much longer if the Yanks stay hot.

Gringaloca
09-10-07, 09:36 PM
Gameday says he is out due to an arm/wrist injury.

Detroit broadcast is saying he's got a 'nail' problem...ie..Wang?..

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:36 PM
I realize that the Red Sox are a better team than the Yankees. But come on, give me a break, the Red Sox are trotting scrubs and has-beens out there and the Devil Rays can't hit them. Where are the Devil Rays we saw in the Bronx last week? Typical.

roblyo33
09-10-07, 09:38 PM
Thats not so old. Late 1970's.

I remember the Greensboro Yankees (then Hornets and Bats), the west haven yankees, manchester (NH) yankees, even the Confederate Yankees (Augusta, Ga.).

I'm ancient.

Albany/Colonie Yankees.........I'm old as dirt!!!

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:38 PM
Nice! A guy with a 6.19 ERA coming in to pitch the 8th.

-tz
09-10-07, 09:38 PM
Yup, apparently he kept scratching his beard and got a blister. :lol:

BTW, That's your most beautiful av yet, Klu!

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:40 PM
Only the Hornets. There was less coverage of minor league ball back in the 1960's.

They were just the mythical places that we young Yankee fans heard our heroes ascended through to reach us.:D
got to spend a whole summer hangin out at the park with those guys! Man that was livin, livin like a young yankee!!!:D

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:40 PM
Only the Hornets. There was less coverage of minor league ball back in the 1960's.

They were just the mythical places that we young Yankee fans heard our heroes ascended through to reach us.:D

I saw Donnie, Pagliarulo, Willie McGee, Steve Lombardozzi, McGriff, Pasqua, Stan Javier (and a bunch of others who made it to the majors) pass through Greensboro.

Mattingly was a right fielder with only gap power (averaged like 5 homers a year...lots of RBI's tho). A guy named Matt Winters (1b) was suppossed to be our stud then. Donnie wasn't a big-time prspect then.

He switched to 1B when he realized it was a quicker path to the majors.

LIYanks
09-10-07, 09:40 PM
Nice! A guy with a 6.19 ERA coming in to pitch the 8th.

Luge made him look good.

At least Detroit is losing.

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:42 PM
got to spend a whole summer hangin out at the park with those guys! Man that was livin, livin like a young yankee!!!:D

now we're farmin Maryanns (mariners). and look like PCL fodder.:mad:

prcyankee
09-10-07, 09:44 PM
I saw Donnie, Pagliarulo, Willie McGee, Steve Lombardozzi, McGriff, Pasqua, Stan Javier (and a bunch of others who made it to the majors) pass through Greensboro.

Mattingly was a right fielder with only gap power (averaged like 5 homers a year...lots of RBI's tho). A guy named Matt Winters (1b) was suppossed to be our stud then. Donnie wasn't a big-time prspect then.

He switched to 1B when he realized it was a quicker path to the majors.

i hate you:-surrende

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:44 PM
Sit down Dusty.

nycdoc999
09-10-07, 09:44 PM
Can I say right now that the 2 players I like least on Red Sox are little "dusty" pedroia and Youkulis, who complains about every single call?

Edit: Nothin beter than a K by dusty - except for an inning-ending DP that is, but we'll take the K nonetheless

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:45 PM
Grab some bench Dustin.

nycdoc999
09-10-07, 09:45 PM
What a crappy throw by Navarro

Edit: Coco needs to trim the 'fro a bit, doesn't he?

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:46 PM
Looks like Ortiz has come out on deck.

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:47 PM
Big Fatty on deck.

BonusCantos
09-10-07, 09:48 PM
Strike 3!

rodney27nyg
09-10-07, 09:48 PM
Here's a cool site for Yankee affiliates:

http://www.digitalballparks.com/Yankees.html

nycdoc999
09-10-07, 09:48 PM
Nice!!!!

Sit down Lowell

girardi08
09-10-07, 09:48 PM
Beautiful inning by Wheeler. Two strikeouts looking.

Go sit down Big Fatty.