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LoweRez
08-25-07, 06:33 PM
5- 0 Cleveland in the 1st

hockeypuck2008
08-25-07, 06:34 PM
i'd like to fire ozzie guillen because he's useless. like you.

he's shut out tampa bay and the white sox. two horrendous offenses. big deal. too bad he isn't facing the yankees in about a week.

That is so funny. These are teams that you lost NINE games to this year. 11-9 record total. So if these teams are "horrendous" and you are barely beating them then what does that say about you?

cupcollector99
08-25-07, 06:36 PM
- begin rant>
That team just stinks. Their record is no indication of the suckitude. They quit, plain and simple.
Selig should look into this fiasco and see wtf is going on there because I've never seen a team quit this early in the season. There is no rational explanation for a team of major leaguers two years removed from a WS championship to just plain quit. Why should successful franchises underwrite this horrible display of baseball from any team with profit sharing?

- rant over>

iWant27
08-25-07, 06:59 PM
I said earlier . Do the white sox have any self-esteem left ? Are they even trying ? Its one thing to lose and its another to lose 3 straight games like that .

Stashed_in_the_South
08-25-07, 07:47 PM
I don't know who typed it, but:

"If the White Sox grab their ankles any tighter, their feet will turn blue" was freaking CLASSIC.

:lol: :lol:

nycdoc999
08-25-07, 08:00 PM
Seattle scores on a sac fly, 1-0 in the 2nd...

NYIndian2005
08-25-07, 08:00 PM
from 4 games to 7 games back. This is depressing.

Jace
08-25-07, 08:46 PM
It is pretty crazy to see Texas set the record for runs in a game and get shut down by Horatio Ramirez

bannusvdk
08-25-07, 09:05 PM
HR Kinsler—3-3 ball game in Texas

ericns1
08-25-07, 09:05 PM
How about the Angels go into a slide and they miss the playoffs? Seattle may pass them for 1st.

spyglass
08-25-07, 09:23 PM
How about the Angels go into a slide and they miss the playoffs? Seattle may pass them for 1st.
That's what I'm rooting for.

Gringaloca
08-25-07, 09:29 PM
Toronto doing their best to make it happen...comes back to tie from down 2-0 in the top of the 4th.

Shaun Marcum trying to hold the LAA's here with 2 on 2 out in the bottom..

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 09:34 PM
HR Kinsleró3-3 ball game in TexasWhich really shouldn't have happened in my opinion (was watching the game); Im 99 percent sure Sexson tagged a guy out for the third out of the inning....but they called him safe.

But hey we'll take it :D

Go Texas and Toronto!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:42 PM
C'mon Texas. We need to move up in the WC!!!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:45 PM
GREAT throw by Botts at home to nail Guillen, still tied!!!!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:53 PM
y'all should tune into the M's game, it's a good one.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:54 PM
Error by Beltre, 4-3 Rangers! Kinsler on 3rd with 1 out!! WOOT!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:55 PM
The squeeze by laird who almost got hit by the pitch, wow. 5-3 now. Just missed hitting him in the face!

NyQuil
08-25-07, 09:57 PM
Texas and Toronto leading...good stuff.

spyglass
08-25-07, 09:57 PM
Toronto 5-2 over the Angels in the top of the fifth.

yankeesAZ
08-25-07, 09:57 PM
Can't believe Beltre made a throw like that. He's a very good defensive 3B. That suicide squeeze was crazy. It happened so fast I never even saw that the ball did get bunted towards the mound.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:58 PM
Man did that pitch come so close to beaning Laird square in the face. Scary.

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 09:58 PM
y'all should tune into the M's game, it's a good one.

I'd love to but it doesn't appear on my EI schedule. :mad:

4-3 Rangers!

C'mon, Texas, let's see some of that 30-run offense, ferchrissakes.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 09:59 PM
I'd love to but it doesn't appear on my EI schedule. :mad:

4-3 Rangers!

C'mon, Texas, let's see some of that 30-run offense, ferchrissakes.

5-3 now. ;)

nnysiny
08-25-07, 10:01 PM
Man did that pitch come so close to beaning Laird square in the face. Scary.

i thought it hit him in the face at first. the bat saved him, and scored a run in the process

Jasbro
08-25-07, 10:03 PM
I can't believe Laird didn't even run that out.



Kidding.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:03 PM
i thought it hit him in the face at first. the bat saved him, and scored a run in the process

yeah, like yankeesAZ said, it all happened so fast you couldn't tell.

Won Gien Ming
08-25-07, 10:05 PM
Come on, Texas... keep Seattle at bay.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:07 PM
Jones K's, still 5-3 going into the bottom of the 8th.

Kluivert4Ever
08-25-07, 10:07 PM
Sit down, Jones!

Texas better keep Benoit in there for the 9th.

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:09 PM
Wow the Angels and M's are both losing!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:09 PM
The ballgirl warming up with Ibanez probably has a better arm than Damon.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:13 PM
Top 9 for Seattle, their last chance.

BathroomWaterIsGood
08-25-07, 10:15 PM
I'd love to but it doesn't appear on my EI schedule. :mad:

4-3 Rangers!

C'mon, Texas, let's see some of that 30-run offense, ferchrissakes.

Do you get the Yankee game tomorrow?

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:16 PM
Tying run to the plate nobody out

girardi08
08-25-07, 10:17 PM
c.j wilson is their closer? :uhh:

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-25-07, 10:17 PM
The Rangers arent going to win

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:18 PM
Tying run to the plate nobody out

Born in '92 eh?

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-25-07, 10:18 PM
c.j wilson is their closer? :uhh:

Hes better than that other guy whose name escapes me at the moment. You know that guy that used be very good but lost velocity, and got traded for Gabbard?

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:18 PM
base hit guillen, oh no.

yankeesAZ
08-25-07, 10:19 PM
c.j wilson is their closer? :uhh:

Otsuka is injured I think.

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:19 PM
Born in '92 eh?

Yup, and born in Toronto as well:)


come on Texas

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-25-07, 10:19 PM
Eh I dont care if the Mariners win. As long as Anaheim loses.

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 10:20 PM
Do you get the Yankee game tomorrow?

Yes I do.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:20 PM
Yup, and born in Toronto as well:)


come on Texas

Nice, another canuck. '90 here myself.

Won Gien Ming
08-25-07, 10:20 PM
Geez... 2 on, no outs for Mariners.

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:21 PM
runners at corners, 1 out.

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:21 PM
Texas Wins!!!!

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:21 PM
Beltre, GIDP!! Game over! 2 GB!!! Cheers guys for moving 1 up in wc.

spyglass
08-25-07, 10:22 PM
Game over! :D Rangers win!

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:22 PM
Nice, another canuck. '90 here myself.

Yeah everyone on both sides of my family lives in Toronto except for parents and I

BathroomWaterIsGood
08-25-07, 10:22 PM
Yes I do.

I wonder why I don't. It says it'll be on YES so I should get it. That stinks. I didn't get the Seattle game last night or tonight either.

hardrain
08-25-07, 10:22 PM
excellent - down to 2 games again....a good day.

yankeesAZ
08-25-07, 10:23 PM
A "barn burner", but Texas pulls it out!

Won Gien Ming
08-25-07, 10:23 PM
Nice... let's hope Angels lose as well.

nnysiny
08-25-07, 10:23 PM
Rangers win! it was a good night

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-25-07, 10:24 PM
Beltre, GIDP!! Game over! 2 GB!!! Cheers guys for moving 1 up in wc.

Just makes you think that if we won the 2 extra inning games and we didnt get screwed in that steal of second game against seattle, we would be leading right now.

Good news is we are 2 behind seattle with 3 head to head left. That and Seattle faces Anaheim 7 more times this season.

girardi08
08-25-07, 10:24 PM
the rangers bring in a lot of fans despite being a mediocre team... the orioles should take notes.

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 10:25 PM
Hooray for Beltre! :D

3 back in the loss column.

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 10:27 PM
I wonder why I don't. It says it'll be on YES so I should get it. That stinks. I didn't get the Seattle game last night or tonight either.

Where are you located?

I see it on channel 734 or 731 (HD) @ 1:00pm on DirecTV.

-tz
08-25-07, 10:27 PM
What ... Seattle lost? Is that even legal? :confused:

Jeter Kid
08-25-07, 10:29 PM
Seattle/LA series coming up. That will be big.

DJ27
08-25-07, 10:30 PM
Seattle/LA series coming up. That will be big.

We need a sweep (either way).

sweet_lou_14
08-25-07, 10:30 PM
Seattle/LA series coming up. That will be big.

We need one of those teams to sweep. Preferably Seattle.

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-25-07, 10:32 PM
Seattle/LA series coming up. That will be big.

They have another 4 game series later in the year as well. We need to win the next 3 while one team sweeps.

Meecham4ever
08-25-07, 10:32 PM
i'd like to fire ozzie guillen because he's useless. like you.

he's shut out tampa bay and the white sox. two horrendous offenses. big deal. too bad he isn't facing the yankees in about a week.

Whoa whoa whoa, GIRARDI-come-lately....REAL lately, by the way....crank it back....sssshhhhh...turn it down, young fella...it'll be ok....

gregzzy22
08-25-07, 10:37 PM
We need one of those teams to sweep. Preferably Seattle.

really? i'd rather have the angels sweep because we actually have one more series with seattle but its definetly very nice that seattle lost for a change.

genius-24
08-25-07, 10:39 PM
really? i'd rather have the angels sweep because we actually have one more series with seattle but its definetly very nice that seattle lost for a change.
Oh boy, I am so waiting for that. I think we will crush them big time.

sweet_lou_14
08-25-07, 10:46 PM
really? i'd rather have the angels sweep because we actually have one more series with seattle but its definetly very nice that seattle lost for a change.

Well, even as I typed that I was thinking "be careful what you wish for" because getting the playoff opponent you wish for (I was hoping to play Detroit instead of Minnesota in 2006) often backfires.

But that said, I would still rather face Seattle than Anaheim in the first round of the playoffs.

NYIndian2005
08-25-07, 10:50 PM
Has everyone officially given up on the division?

conkermaniac
08-25-07, 10:50 PM
What ... Seattle lost? Is that even legal? :confused:
Don't think so. I think it violates state laws in New York, Washington, and California.

DJ27
08-25-07, 10:52 PM
Has everyone officially given up on the division?

Seems that way. It would be sweet justice to meet the Sux in the AL Championship and beat them the way the year has gone.

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 10:56 PM
7-2 TOR on Thomas 2-run double.

Why does Toronto own Anaheim? Yet Anaheim owns the Yankees. :\

MassNYYfan
08-25-07, 10:58 PM
Glaus 2-run HR

TOR 9
LAA 2

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 10:59 PM
Glaus hits a home run and Toronto is up 9-2!

Looks like they have it in the bag...Great Great day for Yanks fans (would have been perfect if the Red Sox had lost)

YanksFan1992
08-25-07, 11:07 PM
Toronto wins!

Dexileno51
08-26-07, 12:37 AM
Has everyone officially given up on the division?i'm not yet ( i'm the only one? )...at least until we play the sux

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-26-07, 01:20 AM
giving up on the division while we still have 6 head to head games left is stupid. I think people just want to take the wild card lead, because we want a fall back option.

groovitude
08-26-07, 01:29 AM
I want the WC lead until we have the division lead. 'Nuff said.

If we can beat the Red Sox in the six remaining H2H games, we can very realistically take the division. And regarding said poetic justice, I'd love to win against them in the ALCS, but the operative word there is "win."

jeterdaman
08-26-07, 02:40 PM
Red Sox 5
White Sox 1

Ortiz with a 2 run HR

Top 5

Janttje
08-26-07, 02:41 PM
Bosox are heading to a sweep..

Spiker101
08-26-07, 02:47 PM
The East is gone.

NYIndian2005
08-26-07, 02:48 PM
7.5 back.

teknetic
08-26-07, 02:49 PM
Might as well edit the title to the "Official: Watching the Seattle Marines Thread"

iWant27
08-26-07, 02:49 PM
I think Yankees should concentrate on wild card now .

YankeeinCT
08-26-07, 02:50 PM
Goodbye playoffs. The Yankees can't win close games against those lousy Tigers. They're digging their grave.

frostdude1
08-26-07, 02:50 PM
I think Yankees should concentrate on wild card now .

um yeaa

frostdude1
08-26-07, 03:00 PM
javy vasquez lol

Shefnation
08-26-07, 03:08 PM
yanks lose by 1 run, javy vazquez gives up 7 runs to the red sox, and julian tavarez is pitching a 1 hitter. the stars are just not aligned in yankee-land...

shotz
08-26-07, 03:13 PM
lets go White Sox!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dexileno51
08-26-07, 03:14 PM
what a joke of team...i feel sorry for white sox fans

girardi08
08-26-07, 03:17 PM
it's just not our year... the red sox throw out julian tavarez and he dominates while hughes gets knocked around. nothing is going our way this year.

YankeeinCT
08-26-07, 03:18 PM
it's just not our year... the red sox throw out julian tavarez and he dominates while hughes gets knocked around. nothing is going our way this year.

I have to agree with you there. Tavarez is an awful pitcher but this year every things going right for the Red Sox. They still have the most obnoxious team in baseball.

26 and counting
08-26-07, 03:19 PM
what a joke of team...i feel sorry for white sox fans

Not me. They won the World Series is 2005. Let them have a year or two of sucktitude.

shotz
08-26-07, 03:22 PM
give it time the sox will implode as usual, no more fluke year for them.


Hughes did ok it would have been good if Matsui got that fly in left.

frostdude1
08-26-07, 03:26 PM
Not me. They won the World Series is 2005. Let them have a year or two of sucktitude.

me too .. i dont feel sorry for any other fanbase , especially ones that have seen their team win the world series and I still havent :(

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 03:39 PM
I hate having the feeling of settling for the Wild Card, if that.

Rice14
08-26-07, 03:49 PM
it's just not our year... the red sox throw out julian tavarez and he dominates while hughes gets knocked around. nothing is going our way this year.

I think the difference in lineups between the Whtie Sox and Tigers has a little to do with that. ;)

MTYankee23
08-26-07, 03:49 PM
I hate having the feeling of settling for the Wild Card, if that.

If 4 weeks later they won the World Series, would you still hate that feeling?

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 03:57 PM
give it time the sox will implode as usual, no more fluke year for them.


Hughes did ok it would have been good if Matsui got that fly in left.

recent history states that the Yanks are the imploders not the Sox. All I hear is jealously, give credit when credit is due.

JimmyTheGent
08-26-07, 03:59 PM
The Red Sox are flat out kicking the White Sox ass this weekend. They have scored 10+ runs in 4 straight games, the first time in 50 years they have done that. From the 7th inning on they have outscored the White Sox 21 - 2 and not one Red Sox player was dusted off the plate, they are up there taking batting practice. I can't believe Ozzy Guillen hasn't snapped yet.

Runan
08-26-07, 04:00 PM
...I honestly had no idea the White Sox were THIS bad.

MTYankee23
08-26-07, 04:01 PM
recent history states that the Yanks are the imploders not the Sox. All I hear is jealously, give credit when credit is due.

And by recent history, we're talking 4 games in '04? The very definition of small sample size.

Mel Marquis
08-26-07, 04:01 PM
If 4 weeks later they won the World Series, would you still hate that feeling?

This is good logic. All that matters in the end is the ring. Seattle starts their gauntlet coming up and will have a brutal September. I would really be surprised if the Yanks don't get in.

BuryMe in Pinstripes
08-26-07, 04:03 PM
I think it is time to face the fact that the Red Sox are a better team this year. Our future is bright...but they are clearly a better team this year.

E-Rod
08-26-07, 04:05 PM
I think it is time to face the fact that the Red Sox are a better team this year. Our future is bright...but they are clearly a better team this year.

I agree with you, they are a better team, but we still have the chance to beat them if we get in the playoffs with the WC spot.

MTYankee23
08-26-07, 04:06 PM
I think it is time to face the fact that the Red Sox are a better team this year. Our future is bright...but they are clearly a better team this year.

I will say that on October 1. The Red Sox will have likely played a better 162 game season.

I will also say that on October 1, I will probably like our team as much or more than theirs. Which is all that matters in the end if we're one of the 4 teams still playing.

teknetic
08-26-07, 04:07 PM
I think it is time to face the fact that the Red Sox are a better team this year. Our future is bright...but they are clearly a better team this year.

They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

yankeeman61
08-26-07, 04:08 PM
I suppose it would be repetitive to start a new thread to specifically root against the Mariners and Angels?

BroadwayBomber55
08-26-07, 04:08 PM
And by recent history, we're talking 4 games in '04? The very definition of small sample size.

Bring up 2004, I turn the other cheek and move on.

NavyTim
08-26-07, 04:09 PM
interesting that the Sox had Pap up in a blowout, obviously to get some work after having 6 days off. I would expect he would be available for all 3 days for the Sox in NY. Obviously, in a save situation...not predicting, however, there will be no "Pap Rules" to be dealing with...

The Q Bomb
08-26-07, 04:09 PM
I think Yankees should concentrate on wild card now . How do they "concentrate on wild card"? How about just concentrating on winning each game. Isn't that what every team should be doing every game? How do you "concentrate on the wild card"? Win only select games? You play to win every game and you end up where you end up. If you are good enough you make the playoffs. The Yankees should not be thinking about "Division", "Wild Card", or anything but "Win today!".

As for all those @#^&* teams that keep losing to Boston and The Mets - a pox on them all!

Mel Marquis
08-26-07, 04:10 PM
They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

I don't find it amusing - I find it very impressive. The Yankees should be commended for their character in playing through their adversity. At the end of the day, however, all that matters is # wins.

BroadwayBomber55
08-26-07, 04:11 PM
This is good logic. All that matters in the end is the ring. Seattle starts their gauntlet coming up and will have a brutal September. I would really be surprised if the Yanks don't get in.

The World Series ring matters more than a division title or an AL Pennant.

The Red Sox may be the better team, but does it mean that we will call off the season and give them the WS title? No.

Whoever reaches the 11-win mark in a postseason wins the World Championship, that's what matters.

MTYankee23
08-26-07, 04:11 PM
They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

And this is why I feel that as presently consituted, we're the stronger team. Over the course of the first two months when we were rolling Mienky out there every day, and getting weekly starts from the likes of Chase Wright, Matt DeSalvo, Jeff Karstens, Darrell Rasner, and Tyler Clipper, overusing the good relievers we did have and overexposing the bad ones, they were a MUCH better team.

Now, they've added a middle reliever with declining stuff, and we've straightened out several roster spots.

If we could just get Chris Britton to send whoever he pissed off some flowers or green tea. . .

SalingerNY
08-26-07, 04:12 PM
Man Chicago is terrible. Just terrible.

girardi08
08-26-07, 04:13 PM
And this is why I feel that as presently consituted, we're the stronger team. Over the course of the first two months when we were rolling Mienky out there every day, and getting weekly starts from the likes of Chase Wright, Matt DeSalvo, Jeff Karstens, Darrell Rasner, and Tyler Clipper, overusing the good relievers we did have and overexposing the bad ones, they were a MUCH better team.

Now, they've added a middle reliever with declining stuff, and we've straightened out several roster spots.

If we could just get Chris Britton to send whoever he pissed off some flowers or green tea. . .

they have the better starting pitchers. i don't see how we are the stronger team. we have the better offense but pitching wins in the playoffs.

LuisTiant
08-26-07, 04:13 PM
Officially over. Sox sweep Sox.

JimmyTheGent
08-26-07, 04:14 PM
They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

Both teams have had good and bad months this season. The Red Sox started off extremely hot and are now enjoying the benefits of that. Up until this past week they have played so-so baseball since May 31st. But because of that hot start and he Yankees poor start the Red Sox were able to stay ahead in the standings. One stat I found amazing is despite having the best record in baseball most of the season the Red Sox have not had a winning streak this season of more than 5 games. I think that tells you that they have been a pretty "OK" team this season but not consistantly great for a long stretch, it also tell you that the other teams in the AL East consistantly inconsistent. Going into October it will be wide open, all that matters is what 4 teams make it.

Ljberkow12
08-26-07, 04:17 PM
interesting that the Sox had Pap up in a blowout, obviously to get some work after having 6 days off. I would expect he would be available for all 3 days for the Sox in NY. Obviously, in a save situation...not predicting, however, there will be no "Pap Rules" to be dealing with...

I would be surprised (but happy as a Sox fan) if the Sox could get Papelbon in three save situations. But they won't use him three days in a row under any circumstances, especially not with Okajima and Gagne around.

Ljberkow12
08-26-07, 04:18 PM
they have the better starting pitchers. i don't see how we are the stronger team. we have the better offense but pitching wins in the playoffs.
better bullpen too.

LoweRez
08-26-07, 04:19 PM
interesting that the Sox had Pap up in a blowout, obviously to get some work after having 6 days off. I would expect he would be available for all 3 days for the Sox in NY. Obviously, in a save situation...not predicting, however, there will be no "Pap Rules" to be dealing with...

With a 7 or 8 game lead no way the Red Sox use Pap 3 times

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 04:20 PM
The World Series ring matters more than a division title or an AL Pennant.

The Red Sox may be the better team, but does it mean that we will call off the season and give them the WS title? No.

Whoever reaches the 11-win mark in a postseason wins the World Championship, that's what matters.

you are absolutely right, no doubt. Like the line from Talladega Nights, "if you aint first you're last."

But of coarse try telling that to a Yankees fan when the shoe is on the other foot. I remember bickering last year with a Yankees fan about how since they didnt win it all they has nothing to brag to about to Sox fans. He believed he did. We finished higher than you, ha ha ha... is basicly what his temperment was. And I said you didnt win anything either so you have nothing to brag about. But try telling that to him though. He just didnt get it.

It doesnt matter what happens in the regular season. Once the playoffs start anyone can win it. Having the best record or worst record of playoff eligibles doesnt give you any advantage. It is anyones game.

MTYankee23
08-26-07, 04:23 PM
you are absolutelt right, no doubt. Like the line from Talladega Nights, "if you aint first you're last."

But of coarse try telling that to a Yankees fan when the shoe is on the other foot. I remember bickering last year with a Yankees fan about how since they didnt win it all they has nothing to brag to about to Sox fans. He believed he did. We finished higher than you, ha ha ha... is basicly what his temperment was. And I said you didnt win anything either so you have nothing to brag about. But try telling that to him though. He just didnt get it.

It doesnt matter what happens in the regular season. Once the playoffs start anyone can win it. Having the best record or worst record of playoff eligibles doesnt give you any advantage. It is anyones game.

Yes, a Yankee fan is a much lower intelligent being, and trying to tell them something when the shoe is on the other foot is nigh impossible.

If we lose the division and miss the playoffs, or don't win the world series, I can't picture ANY of the dozens of red sox fan friend or coworkers giving me a hard time about not winning the division if the Sox don't win the world series either. Its a rivalry, within a rivalry there's this type of banter.

girardi08
08-26-07, 04:24 PM
better bullpen too.

that's debatable. the starting pitching isn't.

trentonthunder
08-26-07, 04:25 PM
The Red Sox are flat out kicking the White Sox ass this weekend. They have scored 10+ runs in 4 straight games, the first time in 50 years they have done that. From the 7th inning on they have outscored the White Sox 21 - 2 and not one Red Sox player was dusted off the plate, they are up there taking batting practice. I can't believe Ozzy Guillen hasn't snapped yet.

If anyone has never seen a team quit on it's manager, then
just watch White Sox baseball 2007.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 04:25 PM
And by recent history, we're talking 4 games in '04? The very definition of small sample size.

and your point? It is the most recent history. You cannot argue with no matter what you say or how loud you scream.

girardi08
08-26-07, 04:26 PM
and your point? It is the most recent history. You cannot argue with no matter what you say or how loud you scream.

actually, the most recent history is the boston massacre part 2.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 04:26 PM
Yes, a Yankee fan is a much lower intelligent being, and trying to tell them something when the shoe is on the other foot is nigh impossible.

If we lose the division and miss the playoffs, or don't win the world series, I can't picture ANY of the dozens of red sox fan friend or coworkers giving me a hard time about not winning the division if the Sox don't win the world series either. Its a rivalry, within a rivalry there's this type of banter.

that is true, you are right. God we live to hate each other. It is the best rivalry in american sports.

BuryMe in Pinstripes
08-26-07, 04:31 PM
They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

Are we really still in the race for the division? I mean..we still have some games left with them but recent history has dictated that we split with them....this will not help us. There is no way we will catch them for the division. Their pitching is too good and will prevent them from having any long losing streaks and we will not sweep them. Another thing I don't get is how come some of you here think that this team..if we get in..will be a better team than Boston in the playoffs when they have been better all year??? Boston has been better all year..they have basically led wire to wire..and they have pulled away yet again and some of you here still seem to think we are saving something up for the playoffs? Get real.. Clemens is an average pitcher at this point..Wang hasn't been much better lately and Hughes is not ready for the Majors....and Mussina is pure garbage.

I have a sinking feeling Boston is going to come in here and bury us...I hope I am wrong.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 04:31 PM
actually, the most recent history is the boston massacre part 2.

actually most recent history is 6 to 3. But I am sure that massacre you talk about more than makes up for 2004. You must be so happy.

Lucen
08-26-07, 04:32 PM
They're better, but they don't really scare me. The fact we were still in this race playing so bad for two months, while their played their asses off is still amusing.

There is nothing even remotely accurate about this post. Since June 30th (I'll approximate your 2 months as all of July and all of August to this point) here are the team's records.

BOS: 31-20 .607 winning percentage.
NYY: 33-16 .673 winning percentage.

In no way shape or form have the Yankees been playing poorly, or the Sox been playing out of their minds. In fact, the Yankees have played better than the Sox in that stretch.

teknetic
08-26-07, 04:38 PM
There is nothing even remotely accurate about this post. Since June 30th (I'll approximate your 2 months as all of July and all of August to this point) here are the team's records.

BOS: 31-20 .607 winning percentage.
NYY: 33-16 .673 winning percentage.

In no way shape or form have the Yankees been playing poorly, or the Sox been playing out of their minds. In fact, the Yankees have played better than the Sox in that stretch.

Yea..except for the fact I was taking into account the first two months of the season. It's not breaking news that the Yanks had/have the best record since the break.

Lucen
08-26-07, 04:42 PM
Yea..except for the fact I was taking into account the first two months of the season. It's not breaking news that the Yanks had/have the best record since the break.

I thought you were talking about the most recent two months. I won't deny that the mere fact that the Yankees are in sniffing distance of the post season is impressive after being written off by so many.

rodney27nyg
08-26-07, 04:47 PM
actually most recent history is 6 to 3. But I am sure that massacre you talk about more than makes up for 2004. You must be so happy.

And 2004 doesn't make up for 86 years of dominance.;)

shotz
08-26-07, 04:47 PM
recent history states that the Yanks are the imploders not the Sox. All I hear is jealously, give credit when credit is due.


recent history.....

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051007&content_id=1242250&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos

jeterdaman
08-26-07, 04:50 PM
that's debatable. the starting pitching isn't.

what teams are you watching?

Jasbro
08-26-07, 04:51 PM
you are absolutelt right, no doubt. Like the line from Talladega Nights, "if you aint first you're last."

But of coarse try telling that to a Yankees fan when the shoe is on the other foot. I remember bickering last year with a Yankees fan about how since they didnt win it all they has nothing to brag to about to Sox fans. He believed he did. We finished higher than you, ha ha ha... is basicly what his temperment was. And I said you didnt win anything either so you have nothing to brag about. But try telling that to him though. He just didnt get it.

It doesnt matter what happens in the regular season. Once the playoffs start anyone can win it. Having the best record or worst record of playoff eligibles doesnt give you any advantage. It is anyones game.

It was a great accomplishment to win all of the consecutive division titles we did the past decade+, and it will be an accomplishment for the Sox to finally break that streak.

It is not about winning the regular season giving an advantage to a team in the playoffs -- it clearly doesn't. But it IS about winning the longest regular season in all of sports. It DOES matter who wins the division, even if the postseason gets cut short. You'll see what I mean once you win it in a few weeks.

girardi08
08-26-07, 04:54 PM
what teams are you watching?

the team that has joba chamberlain and mo rivera in the backend of their bullpen? the team that has luis vizciano, who has been pretty much unhittable since june??? the team that has a hot kyle farnsworth? a team that will contributions from brian bruney and edwar ramirez, both very good relievers?

Stashed_in_the_South
08-26-07, 04:57 PM
the team that has joba chamberlain and mo rivera in the backend of their bullpen? the team that has luis vizciano, who has been pretty much unhittable since june??? the team that has a hot kyle farnsworth? a team that will contributions from brian bruney and edwar ramirez, both very good relievers?

I don't honestly know if I had the chance to trade the entire Yank bullpen for the Boston bullpen that I'd take the Yanks'.

I think I'd take Boston's.

Meecham4ever
08-26-07, 05:09 PM
give it time the sox will implode as usual, no more fluke year for them.


Hughes did ok it would have been good if Matsui got that fly in left.

I would agree, if the season lasted until early December.....

shotz
08-26-07, 05:17 PM
December is closer than you think.....

teknetic
08-26-07, 05:20 PM
I don't honestly know if I had the chance to trade the entire Yank bullpen for the Boston bullpen that I'd take the Yanks'.

I think I'd take Boston's.

That would mean seeing Joba and Mo pitch in Fenway in the top of the 8th and 9th to close it out, cant do.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 05:28 PM
It was a great accomplishment to win all of the consecutive division titles we did the past decade+, and it will be an accomplishment for the Sox to finally break that streak.

It is not about winning the regular season giving an advantage to a team in the playoffs -- it clearly doesn't. But it IS about winning the longest regular season in all of sports. It DOES matter who wins the division, even if the postseason gets cut short. You'll see what I mean once you win it in a few weeks.

I agree with you 100% hence my comments up above. Who cares how you get to the World Series ring, just that you get it. But the streak is irrelevant, it is made more a big thing by the press than anything. I could care less if the Sox win the division. I want another championship, anything else means nothing to me. Just ask the Braves what their streak did for them? One championship, if I remember correctly.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 05:32 PM
the team that has joba chamberlain and mo rivera in the backend of their bullpen? the team that has luis vizciano, who has been pretty much unhittable since june??? the team that has a hot kyle farnsworth? a team that will contributions from brian bruney and edwar ramirez, both very good relievers?

problem is that that team you speak of has Mussina and Clemens. Who cares if your pen has pitched well if you cant get to them with a lead. And no matter how great the pen is pitching now it doesnt mean Clemens and Mussina dont start in the playoffs.

girardi08
08-26-07, 05:35 PM
problem is that that team you speak of has Mussina and Clemens. Who cares if your pen has pitched well if you cant get to them with a lead. And no matter how great the pen is pitching now it doesnt mean Clemens and Mussina dont start in the playoffs.

i agree. our starting pitching is average at best. doesn't mean our bullpen isn't a strength right now though.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 05:39 PM
i agree. our starting pitching is average at best. doesn't mean our bullpen isn't a strength right now though.

hey l give credit when credit is due, your pen has been fabulous, lights out in fact. If my Sox get behind and go into late innings behind, its over. Although Rivera doesnt scare Boston. It is the starters that should worry you.

frostdude1
08-26-07, 05:45 PM
It is the starters that should worry you.

yes we figured that out on our own Mr Obvious ;)

SalingerNY
08-26-07, 05:46 PM
that's debatable. the starting pitching isn't.

Anyone have bullpen stats since the ASB? I'm thinking this may not even be close, but I'm curious.

Ruth Kessler
08-26-07, 05:59 PM
How do they "concentrate on wild card"? How about just concentrating on winning each game. Isn't that what every team should be doing every game? How do you "concentrate on the wild card"? Win only select games? You play to win every game and you end up where you end up. If you are good enough you make the playoffs. The Yankees should not be thinking about "Division", "Wild Card", or anything but "Win today!".

As for all those @#^&* teams that keep losing to Boston and The Mets - a pox on them all!

Totally agree with the first part of this post. Cliche as it is...one game at a time is the way to keep yourself sane and enjoy each game.

As for the second part...not so much...I'm a Red Sox fan who grew up in NJ as a Mets fan, transplanted to Boston 30 years ago.....

LOL...

Rice14
08-26-07, 06:08 PM
All you have to do is get in.

I said in the RS thread last week, that this was reminding me a little of 2004. That season, the Sox were mediocre for two months and fell 12 games back. Suddenly in August, Boston got red hot and cut the defecit as low as two games. NY held off Boston but by the time of the ALCS, the teams were pretty even and it was anyone's game.

Should Boston hold on to win the division this year, the team that would scare me the most in the playoffs is NY.

rodney27nyg
08-26-07, 06:10 PM
All you have to do is get in.

I said in the RS thread last week, that this was reminding me a little of 2004. That season, the Sox were mediocre for two months and fell 12 games back. Suddenly in August, Boston got red hot and cut the defecit as low as two games. NY held off Boston but by the time of the ALCS, the teams were pretty even and it was anyone's game.

Should Boston hold on to win the division this year, the team that would scare me the most in the playoffs is NY.


Actually...Boston was heavy favorites in that series.

BklynYankees
08-26-07, 06:15 PM
Boston is scared of the Yankees in the playoffs, as should be every other team.

Lobel's shot glass
08-26-07, 06:15 PM
All you have to do is get in.

I said in the RS thread last week, that this was reminding me a little of 2004. That season, the Sox were mediocre for two months and fell 12 games back. Suddenly in August, Boston got red hot and cut the defecit as low as two games. NY held off Boston but by the time of the ALCS, the teams were pretty even and it was anyone's game.

Should Boston hold on to win the division this year, the team that would scare me the most in the playoffs is NY.

why? Petit is the only playoff caliber starter they have. I think if Petit doesnt win Tuesday, the Yankees get swept and are pretty much done

Ljberkow12
08-26-07, 06:17 PM
That would mean seeing Joba and Mo pitch in Fenway in the top of the 8th and 9th to close it out, cant do.

Sox bullpen has six more saves and ten less blown saves and that includes the recent Gagne meltdowns. Yankees save percentage is last in MLB. Sox is first.

BklynYankees
08-26-07, 06:19 PM
Sox bullpen has six more saves and ten less blown saves and that includes the recent Gagne meltdowns. Yankees save percentage is last in MLB. Sox is first.

Yankees havent been able to get Mo into save situations all year and he has blown a few, check ERA after ASB.

yankeebot
08-26-07, 06:21 PM
why? Petit is the only playoff caliber starter they have. I think if Petit doesnt win Tuesday, the Yankees get swept and are pretty much done P-E-T-T-I-T-T-E. (sorry, pet peeve)

Rice14
08-26-07, 06:22 PM
why? Petit is the only playoff caliber starter they have. I think if Petit doesnt win Tuesday, the Yankees get swept and are pretty much done

Wang is strong also. The back of your bullpen is solidified and the lineup speaks for itself. If one other starter can come up big, the Yanks would be tough for anyone in a seven game series.

cupcollector99
08-26-07, 06:23 PM
Sox bullpen has six more saves and ten less blown saves and that includes the recent Gagne meltdowns. Yankees save percentage is last in MLB. Sox is first.

That's a telling stat. :eek: :eek:

teknetic
08-26-07, 06:33 PM
Sox bullpen has six more saves and ten less blown saves and that includes the recent Gagne meltdowns. Yankees save percentage is last in MLB. Sox is first.

Not arguing we have a better pen, but hypothetically speaking, I'd rather see them with that advantage than seeing Joba and Mo donning a Sox hat.

Lucen
08-26-07, 06:33 PM
Anyone have bullpen stats since the ASB? I'm thinking this may not even be close, but I'm curious.

I'm looking for pre and post ASB splits, but on the season the Boston bullpen ERA is 2.95 while the Yankees are at 3.96. The post ASB ERA's of the entire pitching staffs have the Sox at 3.66 and the Yankees at 4.70.

MLB.com's sortable team stats are a bit glitchy, but I can get a few things from them. For instance, in the last 30 days, the Sox bullpen has had a 3.78 ERA while the Yankees have had a 5.06. It's possible that the site's stats system is borked, though... so I don't know if that's accurate or not.

I'll keep looking around. I can't see an option to do this at baseball-reference or I'd subscribe and look it up. But it seems like most of the PI is designed to look up season data for teams and individual player data for smaller chunks of time.

gregzzy22
08-26-07, 06:50 PM
Its disgusting how the white sox are playing. Ozzie Guillen is a complete fraud and should be fired.

teddyhickdog
08-26-07, 06:59 PM
why? Petit is the only playoff caliber starter they have. I think if Petit doesnt win Tuesday, the Yankees get swept and are pretty much done

As Hughs may not be a playoff caliber pitcher as we speak, Wang and Clemens can prove to be playoff. Wang is strong when stuff is located and Roger has the right pitcher's mind to make a quality start. With the stars aligning and wind at their back the pinstripes cannot be counted out...yet. However said, a foot may be place firmly placed on the throat in the next few.

SalingerNY
08-26-07, 07:04 PM
I'm looking for pre and post ASB splits, but on the season the Boston bullpen ERA is 2.95 while the Yankees are at 3.96. The post ASB ERA's of the entire pitching staffs have the Sox at 3.66 and the Yankees at 4.70.

MLB.com's sortable team stats are a bit glitchy, but I can get a few things from them. For instance, in the last 30 days, the Sox bullpen has had a 3.78 ERA while the Yankees have had a 5.06. It's possible that the site's stats system is borked, though... so I don't know if that's accurate or not.

I'll keep looking around. I can't see an option to do this at baseball-reference or I'd subscribe and look it up. But it seems like most of the PI is designed to look up season data for teams and individual player data for smaller chunks of time.

Thanks for looking Lucen. I took a look around and found pretty much the same thing you did. It seems most sites do not have the option to provide stats post ASB.

Toaderly
08-26-07, 07:41 PM
If the Rangers have any self-respect left in them, they will win tonight.

emgoodman
08-26-07, 07:41 PM
Its disgusting how the white sox are playing. Ozzie Guillen is a complete fraud and should be fired.

Yankees took 5 out of 7 from the White Sox this year. Were you pissed at them then?

Lucen
08-26-07, 07:46 PM
Thanks for looking Lucen. I took a look around and found pretty much the same thing you did. It seems most sites do not have the option to provide stats post ASB.

OK, so I did this the hard way. I went to B-R and looked up the splits for relievers vs starters for each team. I then used the 2nd half numbers to see how many IP each pitcher had, and how many ER they had. In the case of any pitcher who was traded, DFA'd or used as both a starter and a reliever, I went to mlb.com's game logs to make sure I was only using second half data while they were in the proper uniform and coming out of the bullpen. Here's a table of each team's bullpen usage in the second half. What follows is the team's bullpen ERA's since the all star break.



BOS IP ER NYY IP ER

Okajima 18.33 4 Vizciano 22.33 3
Snyder 15.66 10 Rivera 20.33 6
Papelbon 13.00 3 Proctor 6.66 4
Timlin 19.33 2 Farnsworth 16.00 7
Pineiro 3.66 2 Bruney 8.33 6
Lopez 8.66 2 Myers 9.66 3
Delcarmen 18.33 6 Villone 17.33 11
Gagne 9.00 10 Henn 11.66 11
TAV 8.33 3 Ramirez 7.33 5
Chamberlain 9.00 0
Karstens 6.33 5
Brower 3.33 5


To be clear, the above table has every relief inning thrown by each team since the ASB. For those pitchers who have started games in that time, only their relief innings were counted.

The totals are:



Team IP ER ERA
BOS 114.33 42 3.31
NYY 138.33 66 4.29


I encourage people to double check my work, both the game data and the calculations as it was a lot of data to look at and it was done rather quickly.

BathroomWaterIsGood
08-26-07, 07:56 PM
Dear Lord.

YASS
08-26-07, 07:59 PM
Texas with the early lead over Seattle on a two-run Sammy Sooser roundtripper.

girardi08
08-26-07, 08:00 PM
ouch!! jeff kent was just beaned in the head.

SalingerNY
08-26-07, 08:03 PM
OK, so I did this the hard way. I went to B-R and looked up the splits for relievers vs starters for each team.

Wow, that's not something I was interested in taking the time to do, so much appreciated!

There are a couple of things that stand out. First that Gagne really skews the RS numbers. Without his blowouts, the RS numbers would be quite a bit better. Then I did not realize that Timlin's apparently been very strong for them.

On the NYY side, the first thing that caught my eye is that they've pitched many more innings as a group. Obviously that's a weak starting pitching effect, but then Mo has also pitched a fair amount more than Papelbon, which is troubling. The Henn and Villone numbers aren't surprising, just terribly disappointing.

I had the sense it wasn't close, and it seems my gut sense was right.

CallOfTheCrow
08-26-07, 08:04 PM
the white sox are pathetic....

Lucen
08-26-07, 08:09 PM
I had the sense it wasn't close, and it seems my gut sense was right.

Of course, in a post season series, or head to head matchups, the top end of each pen is really what's important, and those are a lot more similar.

Papelbon, Okajima, Timlin, Delcarmen and Gagne vs Rivera, Chamberlain, Vizciano, Ramirez and Farnsworth still favors the Sox, but not quite by the margin you see in the final ERA's above.

What's going to hurt the Yankees, IMO, is that Joba is likely a better reliever than Rivera at this point in his career, but he won't be used as the closer. Of course, that could accidentally help the Yankees, as the highest leverage situations often aren't in the 9th inning, and Chamberlain could end up pitching when he's needed most anyway. The "Joba Rules" might get in the way a bit, though.

What might hurt the Sox is if Francona decides to start using Gagne in the 8th inning again because he's looked less than cooked his last couple times out. I'm still not confident in him, but hopefully I'm wrong.

iWant27
08-26-07, 08:17 PM
All you have to do is get in.

I said in the RS thread last week, that this was reminding me a little of 2004. That season, the Sox were mediocre for two months and fell 12 games back. Suddenly in August, Boston got red hot and cut the defecit as low as two games. NY held off Boston but by the time of the ALCS, the teams were pretty even and it was anyone's game.

Should Boston hold on to win the division this year, the team that would scare me the most in the playoffs is NY.

Going into alcs , boston were big big favourites . Infact Damon even made a statement that red sox is hoping that yankees beat twins in the alds so that red sox can beat up on yankees . He said they will get to the world series no matter what , but it would be lot sweeter if they get by beating new york . Infact everyone kind of thought that it was a foregone conclusion for boston to win when they swept the angels . Schilling and Pedro , the way they were pitching were just too good .

girardi08
08-26-07, 08:23 PM
boomer just dropped a bunt in the mets game..and made it :roflmao: :roflmao:

Casey at the Bat
08-26-07, 08:24 PM
I remember that. When they went down 3-0 to the Yanks, I was thinking WTF happened? The Sox really are the Yankees you-know-whats!

hardrain
08-26-07, 08:25 PM
Well, at the moment I am a huge Vinny Padilla fan...the difference between 2 games out and 3 in the WC is huge....2-0 Texas in the top 4th

blumj
08-26-07, 08:29 PM
boomer just dropped a bunt in the mets game..and made it :roflmao: :roflmao:
That was great. But he didn't even try to go from 1st to 3rd on the single.

Tobe Namelater
08-26-07, 08:41 PM
boomer just dropped a bunt in the mets game..and made it :roflmao: :roflmao:

You mean he dropped a bundt cake, right..

Or that he when he made it , you mean mean that he made it back to the clubhouse buffet..

Else it is a sign of the apocalypse!

YASS
08-26-07, 08:43 PM
Matt Kemp had two hilarious baserunning blunders in the 4th to keep the Dodgers from tying it up. Brain flatulence is a horrible thing.

themgmt
08-26-07, 08:52 PM
i wonder if the mariners fans are crying that they have 2 hits off a scrub with a 6.5 era through 6 innings.. and how consequently, they are no longer a playoff team.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 08:54 PM
Come on Texas!

CallOfTheCrow
08-26-07, 08:57 PM
3-0, sac fly

DON'T KNOCK THE ROCK
08-26-07, 08:57 PM
i wonder if the mariners fans are crying that they have 2 hits off a scrub with a 6.5 era through 6 innings.. and how consequently, they are no longer a playoff team.

That would be terrible. :lol: Imagine fans who do that sort of thing? Disgraceful.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 08:58 PM
Alright 3-0 Rangers!

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:07 PM
2 on none out for Beltre in the 7th. Not good.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:09 PM
2 on nobody out for the Mariners...

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:09 PM
3-1, broken bat single for beltre.

themgmt
08-26-07, 09:10 PM
texas is pushing it! get the bullpen in please

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:10 PM
Beltre drives in 1 with a single now 3-1 Texas

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:10 PM
Padilla is out, Frank Francisco in.

Abe Frohman
08-26-07, 09:13 PM
cmon texas just hold on...

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:17 PM
Okay, they got 1 out. Get him a ground ball.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:18 PM
Come on Texas

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:19 PM
K, 2 out....

YanksForLife
08-26-07, 09:19 PM
cmon texas just hold on...

Texas Hold Em?

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:19 PM
Two Down!

Abe Frohman
08-26-07, 09:20 PM
JOHJIMA pinch-hitting... crap

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:21 PM
Woot, they got out of it. Now put up some more runs, Texas.

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 09:21 PM
Out of the inning with no further damage.

w00t.

Bernie Inferno
08-26-07, 09:21 PM
Frankie Francisco throwing some chairs in relief!

Abe Frohman
08-26-07, 09:21 PM
nice... no more potential rallies n we shud be good...

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:22 PM
Alright Texas!

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:22 PM
nice... no more potential rallies n we shud be good... Hows it going Abe, the sausage king of chicago.... ;)

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:34 PM
5 outs to go

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:37 PM
Jose Guillen coming up to the plate as the tying run

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 09:39 PM
Okay they get out of it

3 more outs Rangers

E-Rod
08-26-07, 09:47 PM
Nice triple and a sac fly to put Texas up 5-1.

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 09:53 PM
Ok, CJ Wilson, 3 outs without giving up 4 runs, please.

teknetic
08-26-07, 09:56 PM
Three outs away from salvaging another loss. These last two games for Seattle were big as they start their "Gauntlet" next.

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 09:58 PM
2 dead. 1 more, Tejas.

Jeter Kid
08-26-07, 09:59 PM
At least we didn't lose any ground in the wild card. We have to win tomorrow though, gotta beat Verlander.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:00 PM
Sexson singles but two out

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 10:01 PM
Sure, Sexson gets a hit to raise his BA to .212.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:01 PM
Two on all of a sudden

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 10:02 PM
Lopez singles Sexon to 3rd. :looking:

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:03 PM
Oh crap all of a sudden 5-2 and tying run to the plate

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 10:03 PM
Johjima ribeye single....

CallOfTheCrow
08-26-07, 10:04 PM
ribeyes are tasty.

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 10:04 PM
Wild fecking pitch! 5-3. Ahhhhhhhh.

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:04 PM
Wild Pitch now 5-3

Thank goodness for the two runs last inning

roblyo33
08-26-07, 10:04 PM
This is annoying!!!

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:05 PM
2 strikes...

MassNYYfan
08-26-07, 10:06 PM
Betancourt K's to end it!!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

roblyo33
08-26-07, 10:06 PM
Thank You Texas..............

YanksFan1992
08-26-07, 10:06 PM
GAME OVERRR MARINERS LOSE THAAAA MARINERS LOSE! (We're lucky it was Betancourt and not a home run hitter up)

With all the doom and gloom on this site we're only 2 out folks

sweet_lou_14
08-26-07, 10:07 PM
The night ends with a small bit of good news. Something to build on.

NYDCYankee
08-26-07, 10:15 PM
Has anyone taken a look at Seattle's brutal schedule:

Here it is.


http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=sea&m=9&y=2007

Los Angeles Angels: 7 games (4 road games)
Cleveland Indians: 5 games (1 double header) (1 road game)
Toronto Blue Jays: 3 games (3 road games)
New York Yankees: 3 games (3 road games)
Detroit Tigers: 3 games (3 road games)
Tampa Bay Devil Rays: 4 games
Oakland A's: 6 games (3 road games)
Texas Rangers: 3 games

They also have just 2 off days remaining.

Kluivert4Ever
08-26-07, 10:17 PM
Has anyone taken a look at Seattle's brutal schedule:

Here it is.


http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=sea&m=9&y=2007

Los Angeles Angels: 7 games (4 road games)
Cleveland Indians: 5 games (1 double header) (1 road game)
Toronto Blue Jays: 3 games (3 road games)
New York Yankees: 3 games (3 road games)
Detroit Tigers: 3 games (3 road games)
Tampa Bay Devil Rays: 4 games
Oakland A's: 6 games (3 road games)
Texas Rangers: 3 games

They also have just 2 off days remaining.



When its all said and done, the Tigers could end up being our main rival for the WC, especially if they win tomorrow putting them only 1 GB us.

JeterRodriguezSheff
08-26-07, 10:59 PM
Has anyone taken a look at Seattle's brutal schedule:

Here it is.


http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=sea&m=9&y=2007

Los Angeles Angels: 7 games (4 road games)
Cleveland Indians: 5 games (1 double header) (1 road game)
Toronto Blue Jays: 3 games (3 road games)
New York Yankees: 3 games (3 road games)
Detroit Tigers: 3 games (3 road games)
Tampa Bay Devil Rays: 4 games
Oakland A's: 6 games (3 road games)
Texas Rangers: 3 games

They also have just 2 off days remaining.

And the Yankees have a cake walk schedule in September. Only tough team is Boston and Seattle if you believe they are that good.

If either Mussina or Hughes can step it up, nobody is stopping us if we make the playoffs.

Abe Frohman
08-26-07, 11:08 PM
I seriously hope we take advantage of our " cakewalk " schedule... after the seattle series they better play with a mission, a purpose... i wanna see some intensity... i wanna see Jeter dive into the stands again... and not get hurt lol... but u kno wat i mean... this team NEEDS to make the playoffs... we're the only ones that can take Boston.

CallOfTheCrow
08-26-07, 11:12 PM
I seriously hope we take advantage of our " cakewalk " schedule... after the seattle series they better play with a mission, a purpose... i wanna see some intensity... i wanna see Jeter dive into the stands again... and not get hurt lol... but u kno wat i mean... this team NEEDS to make the playoffs... we're the only ones that can take Boston.

Anybody can take anybody else on any given day, man.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 11:13 PM
Yankees took 5 out of 7 from the White Sox this year. Were you pissed at them then?

actually you have taken 6 out of 10 from the White Sox. That means you lost to them 4 times.

TheTinoMobile
08-26-07, 11:34 PM
actually you have taken 6 out of 10 from the White Sox. That means you lost to them 4 times.

Please troll... we're not here to compare penis sizes or get into a pissing match... go back to SoSH and know that we are coming for you on Tuesday.

hockeypuck2008
08-26-07, 11:53 PM
Please troll... we're not here to compare penis sizes or get into a pissing match... go back to SoSH and know that we are coming for you on Tuesday.

I am not going to get into a pissing match with you or anyone. All this talk about how the White Sox suck and how the Red Sox have it easy. So I just pointed out how the incorrect he was in his statement. Showed how the Yanks actually won 6 out of 10 not 5 out of 7. Now if the truth comes out after all your chest thumping and it hurts well I am really sorry. I didnt mean to point that if not for 1 game you'd be .500 against that wretched team of quitters. Nor did I mention that if the White Sox suck that bad, what does that say about the Yankees who barely beat them? Sorry if you took it that way, you have a nice night.

teknetic
08-27-07, 12:01 AM
actually you have taken 6 out of 10 from the White Sox. That means you lost to them 4 times.

Two of those losses were games started by DeSalvo and came when the Sox were actually over .500 (albeit by 2 games going into the series) the other loss was charged to Moose and the final loss (the 8 runs defect where they crawled back only to let it see vanish because Karstens was called in)

Two terrible pitchers and one vet who's struggled = 4 wins for any ballclub.

jughead
08-27-07, 12:03 AM
I am not going to get into a pissing match with you or anyone. All this talk about how the White Sox suck and how the Red Sox have it easy. So I just pointed out how the incorrect he was in his statement. Showed how the Yanks actually won 6 out of 10 not 5 out of 7. Now if the truth comes out after all your chest thumping and it hurts well I am really sorry. I didnt mean to point that if not for 1 game you'd be .500 against that wretched team of quitters. Nor did I mention that if the White Sox suck that bad, what does that say about the Yankees who barely beat them? Sorry if you took it that way, you have a nice night.
This coming from someone whose team has split their 6 games against the Royals? Note: That IS .500.

Enjoy Monday. The following 3 days will be rough :)

hockeypuck2008
08-27-07, 12:09 AM
This coming from someone whose team has split their 6 games against the Royals? Note: That IS .500.

Enjoy Monday. The following 3 days will be rough :)

here is the thing though, I never called the Royals quitters or how bad they sucked when you guys killed them. I give the Yankees credit when credit is due. The Royals have kicked are arse this year but so what?

I hope they wont be that rough for you but they probably will.

NavyTim
08-27-07, 07:57 AM
I seriously hope we take advantage of our " cakewalk " schedule... after the seattle series they better play with a mission, a purpose... i wanna see some intensity... i wanna see Jeter dive into the stands again... and not get hurt lol... but u kno wat i mean... this team NEEDS to make the playoffs... we're the only ones that can take Boston.

Before you claim 'cakewalk' - you need to recall the 6 games remaining with BAL. So what you want - but the record is what it is, and they are the team that could cause more problems than any of the others (outside of the head-to-head with BOS)

CyYoung4Vazquez
08-27-07, 08:05 AM
Has anyone taken a look at Seattle's brutal schedule:

Poor Seattle. I still think it's complete garbage that Boston gets a day off today and the Yankees have to play in Detroit. Take a look at the Red Sox schedule between the 10th of August and the last Sunday, it's a complete joke. Is it me or is the last season against the Red Sox always in Boston?

girardi08
08-27-07, 08:20 AM
Poor Seattle. I still think it's complete garbage that Boston gets a day off today and the Yankees have to play in Detroit. Take a look at the Red Sox schedule between the 10th of August and the last Sunday, it's a complete joke. Is it me or is the last season against the Red Sox always in Boston?

last year the last series was at yankee stadium. it alternates by year.

NavyTim
08-27-07, 08:29 AM
Poor Seattle. I still think it's complete garbage that Boston gets a day off today and the Yankees have to play in Detroit. Take a look at the Red Sox schedule between the 10th of August and the last Sunday, it's a complete joke. Is it me or is the last season against the Red Sox always in Boston?

The only reason it is 'complete garbage' of them having a day off is the gap of being behind by 7.5 games vice being up 7.5 games. The standings put things in a different perspective.

sweet_lou_14
08-27-07, 08:47 AM
The only reason it is 'complete garbage' of them having a day off is the gap of being behind by 7.5 games vice being up 7.5 games. The standings put things in a different perspective.

Agreed. There is nothing wrong with the Sox schedule. If you want to complain about the schedule, complain about the fact that tonight's game is being played at 7:00 instead of being a 1:00 "getaway day" start time. That's where you can fairly say the Yankees are getting a bad break.

NavyTim
08-27-07, 08:52 AM
Agreed. There is nothing wrong with the Sox schedule. If you want to complain about the schedule, complain about the fact that tonight's game is being played at 7:00 instead of being a 1:00 "getaway day" start time. That's where you can fairly say the Yankees are getting a bad break.

Good point - however, I remember Gammons mentioning this on BT one night last year. If you look back over the past 6 years or so, the NYY have less 'getaway' games than most teams. That goes along with the territory. If you are the most wanted franchise to play (high tickets, draw) then the prime-time game slot draws more than other teams. If this were 'anyone else' it would most likely be at 1pm. The Big Boys get the prime market time. Payment for popularity is how he put it.

hatfieldms
08-27-07, 08:56 AM
here is the thing though, I never called the Royals quitters or how bad they sucked when you guys killed them. I give the Yankees credit when credit is due. The Royals have kicked are arse this year but so what?

I hope they wont be that rough for you but they probably will.

for you to sit here and arue that the white sox dont suck or havent quit makes you look like an idiot

Workhorse
08-27-07, 09:20 AM
Good point - however, I remember Gammons mentioning this on BT one night last year. If you look back over the past 6 years or so, the NYY have less 'getaway' games than most teams. That goes along with the territory. If you are the most wanted franchise to play (high tickets, draw) then the prime-time game slot draws more than other teams. If this were 'anyone else' it would most likely be at 1pm. The Big Boys get the prime market time. Payment for popularity is how he put it.

It's that way for the Red Sox as well. Gammons said that both the Sox and Yankees get fewer getaway day games than the other teams.

NavyTim
08-27-07, 09:23 AM
It's that way for the Red Sox as well. Gammons said that both the Sox and Yankees get fewer getaway day games than the other teams.

and given the crazy USA Today article last week, they can kiss get-a-ways good bye as well.

THEBOSS84
08-27-07, 09:45 AM
Lackey goes vs. the Mariners tonight. We must beat Verlander.

trentonthunder
08-27-07, 10:00 AM
We must beat Verlander.

Yes we must, but there will be a lot of moose hunting in michigan tonight.:(

JimmyTheGent
08-27-07, 10:41 AM
How much of an advantage will it be that the Red Sox are already in NY and have been since about 8pm last night. Off day today relaxing and getting ready for the Yankees while NY is playing in Detroit. With the 7pm start tonight figure the game should be done by about 10ish, meaning the Yankees wouldn't realisitically get back to NY until after 1am. By the time the get home they are looking at a 2am-3am. Extra inning or a long game that it is even later. But I am sure Pettitte is alreday back in NY.

Not to complain because over the course of the season every team has travel issues to deal with, earlier this season Boston played a Sunday night ESPN game at Fenway then had a game the next night in Oakland but at this time of year the fact that Boston is chilling out in NY while the Yankees play 700 miles away has to be an advantage in some aspect. This series really worries me, Boston had an easy time with Chicago, their bullpen is well rested and they have gotten hot at the plate. I am just happy Mussina is going tonight and not tomorrow.