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Steve J. Rogers
05-28-07, 12:30 PM
Tom Glavine is now 5 wins shy of joining the 300 Win Club, and 3 more from passing 19th Century hurler Bobby Matthews and makes himself the 23rd winningest pitcher in the game's history.
The top 22, that would be your 300 Win Club:
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Cy Young 511
Unbreakable record right there.
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The Original Big Train, Walter Johnson 417
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Pete Alexander 373
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The first New York City mega sports star, Christy Mathewson 373
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The winningest lefty, Warren Spahn 363
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Kid Nichols 361
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Pud Galvin 360
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The active leader, Roger Clemens 348
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Tim Keefe 342
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Glavine's golf buddy Greg Maddux 333
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Steve Carlton 329
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John Clarkson 328
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Eddie Plank 326
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Nolan Ryan 324
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Don Sutton 324
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"Knucksie" Phil Niekro 318
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Gaylord Perry 314, shown wearing his uni that he breaks out for Old Timers Games
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The Franchise, Tom Seaver 311
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"Old Hoss" Charles Radbourne 309
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Mickey Welch 307
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Lefty Grove 300
and
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Early Wynn
All except for Maddux and Clemens are in the Hall of Fame, and unless the voters decide to go the McGwire route when Clemens is up for inshrinment, those two will join the other 20 in Cooperstown.

Steve J. Rogers
05-28-07, 12:36 PM
Other 300 Win tidbits:

-The 10 seasons as Brave teammates from 93-02 for Glavine and Maddux will break a record for most years as teammates for a pair of future or current 300 Game Winners (there have never been more than two future or current 300 Game Winners on the same team in a given year) the current record is 5:

New York Giants Tim Keefe/Mickey Welch 1885-1889 and

Next pair, clocking in at 4 years

New York Mets Tom Seaver/Nolan Ryan 1968-1971

Another interesting tidbit is that in 1986 Tom Seaver missed out on being a teammate of 2 300 Game Winners in the same season. He was traded in June to the Red Sox, becoming a teammate of Roger Clemens, and in August of that year the White Sox picked up Steve Carlton!

Carlton wound up making history a year later, joining Phil Niekro on the Indians, making it the first time a club would feature two current 300 Game Winners at the same time during the same season.

Seaver, Niekro and John Clarkson share the title of being on the same team as another future or current 300 Game Winner in the same year, all three doing it three times:

John Clarkson
Charles Radbourne Braves 1888-1889
Kid Nichols Braves 1890-1892
Cy Young Spiders 1892-1894

Tom Seaver
Nolan Ryan Mets 1968-1971
Steve Carlton White Sox 1986
Roger Clemens Red Sox 1988

Phil Niekro
Warren Spahn Braves 1964
Gaylord Perry Braves 1980
Steve Carlton Indians 1987

Also another note about Keefe and Welch, the two also were teammates on the 1880-1882 Troy team of the NL. They are the only combo to be on more than one franchise.

-Warren Sphan's last year on the Braves was Phil Niekro's first and thanks to the 1987 Braves wanting to give Knuksie "One Last Go Round" the last day of the regular season, Phil Niekro ended up being a teammate of Tom Glavine in Glavine's debut season!

Which means one of the following Brave hurlers who made their MLB debuts in 2002 will one day win 300 games! =;)

Kevin Gryboski
Trey Hodges (although he has since been released by the Twins and twice by the Braves, and hasn't pitched in the bigs since 03)
Jung Bong (hasn't pitched in the bigs since 04 with the Reds)
John Foster (hasn't pitched in the bigs since 05)
John Ennis (hasn't pitched in the bigs since 04 with the Tigers)
Andy Pratt (hasn't pitched in the bigs since 04 with the Cubs)
Joey Dawley (hasn't pitched in the bigs since 04 with the Indians)

Seriously, what is with all those Baby Braves that haven't pitched since 2004? Heh, maybe Mazzone really is overrated as a developmental pitching coach as oppossed to a push-button one (ANYONE could be a PC to Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux.)


-The record most future and/or current 300 game winners on a team's All Time Roster is the Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves with 8

Tom Glavine is bidding to join:
Charles Radbourne 1886-1889
John Clarkson 1888-1892
Kid Nichols 1890-1901
Cy Young 1911
Warren Spahn 1942, 1946-1964
Phil Niekro 1964-1983, 1987
Gaylord Perry 1981
Greg Maddux 1993-2003

The Giants (Both in NY and SF) have 6, Cardinals and Indians with 5
The Mets are hoping to join the Phillies and Red Sox with 4, and are currently tied with the Athletics, Yankees, Senators/Twins, Astros and Reds, White Sox and Cubs

-Glavine being just 2 wins shy of Mathews, brings up an interesting thing about HOF pitchers, for the most part, the only 19th century hurlers in the HOF are those with 300 or more wins

Small exceptions of course for those whose careers started pretty late in the 19th Century like Rube Waddell (1897), Vic Willis (1898), Jack Chesbro, and Joe McGinnity, (both 1899) but the only 19th Century hurler to make it to the HOF and not win 300 is Amos Rusie who played from 1889 to 1901. He won 245 games in his career, but is probably best known for being traded from the Giants to the Reds for Christy Mathewson

Steve J. Rogers
06-22-07, 08:38 PM
296, 4 away!

Steve J. Rogers
06-22-07, 08:41 PM
Heh, this thread hasn't been updated in so long, here is your current All Time Active leaders

Roger Clemens 349
Greg Maddux 339
Tom Glavine 296
Randy Johnson 284