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Big_E
03-06-07, 07:27 AM
It looks like we will have the auction on the 20th or 22nd. I'd like to have Keepers declared by the 14th.

Keeper rules:

You must keep 7-12 players.
Minor leaguers do not count towards the 7-12. To keep someone in the minors, they must not have 50 IP or 130 AB for their career.

Players with an asterisk next to their contract, such as 1 year*, can not be kept in 2007. Players with a multi-year deal MUST be kept, or you lose $1 in auction value for each year left.

Renewing a contract: You may renew a player for one year at their old salary, after which they cannot be renewed or signed again long-term.

Multi-year deal: You may sign a player to a 2-4 year contract, with their salary increasing $4 for each year of the deal. Example: Barney Rubble was taken last year for $4. He had a monster season. He can signed as:

Option (renew): 2007, $4. (1 year/$4)
Two-year deal: 2007, $12; 2008, $12. (2 years/$24)
Three-year deal: 2007, $16; 2008, $16; 2009, $16 (3 years/$48)
Four-year deal: 2007, $20; 2008, $20; 2009, $20; 2010, $20. (4 years/$80)

PLEASE...when posting your keepers, give:

Player name, MLB team, Position, Contract length.

Position is important, especially with players with multiple eligibility so I can pre-select them in the auction site.

gdn
03-06-07, 08:15 AM
This doesn't apply to my team does it?

Snatch Catch
03-06-07, 09:09 AM
This doesn't apply to my team does it?


Hmm. Why shouldn't it? You're a GM coming in taking over an existing franchise.

Which team did you assume, by the way?

gdn
03-06-07, 09:52 AM
For some reason I remember a discussion about not having keepers...maybe it was in the other thread.

I took over Steve's team, I think.

Snatch Catch
03-06-07, 09:56 AM
Well, for starters I have the guys that I signed to long-term deals last offseason:

Grady Sizemore, Indians, OF, 2 years left at $22
Jason Bay, Pirates, OF, 1 year left at $20
Lance Berkman, Astros, not sure yet, 2 years left at $21

Snatch Catch
03-06-07, 10:05 AM
For some reason I remember a discussion about not having keepers...maybe it was in the other thread.

I took over Steve's team, I think.

Yeah, looking at it, I would either take his team or Mets Magic. I actually think Mets Magic may have the better keepers overall. Steve's team has a killer young staff that you can protect, though.

gdn
03-06-07, 10:07 AM
I don't think I was given an option; I was just assigned to that team.

Snatch Catch
03-06-07, 10:17 AM
I don't think I was given an option; I was just assigned to that team.


Huh. You should have an option if you're assuming the team, no?

Where's Grandmaster E when you need him?!

ruthianblast
03-06-07, 12:37 PM
Here are mine;
Name, Salary, Years, Position
McCann, 13, 1, C
Youkilis, 9, 2, 1B
Kinsler , 5, 1, 2B
Guillen , 1, 1, SS
Swisher, 9, 2, OF
Drew, 10, 1, OF
Tracy, 18, 2, 3B Previous Contract
Ryan, 17, 2, P Previous Contract
Haren, 18, 2, P Previous Contract
Sowers , 13, 2, P
Santana, 10, 1, P
Kazmir , 16, 2, P Previous Contract

Minors
Josh Fields
Gio Gonzalez

Mark19
03-06-07, 12:44 PM
So let me see if I have this correct:

I still have Jermaine Dye, Kevin Mench, Chien-Ming Wang, Rich Harden, Roy Halladay and Jason Lane under contract.

I still have Markakis, Danks and Bankston because they were my minor league picks.

I am expected to keep how many more? and can I sign my minor leaguers to extensions?

Sorry for being dumb, still have a bit to learn about managing a keeper auction league team.

Big_E
03-06-07, 12:52 PM
Sorry, was at work;

Yes, new teams get keepers.

Yes, I assigned GDN to Steve's team, which finished highest in the standings of any non-returning team. I figured as each new owner came in, they would get a team that finished lower in the standings.

Big_E
03-06-07, 12:53 PM
So let me see if I have this correct:

I still have Jermaine Dye, Kevin Mench, Chien-Ming Wang, Rich Harden, Roy Halladay and Jason Lane under contract.

I still have Markakis, Danks and Bankston because they were my minor league picks.

I am expected to keep how many more? and can I sign my minor leaguers to extensions?

Sorry for being dumb, still have a bit to learn about managing a keeper auction league team.

Sounds like you have 10 assuming Markakis, Danks and Bankston have used up their rookie eligibility. You can keep players in your minor leagues, who still have rookie eligibility (50 IP, 130 AB) with no restrictions.

Hitman23
03-06-07, 04:54 PM
For some reason I remember a discussion about not having keepers...maybe it was in the other thread.

I took over Steve's team, I think.Good luck, man. I'm rootin for ya. :cool:

What are ya gonna do with Liriano? Up until I decided I had to give this league up I was torn on a decision. You got a few guys like Hamels, Sanchez and Uggla. Not as many as I would have liked but I really tried to win last year, I wasn't in it for the future. Came up short the last month with a few injuries and guys just falling down at the worst time. We had a good race in late August/early September though.

gdn
03-06-07, 05:44 PM
Where do I find the contracts for my players?

I don't know about Liriano...I might be tempted to keep him.

gdn
03-06-07, 06:09 PM
Nevermind, I got it. So the players I cannot keep or don't want to keep, do I have to drop them or just not do anything?

Big_E
03-06-07, 06:44 PM
Where do I find the contracts for my players?

I don't know about Liriano...I might be tempted to keep him.

On your lineup page it has contract length and contract value.

gdn
03-06-07, 06:45 PM
On your lineup page it has contract length and contract value.My other question was whether the contracts (existing and new) count against the $260 or is the $260 for the draft only. Thanks!

Big_E
03-06-07, 06:46 PM
My other question was whether the contracts (existing and new) count against the $260 or is the $260 for the draft only. Thanks!

Answered in the other thread...but all your contracts (except for the players who are in the minors) count towards your $260.

gdn
03-06-07, 06:46 PM
I feel like Steve.


Sorry Steve :D :P

Hitman23
03-06-07, 09:19 PM
I feel like Steve.


Sorry Steve :D :Pdon't flatter yourself. You're not nearly cool enough. Not many are. :cool:

Snatch Catch
03-07-07, 12:36 PM
Well, for starters I have the guys that I signed to long-term deals last offseason:

Grady Sizemore, Indians, OF, 2 years left at $22
Jason Bay, Pirates, OF, 1 year left at $20
Lance Berkman, Astros, not sure yet, 2 years left at $21


Berkman will be a firstbaseman for auction purposes.

The rest of my keepers:

Chase Utley, Phillies, 2B, Option / $33
Justin Verlander, Tigers, P, Option / $5
Mike Gonzalez, Braves, P, Option / $1
Ryan Zimmerman, Nationals, 3B, 2 years / $13
Prince Fielder, Brewers, CI, 2 years / $13
Chris Young, Padres, P, 2 years / $10


Minor League Keepers:

1) Delmon Young
2) Phil Hughes
3) Jose Tabata
4) 2007 Minor League Draft Selection


I reserve the right to ammend this, but if nothing else is posted, it can be considered official.

chanman7483
03-07-07, 03:46 PM
Victor Martinez, Cleveland Indians, Catcher, 2 yrs / $24
Robinson Cano, NY Yankees, 2b, 2 yrs / $13
Joe Crede, Chi Sox, 3b, New Multiyear- 2 years / $18
Orlando Cabrera, Anaheim Angels, SS, Option/ $1
Paul Konerko, Chi Sox, 1b, 2 yrs / $25
Craig Monroe, Detroit Tigers, OF, Option/ $10
Ryan Howard, Phillies, DH, 3 yrs / $17

Scott Olsen, Florida Marlins, SP, 3 years / $17
Tom Gordon, Phillies, RP, Option / $8
Huston Street, Oakland A's, RP, 2 yrs / $13
Jonathan Papelbon, BoSox, SP, Option, $10

Minors
BJ Upton, TB, 3b, 2 years / $9

gdn
03-07-07, 04:13 PM
My tentative list:

Dan Uggla, FLA, 2B 1 yr @ $10 (option)
David Wright, NYM, 3B, 3 yrs @ $31 (existing contract)
Jackson, ARI, 1B, 2 yrs @ $18 (new contract)
Hamels, PHI, SP, 2 yrs @ $18 (new contract)
Lackey, ANA, SP, 2 yrs @ $9 (existing contract)
Zito, SF, SP, 2 yrs @ $19 (existing contract)
Liriano, MIN, SP, 3 yrs @ $22 (new contract)
Bedard, BAL, SP, 1 yr @ $10 (option)


Liriano is listed as in the minors on my roster page. So I can keep him there without having to offer him a contract, yes?

If so,

Minor League Keepers:
Cameron Maybin, OF, DET

Hitman23
03-07-07, 04:15 PM
My tentative list:

Dan Uggla 1 yr @ $10
David Wright 3 yrs @ $31
Baldelli 1 yr @ $10
Jackson 2 yrs @ $18
Hamels 2 yrs @ $18
Lackey 2 yrs @ $9
Zito 2 yrs @ $19


Liriano is listed as in the minors on my roster page. So I can keep him there without having to offer him a contract, yes?

If so,

Minor League Keepers:
Francisco Liriano
Cameron Maybin
draftee
drafteeNo, you can't he should be on the DL, not in the minors.

No Sanchez? Interesting.....

gdn
03-07-07, 04:22 PM
No, you can't he should be on the DL, not in the minors.

No Sanchez? Interesting.....Hmm, it says minors.

Salary: 10
Contract: Minors

Hitman23
03-07-07, 04:26 PM
Hmm, it says minors.

Salary: 10
Contract: Minorsoh okay that's from the previous year. I had picked him up in the minors at the end of 05 so his salary was 10. I kept him for last year and brought him up into the majors. Once a player is a MLer he stays that way. You cannot keep him as a minor leaguer. You gonna give him a long contract? I thought it was a good idea to take the hit next year for the future. You're not really wasting keepers since you get so many and if you're smart in the draft you'll have money to spare. I think last year I had something like $20 left.

gdn
03-07-07, 04:29 PM
Dude, who the heck is Jason Stokes?

Hitman23
03-07-07, 04:33 PM
Dude, who the heck is Jason Stokes?I do my research with my minor leaguers man. I have drafted some of the best guys (which I use for trade). You don't have to trust my judgement if you don't want to but as of last year he was an asset. Haven't started yet so I don't know where he is now.

gdn
03-07-07, 04:34 PM
I do my research with my minor leaguers man. I have drafted some of the best guys (which I use for trade). You don't have to trust my judgement if you don't want to but as of last year he was an asset. Haven't started yet so I don't know where he is now.I'm just giving you a hard time :D

Hitman23
03-07-07, 04:36 PM
I'm just giving you a hard time :Doh okay... :lol:

I get requests for Maybin all the time. So get ready. I regret trading Hanley Ramirez away.

gdn
03-07-07, 04:37 PM
oh okay... :lol:

I get requests for Maybin all the time. So get ready. I regret trading Hanley Ramirez away.I can't decide! lol.... I changed them again.

Hitman23
03-07-07, 04:45 PM
I can't decide! lol.... I changed them again.That $4 ding per year is rough, ain't it?

Mark19
03-07-07, 04:55 PM
So let me see if I have this correct:

I still have Jermaine Dye, Kevin Mench, Chien-Ming Wang, Rich Harden, Roy Halladay and Jason Lane under contract.

I still have Markakis, Danks and Bankston because they were my minor league picks.

I am expected to keep how many more? and can I sign my minor leaguers to extensions?

Sorry for being dumb, still have a bit to learn about managing a keeper auction league team.

So it appears that my keepers already under contract are:

Jermaine Dye, OF, White Sox, $9
Kevin Mench, OF, Brewers, $13 (ouch)
Jason Lane, OF, Astros, $9 (ugh)
Chien-Ming Wang, SP, Yankees, $13
Rich Harden, SP, A's, $18
Roy Halladay, SP, Blue Jays, $29

I would also like to keep Ryan Dempster for another season:

Ryan Dempster, RP, Cubs, $2

and Mike Mussina for one more season

Mike Mussina, SP, Yankees, $6


I would like to keep former mL Nick Markakis by signing him to a 3 year deal.

Nick Markakis, OF, Orioles

The only other minor leaguer I want to keep is John Danks.

gdn
03-07-07, 05:08 PM
So it appears that my keepers already under contract are:

Jermaine Dye, OF, White Sox, $9
Kevin Mench, OF, Brewers, $13 (ouch)
Jason Lane, OF, Astros, $9 (ugh)
Chien-Ming Wang, SP, Yankees, $13
Rich Harden, SP, A's, $18
Roy Halladay, SP, Blue Jays, $29

I would also like to keep Ryan Dempster for another season:

Ryan Dempster, RP, Cubs, $2

and Mike Mussina for 2 more seasons

Mike Mussina, SP, Yankees, $6 in 2007 - $10 in 2008


I would like to keep former mL Nick Markakis by signing him to a 3 year deal.

Nick Markakis, OF, Orioles, $5 in 2007 - $9 in 2008 - $13 in 2009

The only other minor leaguer I want to keep is John Danks.I thought the price for each year would be increased by (number of years of contract X 4)...

Mark19
03-07-07, 05:09 PM
I thought the price for each year increased by (number of years X 4)...

Really? Ok, in that case I remain confused

gdn
03-07-07, 05:11 PM
Really? Ok, in that case I remain confusedYeah, so if Mussina's current contract was $6 and you extend him for 2 years, his new contract is valued at $14 a year for the next two years.

Mark19
03-07-07, 05:12 PM
Yeah, so if Mussina's current contract was $6 and you extend him for 2 years, his new contract is valued at $14 a year for the next two years.

So I can either bring him back for one year at $6 or keep him for two years at $14 per?

gdn
03-07-07, 05:13 PM
So I can either bring him back for one year at $6 or keep him for two years at $14 per?Yep, exactly. If you bring him back for one year, then you can't keep him for the year after.

Mark19
03-07-07, 05:16 PM
Yep, exactly. If you bring him back for one year, then you can't keep him for the year after.

Understood, thanks

and guys who are in the last year of a 2 year deal from before last season, can I extend them now rather them lose them at the end of the season?

Players like Wang and Dye would still be bargains

gdn
03-07-07, 05:19 PM
If the player has an asterisk next to the length of contract, then no, they cannot be resigned.

yanksphan
03-07-07, 09:28 PM
2006 Champion Bitches Brew Keepers

Russell Martin 1yr @ $5 (extension)
Michael Barrett 1yr @ $6 (extension)
Ryan Freel 1yr @ $9 (2nd year of 2 year deal)
Hanley Ramirez 4yrs @ $21 (new contract for drafted mL)
Nomar Garciaparra 1yr @ $10 (extension)
Andruw Jones 1yr @ $22 (2nd year of 2 year deal)
Carlos Quentin 3yrs @ $17 (new contract for drafted mL)

Matt Cain 3yr @ $22 (extension)
Chris Capuano 2yrs @ $9 (new contract)
Jake Peavy 1yr @ $30 (extension)
Chris Ray 1yrs @ $7 (extension)

Minors:

Carlos Gonzalez - AZ
Matt Garza - MN
Humberto Sanchez - NYY
1 Draft Pick

I just might hang on to the Rocket for a year too.

I also reserve the right to change this up until the deadline.

Talent heading back to the Auction:

L.Overbay, A.Ramirez, M.Mora, P.Burrell, A.Dunn, R.Ibanez, M.Teixeira

R.Clemens, K.Escobar, D.Lowe, A.Otsuka, J.Santana

Big_E
03-07-07, 10:09 PM
Understood, thanks

and guys who are in the last year of a 2 year deal from before last season, can I extend them now rather them lose them at the end of the season?

No, one multi-year contract, then they go back into the auction.

Snatch Catch
03-08-07, 09:01 AM
2006 Champion Bitches Brew Keepers

Russell Martin 2yrs @ $9 (new contract for drafted mL)


Shouldn't this be $13 if he was a drafted mL?

yanksphan
03-08-07, 09:55 AM
Shouldn't this be $13 if he was a drafted mL?

Fixed.

Thought about 2, but went with the extension.

Tempted to extend Cain....but $18 is steep.

Snatch Catch
03-08-07, 10:27 AM
Fixed.

Thought about 2, but went with the extension.

Tempted to extend Cain....but $18 is steep.


It is, but he has significant potential to earn it, especially pitching a lot in those NL West parks.

I almost picked up the option on Chris Young, but then signed him to a 2 year deal (although the 2 year was only $10 per).

Big_E
03-09-07, 06:49 AM
Here are mine;
Name, Salary, Years, Position
McCann, 13, 1, C
Youkilis, 8, 2, 1B
Kinsler , 5, 1, 2B
Guillen , 1, 1, SS
Swisher, 9, 2, OF
Drew, 10, 1, OF
Tracy, 18, 2, 3B Previous Contract
Ryan, 17, 2, P Previous Contract
Haren, 18, 2, P Previous Contract
Sowers , 13, 2, P
Santana, 10, 1, P
Kazmir , 16, 2, P Previous Contract

Minors
Josh Fields
Ryan Sweeney
Gio Gonzalez
Heath Phillips

Youkilis would be $9, not $8

Big_E
03-09-07, 07:24 AM
So let me see if I have this correct:

I still have Jermaine Dye, Kevin Mench, Chien-Ming Wang, Rich Harden, Roy Halladay and Jason Lane under contract.

I still have Markakis, Danks and Bankston because they were my minor league picks.

I am expected to keep how many more? and can I sign my minor leaguers to extensions?

Sorry for being dumb, still have a bit to learn about managing a keeper auction league team.

So Markakis has to be kept as a regular keeper; his salary was $5, how long are you keeping him?

Danks and Bankston are "free" minor league keepers

ruthianblast
03-09-07, 09:42 AM
Youkilis would be $9, not $8

Whoops, sorry.

Mark19
03-09-07, 11:02 AM
So Markakis has to be kept as a regular keeper; his salary was $5, how long are you keeping him?

Danks and Bankston are "free" minor league keepers

I think Markakis on a 2 year deal and I think it would be wise to keep Danks but not Bankston.

Big_E
03-14-07, 06:35 AM
Minors
BJ Upton, TB, 3b, 2 years / $9

Upton slipped through last year; he must be on your starting roster this season...

yanksphan
03-14-07, 11:44 PM
Seeing that Garza will start in the majors this year - could I promote him now to free up a mL spot for the mL draft?

Big_E
03-15-07, 06:35 AM
Seeing that Garza will start in the majors this year - could I promote him now to free up a mL spot for the mL draft?Sure, if you want, you can use a major league keeper on anybody.

Big_E
03-15-07, 06:36 AM
I have 3 keepers set from last year:

Adam Eaton, P, $13 (last year of deal)
Chad Cordero, P, $11 (last year of deal)
Dontrelle Willis, P, $20 (2nd year of 3 year deal)

my other keepers...

Alfonso Soriano, OF, 2 Years, $35
Carlos Beltran, OF, 2 Years, $31
Rafael Furcal, SS, Renew, $15
Johnny Damon, OF, Renew, $17
Ichiro Suzuki, OF, Renew, $27

Minors:
Ian Stewart
Justin Upton
Billy Butler

yanksphan
03-15-07, 09:40 AM
Sure, if you want, you can use a major league keeper on anybody.

What is the mL draft order?

Big_E
03-15-07, 10:18 PM
What is the mL draft order?

Reverse of last year's standings sounds good. :)

Big_E
03-15-07, 10:21 PM
Well, this is pretty cool...as people sign in with the auction site, I am able to pre-load their keepers. Last year, there were 276 players auctioned. (12 x 23)...butThis year, with 9 teams there are 207 players...but with an average of 10 keepers per team, there will be maybe 117 players to auction...about 60% fewer than last year.

This should go very quickly. :D

boo_427
03-15-07, 10:50 PM
A-Team v.2007 Keepers:

Jorge Posada (1yr $11)
Edgar Renteria (1yr $14)
Stephen Drew (2yr $13)
Derrek Lee (1yr $28)
Josh Barfield (1yr $5)
Jeff Francouer (3yr $17)
Jeremy Hermida (1yr $5)
Zach Duke (1yr $13)
Andy Pettite (1yr $13)
Curt Schilling (1yr $14)
Adam Wainwright (1yr $10)
Joel Zumaya (1yr $10)

Minors:
Reyes
Bailey
Saltalamacchia

yanksphan
03-16-07, 08:39 AM
Reverse of last year's standings sounds good. :)

:mad: - well, that keeps Garza in the mL then...

ruthianblast
03-16-07, 09:01 AM
I need to drop one of my minor leaguers, but drops are disabled; will I still be able to participate in the minor league draft and drop the mL?

Big_E
03-16-07, 05:36 PM
I need to drop one of my minor leaguers, but drops are disabled; will I still be able to participate in the minor league draft and drop the mL?

Yes...all players will be dropped automatically, except those you list here as keepers....so if you wanted to drop Danny Bosavage from your minors, just don't keep him and when rosters are cleared, he's gone. :)

Clive
03-16-07, 08:19 PM
Hey Eric, is there any way to terminate a contract early? If the penalty isn't too steep I'd like to nuke the second year of Crisp's deal.

Existing Contracts:

[$20] C Joe Mauer (second and final year)
[$9] 3B Garrett Atkins (second and final year)

New Three-Year Deal:

[$17] SP Jered Weaver

One Year Options:

[$10] Brad Hawpe
[$11] Scott Rolen
[$27] Miguel Tejada

[$11] A. J. Burnett
[$10] Aaron Harang

Penalties:

[$1] SP Andy Pettitte (nice first half you bum)
[$1] OF Coco Crisp (I bet that finger still isn't healed)

Big_E
03-16-07, 08:21 PM
Yes, you simply lose $1 of auction money for each year remaining on his contract. So if he has one year left (2007) you will have only $259 for the auction, instead of $260. Or in your case, $258 beacuse of the -$1 penalty for Pettitte.

Clive
03-16-07, 09:42 PM
Yes, you simply lose $1 of auction money for each year remaining on his contract. So if he has one year left (2007) you will have only $259 for the auction, instead of $260. Or in your case, $258 beacuse of the -$1 penalty for Pettitte.Okay, that sounds good. Thanks man.

boo_427
03-17-07, 04:23 PM
[$1] SP Andy Pettitte (nice first half you bum)


I didn't mind taking a chance.... :D

yanksphan
03-20-07, 07:22 PM
2006 Champion Bitches Brew Keepers

Hanley Ramirez 4yrs @ $21 (new contract for drafted mL)

Matt Cain 3yr @ $22 (extension)

Chris Ray 1yrs @ $7 (extension)



http://forums.nyyfans.com/showpost.php?p=3941501&postcount=41

The above keepers were updated before the deadline (3/14), they are incorrect on the CBS site.

Big_E
03-20-07, 08:36 PM
fixed